From: FordTimelord@webtv.net (Dr. Who) Subject: (klf) klf question Date: 01 May 2001 02:25:18 -0400 (EDT) I have a song on the Deconstruction label called "HeartBeat" by a group called -Liasons D Published by Zoo Music/ Warner Chappell Music Ltd./ E G Music Ltd. Under the song tiltle it says: (W. Drummond/J. Cauty) Does anybody have any other info on this .... whether it is a cataloged KLF song or if Liasons D is another alias or if the wonder twins just worked on another song with another group? I can say that it has a very similar beat as WTIL With a deep voiced person speaking. He also says that the music is called "trancedance" making me think that it may be one of the first "trance-y" type songs Anyway any other info would be greatly appreciated!! Thanks as always.... Doc # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: klf@my24.com Subject: Re: (klf) klf question Date: 01 May 2001 06:47:28 -0000 It is part of the KLF "What Time Is Love (Story)" LP... It has credits too KLF since Liasons D basically stole the beat/bassline. :-) Asbjorn On Tue, 1 May 2001 02:25:18 -0400 (EDT) FordTimelord@webtv.net (Dr. Who) wrote: > >I have a song on the Deconstruction label called "HeartBeat" by a group >called -Liasons D Published by Zoo Music/ Warner Chappell Music Ltd./ >E G Music Ltd. > >Under the song tiltle it says: >(W. Drummond/J. Cauty) > > >Does anybody have any other info on this .... >whether it is a cataloged KLF song or if Liasons D is another alias or >if the wonder twins just worked on another song with another group? > >I can say that it has a very similar beat as WTIL >With a deep voiced person speaking. > >He also says that the music is called "trancedance" making me think that >it may be one of the first "trance-y" type songs > >Anyway any other info would be greatly appreciated!! > >Thanks as always.... >Doc -- Get your firstname@lastname email for FREE at http://Nameplanet.com/?su # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Milestighe@aol.com Subject: (klf) CHOC ICE 3 Date: 01 May 2001 05:44:56 EDT Just 1h 45m left on my auction...... Incase you're interested.... Miles # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alan hamilton Subject: (klf) Kassingles Date: 01 May 2001 18:33:04 -0700 (PDT) Tried to mail this before but failed for some reason Is there any point buying KLF Cassingles - different mixes or anything?? Thanks, Alan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "c-Row" Subject: Re: (klf) Kassingles Date: 02 May 2001 06:20:26 +0200 > Is there any point buying KLF Cassingles - different > mixes or anything?? Only if you are a completeist. There´s nothing really special about the Cassingles (at least for the "normal" fan...) cy@ c-Row # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "c-Row" Subject: (klf) (test) Date: 02 May 2001 06:25:44 +0200 Don´t care for this mail, it´s only a test... Since yesterday, none of my mails arrived at the list... (no, they didn´t bounce back - just nothing) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) (test) Date: 02 May 2001 05:55:50 EDT In a message dated 02/05/01 05:31:08 GMT Daylight Time, c-Row@gmx.de writes: > Since yesterday, none of my mails arrived at the list... (no, they didn= =B4t > bounce back - just nothing) I had the same problem about a week or two ago, when someone mentioned about= =20 a repeat of Never Mind The Buzzcocks (with The KLF) I found out what time it= =20 was on and posted that message to the list about 3 or 4 times and it didn't=20 reach the list (probably the owner of this list didn't think NMTB had=20 anything to do with The KLF so deleted it before it reached the list, if you= =20 missed it you know who to blame) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) (test) Date: 02 May 2001 06:04:13 EDT > (probably the owner of this list didn't think NMTB had > anything to do with The KLF so deleted it before it reached the list, if you > missed it you know who to blame) I pretty much dobut it's Lazlo erm.. "censoring" the list. I too had a few posts not show up. i think it's a problem with the list server. -paul Currently in rotation: Proclaimers - Persevere sampler; Kraftwerk - Der Robotmix; Rutles - Rutles, Archaeology www.sayhername.com -- Too Much Joy Official Website Tell your friends. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Maarten" Subject: Re:(klf) 008R run out groove Date: 02 May 2001 12:56:11 +0200 Where does the PR-P originates? I just checked my copy and it's ofcourse also there. And what about that guy who claims these are offical pressings made from the original masters and from a reputable distributor... Haven't KLF deleated everything? Maarten # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) 008R run out groove Date: 02 May 2001 07:03:45 EDT > And what about that guy who claims these are offical > pressings made from the original masters and from a reputable distributor... I doubt this highly. Trying to legitimize the record to make a sale. Same was said about the 1987 boots... -paul Currently in rotation: Proclaimers - Persevere sampler; Kraftwerk - Der Robotmix; Rutles - Rutles, Archaeology www.sayhername.com -- Too Much Joy Official Website Tell your friends. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephane MONTHIEU" Subject: (klf) Instrumental versions Date: 02 May 2001 12:43:58 Hi all, I was watching the vids of TOTP KLF appearence, and I was asking me if it can not be possible that the instrumental versions used during the shows can surface from demo tapes or other CD-R... (like IGUN or 3am...) Nobody have heard of their existence? Cheers Stephane "Steve M.D." MONTHIEU "Ladies and gentlemen, The KLF has now left the building..." _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Torsten Pattberg" Subject: (klf) Wanada does it again! Date: 02 May 2001 17:17:58 +0200 You should check this: http://www.crometechnozone.com/deejays/index.html Damn, Florida is a bit far away... -- Torsten Pattberg www.klf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Craig Earnshaw Subject: Re: (klf) Wanada does it again! Date: 02 May 2001 16:21:49 +0100 Shouldn't someone e-mail them and tell them that the KLF have nothing to do with it!!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Instrumental versions Date: 02 May 2001 13:22:22 EDT In a message dated 02/05/01 13:46:09 GMT Daylight Time, dj_stevemd@hotmail.com writes: > I was watching the vids of TOTP KLF appearence, and I was asking me if it > can not be possible that the instrumental versions used during the shows can > > surface from demo tapes or other CD-R... (like IGUN or 3am...) > > Nobody have heard of their existence? I'm not too sure what you are asking here but I think what you are asking is that you watched TOTP and the BBC used KLF instrumental samples, so where are the demo tapes of these instrumental versions, is that what you are asking? Well I think I know how to find out what the tracks are called, I haven't seen these instrumental bits, but I'm presuming that you are on about them using it for a TOTP advert? if so go to Virgin and tell them that you heard a track on BBC and you would like to get hold of it, they'll give you a number that you can ring and provided you can give the person at the other end the date and time and BBC channel the music was on she can tell you the exact track name (I found about this service when trying to find a song I'd heard at a millennium party last year (808 State - Pacific), they weren't much good though 'cos I heard it on a News 24 advert and they said there own composers write the music and it isn't available (Wouldn't 808's lawyers like to know about that one?), in the end I called Liverpool's Millennium party person (the guy who organised the party I heard it at) and they told me it was either 2001:A Space Odessey or 808 State - Pacific (why 2001 for a Y2K party somebody really ***ked up there :D) having heard 2001, I knew it must b 808 State). btw are 808-State influenced by The KLF 'cos they use an 808 like The KLF and they sound very similar? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuart Bruce Subject: Re: (klf) Instrumental versions Date: 02 May 2001 18:47:48 +0100 (BST) On Wed 02 May, Darrenforster99@aol.com wrote: > I'm not too sure what you are asking here but I think what you are > asking is that you watched TOTP and the BBC used KLF instrumental > samples, so where are the demo tapes of these instrumental versions, > is that what you are asking? I don't think that's what the question meant. I think the question meant, when the KLF performed on TOTP, they used backing tracks which were essentially the radio versions of the tracks, but with certain elements taken out so that the performers onstage could do those bits live. Off the top of my head, I think that only happened on "It's Grim Up North", when the place names were taken out so that Bill Drummond could read them out loud from a sheet of paper. I _think_ (unless I've forgotten one) that on all their other TOTP performances that I've seen, the on-stage performers are miming completely, so they are actually using the versions of the tracks as found on the CDs, not any special instrumental version. > btw are 808-State influenced by The KLF 'cos they use an 808 like The > KLF and they sound very similar? You're joking, right? Around and after '88, _everybody_ used an 808. 808 State don't sound all that similar to the KLF. It's a bit like saying that Coldplay must be influenced by the Beatles because they use similar instruments. Not to mention that 808 State were big before the KLF were big, so if there was any influence there at all (which I personally doubt) then it would have been the other way around. Stuart. -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk The Utah Saints Mailing List http://groups.yahoo.com/group/utahsaints/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Derek Knight" Subject: RE: (klf) Instrumental versions Date: 02 May 2001 19:01:48 +0100 > btw are 808-State influenced by The KLF 'cos they use an 808 like > The KLF and they sound very similar? I suppose it's theoretical that they influenced each other, but I suppose it's more a case of they were using similar equipment at the same time as part of the same scene. The KLF sample a bit of Pacific on Chill Out, so it's pretty clear they had respect for them. Dunno whether there are any other links...? Del Derek Knight djnite@bigfoot.com http://www.djnite.co.uk -------------------------- Derek Knight djk@urn.nottingham.ac.uk http://urn.nottingham.ac.uk/~djk URN: (0115) 951 5522 Home: (0115) 912 8053 Mobile: 07751 086 069 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Maarten" Subject: (klf) Wanda D Date: 02 May 2001 22:18:40 +0200 this is what i sent: WandaDee & K.L.F. (back from the oldskool) Watch Video: [DSL/Cable real video] Read History: [klf.de] [read discography] Oldskool circa 1991-97 ??????? I just heard that the KLF are playing my town! The KLF did very few live performances when they were active under that name, and (obviously) none since their retirement. Sometime KLF guest- vocalist Wanda Dee, on the other hand, has performed hundreds of dates round the world for the past three years under the names "The KLF featuring Wanda Dee", "Wanda Dee and The New KLF", "Wanda Dee and the KLF experience" and so forth, which strangely always seem to be advertised by promoters as just "The KLF". This is probably what you saw a flyer for. Bill and Jimi have nothing whatsoever to do with these "concerts" and would like very much to see them stopped, but it's difficult to pursue legal action against her unless she performs in the UK, which so far she has been savvy enough not to do. You're sure this is KLF? Pfff... This is what i received back: we are doing an investigation ...please be ware that no contracts have been sealed... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Milestighe@aol.com Subject: (klf) KLF car Date: 02 May 2001 17:53:15 EDT Can anyone tell me the make & model of FORDTIMELORD? I'm looking to get a model of the car... Miles # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) KLF car Date: 02 May 2001 19:27:12 EDT In a message dated 02/05/01 23:04:48 GMT Daylight Time, Milestighe@aol.com writes: > Can anyone tell me the make & model of FORDTIMELORD? I'm looking to get a > model of the car... It was the police car used in the Superman 3 movie (or at least that's what Ford Timelord leads us to believe on the back of the 12" of Doctorin' The Tardis) as for the Make and model, it's definatly a Ford (one of the old ones with F O R D across the front not modern blue signature), looking at the 12" picture the reg plate is "WGU 18G" (British) (sheesh that reg will have been re-used the reverse way round about 10 yrs ago!), maybe you can get some more details from the reg plate. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: (klf) KLF & Wanda Dee Date: 02 May 2001 19:30:01 EDT Wow look at this really cool e-mail I just got sent by the people who have been struck by Wanda :D. Looks like Wanda's in a bit of hot water (let's hope she get's sued) :D > Wanda Dee..is Wanda Dee and contact signed by them stating Klf..was > unKnown to us that klf is not klf ...will will investigate more ...if needed > will update with future information... > > > thanks.. > > Russell Laverdiere > Triple Pyramid Productions # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: RE: (klf) KLF car Date: 02 May 2001 18:44:06 -0500 68 Ford Galaxy "Can anyone tell me the make & model of FORDTIMELORD? I'm looking to get a model of the car... Miles" "Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry." D. Banner DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reed Hedges Subject: (klf) Re: KLF car Date: 02 May 2001 20:27:22 -0400 I believe it's a '68 Ford Galaxy..someone correct me if I'm wrong... On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 05:53:15PM -0400, Milestighe@aol.com wrote: > > Can anyone tell me the make & model of FORDTIMELORD? I'm looking to get a > model of the car... > rh -- Reed Hedges reed@zerohour.net http://zerohour.net/~reed see web page for public key info # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Re: KLF car Date: 02 May 2001 20:32:24 EDT In a message dated 03/05/01 01:11:43 GMT Daylight Time, reed@zerohour.net writes: > I believe it's a '68 Ford Galaxy..someone correct me if I'm wrong... Found this on the web, it's a message board for people who want info on 1964 Ford Galaxy's (someone's already asked about die-cast models with no reply) http://www.1inamillioncars.com/mb/1960sCarsArticles/1964FordGalaxy.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FordTimelord@webtv.net (Dr. Who) Subject: (klf) 68 Ford Galaxy Date: 02 May 2001 22:29:24 -0400 (EDT) Its definately a 68 Ford Galaxy...... My brother has one ...........I've suggested painting pyramid blasters on the door....... ...he'll hear nothing of it... Doc # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: (klf) 68 Ford Galaxy Date: 02 May 2001 22:00:25 -0500 You could have some magnetic logos made up. That's what they used on the "Dukes of Hazard" for the multitudes of stunt cars they destroyed. "Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry." D. Banner DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FordTimelord@webtv.net (Dr. Who) Subject: (klf) Re: 68 Ford Galaxy Date: 02 May 2001 23:55:12 -0400 (EDT) I should do that......and then sneek the car out at night, tie some big speakers to the trunk, and.....................I need help # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FordTimelord@webtv.net (Dr. Who) Subject: (klf) Waiting for the rights of mu Date: 03 May 2001 01:41:55 -0400 (EDT) Can someone please tell me what is on the waiting for the rights of mu cd. I saw it on ebay and it had listed track 1: Waiting and track 2: For the rights of mu. Does this contain any familiar KLF songs or totally different songs and if so what style are they....(eg. ambient/house) Thanks for any help Doc # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Deano" Subject: (klf) Ford Timelord Date: 03 May 2001 06:56:42 +0100 Does anyone actually have a screen grab from Superman 3-where Ford makes his appearance? I've looked closely but can't see him! Or am I being very naive? Does he actually appear in any Superman film? If so which film and when!?? Thanks........... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Waiting for the rights of mu Date: 03 May 2001 01:56:14 EDT > I saw it on ebay and it had listed track 1: Waiting and track 2: For > the rights of mu. > > Does this contain any familiar KLF songs or totally different songs and > if so what style are they....(eg. ambient/house) Both are film soundtracks. Waiting is a 45 minute ambient piece a la Chill Out but much harder. Not so sure about Rites of Mu -- it seems to be an extended version of the film's soundtrack. That is, the film is ten minutes, but this track is significantly longer. More ambient stuff, but narrated. -paul Currently in rotation: Proclaimers - Persevere sampler; Kraftwerk - Der Robotmix; Rutles - Rutles, Archaeology www.sayhername.com -- Too Much Joy Official Website Tell your friends. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick King" Subject: (klf) FW: WandaDee & the new K.L.F. (NOT LIKELY)!! Date: 03 May 2001 07:31:54 +0100 E-mail I received from Triple Pyramid Productions... l8rs, Nick ;-) WandaDee & the new K.L.F. ( i understand the concern and we All understand that WandaDee promots herself as the klf..however it will be written as the new K.L.F. otherwise if there is other outcome we will post as we know.. thanks for your email Russell Laverdiere Triple Pyramid Productions # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Parker Subject: RE: (klf) 008R run out groove Date: 03 May 2001 08:58:09 +0100 >>I doubt this highly. Trying to legitimize the record to make a sale. Same was said about the 1987 boots... If this is true then the KLF's lawyers aren't taking much action. Why? The recent releases of Space, Chill OUt and LTT have been sold not just in small ads, record fairs or under the counter. THey are in HMV, Tower Records and countless other reputable outlets. You cannot miss them. How come they are still on-sale if they are bootlegs? If the KLF wanted to keep the back catalogue deleted they don't seem to be trying to hard top stop these well publicised releases. Apparently Space since being re-released is on its 3rd repress and has sold 3000 copies . The KLF's parting words never said that they would not re-release their catalogue, parts have always been available through BMG. James This e-mail message and any attachment(s) are CONFIDENTIAL and may contain legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you should not read, copy, distribute, disclose or otherwise use the information in this e-mail or any attachment(s). Please also e-mail, telephone or fax us immediately and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. 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The KLF would no longer have a lawyer acting on their behalf. Miles # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Parker Subject: RE: (klf) klf lawyers Date: 03 May 2001 09:17:27 +0100 >>The reason the KLF lawyers are not actioning these bootlegs, is because the KLF are no longer 'trading' or performing. The lawyers would simply not be looking after the interests of a band that have dis-banded. The KLF would no longer have a lawyer acting on their behalf. But Bill & Jimmy still exist and may have lawyers representing their interests. This e-mail message and any attachment(s) are CONFIDENTIAL and may contain legally privileged information. 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Please note that any views expressed in this email may be those of the originator and do not necessarily reflect those of this organisation. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nigel_Armstrong@tertio.com Subject: Re: (klf) klf lawyers Date: 03 May 2001 09:23:15 +0100 > The reason the KLF lawyers are not actioning these bootlegs, is because the > KLF are no longer 'trading' or performing. The lawyers would simply not be > looking after the interests of a band that have dis-banded. The KLF would no > longer have a lawyer acting on their behalf. The fact they're disbanded has nothing to do with it - try selling bootlegs of the Beatles and see what happens. What is pertinent is the fact that the record companies - who normally pay the legal fees -don't earn any money from legal KLF releases in the UK so they don't care about bootlegs. Nigel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ford Timelord Subject: Re: (klf) klf lawyers Date: 03 May 2001 10:22:35 +0200 At 04:06 03.05.01 -0400, you wrote: >The reason the KLF lawyers are not actioning these bootlegs, is because the >KLF are no longer 'trading' or performing. The lawyers would simply not be >looking after the interests of a band that have dis-banded. The KLF would no >longer have a lawyer acting on their behalf. If the represses are not legal, there's the possibility for a lawyer to get a great sum of money from the bootlegger as this is more a crime than napstering their songs. And a great sum of money for B&J would be also great for them.... They could burn them again :-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Milestighe@aol.com Subject: (klf) klf lawyers Date: 03 May 2001 05:26:17 EDT I don't think it's really wise to compare the KLF to the Beatles, I mean the= =20 Beatles are a institution not just a band, they are still a multi million=20= =A3/$=20 money making machine, and of course to this day=20 McCartney/Starr/Harrison/Jackson are making a mint. The KLF were good, but not really in the same league (no offence) I don't think that 8/9 years later that the KLF are being represented by a=20 Music Lawyer, at least it's unlikely. You can dispute this as much as you=20 likr. The only way the lawyers would get involved would be if Bill and Jimmy= =20 wanted to take action, it would not be automatic. Miles =20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Waiting for the rights of mu Date: 03 May 2001 06:35:02 EDT In a message dated 03/05/01 06:44:27 GMT Daylight Time, FordTimelord@webtv.net writes: > I saw it on ebay and it had listed track 1: Waiting and track 2: For > the rights of mu. Yep that's right 2 track CD kind of Chill Out style. The Waiting track is someone repeatedly calling the KLF asking for them to get back in touch with them about the rites of mu. Then the second track is about 30-40 minutes of music with certain sound samples mixed in. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Allan" Subject: (klf) Ford Galaxie Date: 03 May 2001 12:59:39 +0100 Surely you want a real one, not a model :) http://listings.ebaymotors.com/aw/listings/list/all/category6613/index.html I've thought about it often, but getting a car from America to Scotland could be quite expensive! Steve. -- The JAMs Are Gonna Tattoo Ya http://www.geocities.com/mumu23uk/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) klf lawyers Date: 03 May 2001 09:20:15 EDT In a message dated 03/05/01 10:28:37 GMT Daylight Time, Milestighe@aol.com writes: > I don't think that 8/9 years later that the KLF are being represented by a > Music Lawyer, at least it's unlikely. You can dispute this as much as you > likr. The only way the lawyers would get involved would be if Bill and Jimmy > wanted to take action, it would not be automatic. Don't the RIAA automatically act as lawyers for the KLF (and all other music artists)? Anyway their music was recorded under KLF Communications which was part of Warner Chappell so it would be Warner Chappell's (now AOL/Time Warner) lawyers that would be trying to protect the music as it's in Warner's interest (due to them getting a percentage from the music, as agreed in the publishing contract, and recording companies hate loosing money especially when they have the power to reclaim it) to protect it not The KLF. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Waiting for the rights of mu Date: 03 May 2001 10:23:31 EDT In a message dated 03/05/01 11:41:08 GMT Daylight Time, Dan.Abel@oyster.com writes: > um, i tihnk you've got a different cd to the one i have then.. Heres the details of my W4RM CD:- Front Cover: KOPYRIGHT LIBERATION FRONT (in white) WAITING FOR THE RIGHTS OF MU (underlines in orange) picture of The KLF and the sheep picture in black with a blue background Back Cover One box with Limited edition (white on black) 3333 (underneath Limited Ed black on white) on the bottom right corner In the bottom left corner theres a guy with shades on and a beach on the other side of him underneath him it says beach (presumably issued by beach records) Main centre piece is 2 circles one large, one small both with white borders, the large one has the barcode at the top (barcode no: 4015698410921) below that in black writing is EBSC8/EB014-4109-2 made in the EEC and below that in white is SPIRIT INJECTION BY REVEREND E.C.H.O. FOR MISSION ,,840" On the left border of the large circle is 1. Waiting 42:39 For 2. The Rites of Mu 29:24, in the large circle is a big red image of the Trancentral speakers (the ones used on The White Room) with an orange background. The smaller circle is in the right of the large circle with the Why Sheep? picture (from the front) drawn in black with a red background and a white pyramid blaster logo Inside back and front cover, exactly the same both have the small circle from the back without the pyramid blaster logo in it (except the back has an orange background and the front has a red background. Inside the inlay On the right is the image from the back without the pyramid blaster done in greyscale. On the left is the following text: Waiting Is 42 Minute Impression Of The Kopyright Liberation Front's 8 Day Visit To The Isle Of Jura Off The West Coast Of Scotland In Spring 1980. Composed, Compiled and Collated By J.Cauty & W.Drummond. FOR The Rites Of Mu Since That Fateful Day When Man Left By Eastern Gate, Fruit Still Fresh In His Belly. Those Four Beautiful Handmaidens Of Lucifer ,,Who, What, Where and When" Have Long Tempted But Never Quenched His Disastrous Thirst For Knowledge. The Kopyright Liberation Front Have Invited A Selection Of Music Industry Figures, Journalists To Join Them In Celebrating The Rites Of Mu For Returning To The Garden Where The Rest Of Creation Waits. The Most Beautiful. Yet Most Evil, Of The Four Handmaidens Is Why. The Kopyright Liberation Front, With Regular Feet Of Clay, Have Weakened At Times And Have Pretended To Answer The Unanswerable. They Too Have Tried To Understand Instead Of Accepting The Unfocusable. Beautiful Truth Of The Mystery That Lies At The Heart Of Pop's Passing Moments. We Will Understand That There Is far Less To Understand Than We Ever Knew. Composed, Compiled And Collated By J.Cauty & W.Drummond. Published by E.G. Music/Zoo Warner Chappel Music. Exempt From Classification. The first track Waiting starts of with someone trying to contact the KLF he's trying to get a hold of The KLF as they have disappeared (probably on the Isle of Jura :D). It then goes on for about 42 minutes with different samples mainly from either the White Room or Chill Out. It also has some rock thrown into it and some church style music (it's just kind of a big mish mash of music!) and even includes a rocket lift off sequence. The second track Rites Of Mu, it starts with the "Ladies & Gentlemen please welcome live on stage The K L F" followed by the "Kick Out The JAMMs Mother Fuckers" sample. Then we start with the "mu" horns, and some asian/latin (?) music, then it has someone talking about the service "We feel helpless like lambs being lead to the slaughter, but obeying is our only hope" (more mu horns and some sheep bells and stuff thrown in for good measure). It then continues with various samples and this guy gives us a full documentrary on the "Rites of Mu". That's an interesting, if The KLF said that KLF never stood for anything how come it says The Kopyright Liberation Front of W4RM? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Ford Timelord Date: 03 May 2001 10:36:16 EDT n a message dated 03/05/01 06:56:29 GMT Daylight Time, dean.ball@ntlworld.com writes: > Does he actually appear in any Superman film? If so which film and when!?? > Thanks........... > I think that was just The KLF making stuff up to add to the Konspiracy, here is exactly what it says on the back of the 12" Dear Punter, The name is Ford Timelord and I'm the leader of the group. You're most probably wondering how me, a yank cop car, is now a local Essex boy making records. I was born in Detroit in 1968, my father worked for the car people there, but in 1970 he got promotion. It meant the family relocating to the Dagenham plant in Essex, England. I grew up always being the odd one out in the junior parking lot and on the runs to Southend but my looks got me cameo and character parts in movies that were being filmed over here. Superman 3 was my biggest break. I fancied my chances in the music game cause I know what people want to hear. So, I mixed and matched some tunes that we all know and love, got some mates down and made this record. Sounds like a hit to me. Success and fame? I can handle it. I've got more going for me than most of the cardboard cut out excuses for pop stars around at the moment. After this I reckon I could be an all round show biz personality, host my own chat show, something like that. Yours Ford But I wouldn't believe any of that due to a couple of reasons 1. The registration plate on Ford is English. 2. If the reg plate was changed when The KLF brought it to England then it would be Q reg. 3. The reg plate was first issued in 1968 in London, UK. BTW - When searching for Ford Galaxy yesterday on the net, I notice Ford have re-introduced the Ford Galaxy, I've never noticed it before but some Ford cars have the signature Galaxy on the bottom in silver. They look nothing like Ford Timelord though :-( # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Waiting for the rights of mu Date: 03 May 2001 10:23:31 EDT In a message dated 03/05/01 11:41:08 GMT Daylight Time, Dan.Abel@oyster.com writes: > um, i tihnk you've got a different cd to the one i have then.. Heres the details of my W4RM CD:- Front Cover: KOPYRIGHT LIBERATION FRONT (in white) WAITING FOR THE RIGHTS OF MU (underlines in orange) picture of The KLF and the sheep picture in black with a blue background Back Cover One box with Limited edition (white on black) 3333 (underneath Limited Ed black on white) on the bottom right corner In the bottom left corner theres a guy with shades on and a beach on the other side of him underneath him it says beach (presumably issued by beach records) Main centre piece is 2 circles one large, one small both with white borders, the large one has the barcode at the top (barcode no: 4015698410921) below that in black writing is EBSC8/EB014-4109-2 made in the EEC and below that in white is SPIRIT INJECTION BY REVEREND E.C.H.O. FOR MISSION ,,840" On the left border of the large circle is 1. Waiting 42:39 For 2. The Rites of Mu 29:24, in the large circle is a big red image of the Trancentral speakers (the ones used on The White Room) with an orange background. The smaller circle is in the right of the large circle with the Why Sheep? picture (from the front) drawn in black with a red background and a white pyramid blaster logo Inside back and front cover, exactly the same both have the small circle from the back without the pyramid blaster logo in it (except the back has an orange background and the front has a red background. Inside the inlay On the right is the image from the back without the pyramid blaster done in greyscale. On the left is the following text: Waiting Is 42 Minute Impression Of The Kopyright Liberation Front's 8 Day Visit To The Isle Of Jura Off The West Coast Of Scotland In Spring 1980. Composed, Compiled and Collated By J.Cauty & W.Drummond. FOR The Rites Of Mu Since That Fateful Day When Man Left By Eastern Gate, Fruit Still Fresh In His Belly. Those Four Beautiful Handmaidens Of Lucifer ,,Who, What, Where and When" Have Long Tempted But Never Quenched His Disastrous Thirst For Knowledge. The Kopyright Liberation Front Have Invited A Selection Of Music Industry Figures, Journalists To Join Them In Celebrating The Rites Of Mu For Returning To The Garden Where The Rest Of Creation Waits. The Most Beautiful. Yet Most Evil, Of The Four Handmaidens Is Why. The Kopyright Liberation Front, With Regular Feet Of Clay, Have Weakened At Times And Have Pretended To Answer The Unanswerable. They Too Have Tried To Understand Instead Of Accepting The Unfocusable. Beautiful Truth Of The Mystery That Lies At The Heart Of Pop's Passing Moments. We Will Understand That There Is far Less To Understand Than We Ever Knew. Composed, Compiled And Collated By J.Cauty & W.Drummond. Published by E.G. Music/Zoo Warner Chappel Music. Exempt From Classification. The first track Waiting starts of with someone trying to contact the KLF he's trying to get a hold of The KLF as they have disappeared (probably on the Isle of Jura :D). It then goes on for about 42 minutes with different samples mainly from either the White Room or Chill Out. It also has some rock thrown into it and some church style music (it's just kind of a big mish mash of music!) and even includes a rocket lift off sequence. The second track Rites Of Mu, it starts with the "Ladies & Gentlemen please welcome live on stage The K L F" followed by the "Kick Out The JAMMs Mother Fuckers" sample. Then we start with the "mu" horns, and some asian/latin (?) music, then it has someone talking about the service "We feel helpless like lambs being lead to the slaughter, but obeying is our only hope" (more mu horns and some sheep bells and stuff thrown in for good measure). It then continues with various samples and this guy gives us a full documentrary on the "Rites of Mu". That's an interesting, if The KLF said that KLF never stood for anything how come it says The Kopyright Liberation Front of W4RM? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jboy" Subject: (klf) test message Date: 03 May 2001 16:34:28 +0100 nothing 2 worry about..... jboy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rob Myers" Subject: Re: (klf) Ford Timelord Date: 03 May 2001 15:58:15 >I grew up always being the odd one out in the junior parking lot and on the >runs to Southend but my looks got me cameo and character parts in movies >that >were being filmed over here. Superman 3 was my biggest break. If this is true, Ford is probably referring to "Superman IV" not "Superman III" as IV was (mostly) filmed in the UK, and III was filmed in the US and Canada. III: http://us.imdb.com/Title?0086393 IV: http://us.imdb.com/Title?0094074 >But I wouldn't believe any of that due to a couple of reasons >1. The registration plate on Ford is English. >2. If the reg plate was changed when The KLF brought it to England then it >would be Q reg. >3. The reg plate was first issued in 1968 in London, UK. None of that contradicts Ford's story if he was in the UK since '68, and that's where he was used in the filming of Superman IV... :) Guess it's worth renting the movie to find out if he's in it or not. Rob _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Craig Earnshaw Subject: Re: (klf) Ford Timelord Date: 03 May 2001 17:02:23 +0100 > Guess it's worth renting the movie to find out if he's in it or not. You've got to be joking :-) It's got to be one of the worst films out there..... Craig! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Torsten Pattberg" Subject: Re: (klf) Waiting for the rights of mu Date: 03 May 2001 18:18:20 +0200 > That's an interesting, if The KLF said that KLF never stood for anything how > come it says The Kopyright Liberation Front of W4RM? Because it is a bootleg. -- Torsten Pattberg www.klf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reed Hedges Subject: Re: (klf) klf lawyers Date: 03 May 2001 12:56:33 -0400 In other words, why bother? Boots don't compete with legitimate sales, really, cause there are none. On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 04:06:36AM -0400, Milestighe@aol.com wrote: > > The reason the KLF lawyers are not actioning these bootlegs, is because the > KLF are no longer 'trading' or performing. The lawyers would simply not be > looking after the interests of a band that have dis-banded. The KLF would no > longer have a lawyer acting on their behalf. > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Lindgren" Subject: Re: (klf) Instrumental versions Date: 03 May 2001 17:20:55 Hello everybody, >Off the top of my head, I think that only happened on "It's Grim Up >North", when the place names were taken out so that Bill Drummond >could>read them out loud from a sheet of paper. I _think_ (unless >I've>forgotten one) that on all their other TOTP performances that I've >seen,>the on-stage performers are miming completely, so they are >actually>using the versions of the tracks as found on the CDs, not any >special>instrumental version. Also J&A on totp was an instrumental and not any miming was done, Ricardo raps live and Maxine (?) sings live with Tammy on a big screen. - david _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Blake" Subject: RE: (klf) Ford Galaxie Date: 03 May 2001 18:24:04 +0100 > Surely you want a real one, not a model :) > > http://listings.ebaymotors.com/aw/listings/list/all/category6613/i > ndex.html > > I've thought about it often, but getting a car from America to > Scotland could be quite expensive! Unfortunately, none of those Galaxies are the right model. Phil. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Ford Timelord Date: 03 May 2001 19:52:34 EDT In a message dated 03/05/01 17:00:36 GMT Daylight Time, rpm1200@hotmail.com writes: > Guess it's worth renting the movie to find out if he's in it or not. Why not just watch it when UK Gold or Sci Fi show it AGAIN! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Waiting for the rights of mu Date: 03 May 2001 19:55:41 EDT In a message dated 03/05/01 17:17:23 GMT Daylight Time, Torsten@Klf.De writes: > Because it is a bootleg. How can it be bootleg when I bought it from Virgin, Virgin only deal with proper manufacturers not Bricky Bob and his band of merry con-merchants :D, and also it says it was released by Warner Chappel (which is one of the largest recording companies in the world) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) klf lawyers Date: 03 May 2001 20:01:38 EDT > > Don't the RIAA automatically act as lawyers for the KLF (and all other > music > > artists)? > > No, they don't. And think about what the last A stands for. I was thinking about that when I found them on Napster (Recording Industry of America A????????? -maybe a...holes :D) > > > Anyway their music was recorded under KLF Communications which was part of > > Warner Chappell > > No, it wasn't. > So what was the connection with Warner Chappel, all discs of the KLF I have have The KLF communications (Zoo music/Warner Chappel)? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: RE: (klf) Waiting for the rights of mu Date: 03 May 2001 19:02:29 -0500 As the story was told some time ago Jimmy did the majority of the work on these 2 soundtracks. He's friends with the owner of Echo Beach. It was my understanding that he gave the owner the go ahead to release the soundtracks. I don't know that he got any money from it. I don't think he cared. I don't remember seeing anything about Warner Chappel on it. ...just Echo Beach. How can it be bootleg when I bought it from Virgin, Virgin only deal with proper manufacturers not Bricky Bob and his band of merry con-merchants :D, and also it says it was released by Warner Chappel (which is one of the largest recording companies in the world) "Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry." D. Banner DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Derek Knight" Subject: RE: (klf) klf lawyers Date: 04 May 2001 01:12:47 +0100 > > > Anyway their music was recorded under KLF Communications which was part of > > > Warner Chappell > > > > No, it wasn't. > > > > So what was the connection with Warner Chappel, all discs of the KLF I have > have The KLF communications (Zoo music/Warner Chappel)? That's publishing. Unconnected to record company. Presumably Bill signed a publishing contract with Warner when in Big In Japan and Jimi with Zoo when in Brilliant. Del Derek Knight djnite@bigfoot.com http://www.djnite.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rob Myers" Subject: Re: (klf) Ford Timelord Date: 04 May 2001 02:12:16 > > Guess it's worth renting the movie to find out if he's in it or not. >Why not just watch it when UK Gold or Sci Fi show it AGAIN! No cable... Anyway I am well aware that it is a bad movie, but it's worth it for the trainspotting opportunity. If it gets too bad I'll hit the ffwd button and slow it down when I see cop cars. Time to "throw back a couple of baddies" as Mike Nelson says... Rob _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: laerm Subject: Re: (klf) Waiting for the rights of mu Date: 03 May 2001 22:18:34 -0400 (EDT) On Thu, 3 May 2001 Darrenforster99@aol.com wrote: > and also it says it was released by Warner Chappel (which is one of > the largest recording companies in the world) uhh, you can print anything you want on a bootleg sleeve. micah stupak /"\ laerm@soulfood.org ascii ribbon campaign \ / international bright young kook against HTML email X / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Virtanen Mikko Subject: RE: (klf) Waiting for the rights of mu Date: 04 May 2001 08:31:46 +0300 While we are on this topic... I've found somewhere, propably from Napster, a track called "The Rites of Mu (Whiggy's ambient edit)". It's like the long version, but without narration and some other stuff. Duration is 9:27. Anyone know where does this come from? .mikkov # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: c-Row Subject: RE: (klf) Waiting for the rights of mu Date: 04 May 2001 08:31:23 +0200 >I've found somewhere, propably from Napster, >a track called "The Rites of Mu (Whiggy's >ambient edit)". It's like the long version, >but without narration and some other stuff. >Duration is 9:27. Anyone know where does >this come from? Whiggy is (was ?) member of the KLF Mailing List. Would turn this into a (very good) fan-made mix. cy@ c-Row PS. Didn´t he also mix the Different Project mixes of FTM ? Or do I mix things up now ? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jboy" Subject: (klf) Solid Gold Chartbusters Date: 04 May 2001 12:31:36 +0100 Anyone got the Quicktime /mpeg of the video for the song.... regards jboy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ford Timelord Subject: (klf) Kompetition Date: 04 May 2001 15:07:59 +0200 Hello folks, i was asked after the results of the first kompetition.... i don't think the four votes are representative for more than 30 tracks.... so, after the tracks are spread via cd-r's (thanks to the guy who did this :-) ), i think there are more than four people ready to give votes for the best tracks. Mail me a list with your five favorite tracks of the kompetition till 31/05/01. After that date i will present you the official winner of the komp. Over and Out Ford Timelord (founder of the first remix kompetition) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Torsten Pattberg" Subject: (klf) Juergen Koppers Date: 04 May 2001 15:40:46 +0200 Has anybody some further information about Juergen Koppers (the WTIL Power mix remixer). I just found his name on another disc (Donna Summer), is he a kind of famous remixer? -- Torsten Pattberg www.klf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Milestighe@aol.com Subject: (klf) trinity CDR Date: 04 May 2001 09:41:08 EDT To; vischer, timo toivonen & happy consumer, you copies of the mixes will be with you next week, sorry but have only just copied them!(oops) To the 3 guys in UK that I have already sent copies to, please let me know what you think. Thanks, Miles Tighe # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Torsten Pattberg" Subject: (klf) Wanda Dee Date: 04 May 2001 15:55:59 +0200 http://www.crometechnozone.com/deejays/index.html has removed the link to www.klf.de :-) Probably because of the new welcome text... -- Torsten Pattberg www.klf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Wanda Dee Date: 04 May 2001 12:17:27 EDT > http://www.crometechnozone.com/deejays/index.html > has removed the link to www.klf.de :-) > Probably because of the new welcome text... Ha! Good one Torsten! Anyone with a KLF site should protest Technozone and insist they be disassociated with Wanda's entry. -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "happy consumer!" Subject: (klf) Wanda Dee/Truth in Advertising Date: 04 May 2001 13:29:41 -0700 thats the kind of stuff that happens when idiots make livings off of good things. lies & exploitation of anything that will sell. like a disease, spoiling & overtaking lush fields of quality and integrity. chrome techno zone. how inspired. it would be justice for whoever maintains http://www.algonet.se/%7Eanders/klf/ to retaliate. . there's still a link to this page. torsten, that was a cool thing to do. the landing page looks great. fuck the jackals. -happyconsumer http://www.crometechnozone.com/deejays/index.html > has removed the link to www.klf.de :-) > Probably because of the new welcome text... > Torsten Visit the world's greatest site at http://www.farts.com and listen to the fart of the day. Also, get your very own farts.com E-mail account. FREE!!!!! - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - advertisement - - - - - - Limited Time Offer: FREE Products! Pay only shipping and handling. Get FREE Software, CDR's, Cellular Accessories, Videos, DVD's, Music, Injet Refills and much more. Only when you click here now - - > http://www.free-irewards.com/cgi-bin/bmb2 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Derek Knight" Subject: (klf) WTIL On Dance Years 1990 Date: 05 May 2001 02:22:43 +0100 I just happened to tune in to ITV late this evening and caught most of the Dance Years 1990. It was on from 1am til 2am, and presented by everyone's favourite gap toothed gypsy Dave Pearce. There was a Top Ten tunes of the year, and a round up of all the events in club land. What Time Is Love clocked in at no.6 in the chart, and it had clips from the video interspersed with various dance music people raving about it (Paul Oakenfold, David Morales, etc.) Not a bad program, all in all. It obviously focuses on the poppier side of dance, but still good for nostalgia's sake. I'll certainly be tuning over the next couple of weeks to see if 3am Eternal features in 1991 and if the Brits performance appears in 1992. (The no.1 for 1990, in case anyone's interested, was Adamski - Killer.) Del Derek Knight djnite@bigfoot.com http://www.djnite.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: Re: (klf) Solid Gold Chartbusters Date: 05 May 2001 05:32:24 > >Anyone got the Quicktime /mpeg of the video for the song.... It's on the CD. Chad Gombosi Member SCP www.scponline.net Chad's Game Music Page www.chadsgamemusic.com MP3.com page: www.mp3.com/signofzeta "Let me explain a couple of things. Time is short. That's the first thing. For the weasel, Time is a weasel. For the hero, Time is heroic. For the whore, Time is just another trick. If you're gentle, your Time is gentle. If you're in a hurry, Time flies. Time is a servant, if you are its master. Time is your god, if you are its dog. We are the creators of Time, the victims of Time, and the killers of Time. Time is timeless. That's the second thing. You are the clock, Cassiel." Emit - Far Away So Close _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Torsten Pattberg" Subject: Fw: (klf) New discography Date: 05 May 2001 10:26:40 +0200 Unten steht die Adresse von dem der die Eternity CD haben möchte. Schick sie ihm bitte zu, Porto usw. bekommst du von mir wieder. Danke. -- Torsten Pattberg www.klf.de Simon Coward 93 Old Park Road Dudley West Midlands DY1 3NE United Kingdom # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rev. Erik C Elmshauser D.D." Subject: Re: (klf) Ford Timelord Date: 05 May 2001 03:18:04 -0700 my understanding was that they bought it used from a movie lot after it had been moved to GB from the states. it had been around for years and used in movies and then sold off to B&J after it was out of it's prime. but i have been wrong before... --Erik At 10:36 AM 5/3/2001 -0400, you wrote: >But I wouldn't believe any of that due to a couple of reasons >1. The registration plate on Ford is English. >2. If the reg plate was changed when The KLF brought it to England then it >would be Q reg. >3. The reg plate was first issued in 1968 in London, UK. Rev. Dr. Erik C. Elmshauser D.D. Driven by Passion, Stomped by Screaming girls, Master of none # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jboy" Subject: Re: (klf) Solid Gold Chartbusters Date: 04 May 2001 11:33:57 +0100 I havent got the CD..Hence Asking... It's for a particualar section of images I am after.... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "c-Row" Subject: (klf) Oops, they did it again... Date: 05 May 2001 16:50:12 +0200 It happened again... will they ever learn it ? Just watched VIVA (german equivalent to MTV), and without any warning, they were on the screen - Scooter ! With their new single... "Posse (I need you on the floor)". Ok, of course that´s bad enough, but - as you might already guess - there is just another KLF link. And this time it is quite clear to identify. "Posse"... ... EXTENSIVELY uses the key notes of the WTIL bass line. ... uses the same chords in the refrain that are used in 3 a.m. eternal (pure trance edits) ... ripped the "shutdown" sample from the WTIL LP edit (echoing drum between J&A and the beginning of WTIL) Besides that, there is nothing special about it - as usual... ;-) cy@ c-Row # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dan Kuta" Subject: (klf) Orb Mix Date: 05 May 2001 12:27:38 +0200 Hi all, I've just got a Front 242 remix CD with three ORB remixes on it (two of them "unreleased" it says...). The mixes are great, especially the more danceable Victor The Cleaner Mix of "Rhythm of life"! In this mix Alex uses the same sample that is used on the 3AM Moody Boys remix "Klonk Blip Every Trip" - a strange vocal sample, like a drunken yelling or something... Ideas anyone what kind of sample this could be? Just curious, Dan --- DJ Kuta, KLF Online (www.klf.de) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Maarten Bouwes" Subject: (klf) New KLF mix ? Date: 05 May 2001 18:55:28 -0000 From the Orb list: >Black Star Liner : Yemen Cutta Connection >2001 Echo Beach GE > >12. KLF Remix > >"Track 12 was made in a green armoured car on a hillside in Devon" > >Is it an old mix ? Or a new one ? Wasn´t that Triple A? Let me know please! Maarten _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Smiley?= Subject: (klf) RE: New KLF mix?? Date: 05 May 2001 21:02:03 +0100 (BST) jc wrote: > I know, we're not on the KLF list, but I found today > Black Star Liner : Yemen Cutta Connection > 2001 Echo Beach GE > 12. KLF Remix > Is it an old mix ? Or a new one ? it's an old mix, but it has only just surfaced commercially. you can order it from www.amazon.de (in stock) or www.amazon.co.uk (4-6 weeks IF they can get it!). it was mentioned on the klf list recently by someone who had it, but didn't really get much response for some reason... ...anyway, now we all know that it DOES exist, and where we can get it. l8rs. --- Smiley ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) RE: New KLF mix?? Date: 05 May 2001 17:50:45 EDT > > 12. KLF Remix > > Is it an old mix ? Or a new one ? [...] > you can order it from www.amazon.de (in stock) or > www.amazon.co.uk (4-6 weeks IF they can get it!). It appears that this also appears on the US issue -- a few of the US sites which list the track listing for the disc have this listed. Cool. -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Torsten Pattberg" Subject: Fw: (klf) New discography Date: 06 May 2001 01:08:12 +0200 Sorry, please forget my last message... A little mistake :-( -- Torsten Pattberg www.klf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Waiting for the rights of mu Date: 06 May 2001 02:20:05 EDT > >I've found somewhere, propably from Napster, > >a track called "The Rites of Mu (Whiggy's=20 > >ambient edit)". It's like the long version,=20 > >but without narration and some other stuff. > >Duration is 9:27. Anyone know where does=20 > >this come from? > =20 > Whiggy is (was ?) member of the KLF Mailing List. Would turn this into a=20= ( > very good) fan-made mix. That is correct. After Rites (or should I say Rights) came out he edited th= e=20 track down to eliminate the narration. Forgot about that mix. > PS. Didn=B4t he also mix the Different Project mixes of FTM ? Or do I mix= =20 > things up now ? I dont think he had a hand in the DP mixes -- and if anyone hasn't heard the= =20 10 min WTIL megamix youre missing a treat -- but he did do a nice job in=20 cleaning up the White Room Demos (pre- WROST). -paul Currently in rotation: Proclaimers - Persevere sampler; Kraftwerk - Der=20 Robotmix; Rutles - Rutles, Archaeology www.sayhername.com -- Too Much Joy Official Website Tell your friends. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Waiting for the rights of mu Date: 06 May 2001 07:35:24 EDT In a message dated 06/05/01 07:23:44 GMT Daylight Time, TheMgnt@aol.com writes: > After Rites (or should I say Rights) What's the proper name for the Rites/Rights of Mu, I just checked on my CD and on the front it has Waiting for the RIGHTS of mu and on the back it says 1. Waiting FOR 2. The RITES of Mu (it also says Rites of mu on the inside front cover) and on the sides it's RIGHTS? The English language can be so confusing at times :D # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Derek Knight" Subject: RE: (klf) Waiting for the rights of mu Date: 06 May 2001 12:44:34 +0100 > What's the proper name for the Rites/Rights of Mu, I just checked on my CD > and on the front it has Waiting for the RIGHTS of mu and on the back it says > 1. Waiting FOR 2. The RITES of Mu (it also says Rites of mu on the inside > front cover) and on the sides it's RIGHTS? Well, as an English scholar, I'd say it should be "Rites" as it's describing a ceremony. "Rights" doesn't really make sense. > The English language can be so confusing at times :D Yes, but also fun for puns. (Doctorin' The Tardis, etc!) Del Derek Knight djnite@bigfoot.com http://www.djnite.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Waiting for the rights of mu Date: 06 May 2001 08:01:39 EDT > > After Rites (or should I say Rights) > > What's the proper name for the Rites/Rights of Mu, I just checked on my CD > and on the front it has Waiting for the RIGHTS of mu and on the back it says > 1. Waiting FOR 2. The RITES of Mu (it also says Rites of mu on the inside > front cover) and on the sides it's RIGHTS? The name of the track/film is RITES, as it's about a ceremony. However, the CD is called RIGHTS -- either as the typical bootleg typo or, as indication of it's bootleg nature, a pun meaning copywrite. -paul Currently in rotation: Proclaimers - Persevere sampler; Kraftwerk - Der Robotmix www.sayhername.com -- Too Much Joy Official Website Tell your friends. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Torsten Pattberg" Subject: (klf) http://www.skunk.nu [OT?] Date: 06 May 2001 17:34:22 +0200 http://www.skunk.nu Is there a swedish person on the list who can explain me, why a lot of people visit KLF Online via that page? I tried to find it out but understand not one word ;-) -- Torsten Pattberg www.klf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anders Hultman Subject: Re: (klf) http://www.skunk.nu [OT?] Date: 06 May 2001 18:33:46 +0200 Torsten Pattberg: >http://www.skunk.nu > >Is there a swedish person on the list who can explain me, why a lot of >people visit KLF Online via that page? I tried to find it out but understand >not one word ;-) Skunk is a virtual online community, i.e. a chat site. Mostly visited by teenagers who flirt with each other in the usual net.way. The users can put up their own presentation pages with pictures and links and stuff. No clue why you get visits that way, though. anders ------------------------- http://anders.hultman.nu/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) http://www.skunk.nu [OT?] Date: 06 May 2001 14:19:35 EDT In a message dated 06/05/01 17:37:36 GMT Daylight Time, anders@algonet.se=20 writes: > No clue why you get visits that way, though. It could be something to do with the following message board (I thought I'd=20 go in and see what is going on in there with the KLF even though I can't=20 understand a word of Swedish, if it's KLF I wanna know ***k whether I can=20 read the thing!). It mentions What Time is Love, The White Room, 3AM,=20 Doctorin' The Tardis, LTTT, and Chill Out so it sounds pretty KLF-ish=20 (you'll have to get someone else to tell you what the rest of the text means= =20 'cos I don't know. Could be something to do with that Sweden trick they did= =20 with Abba?) meddelanden Visa alla - D=F6lj alla=20 Trancemazter 2001-04-23 08:47 =20 jag har den n=E4mligen instrumental fr=E5n en LP. misst=E4nker the white roo= m.