From: owner-kevin-and-lucy-digest@lists.xmission.com (kevin-and-lucy-digest) To: kevin-and-lucy-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: kevin-and-lucy-digest V1 #17 Reply-To: kevin-and-lucy-digest Sender: owner-kevin-and-lucy-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-kevin-and-lucy-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk kevin-and-lucy-digest Thursday, February 5 1998 Volume 01 : Number 017 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 03:17:27 -0800 From: Taiyin Subject: Re: K&L: PC Web site daily poll It's 3:00 a.m. and I'm watching the previously pre-empted PC... and it was just pre-empted AGAIN because of the flooding that we're getting right now. I stayed up half the night for nothing... other than insomnia. It cut off at Kevin telling Lucy that it's "unbecoming" of her to enjoy her seduction of Rex so much and then it didn't return until Eve and Scott were saying good-bye. ARGH! Rika wrote: >Well, two comments. First, I'd argue that she's been very stupid before. >I thought Lucy's pinnacle of stupidity was when she uncritically believed >every word Madame Maia told her without ever doing any digging into the >woman's background, and when she wouldn't even *consider* taking Kevin's >advice to be skeptical. I hated that storyline because it made Lucy look >stupid and gullible, two things I didn't believe that she was. Well, while Lucy being naive and gullible is the reason that I hated that storyline, I don't think she was being stupid. For starters, thanks to Damian, Madame Maia was very well versed in Lucy's hot-buttons -- particularly Serena. Damian set things up very quickly and neatly and I don't think it was unreasonable of her to buy into Maia's act. I think the ONLY reason it was hard to watch was because we KNEW that Maia was working for Damian. And, as someone who gets really into the whole spiritual/psychic thing, I must say that a great many of Kevin's objections sounded increasingly patronizing and insulting as time went on. His initial words of caution were very supportive and reasonable, but the farther into the storyline they got, the more pompus and insulting he sounded. WE knew he was right, but ONLY because we knew the whole story. Given what Lucy could know, I disagree that she was being stupid. Greedy and needy, yeah, but not stupid. Plus, Maia also played Kevin and Lucy off each other very well -- Lucy was NOT the only one who fell into her trap. Kevin did too becuase of the predictability of his behavior, especially when it came to any mention of Ryan. I also happen to think that the entire storyline would have been more easy to stomach if they had done a better job of casting Maia. An actress who didn't play her as being so smarmy would have gone a long way in doing what I think they were trying to do with that storyline. I think the only other time that she came as close to being as stupid as she is now was during the Joe Scully stuff -- but, IMO, that one doesn't come NEARLY as close because (a) she wasn't NEARLY as close to Joe as she is to Rex and (b) because Sonny and Luke were in MUCH better positions to intercede if things got out of hand (which they did) then Kevin is now (which they easily could). But I think what makes this time SO much worse was that with Joe Scully she never honestly considered him dangerous -- I mean, she knew he was a mobster, but, as Kevin pointed out, she thinks she can handle any man. And part of how she justified the entire fiasco was because she convinced herself that he wouldn't REALLY hurt her. She knows and readily admits that Rex is dangerous, brilliant and unpredictable. And STILL she is going along with this crap. >Second, in my view she's been taking Kevin for granted off and on for ages, >whenever something more urgent comes along. Remember how, the morning >after Kevin saw Ryan go up in flames, we almost got whiplash? One second, >Lucy was a wellspring of love and support, cradling Kevin in his arms while >he tried to deal with the horror of what he had seen; the next second she >was out of bed and on her way to Luke's so she could dive into that MDP to >bring down Joe Scully. I'm not sure that I think that is really fair, though. First of all, it was Kevin who insisted on getting back to normal ASAP and secondly, it WAS a very sloppy transition between major storylines -- it was the catalyst for getting Kevin working with Stone and launching the whole AIDS storyline and it was the catalyst for getting the Joe Scully thing in full gear. But I don't buy that that was an example of Lucy taking Kevin for granted. I think it could have been handled more smoothly, but when it comes down to it, Kevin is the one who pushed for a "return to some semblence of normalcy." >I think Kevin will always be more consistently focused on Lucy than the >other way around because (unlike her) he doesn't tend to let that which is >*urgent* distract him from that which is *important*. And I don't think >she's atypical in this tendency; it's just that she's so much more extreme >about it than most people. That I agree with. She obsesses very easily, and she forgets about everything else in the meantime. Taiyin "What did I do before I had you?" - --"You were lost and confused." -- Lucy and Kevin - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 08:44:34 -0800 From: "Jessica Thompson" Subject: Re: K&L: PC Web site daily poll > It's 3:00 a.m. and I'm watching the previously pre-empted PC... and it was > just pre-empted AGAIN because of the flooding that we're getting right now. Are you in SoCal? I really hope they don't take it upon themselves to interrupt during today's show!! Taiyin wrote (concerning Madame Maia story): > Well, while Lucy being naive and gullible is the reason that I hated that > storyline, I don't think she was being stupid. For starters, thanks to > Damian, Madame Maia was very well versed in Lucy's hot-buttons -- > particularly Serena. Damian set things up very quickly and neatly and I > don't think it was unreasonable of her to buy into Maia's act. I think the > ONLY reason it was hard to watch was because we KNEW that Maia was working > for Damian. My opinion exactly!! Maia had info that was so close to Lucy's heart that, unless she automatically suspected an informant and a trap-- which I think would be unrealistic-- she would have been stupid not to consider the possibility that Maia was real. I also thought they did a nice job playing up her desperate need for any info about Serena. Though Kevin did see through Maia not even he figured out that it was Damian who had hired her. In fact they never really dealt with that on screen at all. I really wanted to see Kevin's reaction to the realization that it was Damian that had cause all that trouble between them. As it was, they never even mentioned it and then on the day of Damian's funeral when they were trying to come up with the most despicable thing Damian had done someone brought up that he brought Madame Maia to town, so apparently they did eventually find out. I felt kind of cheated with that. - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 11:37:25 -0800 From: Taiyin Subject: Re: K&L: PC Web site daily poll At 08:44 AM 2/3/98 -0800, Jessica Thompson wrote: > >Are you in SoCal? I really hope they don't take it upon themselves to >interrupt during today's show!! Nope. NoCal. Half of our freeways are still closed and I couldn't get to work. >My opinion exactly!! Maia had info that was so close to Lucy's heart that, >unless she automatically suspected an informant and a trap-- which I think >would be unrealistic-- she would have been stupid not to consider the >possibility that Maia was real. I agree. And her information was on too many different fronts. Not ONLY did she tap into Lucy's need to know about Serena, but she also did other more "objective" things like that stock tip business. >In fact they never really dealt with that on screen at all. I really >wanted to see Kevin's reaction to the realization that it was Damian that >had cause all that trouble between them. Actually, Lucy did tell Kevin that Damian was behind it after she found out (when she went to Chicago to seek out Maia's h*lp when she was having visions of Damian in San Antonio). His response was disappointingly unspectacular. Taiyin "What did I do before I had you?" - --"You were lost and confused." -- Lucy and Kevin - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 09:48:24 -0800 From: "Jessica Thompson" Subject: Re: K&L: PC Web site daily poll > Actually, Lucy did tell Kevin that Damian was behind it after she found out > (when she went to Chicago to seek out Maia's h*lp when she was having > visions of Damian in San Antonio). His response was disappointingly > unspectacular. > Now I remember that particular scene. Still so disapointing though. Thanks for that reminder. I missed the first 10 mins. of PC today because of weather coverage but the last 20 mins. sure were excellent. A good day for Kevin indeed. - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 12:54:06 -0800 From: Taiyin Subject: K&L: Oh, WOW! This is from Rika. She's at school and is not s*bbed at this addy, so I'm sending it for her. S P O I L E R S P A C E >I'm at school; I just had to let you know that PC absolutely ROCKS >today! I haven't seen it yet - I listened to the audio while I ate >lunch (I have a little radio that plays TV audio. I haven't used it to >listen to a soap in ages, but I think I'm going to be doing this a lot >during sweeps). I can't wait to get home and watch it, but in the >meantime I thought I'd pass along the good news about today: > >First off, no Scott. Nada. Zip. I can't remember the last time that >happened. > >Second, LOTS of Kevin. That hasn't happened much lately either, and I >don't know if it has EVER