=20 =20 nineinchnails 2001-04-17 23:54 =20 ingen aning.. har aldirg h=F6rt den instrumental.=20 =20 Trancemazter 2001-04-13 10:34 =20 Finns det n=E5n instrumental version av What time is love p=E5 the white roo= m?=20 =20 nineinchnails 2001-04-02 00:12 =20 ...=E4r inte s=E5 insatt heller.=20 =20 Trancemazter 2001-03-30 11:09 =20 d=E5 har jag nog f=F6rv=E4xlat det med n=E5n annan grupp=20 =20 nineinchnails 2001-03-28 00:02 =20 inte vad jag vet? har inget h=F6rt i alla fall...=20 =20 Trancemazter 2001-03-27 11:49 =20 gjorde inte de n=E5nting ihop med Run DMC?=20 =20 nineinchnails 2001-03-25 15:52 =20 kan inga....=20 =20 Trancemazter 2001-03-24 09:37 =20 VAd finns det f=F6r bra KLF l=E5tar f=F6rrutom LTTT, Justified and Ancient,=20= 3AM, Dr=20 Who?=20 =20 nineinchnails 2001-03-24 01:56 =20 det blir l=E4tt s=E5...=20 =20 Trancemazter 2001-03-21 19:31 =20 Jag vill ha pengar , massor, men fr aldrig tillr=E4ckligt mycket=20 =20 nineinchnails 2001-03-19 10:10 =20 jag hatar pengar... det =E4r d=E4rf=F6r jag aldrig har n=E5ra...=20 =20 Trancemazter 2001-03-19 09:52 =20 det va tydlien inte enbart white room de hade. =E4ven chill=B4out och n=E5nt= in med=20 Tardis. Skoj! F=E5r n=E4stan vinna p=E5 lotto eller n=E5tt f=F6r att hya r= =E5d med allt=20 man vill k=F6pa=20 =20 nineinchnails 2001-03-19 00:43 =20 okej...=20 =20 Trancemazter 2001-03-18 11:37 =20 1 timmes resa ifr=E5n. =C4r d=E4r r=E4tt ofta s=E5 det =E4r inga problem=20 =20 nineinchnails 2001-03-18 02:37 =20 ...om inte annat, s=E5kan dom alltid best=E4lla in skivor dit. bor du i g= =F6teborg?=20 =20 Trancemazter 2001-03-17 11:55 =20 s=E5g att de hade en del skivor p=E5 Skivhugget med KLF=20 http://www.skivhugget.se=20 =20 nineinchnails 2001-03-17 00:31 =20 sj=E4lvklart.=20 =20 Trancemazter 2001-03-16 19:08 =20 KLF existerar inte som grupp mer, men finns kvar i v=E5ras minnen=20 =20 nineinchnails 2001-03-15 23:04 =20 ..har inte h=F6rt s=E5 mycket, f=F6r att vara =E4rlig. men det jag h=F6rt=20= =E4r grymt.=20 =20 =20 =BB N=E4sta =20 KLF =20 =BB Nytt inl=E4gg =BB G=E5 med i grupp =BB Skapa ny grupp=20 =BB Visa medlemmar =BB Visa gruppsidan=20 =20 Gruppinformation =20 Skapad av: Antal medlemmar: 2=20 Skapades: 2001-03-03 03:46=20 Gruppens hemsida =20 =20 Gruppbeskrivning =20 =20 =20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Torsten Pattberg" Subject: (klf) KLF-PROMO-{A1/B1} Date: 06 May 2001 22:06:51 +0200 I just "found" a copy of KLF-PROMO-{A1/B1}, in the discography it is listed with 12"WL: 19?? ?? (M.G. Underground Sound; KLF-PROMO-{A1/B1}) [promo; generic A] 6:55 Kylie In A Trance (extended) 6:32 Kylie In A Trance (remix) Why is it labeled "MG Underground Sound"? Where does that come from? Having "Adrenalin" and "KLF-PROMO-{A1/B1}" in the run out groove and the generic sleeve it looks like a regular KLF Communicatios release to me... Anybody else who has this record? -- Torsten Pattberg www.klf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuey and Michelle Subject: Re: (klf) Waiting for the rights of mu Date: 07 May 2001 12:36:17 +1200 Darrenforster99@aol.com wrote: > What's the proper name for the Rites/Rights of Mu, I just checked on my CD > and on the front it has Waiting for the RIGHTS of mu and on the back it says > 1. Waiting FOR 2. The RITES of Mu (it also says Rites of mu on the inside > front cover) and on the sides it's RIGHTS? The event on Jura, the film and the track are all Rites of Mu (as previous posters said Rites = ceremony). But the CD title is Waiting for the Rights of Mu - which as Paul suggests is a pun on copyright - perhaps this means that Echo Beach approached Jimi and asked can we release this, and he said yes, but then there was no official confirmation, so they were waiting for the rights, but they decided to release it anyway, like Paul I think that the Rites - Rights is not a spelling mistake and it was deliberate by Echo Beach. cheers -- Stuart Young and Michelle Ardern, say.map@ihug.co.nz 66a Sackville Street, Tel: +64 (0)9 376 8100 Grey Lynn, Auckland, NZ Stuey is webmaster of the New Zealand Green Party: http://www.greens.org.nz/ And webmaster of his own personal website too: http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~stuey/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: vischer@access.ch Subject: (klf) Instore Sampler Date: 08 May 2001 03:07:04 +0200 Hi 1) What is the "Instore Sampler"? I know it was discussed here.. sorry for asking again! 2) And is there a connection between Tom Tom's "Replay" with the KLF (or with "Sex Is The Answer")? 3) What is a reasonable prize for F*** The Millennium - Japan Ed. MTOCP50386? 4) What is the difference of the Japan#s TOPC and MTOPC? cheers.. Simon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David A" Subject: (klf) Scooter did it again & again ... Date: 08 May 2001 09:41:47 +0200 Hi, I just heard their remix to 'Win The Race' by Modern Talking, and they used the LTTT [Live From The Lost Continent] intro (Ok, Everybody . .) twice(!) Regards, David A. *now playin' : Infected Mushroom - B.P. Empire* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ford Timelord Subject: Re: (klf) Scooter did it again & again ... Date: 08 May 2001 12:49:59 +0200 >I just heard their remix to 'Win The Race' by Modern Talking, and they used >the LTTT [Live From The Lost Continent] intro (Ok, Everybody . .) twice(!) We should ask them to join the next season of the Remix Kompetition ;-) Someone should try to interview them (perhaps somebody of klf.de?) and ask them why they are fans of the klf..... Over and Out! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuart Bruce Subject: Re: (klf) Scooter did it again & again ... Date: 08 May 2001 12:00:33 +0100 (BST) On Tue 08 May, Ford Timelord wrote: > Someone should try to interview them (perhaps somebody of klf.de?) and > ask them why they are fans of the klf..... That's too easy a question. You should ask them why they continually rehash ten-year-old samples of an English band, instead of coming up with their own ideas... Stuart. -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk The Utah Saints Mailing List http://groups.yahoo.com/group/utahsaints/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ford Timelord Subject: Re: (klf) Scooter did it again & again ... Date: 08 May 2001 13:19:31 +0200 >That's too easy a question. You should ask them why they continually >rehash ten-year-old samples of an English band, instead of coming up >with their own ideas... As they came up with their first "track" called "hyper hyper" they copied the scottish raveband "Ultrasonic". They never have had own ideas. It's just funny to read a interview of Scooter with a german magazine where they say they can't understand that people like Marusha or Westbam (german DJ's) say their (Scooter's) music is shit and always copying others styles. Further they said, those people were only jealous because Scooter are making big underground smashers (i never knew that scooter is underground!?!?). More to say about them? Over and Out! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuart Bruce Subject: (klf) Kompetition- my new votes Date: 08 May 2001 14:01:48 +0100 (BST) Even if everybody else isn't bothering, I'm going to alter my votes for the Kompetition tracks a little bit, because I've just listened to all 40 of them through again this morning. One of the main reasons I think so few people have voted is that there are far too many tracks- 40 tracks totalling over three hours of listening, which a lot of people won't have bothered with. If there's ever another Kompetition, I'd suggest a limit of 1 or 2 tracks entered per person, otherwise it's just going to get ridiculous again (was ODC1 very bored, or just desperate to win?) Anyway, here's my revised top 10: 1. DJ Nite vs The KLF- Britney Joins The JAMs 2. Big Louis- Kylie in a Trance (funk original) 3. DJ Nite vs The KLF- What Time Is Top Of The Pops 4. The KLF- Last Train To The Subbass (ODC1) 5. Who Killed The North (Kay El Eph) 6. DJ Kuta- The KLF vs The 80s 7. No More Tears (driving all the way by ODC1) 8. 3am Eternal (MuMu seekers so nice dream edit) 9. Justified & Ancient (ODC1 meets JABU & USIFU) 10. Kay El Eph- The Valentine Needs (Mad Love mix) Stuart. -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk The Utah Saints Mailing List http://groups.yahoo.com/group/utahsaints/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Scooter did it again & again ... Date: 08 May 2001 12:25:59 EDT In a message dated 08/05/01 12:07:11 GMT Daylight Time, klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk writes: > You should ask them why they continually > rehash ten-year-old samples of an English band, instead of coming up > with their own ideas... Shouldn't we be happy they're using KLF material, and keeping The KLF flame (or money :D) burning bright (just as long as they include information about where the samples come from) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuart Bruce Subject: Re: (klf) Scooter did it again & again ... Date: 08 May 2001 18:04:20 +0100 (BST) On Tue 08 May, Darrenforster99@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 08/05/01 12:07:11 GMT Daylight Time, > klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk writes: > > > You should ask them why they continually rehash ten-year-old samples > > of an English band, instead of coming up with their own ideas... > > Shouldn't we be happy they're using KLF material, and keeping The KLF > flame (or money :D) burning bright (just as long as they include > information about where the samples come from) Sampling other people's music roughly constitutes the best, _and_ the worst, of the current music industry, in my opinion. At its best, sampling in order to generate new sounds is bringing us music that (beware of pretentiousness) is theoretically infinite in just what it can sound like. It's an incredibly powerful tool for diversity and creativity, and is fantastic. At its worst, its the way that talentless opportunists can piggy-back themselves and their image on somebody else's music, and 98% of the time the result is absolute bollocks, not to mention disrespectful of the original artists, who don't gain any credibility from it. Scooter, and a large number of the tracks submitted for the Kompetition, fall firmly into the latter category. Stuart. -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk The Utah Saints Mailing List http://groups.yahoo.com/group/utahsaints/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "happy consumer!" Subject: RE: (klf) Kompetition- my new votes Date: 08 May 2001 17:22:46 -0700 If there's >ever another Kompetition, I'd suggest a limit of 1 or 2 tracks entered >per person, otherwise it's just going to get ridiculous again (was ODC1 >very bored, or just desperate to win?) ODC1 was neither. if anything, it was just good to have a reason to take the songs and hear them in a new way, and share it. if we ever do have another kompetition, id suggest that it isnt a competition. doing it to be 'number one' and beat out others and rate the music against each other just doesnt seem to make a lot of sense for this list. competing and trying to win is a very capitalist approach to something that is anything but that. the jams wrote a book about having a number 1, shoved it in the face of all the other pop stars, and said themselves that the song ,that was number one before all other pop songs of the moment, was nauseating. they competed against morons and marketing hype, and won. and with that prize, they tossed it away/burnt it. it meant nothing. if we ever do it again, lets do it just to hear new songs, see what ideas come together, whatever. lets not have a music game, just music. this way, there doesnt have to be any rating of who is better than whom. and if someone likes a track, they can just say so. -happyconsumer Visit the world's greatest site at http://www.farts.com and listen to the fart of the day. Also, get your very own farts.com E-mail account. FREE!!!!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "happy consumer!" Subject: Re: (klf) Scooter did it again & again ... Date: 08 May 2001 17:46:05 -0700 On Tue 08 May, Ford Timelord wrote: > Someone should try to interview them (perhaps somebody of klf.de?) and > ask them why they are fans of the klf..... >That's too easy a question. You should ask them why they continually rehash ten-year-old samples of an English band, instead of coming up with their own ideas... that, too, seems like too easy of a question, when it's samples of the KLF. while i dont own any scooter records, and ive only heard fuck the millennium by scooter, and enter the dragon, by i forget who, i do think its cool to carry on the torch of references to the KLF. as time goes on, what they did just becomes obviously classic - no one else in dance/pop music has accepted the consequences of the real art, nor does anyone seem prepared to. respect is being given. plus, the jams encouraged this. no? so maybe scooter doesnt now when too much is too much. you know he's on this list, probably crying about this. poor guy. he probably just wants the klf's and our attention. -happyconsumer Visit the world's greatest site at http://www.farts.com and listen to the fart of the day. Also, get your very own farts.com E-mail account. FREE!!!!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Rockman=20Mike?= Subject: RE: (klf) Kompetition- my new votes Date: 09 May 2001 14:50:11 +0100 (BST) --- happy consumer! wrote: > > > > if we ever do have another kompetition, id suggest > that it isnt a competition. doing it to be 'number > one' and beat out others and rate the music against > each other just doesnt seem to make a lot of sense > for this list. competing and trying to win is a very > capitalist approach to something that is anything > but that. > lets > not have a music game, just music. Hi While I agree with the sentiments, I have all the Komp tracks on mp3 and enjoy listening to most of them, having a vote does give some people motivation to do a track they might otherwise not have done, therefore giving the creative process a bit of a incentive. Although I voted in the komp I certainly do not take the placings seriously. I think it's a good idea to limit the amount of tracks if we have another komp,as I felt a little overwhelmed at the amount of listening and I'm sure I missed some tracks when I voted. Mike ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: neil sampson Subject: (klf) holidays and things... Date: 09 May 2001 15:13:33 +0100 hi there people, i've just come back from a lovely 3 weeks in chile. whilst having breakfast out there, i almost choked on my coffee as the breakfast chat show started, with news interspersed with very dodgy instrumental covers (sounding like a bontempi keyboard) - one of which being 'What Time Is Love?' i can't remember the others, i think they were around the late 80s as well...i doubt that jimi or bill are credited with this or paid royalties - cheeky chileans ! also...thanks to paul for sending me the cds, they arrived a day before i had to leave - so i was kept in suspense (as my laptop had broken) until i returned ! very cool indeed...many thanks again ! plus, has anyone noticed that the new orbital album is out (and is really good, so i've been told) and also includes their cover of the dr who theme tune - which is pretty damn good (as i saw them at the palais last year). and (last point, promise)...with the recent observations of the chill out, 1987 & LTTT5 bootlegs, i can't remember if anyone else has noticed that the space lp is also in hmv oxford street as well at the moment. makes me wonder why the sudden need to produce all these bootlegs at once, who is doing them and what will be next ? i think that's enough for now. cheerio neil MonkeyMania in FullFX http://www.themonkeymen.co.uk ___________________________________________ It's amazing what happens when you breathe. www.breathe.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ford Timelord Subject: RE: (klf) Kompetition- my new votes Date: 09 May 2001 16:46:34 +0200 >having a vote does give some people motivation to do a >track they might otherwise not have done, therefore This was the thing the votes were meant to be, as a motivation and a feedback for the guys who did these tracks and shared them with us all. Furthermore i have to say, that i am ready for a new kompetition or better say "a new season". Anyway the results and all about the kompetition and a new season is NOW available at http://www.klf.exit.de as we had a lot of mails last year as i started the first kompetition and some guys on the list became angry about that (in their opinion) "offtopic" posts, i suggest to post your comments on the kompetition board that is available on the address above. Over and Out! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Rockman=20Mike?= Subject: Re: (klf) holidays and things... Date: 09 May 2001 16:11:35 +0100 (BST) --- neil sampson wrote: > > hi there people, > > i've just come back from a lovely 3 weeks in chile. Did you chill out in chile? Sorry! it just had to be said. Mike ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: neil sampson Subject: Re: (klf) holidays and things... Date: 09 May 2001 16:40:46 +0100 i did indeed ! visited easter island which was totally crazy but very nice. anyways, enough travel tips... about that kompetition... On Wed, 09 May 2001, Rockman Mike wrote: > > > --- neil sampson wrote: > > > hi there people, > > > > i've just come back from a lovely 3 weeks in chile. > > Did you chill out in chile? > > Sorry! it just had to be said. > Mike > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk > or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie MonkeyMania in FullFX http://www.themonkeymen.co.uk ___________________________________________ It's amazing what happens when you breathe. www.breathe.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "happy consumer!" Subject: (klf) re: holidays Date: 09 May 2001 16:26:00 -0700 >chill out, 1987 & LTTT5 bootlegs, makes me wonder why the sudden need to produce all these bootlegs at once... putting out old albums in 2000 & 2001, could be someones way of fucking the millennium! yesterday's music of the future. ha. yeah. off to see ec8or. -happyconsumer Visit the world's greatest site at http://www.farts.com and listen to the fart of the day. Also, get your very own farts.com E-mail account. FREE!!!!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Wouter" Subject: (klf) compacta Date: 10 May 2001 10:14:15 +0200 Hi, as this link does not work at the moment http://jumper.mcc.ac.uk/~ttl/KLF/Misc/compacta.zip, can anyone send me the compacta.zip by email? Wouter # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FordTimelord@webtv.net (Dr. Who) Subject: (klf) LTTT 008r Date: 10 May 2001 10:35:58 -0400 (EDT) Can anyone who has heard both the original LTTT pure trance 5 and the repress tell me the difference between the two? Are they the same or different? And I was checking through one of the klf sites and I saw the picture of E-Train to Trancentral with a 5 on it .....was this the original PT5 or just more mixes? If the PT5 is diff. from the repress what does it sound like? Thanks for help!! Doc # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: vischer@access.ch Subject: (klf) Instore Sampler Date: 11 May 2001 03:13:31 +0200 Hi It's me again.. can someone point me to the right direction? Need infos about the "Instore Sampler"; thanks! Simon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: vischer@access.ch Subject: Re: (klf) Juergen Koppers Date: 11 May 2001 03:29:28 +0200 Hi Torsten As far as I know J.Koppers is a sound engineer and producer but not that kind of famous I guess. He was the engineer of some Laura Branigan-LP's in the middle eighties and did some things with Donna Summer, Claudja Barry and some others and did the end mix of Allison's Album "One". It seems that he's doing mostly electronic/80's/pop-music-things. On a electric music site he's mentioned as an example of the "Munich School" along with Giorgo Moroder and Boney M. (at least this selection made me thinking..) don't know exactly if you can say something like this? But I didn't know he has done a remix for the KLF. cheers.. Simon Torsten Pattberg schrieb: > Has anybody some further information about Juergen Koppers (the WTIL Power > mix remixer). I just found his name on another disc (Donna Summer), is he a > kind of famous remixer? > > -- > Torsten Pattberg # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick King" Subject: RE: (klf) Instore Sampler Date: 12 May 2001 00:10:03 +0100 It's a bootleg - at least the one I saw in Sister Ray had loads of spelling mistakes on the label ("It's Grim Up North (For Love Nor Money Mix)")... Discography (courtesy of www.klf.de): -- The KLF: Strange new? release [19??] bootleg? LP: 19?? ?? (??; KLF001) KLF INSTORE SAMPLER 5:00 All You Need Is Love (original) ["Justified Samples Mix"] 8:38 It's Grim Up North (original) ["For The Love Of Money Mix"] 5:29 Justified And Ancient (stand by the jams - 12" version) ["Tammy Mix"] 6:06 What Time Is Love (wandaful mix) So, okay if you don't have any of the tracks, but definately a bootleg... l8rs, Nick ;-) > Hi > > It's me again.. can someone point me to the right direction? Need infos > about the "Instore Sampler"; thanks! > > Simon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ditch X" Subject: Re: (klf) Instore Sampler Date: 12 May 2001 00:57:00 -0400 Hey guys, just thought I'd put in a few cents... I have had this "Instore Sampler" for around a year now. It came in a plain black die-cut sleeve, and a sticker on one corner saying 'Made in England.' The actual vinyl itself is thin, unlike heavier bootlegs of recent memory, and the edge of the wax is smooth and squared-away, not rounded or pointy. The catalogue # is scribed into the run-out groove, which probably means the party responsible for the recent wave of bootlegs with mechanically imprinted matrix numbers is probably not linked to this release. Also, if you look carefully to the run-out groove, opposite the catalogue number on the other side of the label is a hard to read number. My copy says '117,' leading me to believe this is the 117th copy pressed up. If you have this sampler on your shelves, find out what # it says yours is so we can see how many pressings there may be, given that that is what the number indicates. Furthermore, there aren't any actual misspellings, though they did get the name of a mix wrong. No copyright info is given either. I'd say that this was done in '97, earlier or later, and has remained generally overlooked in light of the boots of Space, 1987, and Chill Out. Clearly, a well-cut compilation with really groovy audio quality, though the painstaking attention to details given in more recent boots leaves much to be desired in this release. It does collect four neat tracks, though, on one 12" record, making this a worthy addition to the completist. Given that I'm in the deep south in America, I was shocked to find this beauty in unplayed, mint condition at my local Disc Exchange for a mere $11. A small price to pay for a quality piece of manufacturing! Of course, I could be wrong... -Ditch X # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brendan" Subject: Re: (klf) God save the KLF mailinglist.....or is it just a boring place!?! Date: 07 May 2001 15:54:28 +1000 hi all, ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 9:40 PM place!?! my very late 2cents worth. > I can remember when i joined the list last year there were ten up to twenty > mails a day...Hot discussions, some guys wanted to start different projects... there were enough when i joined to make it to dificult to read them at work. i had to swap to the digest version, print them, and read them on the way home. > And what is it now today? > It's a lucky day when there are five mails a day... well i just picked up about 400 messages. i've been offline totally for about 6 weeks hence the rash of posts from me today. these are all being composed offline in the hope that if i can get this machine to connect again i will have at least contributed to the list in some way. > hey, there are so many members out there, why cant they discuss and change > their opinions about the things that we are talking here? when i was at work i wasnt able to post often because i was too busy to reply from work, and when the pc at home doesnt work all the time and the gf prefers it when i pay attention to her, it gets difficult to reply from there as well. things just got put off till the weekend in the hope of some extra time, and i'm sure you can guess from there. > Or are you just out there, reading the mails, leeching the infos and don't > want to share them with us? unfortunetly mostly yes. i answer what i can, and help where i can, and i offer my collections of klf related digital things to anyone (online and offline) who wants them (if i'm able to assist anyway). i try to work on a karma thing and figure if i cant help the list, at least help another klf fan. its actually worked to my benifit in that i've met a few ppl who not only know who the klf are, but can remember songs other than "J+A with tammy". but mostly, i rarely post because i dont have much to say that hasnt already been reported. australia's often behind on the news side of things anyway. typically if there is new news, its going to come from someone in the uk. > Is it time to say OVER AND OUT for the list? i hope not. a slow list is better than no list. > It seems that the list consists only from 10 or 15 people that are regular > posting threads...and the others? I think there > are more the only 15 people on this or am I completely wrong? i know of a few ppl who should still be on the list but i havent seen posts from them lately. i'm sure there's more than 15. > Just a few things i had to say.... fair enough. i'm on a few lists with much less traffic than this but when they're needed, they work just fine. i dont think its essential that a list have heaps of traffic just to justify its existence. its a bit unfair of me replying like this to a topic so old already (and thoroughly discussed if the headers above are any guide). i started reading and replying to the 400 last night. i've got another 200 or so to go through. but i thought i should comment, even if the end result is to only show there is 1 more person on the list. if anyone wishes to reply, please cc a copy via email. i'll reply as soon as i'm able, which hopefully wont be another 6 weeks :-) best wishes brendan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brendan" Subject: (klf) CD's spotted in Melb recently. Date: 07 May 2001 12:02:45 +1000 Hi all, i'm writing this on 7th of May, on a currently offline, rarely connecting, computer so by the time it gets to the list it may be out of date. sorry. the prices listed i've tried to remember so they may be not be 100% correct. Location: HMV, Bourke St Mall, Melbourne. Found: about 5 copies of the cd single for DTardis. Labeled "Import" and about AU$15. I think these would be the correct details from lazlo's discog. CD5: 1991 US (TVT Records TVT 4025-2) [Jul 91] 3:34 Doctorin' The Tardis 8:11 Doctorin' The Tardis (12" mix) 7:06 What Time Is Love? (original) 3:26 Gary In The Tardis [mislabeled "Gary Joins The JAMS"] 4:28 Doctorin' The Tardis (instrumental) [minimal] Chillout CD. 1 copy. AU$42. looks like the "multitrack" version. no sticker. WhiteRoom CD with bonus J+A cd single. AU$42 Location: Central Spin? um...the 2nd hand cd store near gaslight records, also on burke st in melbourne. Found: J+A CD single.