happened on a show that didn't feature Scott. > >Third.... Oh, my! Kevin and Rex really mix it up, both verbally and >physically, at the engagement party. Rex keeps trying to get the better >of Kevin, but he keeps failing. Finally, Rex throws the first punch. >Kevin's response: "Thank you. I've needed some good catharsis for >months." Then, of course, he returns the punch. > >Lucy, I wanted to smack. At a time when she ought to be worried about >her future life, she was sulking because most of her friends refused to >attend the party. What the HECK does she expect, after she sends Scott >to prison with her testimony and leaves Kevin for Rex? > >Rika > > - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 13:34:59 -0800 From: Taiyin Subject: Re: K&L: Oh, WOW! At 12:54 PM 2/4/98 -0800, Rika wrote: >S >P >O >I >L >E >R > >S >P >A >C >E > >I'm at school; I just had to let you know that PC absolutely ROCKS >today! Yes, indeed! I'm stuck at home because of flooding, so I actually got to watch the ep. :-) >I haven't seen it yet - I listened to the audio while I ate >lunch (I have a little radio that plays TV audio. I haven't used it to >listen to a soap in ages, but I think I'm going to be doing this a lot >during sweeps). Oh my, then you missed the look on the faces and did you get what the gift that was that Kevin gave them? ROTFL!!! Woo hoo, Doc! A SKUNK! It was fabulous. And Kevin looked so sexy and scrumptious I was salivating. He's growing his beard and I am a happy camper. >First off, no Scott. Nada. Zip. I can't remember the last time that >happened. Double Woo Hoo! Pfft! >Second, LOTS of Kevin. That hasn't happened much lately either, and I >don't know if it has EVER happened on a show that didn't feature Scott. I don't think so, either. That was great. >Third.... Oh, my! Kevin and Rex really mix it up, both verbally and >physically, at the engagement party. Rex keeps trying to get the better >of Kevin, but he keeps failing. Finally, Rex throws the first punch. >Kevin's response: "Thank you. I've needed some good catharsis for >months." Then, of course, he returns the punch. Oh, man, I've watched that about eight times already. That has been such a long time in coming. >Lucy, I wanted to smack. So did I, but for a different reason. >At a time when she ought to be worried about >her future life, she was sulking because most of her friends refused to >attend the party. What the HECK does she expect, after she sends Scott >to prison with her testimony and leaves Kevin for Rex? Actually, I liked that. I thought it showed how much this whole plan is costing her. She doesn't believe Kevin that the price is too high, she thought that she could go through this relatively unscathed. And Audrey and Tony pointed out how wrong she is. She discounts Kevin's opinion because she knows he can't stand Scott and because she knows that he is very protective of her. But when everyone else begins to prove to her that her actions have very far-reaching consequences she can't disregard Kevin's warnings. It very much reminded me of the day she was trying on wedding dresses -- the whole thing was hitting so close to home that it was making her miserable. The reason that I DID want to smack her, though, was her snapping at Eve. Well, excuse me Ms. Coe, but YOU are the one who wanted Eve and Kevin to make goo-goo eyes at each other. And YOU are the one who is ENGAGED TO THAT PARASITE, not Kevin. And YOU are the one who is enjoying yourself far too much for your own good. And there were SO many good quotes!!! "My gosh! You two having nothing better to do in bed than talk about me?" "Oh Kevin really doesn't need to see the bar, not when I have a first edition of Freuds' 'Interpretation of Dreams' to show him." "How lucky for you." "Signed." "How divine." "It cost me two hundred thou. You really must have a look at it." "Oh I can't wait. We can see how it stacks up against the one that Lucy gave me." "You do realize the best man has won." "I realize there is no accounting for taste, "De gustibus."" "But don't you find that you miss all of her endearing quirks? Insisting on silk sheets?" "Why, no. With us it was Egyptian cotton -- 300-thread count. Lucy felt, and I agreed, that silk sheets lack -- what is it? Class." "And all of those cute little noises she makes when she sleeps." "Oh no, I thought she was over that. She did that when she first moved in with me, too. It's a sexual tension, it has to do with reluctance or reticence. It'll pass. Or, at least it did with us." "I would suggest that you just take a browse through Chpater Six. It has a lot of interesting commetns about transference." "Amy, it's a dog leash. We don't have a dog." "No! It's to keep this husband from getting away." "So, have you told Rex yet?" "Oh, I have something better in mind for Rex." "Oh God, should I close my eyes?" "It's a skunk!" "Yes, and his name is Gustave." "Thank you. Thank you very much. I've been aching for a good catharsis for months." And the look on Kevin's face after he klobbered Rex was almost his Ryan-face. :-) Anne should be happy. Taiyin "Oh God, he looks SO scrumptious scruffy!" -- My sister (who I just FINALLY managed to s*b to the lists... sucker ), about Kevin - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 16:00:21 +0000 From: JEN Subject: K&L: Kevin on GH... Kevin will be on GH tomorrow so make sure to watch! They showed him in = the clips for tomorrow after the show. Jennifer House JH0061@DRAKE.EDU PHONE: 271-3567 - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 14:00:43 -0800 From: Taiyin Subject: K&L: Kevin and the Skunk The two legged one, not the cute fuzzy one. ;-) I was just rewatching that end scene about a dozen more times -- and the look on Kevin's face was so vindictive and calculating and condescending (especially during his little "Compare Lucy" seesion with Rex)... I've got goosebumps. And I was thinking that if Kevin gets to stay as focused and central and... primal then I'll actually enjoy watching they way they wrap up this story. ESPECIALLY if they keep Snotty locked up in his cell and out of our faces for a while. Taiyin REX: "But don't you find that you miss all of her endearing quirks? Insisting on silk sheets?" KEVIN: "Why, no. With us it was Egyptian cotton -- 300-thread count. Lucy felt, and I agreed, that silk sheets lack - -- what is it? Class." - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 17:21:43 PST From: "NovaLee Murphy" Subject: Re: K&L: Oh, WOW! Taiyin wrote: > >At 12:54 PM 2/4/98 -0800, Rika wrote: >>S >>P >>O >>I >>L >>E >>R >> >>S >>P >>A >>C >>E >> > >Oh my, then you missed the look on the faces and did you get what the >gift that was that Kevin gave them? ROTFL!!! Woo hoo, Doc! A >SKUNK! It was fabulous. And Kevin looked so sexy and scrumptious I >was salivating. He's growing his beard and I am a happy camper. No complaints from me either . And I think it's a look we'll be seeing for at least a couple more days if tomorrow's GH previews are any indication. Does this mean we'll get to see Kevin TWICE on Wed.?!? >>First off, no Scott. Nada. Zip. I can't remember the last time >>that happened. > >Double Woo Hoo! Pfft! Scott behind bars definitely has its advantages. >>Third.... Oh, my! Kevin and Rex really mix it up, both verbally and >>physically, at the engagement party. Rex keeps trying to get the >>better of Kevin, but he keeps failing. Finally, Rex throws the >>first punch. Kevin's response: "Thank you. I've needed some good >>catharsis for months." Then, of course, he returns the punch. > >Oh, man, I've watched that about eight times already. That has been >such a long time in coming. That felt GREAT. And I hope this is only the beginning. >>Lucy, I wanted to smack. > >So did I, but for a different reason. > >>At a time when she ought to be worried about >>her future life, she was sulking because most of her friends refused >>to attend the party. What the HECK does she expect, after she sends >>Scott to prison with her testimony and leaves Kevin for Rex? > >Actually, I liked that. I thought it showed how much this whole plan >is costing her. That's exactly how I saw it. She's needed a big-time reality check for weeks now. She seems to only occasionally "get" the ramifications this plan is having and those moments are all-too fleeting before it's on to enjoying the next phase of the game. > >The reason that I DID want to smack her, though, was her snapping at >Eve. This bugs me too. I'm surprised that Eve puts up with it. > >And there were SO many good quotes!!! The dialogue between Kevin and Rex was TOO much fun. If *this* is the beginning of the kind of pay-off we can expect for having put up with this sorry excuse for a storyline I am totally psyched. NovaLee ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 00:23:40 -0500 From: Rika Subject: Re: K&L: PC Web site daily poll At 10:05 PM 2/2/98 PST, NovaLee wrote: >Rika wrote: > >> >>This is sort of a spoiler even though it doesn't give the answer. >But >I knew y'all would want to see it: >> >>R >>E >>A >>D >> >>O >>N >> >>A >>N >> >>E >>M >>P >>T >>Y >> >>S >>T >>O >>M >>A >>C >>H >> >So is this the wedding night, I wonder? According to the previews/ >spoilers the wedding takes place either at the end of this week or >beginning of next which would fall on or around Feb.9. If I understand what I've read correctly, the wedding is Thursday. And guess who is the Thursday updater for RATSA? Great - I'll get to cry my eyes out several times instead of just once. >#3 is my pick too. The fact that #2 and #3 differ only slightly means >that it *has* to be one of the variations on the Lucy-gets-sick theme, >right?!? Now, that's a good, optimistic thought! Unfortunately, I'm putting together a midterm for the Intro to Marketing course I'm teaching, and that's not always a safe bet in multiple choice tests. But my theory is that Lucy wouldn't purposely give herself an allergic reaction if she had any choice in the matter. Remember how grossed out she was when Kevin broke out in the hives after eating the mussels? But fake an illness? That's Lucy, through and through. Well, whatever happens we know that *someone* will get sick, if >not Lucy, than me. And me! Rika - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 00:37:11 -0500 From: Rika Subject: Re: K&L: Kevin and the Skunk At 02:00 PM 2/4/98 -0800, Taiyin wrote: >I was just rewatching that end scene about a dozen more times -- and the >look on Kevin's face was so vindictive and calculating and condescending >(especially during his little "Compare Lucy" seesion with Rex)... >I've got goosebumps. Yes. Yes. YESSSSS!!! As much as I enjoyed listening to it, it was a thousand times better with the visual! >And I was thinking that if Kevin gets to stay as focused and central and... >primal then I'll actually enjoy watching they way they wrap up this story. That's the thing. Kevin needs an adversary, I think. For a while he had Damian. Now he has Rex. After Rex is gone, he needs another one. I adore Kevin no matter what he's doing, but if he's going to stay front burner I think we need to see more of the dangerous side of his personality. As you said, goosebump city. Between the don't-mess-with-me smiles, the wicked glint in his eye, and then the absolute murder in his eyes at the end of the episode..... wow.... This was the potential I always saw for Rex Stanton. He needed an intellectual equal against whom to strike sparks. Danielle certainly wasn't it. Neither is Scott; he's all bluster and no brains. And Lucy isn't either. She's not dumb, but she's in no way Rex's match when it comes to brain power. But Kevin..... oh, my, yes. The two of them were truly enjoying the "comparing Lucy" mind games they were playing. I get chills thinking about what's going to happen when the two of them up the ante later this month! >ESPECIALLY if they keep Snotty locked up in his cell and out of our faces >for a while. Amen. Supposedly we have till next Tuesday. And after that he'll have to lay low since he's going to be a fugitive. >REX: "But don't you find that you miss all of her endearing quirks? >Insisting on silk sheets?" KEVIN: "Why, no. With us it was Egyptian >cotton -- 300-thread count. Lucy felt, and I agreed, that silk sheets lack >-- what is it? Class." Great line. ALTHOUGH.... in truth, don't they have satin sheets at the lighthouse? Rika - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 00:56:55 -0500 From: Rika Subject: Re: K&L: Oh, WOW! At 01:34 PM 2/4/98 -0800, Taiyin wrote: >At 12:54 PM 2/4/98 -0800, Rika wrote: >Oh my, then you missed the look on the faces and did you get what the gift >that was that Kevin gave them? ROTFL!!! Woo hoo, Doc! A SKUNK! It was >fabulous. And Kevin looked so sexy and scrumptious I was salivating. He's >growing his beard and I am a happy camper. Well, as you know, I'm in the anti-goatee camp (which is evidently a minority). But, that said, I will freely admit that I just about suh.WOONed when I saw him today. About a day of beard growth does very nice things for that man. Especially when "dark and dangerous" fits what he's doing in the scene. And especially, especially, when accompanied by a nice dark blue suit. :-) I suppose it's only "organized facial hair" that I don't like on Kevin (BTW, I might feel entirely differently about a goatee on Jon. I'm talking Kevin here, which is a completely different kettle of fish.) >>At a time when she ought to be worried about >>her future life, she was sulking because most of her friends refused to >>attend the party. What the HECK does she expect, after she sends Scott >>to prison with her testimony and leaves Kevin for Rex? > >Actually, I liked that. I thought it showed how much this whole plan is >costing her. She doesn't believe Kevin that the price is too high, she >thought that she could go through this relatively unscathed. And Audrey >and Tony pointed out how wrong she is. She discounts Kevin's opinion >because she knows he can't stand Scott and because she knows that he is >very protective of her. But when everyone else begins to prove to her that >her actions have very far-reaching consequences she can't disregard Kevin's >warnings. > >It very much reminded me of the day she was trying on wedding dresses -- >the whole thing was hitting so close to home that it was making her miserable. But meanwhile, she kept prattling on about "my party" this and "my party" that. That was the part that almost drove me to violence. Being upset about being forsaken by her friends - I see your point, and maybe that will be a good wake-up call. But some portion of it seemed to simply be wanting "her party" to be a success. For example, her first remark (paraphrased) when the skunk did his thing - "Kevin Collins, how could you do this to my party?" It seemed like the party was the thing, at least as much as the people. Maybe I'm oversensitive, but I'm just sick and tired of her having fun with this plan and getting caught up in peripheral issues when the central aspects of the plan are such an awful mess. And poor Kevin never sees her when she's miserable; he just sees her obsessing over whether or not the caterer will serve Rexy's favorite lobster dish. >The reason that I DID want to smack her, though, was her snapping at Eve. >Well, excuse me Ms. Coe, but YOU are the one who wanted Eve and Kevin to >make goo-goo eyes at each other. And YOU are the one who is ENGAGED TO >THAT PARASITE, not Kevin. And YOU are the one who is enjoying yourself far >too much for your own good. Ditto to all of the above. When she got upset over the kiss, I cut her some slack, but this time..... good GRIEF!!! I was glad, at least, when Eve pointed out that Kevin was not having ANY fun, Lucy looked appropriately unhappy. And I felt really sorry for Eve. Most of the time she looked like she would have preferred to be having a root canal. >And there were SO many good quotes!!! I hated to snip them. We might need a transcript of these scenes, I think. >"Oh Kevin really doesn't need to see the bar, not when I have a first >edition of Freuds' 'Interpretation of Dreams' to show him." Just a remark on this one - we need to give credit to the writers for such a nice use of character history. That gift was from almost three years ago. >"Oh God, he looks SO scrumptious scruffy!" -- My sister (who I just >FINALLY managed to s*b to the lists... sucker ), about Kevin Welcome, Taiyin's sister! :-) And, boy, does he ever!!!!!! Rika - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 01:11:29 EST From: AnneBPT@aol.com Subject: Re: K&L: Oh, WOW! Taiyin wrote: >> Oh my, then you missed the look on the faces and did you get what the gift that was that Kevin gave them? ROTFL!!! Woo hoo, Doc! A SKUNK! It was fabulous. And Kevin looked so sexy and scrumptious I was salivating. He's growing his beard and I am a happy camper.<< I just finished watching this episode a few minutes ago. What fun! Kevin had that twinkle in his eye today. Even though he is angry about how the plan is going, at least he seems set on taking matters into his own hands. This could be very, very, good. The whole interaction with Rex reminded me a bit of Doc sparring with Damian.... or early on with Mac. I used to love watching him run circles around Mac with words:-) I hope he keeps his cool and simply out thinks Rex, and manipulates him into making a mistake. It would be a nice contrast to show how Scott's bluster and hysterics were useless compared to Doc using his head. Then again WE all knew that. Also I think there is something wrong with me. Two of my most satisfying Doc moments he is physicially attacking people-- Damian and now Rex. It sure was fun to watch. Kevin seems so in control, Rex should be frightened. As for Lucy, I agree that she was getting a taste of the effects of this plot by not having friends show up at her party. I think it was very in character for her to be complaining about them not coming. I think in THEORY the plan all sounded so easy to accomplish, but now Lucy is running into some personal hardship because of it. I think her snapping at Eve is an extension of the same thing. Sure she knows Eve and Doc together is all a ruse and part of the plan. I don't think that makes it any easier for Lucy to watch. Being Lucy, she doesn't equate Doc's concern about her and Rex, with her own jealousy towards Eve and Kevin. >> And the look on Kevin's face after he klobbered Rex was almost his Ryan-face. :-) Anne should be happy.<< Yes it was and yes I am. Your saying that reminds me of watching Jon work on GH last April. It was when they thought he might be stalking Felicia again, but he wasn't. Anyway, the director had them run through a scene and then said , "Okay Jon, now do 'your look.' " And he dropped right into his psycho Ryan-like look, it was great. Of course this was just a rehearsal run through so after "his look" he started making all kinds of faces into the camera it was a riot. >> "Oh God, he looks SO scrumptious scruffy!" -- My sister<< It is a wonderful sight isn't it? :-) Anne - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 10:55:23 -0500 From: Rika Subject: Re: K&L: PC Web site daily poll At 11:37 AM 2/4/98 -0800, Taiyin wrote: >At 08:44 AM 2/3/98 -0800, Jessica Thompson wrote: >>My opinion exactly!! Maia had info that was so close to Lucy's heart that, >>unless she automatically suspected an informant and a trap-- which I think >>would be unrealistic-- she would have been stupid not to consider the >>possibility that Maia was real. > >I agree. And her information was on too many different fronts. Not ONLY >did she tap into Lucy's need to know about Serena, but she also did other >more "objective" things like that stock tip business. You've touched on exactly one of my problems with the story. Lucy made a big deal about wanting Maia to tell her about Serena, but if I recall we saw precisely *two* conversations about Serena, both right near the start of the story. Then they moved on to stock tips and never looked back. If Lucy had come back to her hunger to learn about Serena now and then, I would have hated it less. But I'll retract my original remark that it made her look stupid. As you said in another post, Taiyin, "greedy and needy" sums it up pretty well, along with gullible. Of course, we might debate whether or not it's somewhat stupid to be gullible.... but I'd much rather spend the time watching Tuesday's PC again and staring in awe at Kevin!!! :-) And I don't say "gullible" because she believed that Maia *could* have genuine spiritual gifts. I believe that there are people who have them, and now and then the storyline suggested that Maia was one of them (at least up to a point). The problem was in how quickly Lucy trusted her absolutely. Lucy even reassured Kevin at one point by telling him, "I may be many things, but I am not gullible." And that had always been true in the past, I think - Lucy wasn't one to accept people at face value, regardless of her own motives. Or am I forgetting instances of this (which is certainly possible)? And I agree with what you said elsewhere, that Kevin got pretty obnoxious as time went on. To him I think it was much like this situation with Rex. When a threat develops, he starts out being calm, logical, and reasonable, and that usually doesn't work. Later, when things start spinning out of control (at least, in his view), he goes a little nuts. I mean, as funny as the skunk was at the party last night, and as much as I cheered him on, if you view it objectively it was a nasty thing to do to Lucy and to the other party guests. Rika - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 10:55:56 -0800 From: Maia Subject: Re: K&L: Oh, WOW! >>"Oh God, he looks SO scrumptious scruffy!" -- My sister (who I just >>FINALLY managed to s*b to the lists... sucker ), about Kevin >Welcome, Taiyin's sister! :-) And, boy, does he ever!!!!!! Thanks Rika! I know... rrrrrrooooooowwwwwwrrrrrrr I was the one with the remote control while she was transcribing those quotes. I just kept pausing it on his face, so I could drool. and BTW, stop calling me a sucker... at least I waited until I actually had a television to watch them on before I had you sub me. Maia Shea - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 18:33:43 -0500 From: Rika Subject: K&L: Another great day for Kevin Skipping on down...... H E H A S N T S H A V E D Y E T ! Today's PC was..... well, another 'wow'. First off, Kevin's speech to Lucy in the elevator - is there a heart in the world that wouldn't be melted by that man? And it wasn't just the words - it was the amazing intensity. I must have watched it about five times already. And later.... when Kevin visited Rex's house with the news about Sigmund and then begged Lucy to leave with him, that was even more amazing. Yesterday and today, what's real and what's play-acting have merged once and for all. Kevin may claim his hijinks at the party were "part of the act," but he's not just pretending to fight for Lucy - he *is* fighting for her. And today, he wasn't begging her to leave with him just for effect. Those scenes were incredibly powerful - and terribly disturbing. I thought Kevin's crossover to GH was handled well too. It filled a hole in both Kevin's and Mac's storylines, it offered a little plug for what's happening on PC, and it made good use of Kevin and Felicia's history. Anyhow, how nice that Jon got to REALLY show his stuff two days in a row. Plus, it was another day without Scott. Please, TPTB, may I have another? Rika "So, my amazing, intellectual, cerebral doctor would brawl over me?" "You're damn right I would. I'd fight till my last breath. I'd move mountains, send invasions of skunks. I'd haunt your dreams. I will never, ever let you go." -- Lucy and Kevin, 2/4/98 - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 00:41:47 PST From: "NovaLee Murphy" Subject: Re: K&L: Another great day for Kevin Rika wrote: > >Skipping on down...... > >H >E > >H >A >S >N >T > >S >H >A >V >E >D > >Y >E >T >! > > >Today's PC was..... well, another 'wow'. First off, Kevin's speech >to Lucy in the elevator - is there a heart in the world that wouldn't >be melted by that man? And it wasn't just the words - it was the >amazing intensity. I must have watched it about five times already. Scott who? Call me incredibly selfish but from *that* moment Mr. Baldwin, "pal" or not, would have been effectively on his own . Without a doubt. No hesitation, no regrets. I guess Lucy finds these declarations pretty routine because there she was, next scene, back at Chez Stanton cozying up to Rex. Argh. >And later.... when Kevin visited Rex's house with the news about >Sigmund and then begged Lucy to leave with him, that was even more >amazing. > >Yesterday and today, what's real and what's play-acting have merged >once and for all. Kevin may claim his hijinks at the party were >"part of the act," but he's not just pretending to fight for Lucy - >he *is* fighting for her. And today, he wasn't begging her to leave >with him just for effect.Those scenes were incredibly powerful - and >terribly disturbing. Very true. Up until now it's always been easy to differentiate between real and fake but as of today we (and they) have lost track. With Kevin's mentioning in the elevator that his "show" at the party was part of the plan and Lucy's trying to scare Rex into thinking that Kevin may strike again I thought (and maybe I'm alone in this) that his visit *may* have been planned in the elevator, off-screen. But whether it was or not, the Sigmund situation was something neither one of them had counted on, so while Lucy might have expected Kevin to show up with another act for Rex, the very real news of Sigmund completely threw her for a loop. >I thought Kevin's crossover to GH was handled well too. It filled a >hole in both Kevin's and Mac's storylines, it offered a little plug >for what's happening on PC, and it made good use of Kevin and >Felicia's history. LOVED the crossover. > >Anyhow, how nice that Jon got to REALLY show his stuff two days in a >row. Plus, it was another day without Scott. Please, TPTB, may I >have another? I can't say enough good things about Kevin/Jon these past two days. As for Scott, it looks like he'll be back in action tomorrow, but, if the spoilers are correct, he won't be directly involved in the Rex/Kevin battle. Yay! >Rika > "So, my amazing, intellectual, cerebral doctor would brawl over >me?" "You're damn right I would. I'd fight till my last breath. >I'd move mountains, send invasions of skunks. I'd haunt your dreams. >I will never, ever let you go." > -- Lucy and Kevin, 2/4/98 I couldn't snip a word of this. NovaLee ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 11:33:08 -0500 From: Cagey Subject: K&L: A matter of taste Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. So shoot me. I don't like Scruffy Kevin. Granted, it's not as bad as Kevin With Sideburns from his last liason disguise, but I have enough scruffy men in my life. By the shrink a razor. ;) On another note, I can't think of two people who deserve to be skunked more than Amy and Tony . - --kg - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 02:18:06 -0800 From: "Jessica Thompson" Subject: K&L: Re: A matter of taste > So shoot me. I don't like Scruffy Kevin. Granted, it's not as bad as > Kevin With Sideburns from his last liason disguise, but I have enough > scruffy men in my life. By the shrink a razor.> Oh, ouch! :) I so love that man with stubble, with a goatee, and I even thought those sideburns last week were kinda sexy! Of course he is lookin' like the stud he is when he's clean shaven too but, boy oh boy, I am hoping against all hope that he gets to keep this appearance for awhile. Inevitably he will of course shave because he is after all the good doctor, but it fits well with the story right now and it is oh so sexy! As a side note, I've read a couple of times that Lindstrom is too fond of shaving in real life so I bet he enjoys this little indulgence :) - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 17:55:20 -0600 From: Debi Sanders Subject: K&L: Confused Ok I think I am confused about yesterdays episode. So when Kevin went to Rex's, I took it that he was going to get Lucy and that because Rex had killed Siggy that the "game' was over. Then when he saw Siggy was all right, was he still trying to get Lucy to leave or was he back to the "game".? If he was really trying to get her out of there why didn't he tell Rex that the whole thing had been a scam? He looked absolutely devastated when Lucy told him she didn't love him. And completely desperate as they were dragging him out. Now since I won't be able to see today episode until 1:00 AM maybe this will be cleared up some. But meanwhile does anyone here know what is "really" going on? And just for the record (I know I am in the minority here) but I Like Scott!! So sue me. As long as the writers do not make him a threat to Kevin and Lucy in a romantic way, whats so bad about him. Of course they fight about him but that just gives them more opportunity's to make up and that I think is our favorite part NO? Just thought I would put my 2 cents in. Debi - -- --------------------------------------------------------- Debi Sanders http://members.aol.com/DebiVF/THL.html "Come Visit" --------------------------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ End of kevin-and-lucy-digest V1 #17 ***********************************