$10. at a guess these are the details. CD5: 1992 US (Arista; 12403-2) [21 Jan 92] 3:40 Justified and Ancient (stand by the jams) 5:31 Justified and Ancient (stand by the jams - 12" version) 5:04 Justified and Ancient ("the white room" version) 7:45 Justified and Ancient (all bound for mu mu land) 6:31 Justified and Ancient (let them eat ice cream) hope this helps someone. for the non australians, i'm sure there would be a web site. try hmv.com.au :-) cheers brendan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brendan" Subject: Re: (klf) experiences\vivid memories Date: 11 May 2001 00:07:21 +1000 Howdy, >Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 12:37 AM sorry for late reply. > >When I travelled the world a few years ago the most played > >tape I had was ChillOut with Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld > >on the flip side..... > > Fascinating story! By sheer coincidence, I have a tape with precisely the > same LPs on....I dont suppose that is such a coincidence after all. just to be different, i didnt have ABTU on the flipside, i had chillout on both sides. years ago when i was a young lad, i was living in a pub above the nightclub. everyone there tended to sleep daytimes because we worked in the bars/clubs most nights of the week. i trained myself to go to sleep by getting a tapedeck that autoreversed, and simply playing chillout over and over all day until i learnt to fall asleep quickly. 10 years later and i still play it most nights to help me get to sleep. i had tried ABTU to sleep with but it never worked as well as chillout. best wishes brendan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brendan" Subject: Re: (klf) Interesting item on eBay web site item#1422476785: THE KLF Stadium House VHS OOP Cool Tape L@@K! Date: 07 May 2001 15:28:45 +1000 Howdy, same warning as the other msgs from me today :-) >Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 3:27 AM sorry for the late reply too > I saw this item for sale at eBay, surprised no ones gone for it? >> Title of item: THE KLF Stadium House VHS OOP Cool Tape L@@K! >> Price: Starts at $6.99 i saw this at the "cd/book sale @ jeff's shed" over the easter weekend for AU$10. it turns up reasonably regularly in the $2 & $5 shops that populate the shopping centers in the suburbs of eastern melbourne. its typically the complete version with the "this is not" doco after the 3 songs. cheers brendan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brendan" Subject: (klf) recent purchase: drummond - the manager. Date: 11 May 2001 00:05:03 +1000 Hello again, i picked up this recently for AU$16. i haven't managed to listen properly to the track yet. its spoken word and i wanted to listen to it when i had time to concentrate. i had a quick listen through all the other tracks and to be honest, i'm questioning the $16. i really hate buying a cd for 1 track. [The Manager] [on Various: American Pensioners On Ecstasy] LP: 1991 UK (Creation Records; CRELP095) 10:09 The Manager (soundtrack to the bill butt video) cheers brendan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Simon Coward" Subject: RE: (klf) Instore Sampler Date: 12 May 2001 17:49:22 +0100 > My copy says '117,' So does mine. Simon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Milestighe@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Instore Sampler Date: 12 May 2001 13:12:05 EDT If a record is limited edition, it would not have the individual number stamped on the vinyl. I.e if this is no.40 of 100 pressed, it would not have '40' stamped in the vinyl. The 117 must be a cat no, or mastering reference number. And by the way, PURE TRANCE 3 has not yet entered the building..!! Await further instructions....! at least that's what the seller has said..... :-( Miles # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: (klf) [OT] Douglas Adams Date: 12 May 2001 18:28:48 EDT Sorry this is off topic for the mailing list, but when something this big happens I just think everyone should find out. The creator of The Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy, and Starship Titanic, has died at the age of 49. He died of a heart attack. Douglas Adams - Rest In Peace. see http://www.douglasadams.com to leave a tribute. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anders Hultman Subject: Re: (klf) [OT] Douglas Adams Date: 13 May 2001 00:36:23 +0200 (MET DST) On Sat, 12 May 2001 Darrenforster99@aol.com wrote: > The creator of The Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy, and Starship Titanic, has > died at the age of 49. He died of a heart attack. Me and him in 1992: http://anders.hultman.nu/douglasadams.jpeg # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuart Bruce Subject: Re: (klf) [OT] Douglas Adams Date: 12 May 2001 23:44:17 +0100 (BST) On Sat 12 May, Darrenforster99@aol.com wrote: > The creator of The Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy, and Starship > Titanic, has died at the age of 49. He died of a heart attack. Douglas Adams was a visionary, nothing less. He once rang me at my house because I was involved in editing a magazine for his official appreciation society; I remember bragging about it for the rest of the month and beyond until people were sick of hearing about it. This is exactly the opposite feeling... It's a great loss. Stuart. -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) [OT] Douglas Adams Date: 12 May 2001 20:09:29 EDT > The creator of The Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy, and Starship Titanic, has > died at the age of 49. He died of a heart attack. I saw this on CNN this afternoon. I was compeltely shocked. I love his works. -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: vischer@access.ch Subject: (klf) Thanks! Date: 13 May 2001 03:13:43 +0200 Thanks for the infos about Instore Sampler! cheers.. Simon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Instore Sampler Date: 13 May 2001 02:17:31 EDT > It's a bootleg - at least the one I saw in Sister Ray had loads of spelling > mistakes on the label ("It's Grim Up North (For Love Nor Money Mix)")... ....and clearly taken from Ultra Rare Trax. -paul Currently in rotation: Kraftwerk - Der Robotmix; Pet Shop Boys - various; Wonderlick - Rough Mixes www.sayhername.com -- Too Much Joy Official Website Tell your friends. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: c-Row Subject: (klf) HMV Back Order. [#680393] Date: 14 May 2001 08:24:01 +0200 Hi, received the following mail this morning... ---------- Unfortunately the items below are still outstanding with our suppliers. The items are: KLF LAST TRAIN LP We are staying in contact with the supplier and once we receive the items in our fulfilment centre we will ship the items to you immediately. We will continue to try to obtain the items for you but if you wish to cancel your order, you may do so through the website via your order status screens. ---------- Whatever it is, seems like it was printed in very limited numbers. Anyone else tried to order this ? cy@ c-Row # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: (klf) FW: Can someone please bring this to the attention of Mr. Cauty Date: 14 May 2001 09:50:25 -0500 [Don Gagen] I sent Crapola an e-mail about the Wanda Dee and the KLF. Here's what they had to say. Hi Don, --- cut --- I'm not sure if he even troubles himself with this sort of crap anymore, but Wanda Dee is claiming to be performing live with the KLF. I guess it's the only way she can keep herself afloat. --- cut --- MANY thanks for the tip! Mr Cauty's suits are area of this situation but we appreciated your notification and steps will be taken... sigh... Cheers, CRAPOLA krew # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rob Myers" Subject: (klf) Bill Drummond is The Shit Date: 14 May 2001 17:07:02 Bill Drummond's "45" made the list of Stuff That Doesn't Actively Suck at suck.com...... http://www.suck.com/fish/2001/05/14/ (scroll down to the middle of the page, it's the green box on the right) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ford Timelord Subject: (klf) Kompetition Second Season Date: 14 May 2001 19:28:55 +0200 Hi to all, just to inform you: The second season of The KLF Remix Kompetiton has started. First track once again from c-row.... URL is: www.klf.exit.de There's a little shopping section on my site, where i sell some KLF rarities.... (KLF vs ENT, KLF005S(radio freedom edit rare promo x500 with a sticker from Scott Piering), D2001 (rare 7" whitelabel x500 with 7"edit [silent groove]) Over and Out! Ford # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: Re: (klf) Instore Sampler Date: 14 May 2001 17:30:44 Also, if >you look carefully to the run-out groove, opposite the catalogue number on >the other side of the label is a hard to read number. My copy says '117,' >leading me to believe this is the 117th copy pressed up. You mena this "117" is in the actual run out area? If so then they would all say "117". That sort of thing is stamped into all pressings, just like the grooves themselves. It's hand written of course, but it's hand written into the die, not the end product. Chad Gombosi Member SCP www.scponline.net Chad's Game Music Page www.chadsgamemusic.com MP3.com page: www.mp3.com/signofzeta "Let me explain a couple of things. Time is short. That's the first thing. For the weasel, Time is a weasel. For the hero, Time is heroic. For the whore, Time is just another trick. If you're gentle, your Time is gentle. If you're in a hurry, Time flies. Time is a servant, if you are its master. Time is your god, if you are its dog. We are the creators of Time, the victims of Time, and the killers of Time. Time is timeless. That's the second thing. You are the clock, Cassiel." Emit - Far Away So Close _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "maarten bouwes" Subject: (klf) How many 004X are out there? Date: 14 May 2001 17:50:53 -0000 Hello List, Just wondering: How many different KLF004X variations are out there? I just bought a w/l copy with a sticker saying ´what time is love; live @ trancentral; The KLF Also i have got a copy which is handwritten in red. Have you got a copy like this? I would like to know! Cheers, Maarten _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "c-Row" Subject: Re: (klf) How many 004X are out there? Date: 14 May 2001 21:00:46 +0200 > Also i have got a copy which is handwritten in red. > Have you got a copy like this? I would like to know! Mine is handwritten red, too. cy@ c-Row # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "maarten bouwes" Subject: Re: (klf) How many different 004X are out there? Date: 14 May 2001 19:21:57 -0000 Hello again :) Forgot to ask this: What does your copy say? Hello List, Just wondering: How many different KLF004X variations are out there? I just bought a w/l copy with a sticker saying ´what time is love; live @ trancentral; The KLF Also i have got a copy which is handwritten in red. What does it say on -your- copy? Have you got a copy like this? I would like to know! Cheers, Maarten _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ford Timelord Subject: Re: (klf) How many 004X are out there? Date: 14 May 2001 21:33:35 +0200 I also had one handwritten and one stickered like other promos (e.g. KLF005X promo or KLF008X promo) I think the handwritten are the so called "whitelabels" and the stickered the so called "promos"....!?! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: laerm Subject: (klf) jimi and stewart home Date: 14 May 2001 19:00:20 -0400 (EDT) http://www.akuk.com, search titles for "cyber-sadism live". (sorry, no direct link available) micah stupak /"\ laerm@soulfood.org ascii ribbon campaign \ / international bright young kook against HTML email X / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: (klf) Black Star Liner Date: 15 May 2001 03:48:41 EDT For those taking notes, I finally picked up the US version of BSLs Yemen Cutta Connection and it does include a track labeled KLF Remix and states it was recorded in an armoured car. The track is over distorted and bassy, perfect for the AAAs broadcast methods, and includes a sample of the, erm, word "KLF". Replayability factor = 1. Doesn't do anything for me. The wife stated that it was "a particularly bad track." But she subjects me to David Essex so take that as you will. :) I'll give it another couple listens but it will probably go on the shelf alongside FTM. -paul Currently in rotation: Wonderlick - Rough Mixes; various mp3s www.sayhername.com -- Too Much Joy Official Website Tell your friends. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "RMStringer" Subject: (klf) Austin Texas.... :-} Date: 15 May 2001 09:40:55 -0500 Is there any Orb or KLF Fans that live in the Austin San Marcus region? If so, contact me personally because I am moving to Austin at the end of this month. Over and Out. RMStringer # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?The=20KLF?= Subject: (klf) bloody! Date: 16 May 2001 15:20:54 +0100 (BST) the world is a bloody blur of ass wiping fools. Drew ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ford Timelord Subject: (klf) Breakbeat record with KLF samples Date: 16 May 2001 21:36:46 +0200 Hi, does anybody know this record: Ibiza Recs : 007 [?] Unknown But Contains Hard KLF Samples 1992 Ibiza 007 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ChillOut Subject: Re: (klf) How many 004X are out there? Date: 16 May 2001 17:04:55 -0400 don't think this has been mentioned yet but ... there is a fully made up version of this (ie sleeve and labels as the comercial release) however the bside is the wandaful mix rather than the techno gat= e mix very rare # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rob Myers" Subject: Re: (klf) Breakbeat record with KLF samples Date: 17 May 2001 12:14:10 from http://www.vinylcatalogue.co.uk/ibiza.htm IBIZA 007 - Noise Factory - Foward Sound? Noise Factory also did the classic hardcore breakbeat track "Can You Feel the Rush"... This link has some more info on Noise Factory: http://freespace.virgin.net/maxx.vinyl/nf.htm _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David A" Subject: (klf) Atomic Kitten sample the KLF, too? Date: 18 May 2001 06:19:58 +0200 Hi, Seems like it ---> Atomic Kitten - I Want Your Love, Contains: reminding LTTT riff and 'Bring The Beat Back!' Ricardo sample. Regards, David A. *now playin' : Grid - Evolver* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Atomic Kitten sample the KLF, too? Date: 18 May 2001 00:27:06 EDT > Seems like it ---> Atomic Kitten - I Want Your Love, Contains: > reminding LTTT riff and 'Bring The Beat Back!' Ricardo sample. While it sounds like LTTT, the riff is actually The Big Country by the City of Prague Philharmonic (as stated in the credits). And I "think" the Bring the Beat Back was actually sampled by the KLF off something else, but I don't keep on that so I could be wrong. -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dan Kuta" Subject: Re: (klf) Atomic Kitten sample the KLF, too? Date: 18 May 2001 08:29:00 +0200 > > Seems like it ---> Atomic Kitten - I Want Your Love, Contains: > > reminding LTTT riff and 'Bring The Beat Back!' Ricardo sample. > > While it sounds like LTTT, the riff is actually The Big Country by the City > of Prague Philharmonic (as stated in the credits). And I "think" the Bring > the Beat Back was actually sampled by the KLF off something else, but I don't > keep on that so I could be wrong. "Bring the beat back!" wasn't sampled as it was Ricardo... Dan --- DJ Kuta, KLF Online (www.klf.de) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stuart.bruce@aardman.com (Stuart Bruce) Subject: Re(2): (klf) Atomic Kitten sample the KLF, too? Date: 18 May 2001 08:13:35 +0100 The credits for "I Want Your Love" credit Drummond/Cauty in the writing credits, because they came up with the inspired four words "bring the beat back!" that therefore earns them a chunk of the royalties of the Atomic Kitten song. Andy McKluskey from OMD is also in the writing credits, because the wrote the rest of the words and melody. OMD have used a couple of KLF samples on their previous tracks (or samples taken from the same place as the KLF found them, at least). The Big Country track is the same track that was sampled in 808 State's 1990 track "The Only Rhyme That Bites". For all their lack of dance credibility, Atomic Kitten actually had some pretty strong dance-pop influences- until they went and did "Whole Again", etc. etc. Down the credibility dumper they go. Stuart. djkuta@klf.de writes: > >> > Seems like it ---> Atomic Kitten - I Want Your Love, Contains: >> > reminding LTTT riff and 'Bring The Beat Back!' Ricardo sample. >> >> While it sounds like LTTT, the riff is actually The Big Country by the >City >> of Prague Philharmonic (as stated in the credits). And I "think" the >Bring >> the Beat Back was actually sampled by the KLF off something else, but I >don't >> keep on that so I could be wrong. > >"Bring the beat back!" wasn't sampled as it was Ricardo... -- Stuart Bruce stuart.bruce@aardman.com tel ext 4269 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "maarten bouwes" Subject: (klf) One sided 1987?? Date: 18 May 2001 14:53:48 -0000 I just came across this item on ebay: Pre- KLF JAMMS 1987 debut banned one sided white label What The Fuck Is Going On? Press copy. Perfect condition. All the original and illegal Beatles, Abba, MC5 samples intact. Never played. If you've never heard this it's amazing. Caused havoc when released. Only 200 pressed up. Genuine rarity. Just wondering if this one has ever been seen by one of you. Cheers, Maarten _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re(2): (klf) Atomic Kitten sample the KLF, too? Date: 18 May 2001 10:56:32 EDT > The credits for "I Want Your Love" credit Drummond/Cauty in the writing > credits, because they came up with the inspired four words "bring the beat > back!" that therefore earns them a chunk of the royalties of the Atomic Do they? Just took a look again and realized the Bring the Beat Back isn't on the album version and B/J aren't credited. -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stuart.bruce@aardman.com (Stuart Bruce) Subject: Fwd: Re(3): (klf) Atomic Kitten sample the KLF, too? Date: 18 May 2001 16:11:27 +0100 TheMgnt@aol.com writes: > >> The credits for "I Want Your Love" credit Drummond/Cauty in the writing >> credits, because they came up with the inspired four words "bring the >beat >> back!" that therefore earns them a chunk of the royalties of the Atomic > >Do they? Just took a look again and realized the Bring the Beat Back >isn't >on the album version and B/J aren't credited. I must confess my musical shame... I didn't buy the album... but I did buy the single, and the sample and the writing credits are there as I said. Stuart. -- Stuart Bruce stuart.bruce@aardman.com tel ext 4269 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Derek Knight" Subject: RE: Re(3): (klf) Atomic Kitten sample the KLF, too? Date: 18 May 2001 16:42:40 +0100 > TheMgnt@aol.com writes: > > > >> The credits for "I Want Your Love" credit Drummond/Cauty in the writing > >> credits, because they came up with the inspired four words "bring the beat > >> back!" that therefore earns them a chunk of the royalties of the Atomic > > > >Do they? Just took a look again and realized the Bring the Beat Back isn't > >on the album version and B/J aren't credited. > > I must confess my musical shame... I didn't buy the album... but I did buy > the single, and the sample and the writing credits are there as I said. Yep, it's definitely credited on the single version. Atomic Kitten have a habit of releasing really quite different versions as singles. Whole Again is hugely different to the album version. I expect this is to try and convince the kids to buy the singles even if they already own the album. As bizarre as this might sound, I might well be interviewing Atomic Kitten at some point in the coming months. Sadly, i doubt they'd have a clue what I was going on about if I were to ask them about the samples! Del Derek Knight djnite@klf-communications.com http://www.djnite.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuart Bruce Subject: RE: Re(3): (klf) Atomic Kitten sample the KLF, too? Date: 18 May 2001 17:47:51 +0100 (BST) On Fri 18 May, Derek Knight wrote: > Yep, it's definitely credited on the single version. Atomic Kitten > have a habit of releasing really quite different versions as singles. > Whole Again is hugely different to the album version. I expect this is > to try and convince the kids to buy the singles even if they already > own the album. Well, that's not an uncommon thing to do, after all. The first three singles were released before the album, so in fact it probably worked the other way around, as an incentive to buy the album for a version that wasn't on the single. And at least they've gone to the effort of making different versions; don't know about anybody else, but I always prefer it when the album version of a track is at least a bit different from the single version, for variety and interest's sake. > As bizarre as this might sound, I might well be interviewing Atomic > Kitten at some point in the coming months. Sadly, i doubt they'd have > a clue what I was going on about if I were to ask them about the > samples! That's not necessarily a reason not to ask them. You could ask them whether they've been musically influenced by artists like the KLF and 808 State... if they seem clueless, forget it. Might be subtler than mentioning the sampling first, which can get the musician off on the wrong foot and think that you're accusing them of something. Stuart. -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk The Utah Saints Mailing List http://groups.yahoo.com/group/utahsaints/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Atomic Kitten sample the KLF, too? Date: 18 May 2001 18:14:25 EDT In a message dated 18/05/01 05:30:02 GMT Daylight Time, TheMgnt@aol.com writes: > Bring > the Beat Back was actually sampled by the KLF Wasn't "Bring the beat back" sampled from Wanda Dee's, Bad to the Bone? - maybe Wanda will start calling herself "The NEW Atomic Kitten" and stop using KLF. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: Re: Re(2): (klf) Atomic Kitten sample the KLF, too? Date: 18 May 2001 18:19:13 EDT In a message dated 18/05/01 08:15:50 GMT Daylight Time, stuart.bruce@aardman.com writes: > For all their lack of dance credibility, Atomic Kitten actually had some > pretty strong dance-pop influences Slightly off topic, my sister knew the one that's recently left Atomic Kitten (the one from Warrington), and she was an absolute bitch. She used to go to Padgate High and Woolston (the one my sister went) is the rival High School to Padgate, one day she came down to Woolston on a dinner break and beat up a dinner lady. I think that dinner lady want's her to leave the beat where it is :) Your computer can help Cancer Research - see http://www.ud.com THINK project. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: Re: Re(3): (klf) Atomic Kitten sample the KLF, too? Date: 18 May 2001 18:28:49 EDT In a message dated 18/05/01 18:04:13 GMT Daylight Time, klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk writes: > Well, that's not an uncommon thing to do, after all. 2 Unlimited did that to all their songs except "Get Ready For This" at least it's not as bad as Destiny's Child (they've released 3 versions of the same album, version 1 :- without Charlies Angels (Independent Woman Pt 1) or Survivor (Independent Woman Pt 2), version 2 includes Charlies Angels, and version 3 includes Charlies Angels and Survivor - my sister was really annoyed 'cos she bought version 1 so she went and d/l the other two songs from Napster) > And at least they've gone to the effort of > making different versions; don't know about anybody else, but I always > prefer it when the album version of a track is at least a bit different > from the single version, for variety and interest's sake. You obviously never heard 2 Unlimiteds difference then, the album version had no verse, the singles had verses (No-no, no-no, no-no there's no LYRICS!), the album was more dub version than anything else }:-( # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: Re: Re(2): (klf) Atomic Kitten sample the KLF, too? Date: 18 May 2001 18:19:13 EDT In a message dated 18/05/01 08:15:50 GMT Daylight Time, stuart.bruce@aardman.com writes: > For all their lack of dance credibility, Atomic Kitten actually had some > pretty strong dance-pop influences Slightly off topic, my sister knew the one that's recently left Atomic Kitten (the one from Warrington), and she was an absolute bitch. She used to go to Padgate High and Woolston (the one my sister went) is the rival High School to Padgate, one day she came down to Woolston on a dinner break and beat up a dinner lady. I think that dinner lady want's her to leave the beat where it is :) Your computer can help Cancer Research - see http://www.ud.com THINK project. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Atomic Kitten sample the KLF, too? Date: 18 May 2001 18:14:25 EDT In a message dated 18/05/01 05:30:02 GMT Daylight Time, TheMgnt@aol.com writes: > Bring > the Beat Back was actually sampled by the KLF Wasn't "Bring the beat back" sampled from Wanda Dee's, Bad to the Bone? - maybe Wanda will start calling herself "The NEW Atomic Kitten" and stop using KLF. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuart Bruce Subject: Re: Re(3): (klf) Atomic Kitten sample the KLF, too? Date: 19 May 2001 08:37:03 +0100 (BST) On Fri 18 May, Darrenforster99@aol.com wrote: > You obviously never heard 2 Unlimiteds difference then, the album > version had no verse, the singles had verses (No-no, no-no, no-no > there's no LYRICS!), the album was more dub version than anything > else }:-( You see, I don't mind that at all. I buy a lot of singles, and having variety on the album is good, if it's in the context of the album; if a dub one sounds better than the single version, then fine. Stuart. -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk The Utah Saints Mailing List http://groups.yahoo.com/group/utahsaints/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuart Bruce Subject: Re: (klf) Atomic Kitten sample the KLF, too? Date: 19 May 2001 08:35:29 +0100 (BST) On Fri 18 May, Darrenforster99@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 18/05/01 05:30:02 GMT Daylight Time, > TheMgnt@aol.com writes: > > > Bring > > the Beat Back was actually sampled by the KLF > > Wasn't "Bring the beat back" sampled from Wanda Dee's, Bad to the > Bone? - maybe Wanda will start calling herself "The NEW Atomic > Kitten" and stop using KLF. For the final time before people get sick of it, "Bring The Beat Back" is not a sample- it's Ricardo Lyte as recorded for the Stand By The JAMs version of "Justified & Ancient". That's why Cauty/Drummond/Lyte get a writing credit on the single. And Atomic Kitten may not be the most attractive strawberries in the pop bunch, but I don't think Wanda Dee could stretch people's imagination as far as to impersonate them... Stuart. -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk The Utah Saints Mailing List http://groups.yahoo.com/group/utahsaints/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ulrik Brandt" Subject: (klf) zoo uncaged Date: 19 May 2001 14:19:28 +0200 Hi Just found the "the zoo uncaged 1978-1982"-cd. A tracklist can be found at: http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000001LIF/o/qid=990088490/sr=8-2/ 202-6178703-1123055 the involved artists are not shwn at the list, but here they are: 1,2,17,18,19: Big in Japan 3,4: Those Nauhty Lumps 5,6,13,14: The Teardrop Explodes 7: Echo and the Bunnymen 9,10: Lori and the Chameleons 11,12: Expelaires 15,16: The Wild Swans release notes:Griffin Music Inc: Various Artists "the zoo" uncaged 1978-1982 GCD-464-2 (c) 1995 Griffin Music Inc Drummond writes the covernotes, and is involved in the production of 3,4,5,6,7,9,10,18. (written august 1990, and mentiond pyramids of ice etc, funny stuff) Ulrik Salsa Claus is Coming to Town # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Milestighe@aol.com Subject: (klf) PURE TRANCE 3 HAS ARRIVED!! Date: 19 May 2001 08:33:44 EDT Mr Postie delivered the much anticipated pure trance 3. I have listened to it, very nice, I don't have the mixes that it is rumoured to contain, so have nothing to compare them to, but I can describe whats on it; Logo side, instrumental of WTIL with a sound effect of the DR Who Tardis Materializing (you know the sound!) Write side, A new track, I didn't know, but is heavily influenced by foreign instruments, Chinese style piano riffs, and a Hindi sounding instrument (snake charmer style) Hmmm, it's certainly interesting. What do you think? Miles # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "c-Row" Subject: Re: (klf) PURE TRANCE 3 HAS ARRIVED!! Date: 19 May 2001 16:20:59 +0200 > Logo side, instrumental of WTIL with a sound effect of the DR Who Tardis > Materializing (you know the sound!) > > Write side, A new track, I didn't know, but is heavily influenced by foreign > instruments, Chinese style piano riffs, and a Hindi sounding instrument > (snake charmer style) > > Hmmm, it's certainly interesting. What do you think? Sounds alot like the version that is known but which never appeared on 12" anywhere. Can´t say more without listening to it myself... Does it at least sound like REAL ? (very good sound quality) cy@ c-Row # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) PURE TRANCE 3 HAS ARRIVED!! Date: 19 May 2001 18:53:35 EDT > Logo side, instrumental of WTIL with a sound effect of the DR Who Tardis > Materializing (you know the sound!) > > Write side, A new track, I didn't know, but is heavily influenced by foreign > instruments, Chinese style piano riffs, and a Hindi sounding instrument > (snake charmer style) Sounds like the Love Trance mp3 backed with the Monster Attack mix of WTIL... -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brendan" Subject: (klf) Cyber Sadism Live (Was: jimi and stewart home) Date: 20 May 2001 17:30:21 +1000 Howdy, >Subject: (klf) jimi and stewart home > > http://www.akuk.com, search titles for "cyber-sadism live". i saw this in polyester books in melbourne for $20au (something like that). if anyone wants more detail email me. its not far from my house i can confirm the price easily. cheers brendan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brendan" Subject: (klf) Inpress Magazine #661 - From the Vault & [OT] Movie music Date: 20 May 2001 18:58:58 +1000 hi all, the text below appeared in one of the local free music papers recently. there was also a picture of #149's cover which featured The KLF. it looks like one of the standard shots with the raincoats and guitars that shoot sparks. if anyones curious i can send a similar image or you can wait till i scan it. --------------- From the Vault Issue 149, Wednesday 15th May 1991 An exclusive interview with UK pop terrorists The KLF conducted by street press veteran and all round nice guy Andrew Mast was the lead story in 'Inpress' this week ten years ago (not long after, Mast set street press tounges wagging by defecting to 'Beat', creating rifts that have only recently been smoothed over[1]). Bill Drummond, one half of the duo, who would go on to burn one million pounds and write 'The Manual', a book describuing how to go about writing a number one song (they offered to refund anyone who didn't have the desired chart success after reading the book), told Mast that "it was exciting in 1986, i just wanted to dump the entire history of rock, pop and soul. I still liked James Brown, The Beatles and The Pistols, but we wanted to forget them." --------------- movie music: i happened to see 'the replacements' recently and rock n roll part 2 is used a few times. doesnt sound like the original but it was credited to gary glitter so maybe. a day or so later, 'happy gilmor' was on tv and its in that too. anyone have any idea how many films have used that song? i know i've heard it in others but cant think of any offhand. cheers brendan [1] 'Beat' and 'Inpress' are two of the local free music papers. there's more but i dont know the names of them all. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Hauner Subject: (klf) OT: Shops in Bristol Date: 21 May 2001 09:40:21 +0200 (CEST) Hi, does anybody know about good shop with used CDs in Bristol (UK)? -- Adam Hauner -=[ AHA ]=[ aha@pinknet.cz ]=[ Koukni na http://www.postcard.cz/ ]=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darren Millburn Subject: (klf) KLF/ENT stuff Date: 21 May 2001 10:03:00 +0100 Hi, Just noticed the message below on alt.punk.uk, and thought it might be of interest. Darren ----- I am Mark, I played bass in ENT from just before 2nd Peel session until part way through recording Retrobution. The ENT/KLF stuff that you can find on Napster is taken from a rough mix that we took away from the studio at the end of the first session. There were only 5 copies of the tape (1 for each band member), some of these may have been copied for friends etc but neither I nor Pete (Guitar) know how the tracks made it into the public domain. (I am no longer in contact with any of the other old ENT members) Some of the tracks on Napster have the wrong titles attached (although all the Napster titles were actual tracks) 3 tracks were totally completed 3AM which was recorded somewhat earlier and 2 slow tracks called one of which was called Terminator 10, the other title I can't remember. The unfinished tracks are just Drums (Stick) Guitar (Pete) and Bass (Mark). My copy of the original tape is buried somewhere in my loft with loads of other stuff and I keep saying that one day I will hunt it out and get the correct track listings....but I've not got round to it yet!!! ----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ulrik Brandt" Subject: (klf) Bring that beat Back-sample Date: 21 May 2001 15:27:50 +0200 Hi Bring that beat Back is sampled from Public Enemys: It Takes A Nation of a Million to hold Us Back -album (I cant remember which track right now). BRW: If you don't owe this album: Get it, it's brilliant!!! Ulrik Salsa Claus is Coming to Town # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: twenty three Subject: (klf) New member Date: 21 May 2001 07:32:28 -0700 (PDT) > New members are encouraged to introduce themselves. (So will I proceed) Hello list, back in the year of our lord when The KLF came up I really didn't know how to handle that music - but I was mesmerized, hypnotized and engaged. The same feelings come to me still in 2001 - even the KLF has left..., well you know, what I mean -, still today I don't know what they were or are about. But I am faithful this mailing list will dig up missing pieces of the whole picture some time - and I like to be a part of it. And - now judge me merciful! - some 7 or 8 years ago I accidently trashed a KLF LP. "Sh*t happens" doesn't cover this bloody act... However, I live in Germany, love The KLF (and their incarnations), some of this 23 spooky matters and my best memories of last years eve was "F*ck The Millennium". Mu. Bernd C. Meier y23y@yahoo.com ===== y23y appears courtesy of y23y Enterprises y23y Enterprises appears courtesy of y23y __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuart Bruce Subject: Re: (klf) Bring that beat Back-sample Date: 21 May 2001 17:42:33 +0100 (BST) On Mon 21 May, Ulrik Brandt wrote: > > Hi Bring that beat Back is sampled from Public Enemys: It Takes A > Nation of a Million to hold Us Back -album (I cant remember which > track right now). BRW: If you don't owe this album: Get it, it's > brilliant!!! Right; replying to this for a third time! Although the Public Enemy album does contain the line "bring THAT beat back", which is a line that has been sampled several times (including, I think, in "Pump In The Volume" by M/A/R/R/S, and if not, several other bigbeat records), the KLF line is "bring THE beat back", and is, as far as I'm concerned, performed by Ricardo Lyte having been written as part of "Justified & Ancient" by Drummond/Cauty. Although Public Enemy are a very sampled band (JC, Public Domain, that "Bass! How low can you go?" track and many others), I don't think this is a Public Enemy sample. The sample in the Atomic Kitten single is a KLF sample, and is *not* a Public Enemy sample. At least, that's what I've thought was true. Am I wrong? Stuart. -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk The Utah Saints Mailing List http://groups.yahoo.com/group/utahsaints/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Milestighe@aol.com Subject: (klf) COPIES OF PURE TRANCE 3 Date: 21 May 2001 15:05:23 EDT Now that the record is here, I am willing to make cdr copies to anyone who wants one. Please let me know who wants a copy asap, and i'll sort out a list, also state whether you want LOVE TRANCE, WTIL remix or both. The copy will cost but a nominal amount, I am sorry but I cannot really do free copies, I hope you can 8understand why. If this causes friction, i'd like to know. You may already have this on MP3 format, but having heard the MP3, the clarity is pretty poor. Thanks, Miles # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Milestighe@aol.com Subject: (klf) white label WTfuck? on ebay Date: 21 May 2001 15:18:18 EDT Had an email from the seller, turns out this record is actually JAMS23, all you need is love test press. A good item, but sadly not as advertised!!! Miles # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Bring that beat Back-sample Date: 21 May 2001 17:38:41 EDT > The sample in the Atomic Kitten single is a KLF sample, and is *not* a > Public Enemy sample. > > At least, that's what I've thought was true. Am I wrong? Since Drummond and Cauty are credited on the single mix, which contains this sample, I would say for definate that it's a KLF sample. The strings bit is definately not from LTTT. -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reed Hedges Subject: (klf) what is the white room? Date: 21 May 2001 18:23:45 -0400 I was browsing the web site of the Future Sound of London http://the-raft.com/fsol/lev4/page4.html And noticed in a list of books the following: the white room --- d.m thomas A subsequent web search turned up no book of that title by that author, only "The White Hotel". I also found something called the white room invovled in the lauch of the NASA Space Shuttle, which seems to be the cabin on the launch tower from which the astronauts enter the shuttle prior to launch (I guess it's white). "The Orbiter Access Arm (OAA) swings out to the orbiter crew hatch allowing access to the orbiter crew area. At the end of the arm is the environmentally-controlled chamber called the "White Room" which abuts against the orbiter hatch. It can hold up to six people. It is here that the astronaut flight crew is assisted in entering the orbiter." http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/technology/sts-newsref/stsover-prep.html#stsover-oaa http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/missions/sts-89/mission-sts-89.html From someones weblog: "Good dream/Freud-type novel whose title eludes me: the White [---]. The White Room? The White something, read in college in a class that also included Freud's Interp of Dreams, author escapes me as well. WWII and before, character has strange dreams, Freud tries to help, told from various perspectives. Frustrating not to remember. Searching for "the white ..." in book searches brings up hundreds. Oh well. " Maybe he was thinking of the white hotel. All the headlines on the page are in impacta font. http://tanque.org/tl/2001_01_01_archive.html Anyone ever done research into the meaning of Cream's "The White Room" ? The search for the white room continues... rh -- Reed Hedges reed@zerohour.net http://zerohour.net/~reed see web page for public key info # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) New member Date: 22 May 2001 01:29:49 EDT > The same feelings come to me still in 2001 - even the KLF has left..., > well you know, what I mean -, still today I don't know what they were > or are about. Welcome. be sure to check out Lazlo's KLF page at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ...with links to some informative pages as well as the FAQ which attempts to explain KLFology. And if you haven't read it yet, pick up a copy of the Illuminatus Trilogy by Robert Anton Wilson. Also, www.klf.de is a worthy stopping ground. -paul Currently in rotation: Wonderlick - Rough Mixes; Proclaimers - Persevere; David Byrne - Look Into the Eyeball www.sayhername.com -- Too Much Joy Official Website Tell your friends. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David A" Subject: Re: (klf) COPIES OF PURE TRANCE 3 Date: 22 May 2001 09:21:53 +0200 Hi, > You may already have this on MP3 format, but having heard the MP3, the > clarity is pretty poor. How about makin' us a better quality mp3? (it's not like we can buy this 12" anyway ;-) Regards, David A. *now playin' : Dario G - In Full Color* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: twenty three Subject: (klf) (Searching for the answers of) Mu Date: 22 May 2001 00:50:40 -0700 (PDT) Hello list, I hope not to duplicate some frequently asked questions, but what are the differences between 1) Waiting (about 42 minutes) 2) Waiting For The Rites of Mu (about 9+ minutes) 3) The Rites of Mu: Martin Sheen (about 29 minutes) (titles may spelled incorrectly, please excuse this behaviour). Isn't the 9-minute-version also narrated by Martin Sheen? And what version(s) are included in the "original" Rights Of Mu by Echo Beach? Bernd C. Meier aka BCM ===== y23y appears courtesy of y23y Enterprises y23y Enterprises appears courtesy of y23y __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) (Searching for the answers of) Mu Date: 22 May 2001 04:10:23 EDT > I hope not to duplicate some frequently asked questions, but what are > the differences between > > 1) Waiting (about 42 minutes) Harder edged Chill Out-y thing. Lots of Hendrix samples. > 2) Waiting For The Rites of Mu (about 9+ minutes) > 3) The Rites of Mu: Martin Sheen (about 29 minutes) #2 is actually just Rites of Mu also. These are the same, sorta. The second being a longer version and different narrative voice. On it being Martin Sheen or not has been an ongoing debate. The CD Waiting for the Rights of Mu contains 1 and 3. -paul Currently in rotation: Wonderlick - Rough Mixes; Proclaimers - Persevere; David Byrne - Look Into the Eyeball www.sayhername.com -- Too Much Joy Official Website Tell your friends. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuey and Michelle Subject: Re: (klf) (Searching for the answers of) Mu Date: 22 May 2001 23:27:22 +1200 should be obvious what no's 1 and 3 are on your list, but ... twenty three wrote: > 2) Waiting For The Rites of Mu (about 9+ minutes) depending on whether this track has narration or not, this could be the fan-produced edit of Waiting For The Rights of Mu CD track 2, with "Martin Sheen" narration removed, or the original Rights of Mu with narration by Scott Peiring. There is no 9 minute version with "Martin Sheen" > Isn't the 9-minute-version also narrated by Martin Sheen? No. cheers -- Stuart Young and Michelle Ardern, say.map@ihug.co.nz 66a Sackville Street, Tel: +64 (0)9 376 8100 Grey Lynn, Auckland, NZ Stuey is webmaster of the New Zealand Green Party: http://www.greens.org.nz/ And webmaster of his own personal website too: http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~stuey/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dan Kuta" Subject: (klf) GLAMCENTRAL online at 24:00 CET!!! Date: 22 May 2001 17:42:21 +0200 Hi. This is just a quick advertisment for GLAMCENTRAL.de which will be online from 24:00 CET today. =====> http://www.glamcentral.de It's not ready yet, but it's growing! Please have a look and give us some feedback, okay? Thanks a lot! Danny --- DJ Kuta, KLF Online (www.klf.de) Glamcentral (www.glamcentral.de) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Milestighe@aol.com Subject: (klf) PURE TRANCE COPIES #2 Date: 22 May 2001 08:03:01 EDT Thanks for the good responce, am compiling a list. I appologise for not being able to upload MP3's, and for needing to charge for copies. To all those that think i'm wrong in charging for copies, please consider the fact that this record has cost me $1400 and to give free copies away would be foolish. Would you give copies away if you'd spent so much? I don't think so, so please to the few that are asking me to do so, the answer is no!! I did not buy the record to make money, I bought it to make my collection that much more special, so saying I should give copies away because it's all about the music is sad. Miles # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stuart.bruce@aardman.com (Stuart Bruce) Subject: Re: (klf) PURE TRANCE COPIES #2 Date: 22 May 2001 17:24:27 +0100 Milestighe@aol.com writes: >I appologise for not being able to upload MP3's, and for needing to >charge >for copies. Even if there's a very legitimate reason why you can't upload an MP3 of the track, people are naturally going to assume that you're not uploading the MP3 because you can't make money off it. I don't think this is necessarily the case, but it's not surprising that some people will think that, and will get upset about the lack of an MP3 version. And it's fairly safe to assume that as soon as a small number of people have CD-R copies, an MP3 of it will appear before very long. > >To all those that think i'm wrong in charging for copies, please consider >the >fact that this record has cost me $1400 and to give free copies away >would be >foolish. I can see your point of view. How much are you asking per CD-R (excluding postage)? Different people will have different opinions on what is a "reasonable" price to pay for a CD-R of somebody's self-owned rare material. Stuart. > -- Stuart Bruce stuart.bruce@aardman.com tel ext 4269 Get fired! Waste all day at: http://www.angrykid.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "maarten bouwes" Subject: Re: (klf) PURE TRANCE COPIES #2 Date: 22 May 2001 17:43:30 -0000 >Milestighe@aol.com writes: > >I appologise for not being able to upload MP3's, and for needing to > >charge > >for copies. I don´t think you even have to apologize for this. We all should keep in mind that you are willing to share the pure trance 3. If there are only 3 copies known, than I don´t think its fair to discuss the fact that you ask money for burning the songs. >Even if there's a very legitimate reason why you can't upload an MP3 of >the track, people are naturally going to assume that you're not >uploading >the MP3 because you can't make money off it. Good point there. As I already mentioned, cherish the fact that he is willing to share this 12". > >To all those that think i'm wrong in charging for copies, please consider >the fact that this record has cost me $1400 and to give free copies away >would be foolish. Nothing new under the sun I assume... Maarten _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: Re: (klf) PURE TRANCE COPIES #2 Date: 22 May 2001 18:12:43 >To all those that think i'm wrong in charging for copies, please >consider the >fact that this record has cost me $1400 and to give free copies >away would be >foolish. No, it would be generous. Actually paying $1400 for a record is foolish. >Would you give copies away if you'd spent so much? I would give copies away for any record I owned if I thought there was good reason too, but then I've never paid $1400 for a record, and I never would even if I were the richest guy on earth, Esspecialy for something that is probably some record factory employe's after work project. I don't >think >so, so >please to the few that are asking me to do so,  the answer is no!! btw, I really don't care if you give away copies or not. It will be on Napster in a few weeks anyway, and even then I don't think I'll bother to get around to getting it. I'd love to hear it, but I'm not as hard core as I used to be I guess. >I did not buy the record to make money, I bought it to make my >collection >that much more special, so saying I should give copies away >because it's all >about the music is sad. No, actually paying $1400 for a probably-less-than-legit-in-some-way KLF release is sad... Chad Gombosi Member SCP www.scponline.net Chad's Game Music Page www.chadsgamemusic.com MP3.com page: www.mp3.com/signofzeta "Let me explain a couple of things. Time is short. That's the first thing. For the weasel, Time is a weasel. For the hero, Time is heroic. For the whore, Time is just another trick. If you're gentle, your Time is gentle. If you're in a hurry, Time flies. Time is a servant, if you are its master. Time is your god, if you are its dog. We are the creators of Time, the victims of Time, and the killers of Time. Time is timeless. That's the second thing. You are the clock, Cassiel." Emit - Far Away So Close _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: RE: (klf) PURE TRANCE COPIES #2 Date: 22 May 2001 14:03:08 -0500 You're absolutely right! It's clear to me that you are a man of extreme wisdom and integrity. Furthermore, you are officially better than everyone else on this list. Miles, please send me a copy of Love Trance, but I'm not too keen on paying for the CDR or the postage. I'm sure you understand. On second thought, why don't you burn a copy for yourself and just send me the original. Thanks for all you're hard work. I can't wait to hear it! Don ">To all those that think i'm wrong in charging for copies, please >consider the >fact that this record has cost me $1400 and to give free copies >away would be >foolish. No, it would be generous. Actually paying $1400 for a record is foolish. >Would you give copies away if you'd spent so much? I would give copies away for any record I owned if I thought there was good reason too, but then I've never paid $1400 for a record, and I never would even if I were the richest guy on earth, Esspecialy for something that is probably some record factory employe's after work project. I don't >think >so, so >please to the few that are asking me to do so, the answer is no!! btw, I really don't care if you give away copies or not. It will be on Napster in a few weeks anyway, and even then I don't think I'll bother to get around to getting it. I'd love to hear it, but I'm not as hard core as I used to be I guess. >I did not buy the record to make money, I bought it to make my >collection >that much more special, so saying I should give copies away >because it's all >about the music is sad. No, actually paying $1400 for a probably-less-than-legit-in-some-way KLF release is sad..." "Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry." D. Banner DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) PURE TRANCE COPIES #2 Date: 22 May 2001 15:11:04 EDT In a message dated 22/05/01 17:17:45 GMT Daylight Time, Milestighe@aol.com writes: > I appologise for not being able to upload MP3's, and for needing to charge > for copies. > To all those that think i'm wrong in charging for copies, please consider > the > fact that this record has cost me $1400 and to give free copies away would > be > foolish. Wow you certainly have a goldmine there thanks to THE KLF's work (how about sending B&J some of the profit you make so they can burn it!) :) . At least people are paying you for the service of tracking down the record and converting it to CD. It's good that you are offering to share it with the rest of the list some of us will never get the chance to hear it any other way > Would you give copies away if you'd spent so much? I don't think so, so > please to the few that are asking me to do so, the answer is no!! You are right, the only time I give away copies of anything I own is if I am getting something out of the person (i.e. copy of something else) and even then I charge them for the CD-R. At one point I did the same thing with the Waiting for the rites of mu CD (I charged a fiver a CD). I wonder if the people I sold them too are still on this list? and if there copies are still playing (anyone remember buying WFRM from d.forster1@uclan.ac.uk a few years ago? I remember a guy from Germany bought one!). > I did not buy the record to make money, I bought it to make my collection > that much more special, so saying I should give copies away because it's all > about the music is sad. Even though you are charging you are actually supporting the music anyway 'cos if you get loads of people to buy the CD and make enough to buy another KLF rarity you will be able to share that with everyone on the list (it's better than it ending up in someone elses hands that doesn't want to share it). BTW How much are the CDs? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuart Bruce Subject: Re: (klf) PURE TRANCE COPIES #2 Date: 22 May 2001 20:09:40 +0100 (BST) On Tue 22 May, Chad Gombosi wrote: > > > > To all those that think i'm wrong in charging for copies, please > > consider the fact that this record has cost me $1400 and to give > > free copies away would be foolish. > > No, it would be generous. Actually paying $1400 for a record is > foolish. Paying $1400 for a record might be misguided, but it's a matter of personal choice. Giving away CD-R copies of that record might be charitable or it might be foolish, but it's also a matter of personal choice. > > Would you give copies away if you'd spent so much? > > I would give copies away for any record I owned if I thought there was > good reason too, but then I've never paid $1400 for a record, and I > never would even if I were the richest guy on earth, Esspecialy for > something that is probably some record factory employe's after work > project. If you were the richest guy on earth, people who worked for you could probably buy themselves records for $1400 out of your expense account and you wouldn't even notice or care. If you dearly wanted a particular item and it cost $1400, and you could easily afford it, you would buy it. > btw, I really don't care if you give away copies or not. Thanks for pointing this out. But if you don't care and have nothing to add, then say what the various other people on this list who don't care are saying, which is nothing. > It will be on Napster in a few weeks anyway, and even then I don't > think I'll bother to get around to getting it. I'd love to hear it, > but I'm not as hard core as I used to be I guess. Some people are not as apathetic as you, and that's why you shouldn't ridicule their behaviour based on your standards. > > I did not buy the record to make money, I bought it to make my > > collection that much more special, so saying I should give copies > > away because it's all about the music is sad. > > No, actually paying $1400 for a probably-less-than-legit-in-some-way > KLF release is sad... Reducing this discussion to needless insults is sad. Stuart. -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk The Utah Saints Mailing List http://groups.yahoo.com/group/utahsaints/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "c-Row" Subject: Re: (klf) PURE TRANCE COPIES #2 Date: 22 May 2001 21:32:14 +0200 > No, it would be generous. Actually paying $1400 for a record is foolish. Generous? Doing copies for free would be generous? From a $1400 record? Now, come on, you don´t really believe the stuff you wrote here, do you? Doing a copy of a 10 $ CD is what I call generous. Asking for free copies of a $1400 record is just shameless. > I would give copies away for any record I owned if I thought there was good > reason too, but then I've never paid $1400 for a record, and I never would > even if I were the richest guy on earth Well, go out, track down a 3x release and pay that amount for it, so you can understand our point of view. It´s not just about sharing or not - remember, I was the guy who uploaded the complete "1987" ($150) in 256 kbps to Pinknet, I tracked down the DMC Minimix almost no one had heard before and uploaded it as well. But this is quite another league as Pure Trance 3. Would you share a $1400 record without getting something in exchange? I guess you wouldn´t. ______ Thomas Touzimsky www.klf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "c-Row" Subject: (klf) Sleeves and labels Date: 22 May 2001 21:41:17 +0200 Anyone knows where I could find the sleeves/labels for "Turn up the strobe" and "E-Train" ? I just can´t believe that it is harder to find a record that was printed 200 times than getting my hands on sleeves that were printed 2000 times... ______ Thomas Touzimsky www.klf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mark weston" Subject: (klf) Love Trance etc.. Date: 22 May 2001 21:11:47 +0100 This is a message to say a sincere thank you to Miles for giving us all the chance to hear a very rare piece of Bill and Jims work. There is not anything wrong in charging for copies of such a rare item. I for one will be ordering cdrs from Miles as i cant wait to hear Love Trance (clearly) and the other side i believe is a track probally not many of us have heard.Once again thanks for sharing the work..Keep Looking Forward. Regards Mark W. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuart Bruce Subject: Re: (klf) Sleeves and labels Date: 22 May 2001 22:09:08 +0100 (BST) On Tue 22 May, c-Row wrote: > > Anyone knows where I could find the sleeves/labels for "Turn up the > strobe" and "E-Train" ? Sadly, if I knew that, I would already own them. > I just cant believe that it is harder to find a record that was > printed 200 times than getting my hands on sleeves that were printed > 2000 times... I think you might have gotten that phrase the wrong way around. :-) It's probably a lot harder to find 1 of 200 than it is to find 1 of 2000... Stuart. -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk The Utah Saints Mailing List http://groups.yahoo.com/group/utahsaints/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dan Kuta" Subject: (klf) Glamcentral again Date: 22 May 2001 23:37:34 +0200 Sorry folks, but my computer hates me. No uploading possible anymore, he tells me politely. Okay. The computer wins. For now... I'll try again tomorrow. At least there's something online now. At least. Cheers, Daniel www.glamcentral.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuart Bruce Subject: Re: (klf) Sleeves and labels Date: 22 May 2001 22:43:54 +0100 (BST) On Tue 22 May, c-Row wrote: > > > Anyone knows where I could find the sleeves/labels for "Turn up > > > the strobe" and "E-Train" ? > > > > Sadly, if I knew that, I would already own them. > > Ok, so if youll ever find TWO of each... ;-) I did once hold copies in my hands, but sadly they weren't mine. :-( > > > I just cant believe that it is harder to find a record that was > > > printed 200 times than getting my hands on sleeves that were > > > printed 2000 times... > > > > I think you might have gotten that phrase the wrong way around. :-) > > It's probably a lot harder to find 1 of 200 than it is to find 1 of > > 2000... > > Uhm... thats what it should be. The point is, I found the wandaful > 12", the Choc Ice 3, January WTIL, JAMS 23... which are very limited. > But it seems to be impossible to find one of 2000 sleeves. > > Quite strange, isnt it ? That's what I thought you meant. How sure are you/we that there are 2000 of these sleeves about? I mean, it's thought that one run of the vinyls was so badly warped that half of them were destroyed- are we sure that 2000 of these sleeves were made in mint condition? I discovered recently (by finding sleeves for a CD single of another artist, which got pulled a couple of weeks before release) that quite often test runs of artwork are done, to check that the print, colours etc. are correct. Apparently these runs can often be of about 50 copies or less, to check everything's in order and to get approval of the finished product from the artist etc., before pressing the full run of thousands. Maybe the #3 and #4 sleeves were printed up in test quantities of 50 or so, but 2000 were never made? Stuart. -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk The Utah Saints Mailing List http://groups.yahoo.com/group/utahsaints/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Subject: (klf) Over The Edge! Date: 23 May 2001 00:06:32 +0100 I've just received an e-mail from Don Joyce from Negativland saying that two cassettes that I sent them several years ago which interested them, but they never actually responded back to me (as they get so much stuff sent to them and a lot of it just sort of slips onto very crowded shelves and they thereby forget about the tiny bit of it that might be any GOOD!) was recently rediscovered, replayed and re-realized they had contained a bunch of good stuff, that has since inspired one of their Over The Edge shows based around the concept "Not broadcast quality." I can't remember what tapes that I sent them, but there might be some KLF samples/remixes on there as well as some reworkings of Negativland stuff and I haven't got a clue as to what they might use or not anyway! It will be broadcast this coming Thursday, May 24th, at midnight California time. You can listen live on the net at www.negativland.com (under OTE icon) or if those hours (3 of them) turn out to be impossible, each show is archived for a week there so you can listen at your convenience anytime during the week. They have live phone access into the show (at 510-848-4425 if anyone can afford it and wants to phone up - vox, tapes, what have you, just DON'T say hello, when your phone stops ringing as you're put direct onto the air.) Apart from including stuff from my cassettes (two c90s) the show will also feature the contents from various other cassette era material and home music makers that they are currently going back through, all with the general idea of how attractive all this unprofessional stuff can be... as well as a fair bit of assorted sound shenanigans. Might even be a good venue/event/opportunity for people to air some of their own stuff or some snippets from the recent KLF Kompetition I guess! Maybe we could see how many people can phone up and sneak bits of Chill Out or WTIL/FTM into the resulting mix? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Blake" Subject: RE: (klf) PURE TRANCE COPIES #2 Date: 23 May 2001 00:50:05 +0100 Miles would have to make 140 copies @ $10 a shot to get his $1400 back, and so what if he did, for fucks sake get real. Waiting for the postman! Phil. > > Thanks for the good responce, am compiling a list. > > I appologise for not being able to upload MP3's, and for needing > to charge > for copies. > To all those that think i'm wrong in charging for copies, please > consider the > fact that this record has cost me $1400 and to give free copies > away would be > foolish. > > Would you give copies away if you'd spent so much? I don't think so, so > please to the few that are asking me to do so, the answer is no!! > > I did not buy the record to make money, I bought it to make my collection > that much more special, so saying I should give copies away > because it's all > about the music is sad. > > Miles # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brendan" Subject: Re: (klf) PURE TRANCE COPIES #2 Date: 23 May 2001 17:29:48 +1000 i'm sure my 2cents aren't needed but who cares. > Chad> btw, I really don't care if you give away copies or not. > Stuart> Thanks for pointing this out. But if you don't care and Stuart> have nothing to add, then say what the various other people Stuart> on this list who don't care are saying, which is nothing. > > Chad> No, actually paying $1400 for a probably-less-than-legit Chad> -in-some-way KLF release is sad... > Stuart> Reducing this discussion to needless insults is sad. i agree with stuart. having bought things that have been way overpriced just because i wanted it, i think its up to the individual to make their own decision about what to pay for what they want. there's no reason to be insulting. going back to saying nothing, brendan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Haslock Subject: RE: (klf) PURE TRANCE COPIES #2 Date: 23 May 2001 10:00:48 +0100 I'd gladly pay for a CDR of Love Trance. Miles is being very considerate and generous for sharing a prized possession - a lot of people wouldn't even have bothered. And it's obvious that a lot of people are quite jealous (;-) Miles, please could you send me the details of how to pay you. Thanks a lot and congratulations on your buy. BTW, has anyone got a spare KLF Tshirt that they want to sell. regards Rich **************************************************************************** LOGICSCOPE REALISATIONS LTD, 64 Great Eastern St, London EC2A 3QR The information contained in this document is intended only for the addressee.It may contain confidential and/or legally privileged material.You may not review, retransmit, disseminate, publish or otherwise use or rely on the information in this document unless you are its intended recipient.If you have received this document in error, Please contact the sender and delete all copies of this material. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Milestighe@aol.com Subject: (klf) PURE TRANCE 3 - CONFIRMATION Date: 23 May 2001 05:47:56 EDT Sorry about delay in getting back to you all, I will email each person who has expressed an interest in the CDR, with cost and my address. If you don't receive an email from me in the next day, or you have yet to ask for a copy please contact me directly ; milestighe@aol.com. Thanks, Miles # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: Re: (klf) PURE TRANCE COPIES #2 Date: 23 May 2001 10:30:42 > > >Chad> No, actually paying $1400 for a probably-less-than-legit >Chad> -in-some-way KLF release is sad... > > >Stuart> Reducing this discussion to needless insults is sad. > >i agree with stuart. having bought things that have been way overpriced >just >because i wanted it, i think its up to the individual to make their own >decision about what to pay for what they want. > >there's no reason to be insulting. All I said was that it was "sad", and the only reason I chose that word is because the original poster said the exact same thing about the MP3 beggers, so if I'm being anything it's being unoriginal, not insulting. It seems the great post modern quandry is when to lable one insult an opinion and someone elses opinion as an insult. Insulting would be something like "You are a moron for paying $700 per track for what is probably a Doctored promo." My post wasn't intended to bring people down, but mearly to suggest that it might be a bit insane to pay for a record that would cost $116 a month for the next year in credit card payments, and just a bit pathetic for trying to defer costs by bootlegging it out for cash. Esspecialy since you won't even make a dent in your debt with the sale of the CD-Rs unless you charge a truely crazy amount. Chad Gombosi Member SCP www.scponline.net Chad's Game Music Page www.chadsgamemusic.com MP3.com page: www.mp3.com/signofzeta "Let me explain a couple of things. Time is short. That's the first thing. For the weasel, Time is a weasel. For the hero, Time is heroic. For the whore, Time is just another trick. If you're gentle, your Time is gentle. If you're in a hurry, Time flies. Time is a servant, if you are its master. Time is your god, if you are its dog. We are the creators of Time, the victims of Time, and the killers of Time. Time is timeless. That's the second thing. You are the clock, Cassiel." Emit - Far Away So Close _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stuart.bruce@aardman.com (Stuart Bruce) Subject: (klf) Pure Trance 3, the finance Date: 23 May 2001 11:47:57 +0100 Hope Miles doesn't mind me mentioning publicly that the asking price is 10ukp per disc, plus postage. Say the CD-Rs cost 1ukp each to buy and make, that's 9ukp extra- approximately $14. So if Miles sold 100 copies, he would "break even". Considering that when I offered to make copies of the Kompetition discs (albeit at cost price which was cheaper), which were tracks that were easily found as MP3s already so a lot of people didn't want CD-R copies, I ended up making more than 40 copies, then it's very possible that 100 people will be interested in these tracks, which haven't yet turned up as good-quality MP3s. Even if only 50 copies were sold, then Miles has a net so-called "loss" of $700- but for that he has a copy of the hyper-rare and much-debated "Pure Trance 3" for his troubles. So essentially it's a business venture- one which has precisely the same aversion to MP3s as the record industry has. Business ventures happen. If you object to that then you should object to McDonalds buying a pile of diseased cows and charging high prices for their hamburgers, by the logic "if I could have afforded it I would have paid $1400 for a pile of diseased cows and then given away the hamburgers free to anybody who wanted one, and then I'd have had a nice structure made of bones left for my troubles as well." Personally, my money will be in the post in the next day or two. Stuart. -- Stuart Bruce stuart.bruce@aardman.com tel ext 4269 Get fired! Waste all day at: http://www.angrykid.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stuart.bruce@aardman.com (Stuart Bruce) Subject: Re(2): (klf) PURE TRANCE COPIES #2 Date: 23 May 2001 11:59:40 +0100 signofzeta@hotmail.com writes: >>there's no reason to be insulting. > >All I said was that it was "sad", and the only reason I chose that word >is >because the original poster said the exact same thing about the MP3 >beggers, >so if I'm being anything it's being unoriginal, not insulting. It seems >the >great post modern quandry is when to lable one insult an opinion and >someone >elses opinion as an insult. Well, I commented that the discussion had been reduced to insults because you had *both* added comments that had no purpose except to call something "sad". However, the original comment was about a general behaviour, whereas your comment was about one specific person's behaviour, and it's a fair point that the same insult or derogatory comment is more offensive when directed at fewer people. > > >Insulting would be something like "You are a moron for paying $700 per >track >for what is probably a Doctored promo." Mmmm. Guarded. > >My post wasn't intended to bring people down, but mearly to suggest that >it >might be a bit insane to pay for a record that would cost $116 a month >for >the next year in credit card payments, and just a bit pathetic for trying >to >defer costs by bootlegging it out for cash. Esspecialy since you won't >even >make a dent in your debt with the sale of the CD-Rs unless you charge a >truely crazy amount. > The words "insane", "pathetic" and "crazy" are dramatic words to use, but they don't disguise the fact that all you are doing is evocatively putting forward your personal opinion, and that's no more valid than anybody else's personal opinion. It was Miles decision to buy the record and it's now his record to do with as he pleases, and your judgemental comments sound petty, childish, repetitive. You sound petulant, and it sounds as if you're petulant because you want to hear the music but won't pay the money. Previously you claimed that you didn't care, but people who really don't care don't use words like "pathetic" as it's indicative of an opinion- and a very single-minded one at that. As for the "crazy" idea of Miles making some of his money back, see my previous post. Stuart. -- Stuart Bruce stuart.bruce@aardman.com tel ext 4269 Get fired! Waste all day at: http://www.angrykid.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Milestighe@aol.com Subject: (klf) in my defence Date: 23 May 2001 07:14:35 EDT I do not intend to sell copies of PT3 to recoup my initial outlay, the idea is not to cover my financial loss, and while we're on the subject, what I pay for an item is no business of anyones except mine. If it takes me a year to oay it off, so be it. Actually I have paid this amount off my card, if i couldn't afford it, i wouldn't have bought it. The record will always be special to all of us, and to me especially, so less insults, it does us no good. I hear all your comments, and take note, but taking the piss or expressing 'sour grapes' is pointless. The record is mine and i'm proud, and selling copies is a way of sharing not taking advantage. Am I making the list members pay? No, it's of their own free will, so back down. I think enough negativity has been spurred by all this, so let's relax. If you don't want a copy from me, no doubt your time will come and we'll all be happy. Miles (not sad or misguided) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: klf@my24.com Subject: (klf) I guess you have all... Date: 23 May 2001 12:51:55 -0000 ...all ready noticed, but todays date is 23/5 2001 (and 2001 = 23*87, and 87 = 23*4-5) . ^^ ^ ^^ ^^ ^ A, I need a job... -- Get your firstname@lastname email for FREE at http://Nameplanet.com/?su # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) I guess you have all... Date: 23 May 2001 10:08:37 EDT In a message dated 23/05/01 13:56:58 GMT Daylight Time, klf@my24.com writes: > todays date is 23/5 2001 (and 2001 = 23*87, and 87 = 23*4-5) Wow - what's next for you, a book on the Bible Code perhaps or the chairman of Mensa or the Illumanatus code!?!!?!??!?? KLF are gonna puzzle ya! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Milestighe@aol.com Subject: (klf) PT3 CDR's Date: 23 May 2001 10:47:47 EDT Although I don't see why I should justify the amount i'm asking for the=20 CDR's, Some people think I should. The amount paid to me will not be pure profit, as Obviously the CDRs cost,=20 not =A31 as previously stated, but audio only CDR's are more like =A31.20 a=20= piece. I am also going to get a cover made, have already got the proof done. Using=20 gatefold card inlays, with glossy colour photocopy of front sleeve on one=20 side, and rear of sleeve on the other. (looks as good as a printed version)=20 at a cost to me of =A360. Cd's will have a silver glossy template stuck onto them, not printed, but=20 still making the CD look good. Miles # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stuart.bruce@aardman.com (Stuart Bruce) Subject: Re: (klf) PT3 CDR's Date: 23 May 2001 16:36:15 +0100 Milestighe@aol.com writes: > >Although I don't see why I should justify the amount i'm asking for the >CDR's, Some people think I should. I think it would put some peoples' minds at rest to be open about both sides of this argument, that's all. > >The amount paid to me will not be pure profit, as Obviously the CDRs >cost, >not £1 as previously stated, but audio only CDR's are more like £1.20 a >piece. Depends how many you buy and where you buy them. For the number you'll probably be buying for this purpose then I believe you can find them cheaper. But of course, that's just a suggestion to try to help you save money, and if 1.20 is how much you're going to pay, so be it. > >I am also going to get a cover made, have already got the proof done. >Using >gatefold card inlays, with glossy colour photocopy of front sleeve on one >side, and rear of sleeve on the other. (looks as good as a printed >version) >at a cost to me of £60. > >Cd's will have a silver glossy template stuck onto them, not printed, but >still making the CD look good. Yep, this is all fair enough. Would you be willing to make any concession, though, for people who might want to send you their own CD-R, and/or people who aren't fussed about paying for an inlay because really they only want to hear the music (or for the people who will be able to produce a better version of the inlay themselves)? It would be nice to give people the choice, but of course that's more hassle for you, and you're perfectly within your rights to simply say "this is what it is, take it or leave it". These are just suggestions and I hope they don't get interpreted negatively. Stuart. -- Stuart Bruce stuart.bruce@aardman.com tel ext 4269 Get fired! Waste all day at: http://www.angrykid.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Milestighe@aol.com Subject: (klf) PT3 CDR's Date: 23 May 2001 11:59:38 EDT In a message dated 23/05/01 15:38:46 GMT, you write: << Yep, this is all fair enough. Would you be willing to make any concession, >though, for people who might want to send you their own CD-R, and/or >people who aren't fussed about paying for an inlay because really they >only want to hear the music (or for the people who will be able to produce >a better version of the inlay themselves)? I take note (as ever) and think that perhaps the best idea is to leave both the CD and the sleeve, and to just send the the CDR in it's jewel case, then the choice is the buyers own. And the price remains the same, the sleeve was an added bonus, but I can see the problems it might cause. > It would be nice to give people the choice, but of course that's more >hassle for you, and you're perfectly within your rights to simply say >this is what it is, take it or leave it". These are just suggestions and >i hope they don't get interpreted negatively. >> Point taken, and it's a good one, no arguments from me. CDR's without sleeve design and stickers on CD would probably be best. Miles # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) PT3 CDR's Date: 23 May 2001 12:02:15 EDT In a message dated 23/05/01 16:38:46 GMT Daylight Time, stuart.bruce@aardman.com writes: > But of course, that's just a suggestion to try to help you save > money, and if 1.20 is how much you're going to pay, so be it. I'm glad he's using expensive 1.20 CD's for this release. The cheaper ones you are on about have serious defects. CD-R's come in a wide variety and the main importance is the colour of the disc. The Green or Blue discs produce very poor quality sound and usually only last a maximum of 5 yrs before they need re-recording. The really good ones are the Gold discs (I've yet to see one) last about 100 years - that's long enough for anyone's lifetime usage :) (the discs are tested under heat ageing tests) (the big question is how long do they last when the laser is constantly heating the disc up, I took my Tomb Raider disc out the drive after 3 hrs and I could nearly fry eggs on the thing!) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stuart.bruce@aardman.com (Stuart Bruce) Subject: Re: (klf) PT3 CDR's Date: 24 May 2001 07:41:31 +0100 Milestighe@aol.com writes: >take note (as ever) and think that perhaps the best idea is to leave both >the CD and the sleeve, and to just send the the CDR in it's jewel case, >then >the choice is the buyers own. > >And the price remains the same, the sleeve was an added bonus, but I can >see >the problems it might cause. You're completely contradicting what you said before, there. One moment you say "the price is higher because it costs me extra because I'm paying out 60 quid for nice sleeves", then you say "on second thoughts I won't do any sleeves, but I'm not going to reduce the price because the sleeve was only an added bonus". I suggested the idea of *not* doing the CD sleeves as a way to reduce the price, not a way for you to keep the same price and increase your profit margin. Self-contradictions like this create holes in your argument. If you keep on like this then it increases the chances that more people will wait until you've sent the first batch of CD-Rs out, because some of the people you send them to will be happy to pass the music on, as MP3s or CD-Rs, for much less than 10ukp a shot. Gradually more people might be deciding to wait for a second-generation copy, which digitally will be as-near-as-dammit as good as the first-generation copy anyway. Personally I'd prefer it if you'd admit to what I believe to be the true case: You *are* charging significantly more than it will cost you to make this discs. This *is* because you want to make a small amount back of the money you originally paid out for the record. While you *could* make an MP3 file of the tracks, or at the least send a CD-R copy to somebody who could quickly make a good MP3 file to distribute, you don't want this to happen because the more people who get an MP3, the fewer people will want to buy your CD-R. This is all a perfectly acceptable decision on your part, and you're perfectly within your rights to do all of the above, and people are free to either buy the CD-Rs at your asking price, or not. Rather that honest approach than trying to make inconsistent 'excuses' for why the price is higher than the cost. Both sides of this argument seem to be kidding themselves somewhat... Stuart. -- Stuart Bruce stuart.bruce@aardman.com tel ext 4269 Get fired! Waste all day at: http://www.angrykid.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FordTimelord@webtv.net (Dr. Who) Subject: (klf) PT3 Date: 24 May 2001 03:21:38 -0400 (EDT) I can't believe that Miles simply offering us copies of this record causes so much debate. You either acccept the price or you won't If you want one buy it, if not, don't. Who cares what he paid, Who cares if he's trying to make a few bucks back, Who cares if he's contradicting himself, No one is being hurt or inconveienced by this. If your insulted , too bad ...suck it up...get over it. Either buy the cd or not and end this stupid discussion. I'm sure Miles would appreciate that also. Doc # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Milestighe@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) PT3 CDR's Date: 24 May 2001 03:50:18 EDT In a message dated 24/05/01 06:44:30 GMT, you write: << You're completely contradicting what you said before, there. =20 > One moment you say "the price is higher because it costs me extra because >I'm paying out 60 quid for nice sleeves", then you say "on second thoughts >I won't do any sleeves, but I'm not going to reduce the price because the >sleeve was only an added bonus". I AM GETTING BORED WITH THIS CONSTANT QUESTIONING ABOUT MY MOTIVES FOR=20 SELLING THE CD'S AND THE COSTS. I never said the price of doing a cover was a REASON for asking =A310 per CD= R.=20 =20 >I suggested the idea of *not* doing the CD sleeves as a way to reduce the >price, not a way for you to keep the same price and increase your profit >margin. =20 IF YOU HAD NOT RAISED THE QUESTION ABOUT HOW PEOPLE MIGHT NOT WANT ME TO DO=20= A=20 COVER, I WOULD NOT HAVE SUGGESTED NOT DOING ONE IN ORDER TO SATISFY THE FEW=20 WHO WOULD PREFER TO DO THEIR OWN. >Self-contradictions like this create holes in your argument. If you keep >on like this then it increases the chances that more people will wait >until you've sent the first batch of CD-Rs out, because some of the people >you send them to will be happy to pass the music on, as MP3s or CD-Rs, for >much less than 10ukp a shot. Gradually more people might be deciding to >wait for a second-generation copy, which digitally will be >as-near-as-dammit as good as the first-generation copy anyway. =20 HMMM..... >Personally I'd prefer it if you'd admit to what I believe to be the true >case: >You *are* charging significantly more than it will cost you to make this >discs. This *is* because you want to make a small amount back of the money >you originally paid out for the record. While you *could* make an MP3 file >of the tracks, or at the least send a CD-R copy to somebody who could >quickly make a good MP3 file to distribute, you don't want this to happen >because the more people who get an MP3, the fewer people will want to buy >your CD-R. This is all a perfectly acceptable decision on your part, and > you're perfectly within your rights to do all of the above, and people are >free to either buy the CD-Rs at your asking price, or not. THE CHOICE IS UP TO THE INDIVIDUAL =20 >Rather that honest approach than trying to make inconsistent 'excuses' for >why the price is higher than the cost. Both sides of this argument seem to >be kidding themselves somewhat... =20 I WAS MADE TO 'EXPLAIN' MYSELF, BY YOU ACTUALLY, AND THEN YOU SUGGESTED=20 PEOPLE MIGHT NOT WANT A COVER MADE. >Stuart. SEEMS STUART WILL ARGUE WITH ME WHETHER I AGREE WITH HIM OR NOT, EITHER WAY=20= A=20 DECISION HAS BEEN MADE NOT TO DO A COVER, AND IF YOU CAN EXCUSE THE PHRASE=20 'FUCK THE MONEY I AM MAKING' . I DO NOT HAVE TO COPY THIS RECORD AT ALL, BUT= =20 AM DOING SO BY REQUEST, AND AM HAPPY TO DO SO. IF THE ARGUMENT PERSISTS, I THINK IT WOULD BE EASIER TO ALL IF THE COPIES=20 AREN'T MADE AT ALL, THEN THERE CAN BE NO FURTHER PROBLEMS. DON'T THREATEN ME= =20 WITH MP3'S BEING MADE. Finally a little confusion has arisen about how I am recording the record,=20 and onto what format. I am using AUDIO cdr's, not computer cdr's. This is=20 because I have an audio CD writer, and not a PC CD burner. The recording wil= l=20 be a standard audio one, from source onto the CD recorder via my studio=20 mixing desk, nothing to do with Wav, or MP3. Miles # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Torsten Pattberg" Subject: (klf) Chrometechnozone... Date: 24 May 2001 10:13:42 +0200 For those who are interested (and bored (or nerved) by that PT3 thing...) www.chrometechnozone.com (( ATTENTION: POSTPONED UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE )) SAVE YOUR TICKETS FOR THE FUTURE SHOW! OR PLEASE RETURN YOUR TICKETS AT THE STORE YOU PURCHASED THEM AT> Sorry for the inconvenience...we are trying to give you the best possible show ! (COMING SOON.....) -- Torsten Pattberg www.klf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stuart.bruce@aardman.com (Stuart Bruce) Subject: Re(2): (klf) PT3 CDR's Date: 24 May 2001 09:11:13 +0100 Milestighe@aol.com writes: >I AM GETTING BORED WITH THIS CONSTANT QUESTIONING ABOUT MY MOTIVES FOR >SELLING THE CD'S AND THE COSTS. Part and parcel of offering to sell a CD, I'm afraid. When I sold the Kompetition CD-Rs I got quite a lot of personal e-mail asking me various questions- would I change the tracklist, why did I divide the tracks the way I did, could I do just one disc with the 'best of' on. I would have been asked a lot more questions if the price I'd been asking was four times the cost of producing it. > >THE CHOICE IS UP TO THE INDIVIDUAL I've always said that. When Chad dug into you about charging money for these discs at all, I posted defending what you were doing. But part of individual choice is giving people the information that they ask for in order to make that choice. > >SEEMS STUART WILL ARGUE WITH ME WHETHER I AGREE WITH HIM OR NOT, EITHER >WAY A >DECISION HAS BEEN MADE NOT TO DO A COVER, AND IF YOU CAN EXCUSE THE >PHRASE >'FUCK THE MONEY I AM MAKING' . I DO NOT HAVE TO COPY THIS RECORD AT ALL, >BUT >AM DOING SO BY REQUEST, AND AM HAPPY TO DO SO. > >IF THE ARGUMENT PERSISTS, I THINK IT WOULD BE EASIER TO ALL IF THE COPIES >AREN'T MADE AT ALL, THEN THERE CAN BE NO FURTHER PROBLEMS. DON'T THREATEN >ME >WITH MP3'S BEING MADE. Making an MP3 is not a threat, it's a fact of life. If copies are made then it is going to happen. If you decide that you aren't going to sell any copies at all, then that's absolutely fine. Other people don't get the music and you give the money back. If this is your attitude then personally I would hope that only a handful of people buy copies off you, and at least one of these people who receives a copy can then distribute it to the other people who are interested, without being so grumpy and profit-motivated. After all, by your own admission you paid the $1400 because you wanted the record. If somebody else (such as myself or probably several other people) is perfectly happy to deal with the distribution of copies, label printing, accepting US$ money orders and PayPal (which I can), MP3s etc., then why not let them do it. If it really was a case of "fuck the money you are making" then making MP3s would not be a "threat". So if MP3s _are_ a threat, then you're lying. And if you're lying then you can fuck right off, and hopefully some other people on this list may be of the same opinion. Stuart. -- Stuart Bruce stuart.bruce@aardman.com tel ext 4269 THE OPINIONS CONTAINED IN THIS E-MAIL ARE NOT NECESSARILY THOSE OF THIS COMPANY Get fired! Waste all day at: http://www.angrykid.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Chrometechnozone... Date: 24 May 2001 05:00:22 EDT In a message dated 24/05/01 09:12:13 GMT Daylight Time, Torsten@Klf.De writes: > www.chrometechnozone.com > > (( ATTENTION: POSTPONED UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE )) SAVE YOUR TICKETS FOR THE > FUTURE SHOW! OR PLEASE RETURN YOUR TICKETS AT THE STORE YOU PURCHASED THEM > AT> Sorry for the inconvenience...we are trying to give you the best > possible show ! (COMING SOON.....) > Little bit of bother with Wanda I wonder? I did e-mail Mute records to tell them that Wanda was posing as The KLF (and also advertising herself with the ***K The Millennium video.) I wonder if Mute have got in touch with them :) BTW - The website seems to have disappeared now. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: Re: Re(2): (klf) PT3 CDR's Date: 24 May 2001 05:07:31 EDT In a message dated 24/05/01 09:13:23 GMT Daylight Time,=20 stuart.bruce@aardman.com writes: > If it really was a case of "fuck the money you are making" then making > MP3s would not be a "threat". So if MP3s _are_ a threat, then you're > lying. And if you're lying then you can fuck right off, and hopefully som= e > other people on this list may be of the same opinion.=20 Hey don't piss miles off enough so he doesn't do these discs, when I get=20= =A310=20 together I'm gonna order one of these 'cos I like many other people on this=20 list want to hear it, and I think it's very good what Miles is doing. If yo= u=20 piss Miles off too much he may refuse to do these discs and then nobody but=20 Miles will ever get to hear such a rarity :'( # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: Re: (klf) PT3 CDR's Date: 24 May 2001 12:50:14 While you *could* make an MP3 file >of the tracks, or at the least send a CD-R copy to somebody who could >quickly make a good MP3 file to distribute, you don't want this to happen >because the more people who get an MP3, the fewer people will want to buy >your CD-R. Yeah, this is probably true. If it was just a matter of getting the tracks out the the fans all he would have to do is make one decent quality MP3 (or .wav even really, it's only 2 tracks, then maybe some talented list member could master it a bit), email, ICQ, or FTP it to one of the several list members with good server access (such as myself, and belive me, I'm not suggesting anything) and then the files would multiply that rabbits and we would all have it for free. It would cost him nothing. I just picked up a amusing Hall and Oates remix bootleg this past weekend. I put it on CD just to annoy a coworker. Cost me less than $0.50, and btw does anyone happen to no anything about this totally Off Topic white lable? It's got "Full Intention vs. Hall and Oates" one one side and "Janet" written on the other side (that sone contains Janet Jackson samples). Chad Gombosi Member SCP www.scponline.net Chad's Game Music Page www.chadsgamemusic.com MP3.com page: www.mp3.com/signofzeta "Let me explain a couple of things. Time is short. That's the first thing. For the weasel, Time is a weasel. For the hero, Time is heroic. For the whore, Time is just another trick. If you're gentle, your Time is gentle. If you're in a hurry, Time flies. Time is a servant, if you are its master. Time is your god, if you are its dog. We are the creators of Time, the victims of Time, and the killers of Time. Time is timeless. That's the second thing. You are the clock, Cassiel." Emit - Far Away So Close _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: Re: (klf) PT3 CDR's Date: 24 May 2001 12:53:34 > >I AM GETTING BORED WITH THIS CONSTANT QUESTIONING ABOUT MY MOTIVES FOR >SELLING THE CD'S AND THE COSTS. > I think you got him mad now, he's talking in all caps. Chad Gombosi Member SCP www.scponline.net Chad's Game Music Page www.chadsgamemusic.com MP3.com page: www.mp3.com/signofzeta "Let me explain a couple of things. Time is short. That's the first thing. For the weasel, Time is a weasel. For the hero, Time is heroic. For the whore, Time is just another trick. If you're gentle, your Time is gentle. If you're in a hurry, Time flies. Time is a servant, if you are its master. Time is your god, if you are its dog. We are the creators of Time, the victims of Time, and the killers of Time. Time is timeless. That's the second thing. You are the clock, Cassiel." Emit - Far Away So Close _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "happy consumer!" Subject: RE: (klf) Over The Edge! Date: 26 May 2001 18:55:11 -0700 >I've just received an e-mail from Don Joyce from Negativland John, congratulations! thats really good to hear. last year, a friend and i went to broadcast their concert. i brought my "K FOUNDATION BURN A MILLION QUID" book to show them and see what they thought. they of course were sort of busy setting up a massive stage show so it was sort of difficult. but i kept bugging them to see if they knew about the KLF or what they had done. they didnt really seem to understand why i was so fixed on KLF, but i was trying to explain their history but it was kind of pointless. anyways, hopefully i planted the seeds of interest, and your transmission will spur it on. The KLF and Negativland definitely need to know about each other. what would happen if they crossed paths? i think they need a remix by the scourge of the earth. -happyconsumer! ps, im waiting for some odc1 remixes to get finished, then i'll send off the discs. Visit the world's greatest site at http://www.farts.com and listen to the fart of the day. Also, get your very own farts.com E-mail account. FREE!!!!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mr. Flewin" Subject: (klf) Poor Trance 3 Date: 27 May 2001 04:28:27 Yeah, you've got to be a moron to read that topic incorrectly. Miles.. I apologize for further adding to this chaos.. K now to the main gist of the matter. I am interested in seeing this preserved. I am interested enough in investigating with Miles for price and stuff like that. What I am NO LONGER interested in, is how this list has turned into a childish war of words. It's become very obvious what fans are really made of on this list. I am not going to even bother going into the list of what kind of fan is what and so forth as someone once tried to do. I know where my fan status lies.. you know where yours lies.. yours referring to you, the reader of this. I have sat here reading over the digest and seeing Miles get flame wrecking garbage upon him and him having to needlessly defend himself. And to boot... this isn't the first time I've seen this froth about.. it's been going at it for quite a while now. It's crap like this where everyone's too set in their ways [Excuse me.. ALOT Of people are set in their ways.. sorry..] and so forth... I wouldn't be surprised if there's been alot of new fans deciding.. hey! A KLF Mailing list! Finally a place where I can chat with other people about this cool group... and then after seeing this all, decided to screw the mailing list and go off doing whatever else... I can see all the views... I can understand a fair amount of them... I'm amazed Miles hasn't snapped the record into tiny pieces an then instead of a cdr, mails little slivers of the record out in their place. [BTW... I'm not being serious... although there probably are some people out there who would do such a thing... their choice.. ain't gonna stop 'em.. can't stop 'em.] Stuff like all these petty arguments and other things are the reason I don't bother with the Mobility digest. I'm probably missing alot of juicy stuff... but then again.. I'm missing alot of the BS so it works. Time to fade to black... maybe I'll poke my head in a few months down the road.. hopefully things will end up cooling down. On a positive note... I like your new mix c-Row... wicked using the interview samples ^^ Completely floored me! My own 2 cents for anyone in the future... if you care... even if you don't... If you get an ultra obscure rarity... and you want to share it. Share amongst your personal and trusted friends... only let them know you have it. This way... it's shared.. and you don't have people battling about the price is too high or mp3's have to be made... etc. This way you don't have to hear from whining kids Miles.. this idea woulda worked great.. but then again I can completely sympathize with how you wanted it to be done... just sorry you're having to go through this shit. If it keeps up... tell everyone to seriously go fuck themselves and if you want to share.. choose so on your own terms and if someone complains.. throw em out of the loop. Sad when one simple person's decent idea has to come to do so much criticism. It's a fucking record people... not World War III. I have now left the building... thank god I leave still alive.... may others survive on to find peace... I have a feeling K Cera Cera won't be heard for quite a long time yet... _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Subject: Re: (klf) Over The Edge! Date: 27 May 2001 14:41:36 +0100 happy consumer! writes >>I've just received an e-mail from Don Joyce from Negativland > >The KLF and Negativland definitely need to know about each other. >what would happen if they crossed paths? >i think they need a remix by the scourge of the earth. Indeed! Maybe Negativland can do a KLF remix album for their 23rd anniversary? ;-) BTW That weekly Negativland/Over The Edge radio show that featured some stuff from myself that was sent to them has now supposed to have been temporarily archived for a week or so at: http://www.negativland.com/ote_live/ but for some odd reason both of the previous fortnight`s shows seem to be exactly the same real audio stream about Ken Nordine?!? I guess that it`s either a mistake or a little joke by them! http://www.negativland.com/ote_live/051801.ram http://www.negativland.com/ote_live/052501.ram Also, anyone know how I can download the broadcast as a file if/when it eventually goes online? "Not Broadcast Quality" - 3 hours May 24, 2001 Solo. Emphasizing a lot of tapes from the home made cassette audio era, we explore the lo-fi unheard and unhearable, most all of a Negativland 2000 tour broadcast made at WNUR, Evanston Il, Hoax's "central Europe{" DJ, Pastor Dick on the bottle, Linda McCartney, and so much more not broadcast quality material and noise we don't no where to stop, or start. We had to turn the Receptacle upside down and shake out the contents stuck on the bottom after this one. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuart Bruce Subject: RE: (klf) Over The Edge! Date: 27 May 2001 17:15:15 +0100 (BST) On Sun 27 May, happy consumer! wrote: > The KLF and Negativland definitely need to know about each other. what > would happen if they crossed paths? Well, Bill Drummond and Negativland have both been associated with Chumbawamba in the not-too-distant past, so there's a good chance that they've heard of each other, at least. Stuart. -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk The Utah Saints Mailing List http://groups.yahoo.com/group/utahsaints/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darrenforster99@aol.com Subject: (klf) KLF - Frankie Bones - Meat Beat Manifesto - Her.mp3??? Date: 28 May 2001 14:46:55 EDT I've just found this MP3 on WinMX Peer Networking Protocol (WPNP) (www.winmx.com). KLF-Frankie Bones-Meat Beat Manifesto-Her.mp3 anyone know what this is? is it The KLF or just someone with the same name. I looked through the discography and the only thing I could find was with Frankie "Bones" Break. BTW - Anyone who likes Napster will love this replacement to Napster - WinMX (www.winmx.com), just like Napster but fixes "broken downloads", queue if persons busy downloading and connection to many other servers (including Napster, WPNP and OpenNap servers). I rate this 10/10 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "c-Row" Subject: Re: (klf) KLF - Frankie Bones - Meat Beat Manifesto - Her.mp3??? Date: 28 May 2001 21:13:02 +0200 > I've just found this MP3 on WinMX Peer Networking Protocol (WPNP) > (www.winmx.com). KLF-Frankie Bones-Meat Beat Manifesto-Her.mp3 anyone know > what this is? is it The KLF or just someone with the same name. I looked > through the discography and the only thing I could find was with Frankie > "Bones" Break. Part of the Prodigy Dirtchamber Sessions. Kind of megamix, includes "What Time Is Love (pure trance)", among other famous artists like Bomb The Bass and the ones mentioned above. Can still be found on CDNow or Amazon for a normal price. _____ Thomas Touzimsky www.klf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brendan" Subject: (klf) Prodigy Dirtchamber Sessions (Was: - Frankie Bones - Meat Beat Manifesto - Her.mp3) Date: 29 May 2001 16:49:15 +1000 Howdy, > > I've just found this MP3 on WinMX Peer Networking Protocol (WPNP) > > (www.winmx.com). KLF-Frankie Bones-Meat Beat Manifesto-Her. > > mp3 anyone know what this is? is it The KLF or just someone with > > the same name. I looked through the discography and the only thing > > I could find was with Frankie "Bones" Break. > > Part of the Prodigy Dirtchamber Sessions. Kind of megamix, includes "What > Time Is Love (pure trance)", among other famous artists like Bomb The Bass > and the ones mentioned above. > > Can still be found on CDNow or Amazon for a normal price. it can still be found in melbourne, aust as well. its all over the place, i certainly wouldnt have assumed its hard to get. imho, if you're buying the album just for the klf bit, save your money. "kind of megamix" is a good description. i've heard it compared to that 'stars on? 45" track that came out years(decade/s?) ago. from my understanding, the cd arose because liam did a late night mix show and bootleg tapes of it started circulating. at some point, liam decided to do it as a mix cd. it wasnt the same as the mix show cos he couldnt get clearance to use some of the samples (including the beatles). i've liked almost everything prodigy have done (to the point of buying the 12"s and cd singles to get the non album tracks, but this isnt worth it. its not even 'mixed' as such, it was programmed. i guess i was expecting a mix cd to be mixed with two 1200's and maybe a sampler. i recall this got a fair bit of publicity when it was released. i would expect you could still find reviews of it at the normal spots. try nme or some of the english music sites. cheers brendan ps - anyone got copies of the bootleg tapes they want to share? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brendan" Subject: (klf) mix tapes / cds / mp3s (probably off topic) Date: 29 May 2001 20:54:24 +1000 Hi everybody, if this is too far offtopic pls reply by email does anyone have any; * mix tapes by the klf or of them djing (ie - someone stuck a tape deck under the mixing desk and recorded a bootleg). as far as i know this doesnt exist, but no harm in asking again :) * mix tapes containing WTIL: Pure Trance with preferably music from the same time frame (i'd settle for a new 'old skool' tape) i'd be happy for titles of cd's, or if anyone could make me a cassette of ny bootlegs. i heard (on the list?) that there was an mix cd with oakenfold that had WTIL on it but i dont know the title. i think it was 'ibiza' something. i havent been able to find it with a lot of asking and looking through track listings. thanx brendan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stephen ives Subject: Re: (klf) Prodigy Dirtchamber Sessions (Was: - Frankie Bones - Meat Beat Date: 29 May 2001 21:34:16 +0800 Brendan wrote: > its not even 'mixed' as such, it was programmed. i guess i was expecting a mix > > cd to be mixed with two 1200's and maybe a sampler. > > well we play out using 2 computers mixing wave files - and no turntable insight - seems to work well for us .. stephen http://www.digitalcutuplounge.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "c-Row" Subject: Re: (klf) mix tapes / cds / mp3s (probably off topic) Date: 29 May 2001 15:01:39 +0200 > does anyone have any; > > * mix tapes by the klf or of them djing (ie - someone stuck a tape deck > under the mixing desk and recorded a bootleg). as far as i know this doesnt > exist, but no harm in asking again :) No real tapes, but there is an mp3 of the KLF and Echo & The Bunnymen playing "What Time Is Love" live in Amsterdam - not the track included on the regular remix 12". Sound quality is quite poor, though. _____ Thomas Touzimsky www.klf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: neil sampson Subject: Re: (klf) mix tapes... Date: 29 May 2001 14:29:02 +0100 > * mix tapes containing WTIL: Pure Trance with preferably music from the same > time frame (i'd settle for a new 'old skool' tape) ahhh...unfortunately i never quite captured it at the time on a decent recording, but during a set i played a while back i neatly dropped WTIL the original PT version and felt it needed something a bit more as well...so i plopped the rather cheesy vocals of Mr Slick Rick over the top "Roof is on Fire", which is incidentally, where the Chemical Brothers ripped the "Hey Boy, Hey Girl" vocal sample from. Went down a storm... old house/rave meets old hip hop = top combination...shame the tape (it was a while ago) screwed up before i even got to that point...it would have compared favourably to the Britney Joins the Jamms komp mix. laters neil - plunging once more into the murky depths of lurkdoom. MonkeyMania in FullFX http://www.themonkeymen.co.uk ___________________________________________ It's amazing what happens when you breathe. www.breathe.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) mix tapes / cds / mp3s (probably off topic) Date: 29 May 2001 09:46:51 EDT > No real tapes, but there is an mp3 of the KLF and Echo & The Bunnymen > playing "What Time Is Love" live in Amsterdam - not the track included on > the regular remix 12". Sound quality is quite poor, though. Liverpool 92, actually. But I'm nitpicking. The tape is indeed poor. -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stuart.bruce@aardman.com (Stuart Bruce) Subject: Re(2): (klf) Prodigy Dirtchamber Sessions (Was: - Frankie Bones - Meat Beat Mani Date: 29 May 2001 14:55:51 +0100 stephen@hk.net writes: > >Brendan wrote: > >> its not even 'mixed' as such, it was programmed. i guess i was >expecting a mix > >well we play out using 2 computers mixing wave files - and no turntable >insight >- seems to work well for us .. I think the implication was that it wasn't done live, in real-time, rather than necessarily what format was being used to play from. A very large number of the mixed compilation albums out at the moment are pre-programmed rather than live-mixed. In fact if it doesn't make a point of saying "mixed live" it probably wasn't. Stuart. -- Stuart Bruce stuart.bruce@aardman.com tel ext 4269 Get fired! Waste all day at: http://www.angrykid.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brendan" Subject: Re: (klf) Prodigy Dirtchamber Sessions (Was: - Frankie Bones - Meat Beat Manifesto - Her.mp3) Date: 30 May 2001 00:11:16 +1000 Howdy Stephen, > > its not even 'mixed' as such, it was programmed. i guess i was expecting a mix > > > > cd to be mixed with two 1200's and maybe a sampler. > > > > > well we play out using 2 computers mixing wave files - and no turntable insight > - seems to work well for us .. thats fine i have no prob with that. perhaps i should have said 2 sound sources, but he apparently used turntables and computers and basically programmed it all together over a lengthy period of time. maybe sequenced is a better word for it. from the articles i've read, it seemed to be more um..thought about/ played with until he had his sequencing right on the computer and just recorded that. imho a mix tape (especially when its advertised as such (and now i look carefully at the cd i cant actually see it said anywhere on the cd so maybe i am being harsh in my judgement) should be done live. if i try to include all sources of sound (wave files, mp3s etc) in my definition, it should be one real live person selecting the tracks and choosing the right samples and making it all come together. using a computer program to sequence all his favourite tracks together - its not him doing it live. its a computer spitting out what its been programmed. i dont think it would be possible for liam to go to a normal club and reproduce the sound. i know that every live dj set is different but even with the same records i dont think he could do it. he could go to a computer and load his file and play that, but it wouldnt be live. if the turntable wizards out there can make magic using 2 or more turntables (chem bros come to mind, invisable scratch pickles (i'm suire i spelt that wrong), the avalanches) and liam was supposedly a wizard dj, well why did he have to use a computer. maybe its just me being harsh. i was expecting good things from the cd and was disappointed. i even like most (and own more than a few) of the songs on the cd, i just dont like the versions on that (dirtchamber) cd. cheers brendan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Blake" Subject: RE: (klf) Prodigy Dirtchamber Sessions (Was: - Frankie Bones - Meat Beat Manifesto - Her.mp3) Date: 29 May 2001 15:24:54 +0100 > -----Original Message----- > From: Brendan > Sent: 29 May 2001 07:49 > To: klf@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (klf) Prodigy Dirtchamber Sessions (Was: - Frankie Bones - Meat > Beat Manifesto - Her.mp3) > > imho, if you're buying the album just for the klf bit, save your money. > "kind of megamix" is a good description. i've heard it compared to that > 'stars on? 45" track that came out years(decade/s?) ago. I think It's Great! Phil. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Subject: Re: (klf) Prodigy Dirtchamber Sessions Date: 30 May 2001 01:12:09 +1000 Brendan wrote: > thats fine i have no prob with that. perhaps i should have said 2 sound > sources, but he apparently used turntables and computers and basically > programmed it all together over a lengthy period of time. maybe sequenced is > a better word for it. from the articles i've read, it seemed to be more > um..thought about/ played with until he had his sequencing right on the > computer and just recorded that. Mary-Anne Hobbs actually challenges him about this a bit in the interview before the broadcast of the original mix, as he was the first (dunno if he's still the only) person to work up a mix at home and send it in, rather than coming into the studio and doing it live to air. Brendan- I've got this on CD. I can send you a tape by the end of the week, or a CD, erm, sometime in the next few months. Email me offlist with a trade suggestion. Anyone else who has Breezeblock mixes on CD to trade is also invited to contact me, especially if they have Hobbs' ex-bloke Clint Poppie's set... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jan Lund Thomsen Subject: (klf) Stereo MCs: Konnection? Date: 29 May 2001 17:21:07 +0200 Having just bought Stereo MCs latest outing "Deep, Down & Dirty" I was pleasantly suprised to hear the 4th track start off with a re-recording of a familiar B&J/Lloyd Webber riff that continues throughout the song. There's even a "Take what you want!" bit near the end. Konnection? --Jan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Johnson Subject: (klf) this CD-R business (so to speak) ;) Date: 29 May 2001 15:10:19 -0700 Sorry to stir the pot so late, but my email server was wacky last week. In regard to Miles' price; I was floored to learn from his email that he wants almost $20 per copy. Perhaps he should look up the definition of "nominal"... :/ It is patently obvious that he is trying to recoup as much as possible of the money he spent on this 12". That is fine; but it would be nice if he was honest and up-front about it, rather than hiding behind obfuscations and denials (and then getting cranky when people call him on it, even if they do it nicely and in a supportive fashion). That is what I find *really* annoying and off-putting. The asking price was enough to give me pause; Miles' obvious lack of candor killed it for me. I'm not sending $20 to someone I believe is lying to me; trust is important in this sort of thing. Something to think about: How many of the people sending money to Miles are going to turn around and try to recoup *their* expenditures by flogging copies to the list? After all, turn about is fair play, and Miles' has set such a sterling example. :/ Chris (who thinks this whole mess could have been avoided by charging a reasonable amount (like under $10 (*well* under)) in the first place, or by treeing/FTPing it, and avoiding the hassle) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "RMStringer" Subject: (klf) Dirtchamber Sessions!!!! Date: 29 May 2001 18:54:33 -0500 I thought that they were very good even if they were mixed on a comp. It surprised me to hear a KLF song on the mix disk. RMStringer # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brendan" Subject: Re: (klf) Prodigy Dirtchamber Sessions (Was: - Frankie Bones - Meat Beat Manifesto - Her.mp3) Date: 30 May 2001 12:00:29 +1000 Hi all, boy didnt i create some traffic :-) > > thats fine i have no prob with that. perhaps i should have said 2 sound > > sources, but he apparently used turntables and computers and basically > > programmed it all together over a lengthy period of time. maybe sequenced is > > a better word for it. from the articles i've read, it seemed to be more > > um..thought about/ played with until he had his sequencing right on the > > computer and just recorded that. > > Mary-Anne Hobbs actually challenges him about this a bit in the > interview before the broadcast of the original mix, as he was the first > (dunno if he's still the only) person to work up a mix at home and send > it in, rather than coming into the studio and doing it live to air. hooray - some one else noticed. i'm guessing that mary-anne is the host of whatever show the mix was on. JJJ here has mixed up on sat nights and they generally say if its a 'prerecordered' mix. i remember one dj from japan i think sent them an mp3 to play. > Brendan- I've got this on CD. I can send you a tape by the end of the > week, or a CD, erm, sometime in the next few months. Email me offlist > with a trade suggestion. cheers :-) > Anyone else who has Breezeblock mixes on CD to trade is also invited the wha?? mary-anne's show? > to contact me, especially if they have Hobbs' ex-bloke Clint Poppie's > set... ooh! i know who that is. moving to email :-) cheers brendan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brendan" Subject: Re: (klf) Prodigy Dirtchamber Sessions (Was: - Frankie Bones - Meat Beat Mani Date: 30 May 2001 12:23:44 +1000 Hi Stuart, > I think the implication was that it wasn't done live, in real-time, rather > than necessarily what format was being used to play from. thanks - thats more what i meant. > A very large number of the mixed compilation albums out at the moment are > pre-programmed rather than live-mixed. In fact if it doesn't make a point > of saying "mixed live" it probably wasn't. and you cant trust the crowd noises in a live track either :-) cheers brendan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brendan" Subject: Re: (klf) Dirtchamber Sessions!!!! Date: 30 May 2001 12:46:12 +1000 > I thought that they were very good even if they were mixed on a comp. It > surprised me to hear a KLF song on the mix disk. perhaps thats why i didnt think too much of it. i was used to hearing WTIL being used in mix tapes. i still have a few tapes from that era (mostly me making bad mistakes unfortunetly) that i listen to occasionally and if i make a tape these days it will typically contain america or ftm so i'm still hearing it. all this posting has made me think that maybe i just expected too much from it *shrug* cheers brendan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: twenty three Subject: (klf) (Maybe OT) Some queer things Date: 30 May 2001 01:17:06 -0700 (PDT) This may be off-topic, but I must tell You about some (more or less) Konnections yesterday... 1. Doing some internet banking stuff, system reported error and retype, leftover of wrong, garbled input was symply a "K". 2. Going to the snackbar, looking up the waiting number next to me: 23. (Well, I had phoned there on the way, so I wasn't given a number - that was MY number, I presume.) 3. Later using my Bookman (model BDK-1460, german/english) looking up the entry for "total of digits of a number" I scrolled down and it said: "Quersumme von 23 bilden = add the digits in 23". 4. Well, I did as i was "commanded": the total of my birth year is 23. It really happened - but it was the 29th of may - so: why? Bernd C. BCM P.S.: Just a last thought on this: 29th of may, total of digits of 29 is 11; 11 is an official number in germany related to the carnival. Someone played tricks on me...? ===== y23y appears courtesy of y23y Enterprises y23y Enterprises appears courtesy of y23y __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dan Kuta" Subject: (klf) still On Topic (in a way) ... Date: 30 May 2001 13:19:11 +0200 Hey, I just stumbled upon some good old dance-like stuff from the early 90's... Concerning KLF style - listen to "Rap to the world" (B.G. the Prince of Rap)! A VERY KLFish beat and bassline!!! Beat and bassline are VERY similar to the 3 A.M. Guns of Mu Mu mix! Thought you'd like to know. :) I'm outta here, Dan --- DJ Kuta, KLF Online (www.klf.de) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andrew Lee" Subject: (klf) This months Marek mention Date: 30 May 2001 21:41:59 +0100 Any one got any of the Kfront cdrs they would consider selling me? Marek never showed up - even tho' I sent him footage of the chipping norton rave ! Just hope the guy who sent him the tapes got them back!! Cheers Andy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Subject: Re: (klf) Over The Edge! Date: 30 May 2001 23:24:11 +0100 I've just listened to last week`s Negativland/Over The Edge radio show (but am still experiencing problems trying to download the real audio stream to hard-disk at the moment!) There are some KLF bits at 1 hour 38 minutes in and at 2 hours 3 minutes with various KLF/Dr Who stuff and some discussion about a certain car that appeared on a Dr. Who album cover as well as an archive track supposedly featuring two members of The KLF. There`s also a good phone call at 2 hours 30 that is all about The Billboard Liberation Front having recently detourned loads of dotcom company billboards on the way to silicon valley with stuff like 404 errors, etc. The real audio stream is now up online and temporarily archived for a week or so (but should have originally gone up a week ago and usually stays for a week so it might be gone in the next 24 hours or so after tomorrow`s broadcast...) and that Linda McCartney wailing at about 55 minutes or so in really has to be heard to be believed as it is truly awful!!! :-O http://www.negativland.com/ote_live/ http://www.negativland.com/ote_live/052501.ram "Not Broadcast Quality" - 3 hours May 24, 2001 Solo. Emphasizing a lot of tapes from the home made cassette audio era, we explore the lo-fi unheard and unhearable, most all of a Negativland 2000 tour broadcast made at WNUR, Evanston Il, Hoax's "central Europe{" DJ, Pastor Dick on the bottle, Linda McCartney, and so much more not broadcast quality material and noise we don't no where to stop, or start. We had to turn the Receptacle upside down and shake out the contents stuck on the bottom after this one. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: neil sampson Subject: Re: (klf) This months Marek mention Date: 31 May 2001 08:48:13 +0100 Hi there, Just a quick email to say that I lent Marek a whole heap of videos and after quite a long period of chasing, I got them all back a while ago...with some cd-rs of various bits and bobs he'd managed to get onto cd-r format...if anyone wants to borrow these cd-rs i've got and make them a bit more freely available to everyone, they're more than welcome, i don't have the equipment or time unfortunately. Hope this helps. neil ps - did you get your chipping norton rave source video back ? On Wed, 30 May 2001, "Andrew Lee" wrote: > > > Any one got any of the Kfront cdrs they would consider selling me? > > Marek never showed up - even tho' I sent him footage of the chipping norton > rave ! > > Just hope the guy who sent him the tapes got them back!! MonkeyMania in FullFX http://www.themonkeymen.co.uk ___________________________________________ It's amazing what happens when you breathe. www.breathe.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Billie Wheatley" Subject: (klf) (KLF) First Contact Date: 31 May 2001 13:13:53 Greetings fellow KLFites, This is my first ever posting on the list. I've been registered for a while and (when I get a chance) I read what you all have to say and ask. So I thought it only fair if I have a go too. I'm not quite as hardcore a fan as alot of you seem to be, so I probably wouldnt have as much knowledge about The KLF as you - hence I doubt I would have any information to offer. I do have a couple of questions though that would be nice if answered. Firstly: On the 'Chill Out' Album, I beleive its Track 4, 'Dream Time in Lake Jackson', the chanting that morphs into a perfectly pitched whistling melody; Is it real or produced? Ive heard that a form of chant called 'throat singing' is possible which is similar as described to the sound, but I just cant come to terms with it being real. However on the other hand, if it isnt real, it's done extremely well. Secondly: There a compilation CD called 'The Best of Chill Out' (unrelated to klf chill out), but has a remix of LTTT with some intense train samples and some daring pitch shifting. It says on the CD 'LTTT' 'Mu Di Mix' (which I'm sure is Moody Boys). Now in attempt to find this on vinyl, I found 'LTTT Remix 5' (KLF008R) which is virtually the same as the 'Mu Di Mix' but doesnt have the pitch shifting. The vinyl has no credit to Moody Boys or anyone else for that matter so Im not sure what to think. Did the Moody Boys remix this track but only played around with the pitch control? or are The Moody Boys actually Bill and Jimmy in disguise? A freind of mine recently interviewed Alex Patterson (The Orb) for 'Inpress Magazine', Melbourne, Australia, promoting his new album. It was a classic, she opened the interview by asking "So are you really Bill Drummond from The KLF?" he laughed and replied "Good one, but no". Later on in the interview she got back on the topic of his work with Jimmy, and he said something interesting about'Space': He claims that both him and Jimmy worked on the album, completed it, planned to release it as 'The Orb' and then had their fallimg out. Apparently Jimmy was the only one with the Master tape and allegedly 'removed' Alex's work from it and proceeded to release it under 'KLF Communications'. Again I'm not sure what to think. How can you 'remove' half of the work from a finished peice of music?, or Is Alex so spiteful to spin slanderous gossip to get back at Jimmy? Or Was Jimmy the spiteful one to actually do such a thing?........Maybe he did the same to the Moody Boys... Not making accusations here just pondering the possibilities. If anyone has some info regarding any or all of these topics I would be grateful. But I guess Im just posessed by the handmaidens of evil arent I... Arent we all. Q/ What time is love? A/ Love is timeless, time is timeless, as is pure art, and pure trance. Peace and balance, Billie Jazz _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nigel_Armstrong@tertio.com Subject: Re: (klf) (KLF) First Contact Date: 31 May 2001 14:28:17 +0100 Billie, About the throat singing thing - this is indeed real. Here's an article which explains how it works: http://www.sciam.com/1999/0999issue/0999levin.html Welcome to the list! Nigel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stuart.bruce@aardman.com (Stuart Bruce) Subject: Re: (klf) (KLF) First Contact Date: 31 May 2001 14:41:24 +0100 spiritlevel@hotmail.com writes: > Ive heard that a form of chant called >'throat singing' is possible which is similar as described to the sound, >but >I just cant come to terms with it being real. However on the other hand, >if >it isnt real, it's done extremely well. It's real. Check out a track called "Massive" on the latest Utah Saints album- it uses a very similar form of throat singing as its principle element. Sounds amazing. See also the link that's already been posted, of course. > >Secondly: There a compilation CD called 'The Best of Chill Out' >(unrelated >to klf chill out), but has a remix of LTTT with some intense train >samples >and some daring pitch shifting. It says on the CD 'LTTT' 'Mu Di Mix' >(which >I'm sure is Moody Boys). It's not the Moody Boys. It's actually called the "Mu D" mix because it's moody, not because it's the Moody Boys. You're right that it's just one of the other remixes with the pitch wildly shifted, but it's a Bill-and-Jimmy-messing-about thing. To add to the confusion it was on the German "LTTT" remix CD, and the two other tracks on that CD *were* remixed by the Moody Boys, but the Mu D mix wasn't... as far as I know. >Did the Moody >Boys remix this track but only played around with the pitch control? or >are >The Moody Boys actually Bill and Jimmy in disguise? The Moody Boys seems to be just one moody boy, Tony Thorpe. This is *not* Bill and Jimmy- Tony Thorpe has done a selection of stuff in his own right, including other Moody Boys releases, Moody Boys remixes of other artists (including a very good one for Jesus Jones), and a compilation album released in the US a year or two ago of deep breaks (Tipper, Si Begg, etc.), which is also lovely. > > >He claims that both him and >Jimmy worked on the album, completed it, planned to release it as 'The >Orb' >and then had their fallimg out. Apparently Jimmy was the only one with >the >Master tape and allegedly 'removed' Alex's work from it and proceeded to >release it under 'KLF Communications'. Again I'm not sure what to think. >How >can you 'remove' half of the work from a finished peice of music? I think they've both claimed that in the past ('fraid it's not really news), and it could easily be true. With electronic music, it's often quite easy for certain members of a 'band' to create certain noises and track elements- not like a four-piece guitar band who all sit around and bash something out together. Maybe (as with a lot of other duos and bands where more than one person writes the songs) some tracks were clearly 'Alex tracks' and some tracks were clearly 'Jimmy tracks'. > >Q/ What time is love? >A/ Love is timeless, time is timeless, as is pure art, and pure trance. Is that from the rare 12" Pure Bollocks 3? Stuart. -- Stuart Bruce stuart.bruce@aardman.com tel ext 4269 Get fired! Waste all day at: http://www.angrykid.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Parker Subject: (klf) (KLF) Lenny Dee : Build A Fire mix Date: 31 May 2001 14:41:14 +0100 Greetings=20 I had the great fortune last week to stumble across a copy of [Build A = Fire] [on Various: Energy -- DJ's In The House] (lenny dee remix) in a northumbrian secondhand store for =A32 According to the discography this is based on the unreleased version = from the *original* White Room soundtrack LP. It's a very good remix with additional verses not on the released LP and a nice shuffling tribal = house feel. It still sounds good now, up with todays' production sounds and = i can't wait to play it out at some upcoming gigs. =20 What i want to know is does anyone have any info on the hisory of the = track. How it came about perhaps? As it uses unreleased verses were the KLF involved with Lenny's remix? I assume they provided the master. Are = they mates? Or does Lenny have a copy of the original white room = soundtrack? It doesn't say on the CD but i assume that Energy relates to the seminal = 88-90 Energy raves at which Lenny Dee and Frankie Bones DJ'd. Did the KLF = ever appear at any of these Energy raves? Any info would be appreciated. James www.forcetechno.freeuk.com This e-mail message and any attachment(s) are CONFIDENTIAL=20 and may contain legally privileged information. If you are=20 not the intended recipient you should not read, copy,=20 distribute, disclose or otherwise use the information in=20 this e-mail or any attachment(s).=20 Please also e-mail, telephone or fax us immediately and=20 delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. =20 E-mail may be susceptible to data corruption, interception=20 and unauthorised amendment, and we do not accept liability=20 for any such corruption, interception or amendment or the=20 consequences thereof.=20 Please note that any views expressed in this email may be=20 those of the originator and do not necessarily reflect=20 those of this organisation. =20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "PHILIP WARD" <97146999@luton.ac.uk> Subject: (klf) holyshitbatman!!! Date: 31 May 2001 15:08:26 +0100 just checked out that throat singing article, fucking amazing, anyone for a throat singing Komp! >About the throat singing thing - this is indeed real. Here's an article >which explains how it works: >http://www.sciam.com/1999/0999issue/0999levin.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Parker Subject: RE: (klf) rightagainRobin!! Date: 31 May 2001 15:19:24 +0100 >>just checked out that throat singing article, fucking amazing, anyone for a throat singing Komp! I quite agree and the article does go into lots of detail and make it sound very complicated. Hats off to Bill & jim for discovering this singing. Now when's it going to turn up in a hard house trance anthem? This e-mail message and any attachment(s) are CONFIDENTIAL and may contain legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you should not read, copy, distribute, disclose or otherwise use the information in this e-mail or any attachment(s). Please also e-mail, telephone or fax us immediately and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. E-mail may be susceptible to data corruption, interception and unauthorised amendment, and we do not accept liability for any such corruption, interception or amendment or the consequences thereof. Please note that any views expressed in this email may be those of the originator and do not necessarily reflect those of this organisation. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stuart.bruce@aardman.com (Stuart Bruce) Subject: Re: RE: (klf) rightagainRobin!! Date: 31 May 2001 15:39:22 +0100 James.Parker@flgroup.co.uk writes: >Hats off to Bill & jim for discovering this >singing. Call me a git but I really don't think they 'discovered' it, they just happened to use it. I think I'm right in saying that quite a lot of their ambient samples were actually taken from obscure-ish BBC sound effects recordings. Full credit should go to the BBC for having hour after hour after hour after hour of the most diverse and insane sound effects recorded from every corner of the globe. Since the early 70s the BBC have every once in a while put random selections of these sound effects out, at first on vinyl for use in theatre productions (I have some of those... great stuff, shame the vinyl crackling is now louder than the original effect), and in the late 80s and early 90s they put out a bucketload of CDs of sound effects "for camcorder and home movie use" etc. Bands like KLF, Deep Forest, and the Orb, have been able to so-called 'discover' ethnic noises without really leaving their cosy suburban houses. The Art of Noise (and the Orb to some extent) deserve extra credit for going out and recording things themselves instead. Stuart. -- Stuart Bruce stuart.bruce@aardman.com tel ext 4269 Get fired! Waste all day at: http://www.angrykid.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuey and Michelle Subject: Re: (klf) Over The Edge! Date: 01 Jun 2001 02:40:52 +1200 John wrote: > There`s also a good phone call at 2 hours 30 that is all about The > Billboard Liberation Front having recently detourned loads of dotcom > company billboards on the way to silicon valley with stuff like 404 > errors, etc. so is that different to the ones reported in: http://www.billboardliberation.com/actions/new_economy.html cheers -- Stuart Young and Michelle Ardern, say.map@ihug.co.nz 66a Sackville Street, Tel: +64 (0)9 376 8100 Grey Lynn, Auckland, NZ Stuey is webmaster of the New Zealand Green Party: http://www.greens.org.nz/ And webmaster of his own personal website too: http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~stuey/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "c-Row" Subject: Re: (klf) (KLF) First Contact Date: 31 May 2001 16:54:09 +0200 > To add to the confusion it was on the German "LTTT" remix CD, and the two > other tracks on that CD *were* remixed by the Moody Boys, but the Mu D mix > wasn't... as far as I know. The german BlowUp release (INT 825.912) gives the following credits to the tracks... - 808bass version J. Cauty / W. Drummond / T. Thorpe - 120 rock steady J. Cauty / W. Drummond / T. Thorpe - Mu D. etc... J. Cauty / W. Drummond No Tony Thorpe for the third track... I think Stuart is right on this one. _____ Thomas Touzimsky www.klf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stuart.bruce@aardman.com (Stuart Bruce) Subject: Re(2): (klf) (KLF) First Contact Date: 31 May 2001 16:07:08 +0100 c-Row@gmx.de writes: >The german BlowUp release (INT 825.912) gives the following credits to the >tracks... > >- 808bass version J. Cauty / W. Drummond / T. Thorpe >- 120 rock steady J. Cauty / W. Drummond / T. Thorpe >- Mu D. etc... J. Cauty / W. Drummond > >No Tony Thorpe for the third track... I think Stuart is right on this one. However, those are the writing credits, not necessarily the remix credits. Generally, remixers don't get writing credits. For the 808 & 120 versions, Tony Thorpe added so many new elements that he was given a writing credit. Because Tony Thorpe isn't listed for the Mu D version it doesn't necessarily prove that he didn't remix it- I was just under the impression that he didn't remix it. I could be wrong. Stuart. -- Stuart Bruce stuart.bruce@aardman.com tel ext 4269 Get fired! Waste all day at: http://www.angrykid.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "maarten bouwes" Subject: (klf) Re: (KLF) First Contact Date: 31 May 2001 15:42:51 -0000 Hello All, In an answer to billie´s question about the Orb/KLF (...) A friend of mine recently interviewed Alex Patterson (The Orb) for 'Inpress Magazine', Melbourne, Australia, promoting his new album. It was a classic, she opened the interview by asking "So are you really Bill Drummond from The KLF?" he laughed and replied "Good one, but no". Later on in the interview she got back on the topic of his work with Jimmy, and he said something interesting about'Space': He claims that both him and Jimmy worked on the album, completed it, planned to release it as 'The Orb' and then had their falling out. Apparently Jimmy was the only one with the Master tape and allegedly 'removed' Alex's work from it and proceeded to release it under 'KLF Communications'. Again I'm not sure what to think. (...) Ok, here I go: This is part of an interview with Alex Patterson in the Record Collector. (...) The Partnership of "Rockman and Lx" was producing great results, not only with their own work, but elsewhere -the ´Blue Danube Orbital mix´ of the KLF´s 3 am eternal and the promo-only remixes of ´Money´ by Fischerman´s Friends, for example. But, according to Alex, some of those mixes came out in Germany credited as KLF remixes. That was done by another company which neither of us had any control over, and we didn´t see the cover artwork until it was too late. I went mad, Jimmy went mad, Bill went mad -what was the KLF doing with the Orb?. This type of music was meant to be Orb stuff. It led to a lot of confusion, though the only real confusion is knowing who were the members of the Orb at the time the record was released. In fact it was a row over this very question, of linking the KLF with the Orb, that fractured the original Patterson/Cauty pairing. Alex Patterson remembers that "the `Sun Electric` project (O´locco) was recorded at Trancentral, and Jimmy didn´t want to be known on the record as Jimmy Cauty so we called him Gavin Cauty. That was how ridiculous the whole scenario was becoming." Consequently, details of the Orb's activities around this time are a little sketchy. But we do know that an Orb album was recorded by Alex and Jimmy early in 1990, and that Alex departed in April 1990, taking the group name with him. "Space" was then released on KLF Communications, attributed simply to Space, and with only Jimmy credited by name. The split was decided acrimonious. Jimmy and Bill were keen that the Orb should join them on KLF Communications, but Alex felt that it was unfair, as "I felt the Orb was myself, with Jimmy working with me". Jimmy already had the KLF and it appeared that that he wanted the Orb as well. (Alex is at pains to stress that the argument is long forgotten, as he and Jimmy have since completely made up.) The official KLF press release accompanying "Space" claimed that it was originally intended as the Orb's debut album, but was now simply Jimmy's own creation, as he'd removed all of Alex´s contributions. Alex accepts this: "Space was done solely by Jimmy. At the end of the day, he took out all of my ideas and replaced them, or just left them as empty spaces. Alex has got the original version of `Space`, but as far as he is concerned, there´s no need for that to ever see the light of day. Others clamed that there has nothing been removed and that Alex simply isn't credited at all. Hope this helps ;) Maarten _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuart Bruce Subject: Re: (klf) (KLF) Lenny Dee : Build A Fire mix Date: 31 May 2001 18:35:39 +0100 (BST) On Thu 31 May, James Parker wrote: > What i want to know is does anyone have any info on the hisory of the > track. How it came about perhaps? As it uses unreleased verses were > the KLF involved with Lenny's remix? I assume they provided the > master. Are they mates? Or does Lenny have a copy of the original > white room soundtrack? It definitely sounds like the Lenny D remix was done using original master elements, not just a copy of the song. Maybe (just a guess) "Build A Fire" was being considered as the follow-up single to "Kylie Said To Jason". Remixes usually need to get commissioned months in advance, and there can sometimes only be a few months between the releases of singles, so maybe the KLF had commissioned Lenny D to remix "Build A Fire" before "Kylie Said To Jason" was released and didn't perform as well as expected, so the idea of "Build A Fire" as a single was shelved. Not as glamorous a story as them being friends and DJing at the same raves, but possible. Stuart. -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk The Utah Saints Mailing List http://groups.yahoo.com/group/utahsaints/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: RE: (klf) (KLF) Lenny Dee : Build A Fire mix Date: 31 May 2001 12:48:09 -0500 I remember Lenny D also having some sort of mixing/production credit on the White Room along with Mark Stent. I don't have a copy with me so I can't confirm it. I'm not sure if that makes them friends though? On Thu 31 May, James Parker wrote: > What i want to know is does anyone have any info on the hisory of the > track. How it came about perhaps? As it uses unreleased verses were > the KLF involved with Lenny's remix? I assume they provided the > master. Are they mates? Or does Lenny have a copy of the original > white room soundtrack? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: (klf) OT UK Postal Strike Date: 31 May 2001 12:53:37 -0500 Is this true? I haven't heard a thing about it. Some guy is giving me this excuse for his delay of payment. "Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry." D. Banner DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: danhutchins@core.com Subject: Re: (klf) OT UK Postal Strike Date: 31 May 2001 13:17:54 -0500 (CDT) According to what I heard, there was almost a postal strike in London (not outlaying England however), but it was averted in the 11th hour. Dan Hutchins # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick King" Subject: RE: (klf) OT UK Postal Strike Date: 31 May 2001 19:30:32 +0100 There was a postal strike, which started in Watford and then spread to the outer areas (inc. London)... ...There were quite a few post boxes that were either full, or boarded up... Not sure if it's been resolved or not, but there would have definately been a delay in post from the UK... l8rs, Nick ;-) > According to what I heard, there was almost a postal strike in London > (not outlaying England however), but it was averted in the 11th hour. > > Dan Hutchins # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Robinson Subject: Re: (klf) OT UK Postal Strike Date: 31 May 2001 19:38:37 +0100 Nick King wrote: > > There was a postal strike, which started in Watford and then spread to the > outer areas (inc. London)... You are both right - there was an unofficial strike, which was prevented from becoming official at the 11th hour. - Andy_R # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "c-Row" Subject: Re: (klf) (KLF) Lenny Dee : Build A Fire mix Date: 31 May 2001 20:46:27 +0200 > I remember Lenny D also having some sort of mixing/production credit on the > White Room along with Mark Stent. I don't have a copy with me so I can't > confirm it. I'm not sure if that makes them friends though? Credited for breaks on "What Time Is Love"... _____ Thomas Touzimsky www.klf.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf