From: shiota@alc.co.jp (rie shiota) Subject: (klf) hi!! Date: 01 Oct 1998 16:00:41 +0900 hi!! everyone!! im new and i joined this email from today!!! so how are you??? axel, i have no idea but when i go to the record shop or used record shop, i will check them!! im from tokyo so we can find some records what we want sometimes very easily...becsuse there are some good second record shop and used record shop here. anyway, have fun!!! rie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mattias Frid Subject: (klf) A wee question Date: 01 Oct 1998 13:32:11 +0200 Hi all! I'm kinda reorganizing my KLF-mp3s and burning them on CDs and among other things I'm cleaning up the id3 tags. You're probably gonna see more mail like this from me. =) Well, on with the q... I have this song, tagged "Lovekittens - What goes on? (Orbient mix pt 3)" but I can't seem to find it in the discography. I've found the tune "KLF - What goes on? (Ambient mix pt 3)" on LSOM I and also the two earlier pts of it on the WRST demo tapes. So, I guess the mp3 is mislabeled. Am I right? Should it be "KLF - What goes on? (Ambient mix pt 3)"? I really want to get it right on the discs... Cheers! //FRiD Mattias Frid "People say: 'Just read the Framtidsv. 4:313 facts!' Well, I've read them, S-35252 Vaxjo and you can have them back!" SWEDEN - Bill Drummond, The Man - mfrsv95@student.hv.se http://www.frid.home.ml.org # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Elfving, Robert" Subject: Re: (klf) A wee question Date: 01 Oct 1998 12:23:22 +0000 ( ) On Thu, 1 Oct 1998, Mattias Frid wrote: > Well, on with the q... I have this song, tagged > "Lovekittens - What goes on? (Orbient mix pt 3)" but I > can't seem to find it in the discography. I've found the > tune "KLF - What goes on? (Ambient mix pt 3)" on LSOM I > and also the two earlier pts of it on the WRST demo tapes. What Goes On? is a VU cover by the band Lovekittens (not the KLF). The Orb did a remix of that track. Can be found on a 12" on Sheer Records, and also on Auntie Aubrey's Excursions (I think). THere is nothing called "KLF - What Goes On". The LSOM track with that name is just some bludder put together by a certain Mr D. Schalicke (are you still on this list?). He taped it for me about 6 or 7 years ago but then it was called "The Gate". > So, I guess the mp3 is mislabeled. Am I right? Should it be > "KLF - What goes on? (Ambient mix pt 3)"? I really want to > get it right on the discs... The track has nothing to do with the KLF (except that it has samples from the KLF), so why put it on a KLF disc? cheers, Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LiquidW@aol.com Subject: (klf) chill out / orb trade Date: 30 Sep 1998 21:45:47 EDT hey , i love chill out, if anyone has a copy on vinyl...I have two Orb cds i made , and i made extra copies of each. The first contains 9 songs...... toxygene live roskile festival oxbow everglades mix perpetual dawn ultrabass2 andrea parkers asylum u.F. Orb bandulu mix perp dawn solar flare star 6n789 ultrabass2 cocksville usa track#5 from FFWD (i have two of these cds , the second is missing star 6n789 , but includes "plateau of normality " as the last track) the second contains 7 songs and are remixes.... evening star(tangerine dream) doc marten to the right (prong) home(PWEI) sentinel(oldfield) orb vs the grid crapage(front 242) tong poo(yellow magic orchestra) They are both excellent quality .... people on this list have heard, and can vouch for them(people?). Excellent compilations.... heres the offer , either of these cds for any orb albulm on vinyl(goout and buy one! the cd's are worth it!!!!).....i dont really want singles, but if you have a couple I might reconsider. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Xav Subject: Re: (klf) A wee question Date: 01 Oct 1998 23:28:44 +0200 A 12:23 01/10/98 +0000, vous avez =E9crit : > > > > >On Thu, 1 Oct 1998, Mattias Frid wrote: >> Well, on with the q... I have this song, tagged=20 >> "Lovekittens - What goes on? (Orbient mix pt 3)" but I >> can't seem to find it in the discography. I've found the >> tune "KLF - What goes on? (Ambient mix pt 3)" on LSOM I >> and also the two earlier pts of it on the WRST demo tapes. > >What Goes On? is a VU cover by the band Lovekittens (not the KLF). The >Orb did a remix of that track. Can be found on a 12" on Sheer Records, >and also on Auntie Aubrey's Excursions (I think). > >THere is nothing called "KLF - What Goes On". The LSOM track with that >name is just some bludder put together by a certain Mr D. Schalicke >(are you still on this list?). He taped it for me about 6 or 7 years >ago but then it was called "The Gate". The Gate !! Why does this ring a bell ???=20 Isnt it something written on the IGUN CD Single ??? Cheers Xav # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sense Mail" Subject: (klf) 2K - F**K The Millenium CDS cheap! Date: 01 Oct 1998 20:34:46 -0700 Just browsing the Bargain Bin at "Siren Disc" and saw "F**K The Millenium" on CD there for $1.99 www.sirencd.com Thought someone might like to know..... Peace, Scott # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mattias Frid Subject: Re: (klf) A wee question Date: 02 Oct 1998 15:50:51 +0200 >THere is nothing called "KLF - What Goes On". The LSOM track with that >name is just some bludder put together by a certain Mr D. Schalicke >(are you still on this list?). He taped it for me about 6 or 7 years >ago but then it was called "The Gate". If that's the case, then what's the story about this (from the discog.): The KLF: The White Room Soundtrack [1989] unreleased demos [Some tape copies called "The White Room Demos" also include:] 6:20 What Time Is love? (wanderful mix) 8:17 3 a.m. Eternal (demo aug '90 mix) 8:39 It's grim up north [club mix] 6:25 KLF DMC Minimix ----> 2:07 What Goes On? (ambient mix part 1) ----> 2:03 What Goes On? (ambient mix part 2) ----> 6:06 What Goes On? (ambient mix part 3) >The track has nothing to do with the KLF (except that it has samples >from the KLF), so why put it on a KLF disc? Yeah, well if it's an Orb remix (w/ Cauty, then it has something to do with the KLF according to me... Since it is ripped from the LSOM1 then I suppose it isn't the real Lovekittens track, but the one by this Shalicke-character... Who is that, btw? Anyone I should know of? Mattias Frid "People say: 'Just read the Framtidsv. 4:313 facts!' Well, I've read them, S-35252 Vaxjo and you can have them back!" SWEDEN - Bill Drummond, The Man - mfrsv95@student.hv.se http://www.frid.home.ml.org # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christian Fieres Subject: Re: (klf) A wee question Date: 02 Oct 1998 18:57:44 +0200 Hi Xav, >>THere is nothing called "KLF - What Goes On". The LSOM track with that >>name is just some bludder put together by a certain Mr D. Schalicke >>(are you still on this list?). He taped it for me about 6 or 7 years >>ago but then it was called "The Gate". >The Gate !! Why does this ring a bell ??? >Isnt it something written on the IGUN CD Single ??? Not on the German pressing. You mean the grey one? CU Chris -- Christian Fieres, Vogelwaidstr. 2, 63477 Maintal Fax (06181) 431483. W3: http://come.to/c4s # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: anders@algonet.se (Anders Hultman) Subject: Re: (klf) A wee question Date: 02 Oct 1998 22:29:04 +0500 >>THere is nothing called "KLF - What Goes On". The LSOM track with that >>name is just some bludder put together by a certain Mr D. Schalicke >>(are you still on this list?). He taped it for me about 6 or 7 years >>ago but then it was called "The Gate". > >The Gate !! Why does this ring a bell ??? >Isnt it something written on the IGUN CD Single ??? "The Gate" is a KLF album that was planned but never released nor recorded. In May 1990 the boys spent eight days on Jura to record the new album "The Gate". They thought that acid house, the hype of 1989, died too quickly. Thus they planned to do the definitive acid record that would end all other acid records. But they didn't record anything, and spent the days on the beach instead. They filmed themselves on the beach and that footage made the 45 minute video "Waiting". anders http://www.algonet.se/~anders/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Thorne, Chris" Subject: (klf) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 16:31:54 -0400 Date: 02 Oct 1998 14:45:39 -0600 So since all KLF stuff has been deleted would MP3s be legal in this case? Is there a site around that has any rare and hard to get tunes? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Quahogs" Subject: (klf) a KLF sighting (not really!) Date: 02 Oct 1998 17:43:03 -0500 A friend of mine sent me this pic: it's a van for a company in Indianapolis, Indiana (USA) that (I think) does office supplies. http://www.skapunx.ml.org/~k944/klfvan.jpg I included the URL because I didn't want to just email it to everyone (file size, and all that)... I got a kick out of it; I thought you guys might, too. :) --Quahogs-- "Just wait until the dead babies start marching... then you will be eating your words!." --King Fausto, from "The Forbidden Zone" Quahogs http://skapunx.ml.org/~k944 k944@skapunx.ml.org # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "24 Hr. Service Station" Subject: (klf) TWROST is HERE Date: 03 Oct 1998 12:21:43 -0400 Hello list members and faithful believers, It has been awhile since my contacting the list, and I apologize. With a combination of a strenuous workload and uncontrollable pressing plant delays, I have had no new news. Until now. The artwork is PRINTED. / The discs are PRINTED. / TWROST is PRINTED. They are being packaged and sent out, again in no particular order and over the period of the next week. If you have any relocation addresses to give me that you feel I may have overlooked, feel free to send them again. If I replied to you noting that I have changed the information, there is no need for a second reply. If you are sending a new address, or even just a confirmation, please put NEW ADDRESS in the subject line. The packaging looks beautiful, and I hope you are all pleased with the final outcome. audio, Marshall Dickson hour24@bellsouth.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Blake" Subject: (klf) Re: (orb) BUYERS BEWARE Date: 03 Oct 1998 18:03:26 +0100 Have many people on the list ordered Cd's from AB-CD.com and received them o.k.? Just wondered as I've just ordered a couple. Phil. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oscar Fowler" Subject: (klf) Extra copy of: K Foundation Burn a Million Quid Date: 03 Oct 1998 14:45:39 -0700 Hi there, I accidentally ordered two copies of this book, so I thought I'd sell the extra one off to someone on the list. If you're in the US and would like this absolutely new book for $18, send me a note! Thanks, Oscar # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Blake" Subject: Re: (klf) Depeche Mode - mix Date: 03 Oct 1998 18:11:17 +0100 -----Original Message----- >you got the UK version. the usa version from Sire mislabeled Pavlov's Dub >as the Trancentral mix. I bought mine from Esprit mail order some time back and my version doesnt have the sheep on it, its definitely not the version on Marshalls CD. Phil. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: (klf) Policy Of Truth (was Re: Depeche Mode - mix) Date: 04 Oct 1998 18:58:17 -0600 From the discography: [Depeche Mode: Policy Of Truth] [on Depeche Mode: Policy Of Truth] 12": 1990 UK (Mute; P12 BONG 19) [promo] 12": 1990 UK (Mute; L12 BONG 19) CD: 1990 UK (Mute; LCD BONG 19) 12": 1990 US (Sire; ??) [mislabeled "pavlov's dub"] CD5: 1990 JP (Mute; ALCB 110) 5:55 Policy of Truth (trancentral mix) [KLF: remix. This mix is *not* on the US CD5, which mislabels the "pavlov's dub" mix as the "trancentral mix".] -- Lazlo Nibble | "There's no moral, Uncle Remus, just lazlo@swcp.com | random acts of meaningless violence." http://www.swcp.com/lazlo | -- Michael O'Donoghue # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Re: (klf) A wee question Date: 04 Oct 1998 19:00:32 -0600 On Fri, Oct 02, 1998 at 03:50:51PM +0200, Mattias Frid wrote: > >THere is nothing called "KLF - What Goes On". The LSOM track with that > >name is just some bludder put together by a certain Mr D. Schalicke > >(are you still on this list?). > > If that's the case, then what's the story about this (from the discog.): > > The KLF: The White Room Soundtrack > [1989] unreleased demos > > [Some tape copies called "The White Room Demos" also include:] > 6:20 What Time Is love? (wanderful mix) > 8:17 3 a.m. Eternal (demo aug '90 mix) > 8:39 It's grim up north [club mix] > 6:25 KLF DMC Minimix > ----> 2:07 What Goes On? (ambient mix part 1) > ----> 2:03 What Goes On? (ambient mix part 2) > ----> 6:06 What Goes On? (ambient mix part 3) Any "White Room demo" tape which includes the club mix of "It's Grim Up North" and a DMC DJ mix is pretty suspect to start with. I would assume that tapes of this description were put together by a fan somewhere along the line, presumably the same one who cobbled "What Goes On?" together. -- Lazlo Nibble | "There's no moral, Uncle Remus, just lazlo@swcp.com | random acts of meaningless violence." http://www.swcp.com/lazlo | -- Michael O'Donoghue # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "24 Hr. Service Station" Subject: (klf) Bootleg LP of 1987 Date: 04 Oct 1998 23:58:57 -0400 Check out what this one sold for: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=32575223 -- audio, Marshall Dickson 24 Hr. Service Station http://24hr.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ulrik Brandt Hansen Subject: Re: (klf) A wee question Date: 05 Oct 1998 12:10:23 +0200 Jeg Skal Ha' Mer' Str=F8m!! > >>(are you still on this list?). He taped it for me about 6 or 7 years > >>ago but then it was called "The Gate". > > > >The Gate !! Why does this ring a bell ??? > >Isnt it something written on the IGUN CD Single ??? It's also mentioned as some of the "Other Data", "The Gate Is Open", wasn't it on some of the Pure Trance, of course there also is "the Technogate" Ulrik # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ulrik Brandt Hansen Subject: (klf) Drummond-produced album with Zodiac Mindwarp Date: 05 Oct 1998 12:57:49 +0200 Hi I've just pick up a copy of an album called "Tattoed Beat Messiah" by Zodiac Mindwarp And The Love Reaction (features Backseat Education and more). I don't have it with me right now, so I cant tell when it was released. It's produced by Drummond, and on the innersleeve the is a text alot like "Bad Wisdom", referring to Arcbishop Gimpo of Plummels (or something like that) and Kingboy Drummond among others. The album is rockmusic (like backseat education on the mp3-collection). Why ain't this, and the other Drummond-produced things ("Crocodiles" by Echo and The Bunnymen and "Killimanjaro" by Teardrop Explodes) mentioned in the Discography. PS: Tattoed Beat Messiah was also the name of an danish artist at COMA-records, same label as KLF released on in DK Ulrik=20 Jeg Skal Ha' Mer' Str=F8m!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam J Weitzman Subject: (klf) Re: AB-CD (was: BUYERS BEWARE) Date: 05 Oct 1998 09:20:44 -0400 Phil Blake wrote: > Have many people on the list ordered Cd's from AB-CD.com > and received them o.k.? I have. I've ordered from them three times and have received good service all three times. One time they sent me the wrong CD, but they took it back without any problem and credited me not only for the CD, but also the postage it cost me to get it back to them. They are also one of the few places that make a distinction between in-stock stuff and stuff they have to order. Unfortunately, the language they use is confusing sometimes ("Last Copies" means they have it in stock but not very many copies, whereas "Currently Available" means they probably have to order it), but they do have a page where they explain it, so you can always look it up if you forget. Another problem is that their website is sometimes very slow when doing artist searches, and on some occasions, the "shopping cart" messes up and deletes things that you've put in it already. They are nice on the phone. I haven't tried emailing them with a problem, so I can't vouch for that. I've gotten some very cool stuff from them. Their prices are a little high sometimes, but you can get some good deals if you look. Not an employee, just a satisfied customer. -- Adam J Weitzman NewsEdge Corporation This space intentionally left http://www.newsedge.com blank. Except for this part. http://www.newspage.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andy R." Subject: Re: (klf) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 16:31:54 -0400 Date: 05 Oct 1998 19:55:59 +0100 Thorne, Chris wrote: > > So since all KLF stuff has been deleted would MP3s be legal in this > case? No. Copyright does not depend of the 'availability' of the music, it lasts for a fixed length of time (in the UK, until 70 years after the author's death, other jurisdictions vary). Anyway, the deletion applies only to the territories the KLF themselves sold the records too, so for example, TVT in America did not delete releases, so I can walk into a record shop and buy the US version of chill out, or one of the pile of IGUN singles that turned up recently in Wardour St., or the Timelords CD-v thingy, etc. if I know where to look. On the other hand, I'd be surprised if the KLF were not aware of the quite widely advertised bootlegs & MP3 sites that this list has spawned, and lawyers have conspicuosly failed to descend so far.... We did get ticked off about the Kalevala compilation though, as Mr Virtanen's desision to release the compilation album may be swayed by most of the potential audience buying the damn thing on bootleg without the original even appearing... - andy R. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Re: (klf) Drummond-produced album with Zodiac Mindwarp Date: 05 Oct 1998 12:58:57 -0600 On Mon, Oct 05, 1998 at 12:57:49PM +0200, Ulrik Brandt Hansen wrote: > Why ain't this, and the other Drummond-produced things ("Crocodiles" by > Echo and The Bunnymen and "Killimanjaro" by Teardrop Explodes) mentioned > in the Discography. Because nobody has bothered to send me information on them... -- Lazlo Nibble | "There's no moral, Uncle Remus, just lazlo@swcp.com | random acts of meaningless violence." http://www.swcp.com/lazlo | -- Michael O'Donoghue # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Thorne, Chris" Subject: (klf) Doctorin' The Tardis video Date: 05 Oct 1998 15:24:28 -0400 Visit here to see the video for Doctorin' The Tardis http://www.djtodd.com/audio.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mark reed Subject: (klf) U F OFF Date: 12 Sep 1998 13:22:09 +0100 The new Orb compilation double CD "U.F.OFF" contains two mixes of "Huge Ever Growing.." (ordital dance mix) + (radio version), mixed by LX and Jim Cauty at Trancentral. As far as I know this is the first time these mixes have been widely available for a few years. What's this Kalevela compilation anyway? -- mark reed # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Re: (klf) U F OFF Date: 05 Oct 1998 15:13:20 -0600 On Sat, Sep 12, 1998 at 01:22:09PM +0100, mark reed wrote: > The new Orb compilation double CD "U.F.OFF" contains two mixes of "Huge > Ever Growing.." (ordital dance mix) + (radio version), mixed by LX and > Jim Cauty at Trancentral. > > As far as I know this is the first time these mixes have been widely > available for a few years. This is the first time in a while for the orbital dance mix, but the "radio version" is just a 59-second snippet. :-) Lots more info at www.theorb.com. I've heard that the old Loving You CD5s may have been repressed, though... -- Lazlo Nibble | "There's no moral, Uncle Remus, just lazlo@swcp.com | random acts of meaningless violence." http://www.swcp.com/lazlo | -- Michael O'Donoghue # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Thorne, Chris" Subject: (klf) Doctorin' The Tardis video Date: 05 Oct 1998 15:24:28 -0400 Visit here to see the video for Doctorin' The Tardis http://www.djtodd.com/audio.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phillip Kasiaras Subject: (klf) Space CD & 3 A.M. Eternal Promo CD auction. Date: 05 Oct 1998 19:54:17 -0400 (EDT) Greetings all! I've got a copy of the Space CD (Space CD1) I'd like to auction off. It is near mint (several light scratches and marks-I'll gaurantee it plays fine) and is an original CD issue! (Not a bootleg or a CD-r...) Minimum bid is $50 American. Auction ends October 11th. I'm also accepting offers for a Klf CD Single '3 A.M. Eternal'. It is a US Promo cat# ASCD-2230 on Arista (of course). CD has a few light marks & the sleeve has a little curl in it (from where it got crimped from the box). Tracks are: Radio Freedom Edit 3:13, Live at the S.S.L. 3:36, Live at the S.S.L. (Extended) 5:50, Rankin' Club Version 4:34. Not sure what this is worth... Best offer as of October 11th. Please notify me at phil@toms.net Thanks! Philip P.S.> I have Klf & JAMs vinyl also, but no list yet. Send me your want-lists perhaps? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gmw@airmail.net Subject: (klf) 1987 cassette Date: 05 Oct 1998 12:26:56 -0500 Hi, In June of '87 my sister made a trip to England. While there, she purchased a Justified Ancients of Mu Mu "1987 What the Fuck's Going On" cassette solely because it had 1987 emblazoned on the front. She'd never heard the group and didn't care for the music and all these years kept the tape only for sentimental reasons. Recently, she gave said tape to me. I knew of the JAMs and KLF but it wasn't until I looked them up in a music book I have that I became aware of the album's scarcity. The reason I am posting to this list is that I am looking to sell it and I'm trying to determine how much it might be worth. Is there anyone out there in KLF land who can help? I would appreciate any info anyone might provide. BTW, the cassette has only been played a handful of times and is in excellent conditon. Thanks in advance, Greg gmw@airmail.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Lindgren" Subject: Re: (klf) U F OFF Date: 06 Oct 1998 00:13:49 PDT Hello everybody, >The new Orb compilation double CD "U.F.OFF" contains two mixes of "Huge>Ever Growing.." (ordital dance mix) + (radio version), mixed by LX and>Jim Cauty at Trancentral. Is this an ordinary commercially available release? Or is this a hard to find item? - david _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ David Lindgren phone (+46) 070 783 92 27 Lockropsv.7 " 0709 521 512 S-811 37 Sandviken SWEDEN davli44@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Wouter" Subject: (klf) lsomii in win98 plus!! Date: 06 Oct 1998 11:05:56 +0200 Hi There, Yesterday I tried the luxe cd-player in win98 plus! I downloaded some= albuminformation and even LSOMII was supported! Wouter # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RUN DMC Subject: (klf) MP3's???? Date: 06 Oct 1998 11:17:55 GMT+0 > On the other hand, I'd be surprised if the KLF were not aware of the > quite widely advertised bootlegs & MP3 sites that this list has spawned, > and lawyers have conspicuosly failed to descend so far.... Could someone tell me what are MP3's? Are they MPEG movie files or something? If they are movie files does anyone know of a site you can download them from? E-Mail D.Forster1@UCLAN.AC.UK THE.KLF@USA.NET Call Sign M1 DKZ JOTA (Jamboree On The Air) - The Beacons, Frodsham Hill 17-18 October 1998 - Nr The View Nightclub # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Elfving, Robert" Subject: Re: (klf) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 16:31:54 -0400 Date: 06 Oct 1998 10:36:41 +0000 ( ) On Mon, 5 Oct 1998, Andy R. wrote: > We did get ticked off about the Kalevala compilation though, as Mr > Virtanen's desision to release the compilation album may be swayed by > most of the potential audience buying the damn thing on bootleg without > the original even appearing... Afaik, there aren't any "bootlegs" around, I only have a CDR of it. If they had released the original album on schedule (a year ago) they wouldn't have had a problem with this... Lazy bastards... Does Kalevala even still exist as a label? cheers, Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ulrik Brandt Hansen Subject: Re: (klf) U F OFF Date: 06 Oct 1998 14:22:26 +0200 Jeg Skal Ha' Mer' Str=F8m!! On Tue, 6 Oct 1998, David Lindgren wrote: >=20 >=20 >=20 > Hello everybody, >=20 > >The new Orb compilation double CD "U.F.OFF" contains two mixes of=20 > "Huge>Ever Growing.." (ordital dance mix) + (radio version), mixed by LX= =20 > and>Jim Cauty at Trancentral.=20 >=20 > Is this an ordinary commercially available release? >=20 > Or is this a hard to find item? I was in a Danish store today, and they told me it was set to release about 12/10 i think (dont know about there more developped countries in the world, it might already be out) Ulrik # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: erik Subject: Re: (klf) MP3's???? Date: 06 Oct 1998 15:03:08 +0200 (MET DST) At 11:17 06.10.98 GMT+0, RUN DMC wrote: >Could someone tell me what are MP3's? MPEG 1 Layer 3 audio files. The are virtually CD quality (at least to my ears) and they are about 1 megabyte per minute. To play them you need an .mp3 player, I suggest WinAmp (available free on the internet for download) :-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Erik@xdollarx.com | http://www.stud.uni-hannover.de/~gander/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andy R." Subject: Re: (klf) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 16:31:54 -0400 Date: 06 Oct 1998 16:10:43 +0100 Elfving, Robert wrote: > Afaik, there aren't any "bootlegs" around, I only have a CDR of it. That's a bootleg in my dictionary! > If they had released the original album on schedule (a year ago) they > wouldn't have had a problem with this... Lazy bastards... Is that really an excuse for ripping them off? I believe they were waiting to see how well the 7"s sold before deciding on the quantity of albums to manufacture... > Does Kalevala even still exist as a label? I hope so... there is still an unreleased mix of "gimpo" to hope for, which m/a/d has referred to in the past. Mr Virtanen will set up a branch in the Congo in the future? :-) - andy R. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Culf Subject: (klf) IMPORTANT: Mancentral Sound Archive threatened by IFPI (fwd) Date: 06 Oct 1998 15:55:30 +0100 (WET DST) Hi all, Please find enclosed an IMPORTANT email with regard to the Mancentral Sound Archive, which I am forwarding on behalf of its administrator. Please direct replies either to the list, or to jammin@quality.gconnect.com. Please DON'T reply directly to me. And be aware that Jamm!n is NOT on the list, so he won't see any information you mail there. Forwards ever, backwards never ... Culf. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Hi people. Pay close attention; this affects YOU on more than one level. I was today informed of a letter received by the people who kindly host quality.gconnect.com. This letter, purportedly from the International Federation of the Phonographic Industry (a new one on me, but evidently some kind of MCPS-like fascist organisation), complains that I am "engaged in the unauthorised reproduction and supply of sound files derived from commercially published phonograms created and owned by our Member Companies." It's written in both a "For Your Information" style and a pseudo-threatening tone, which is quite bizarre. There are a few basic errors of grammar and punctuation. The person and address it was sent to are long out-of-date. And it's signed/scribbled by one "Dr. Nils Bortloff, Legal Adviser"[sic] Notwithstanding this, given that the IFPS states on their own website that they have a mission to track down MP3 sites and "close them down", this appears to be a genuine letter. However, it's far too vague. It insists that the law is being broken without pointing to specific examples; it insists that its members' copyright(s) are being infringed without naming those members or giving evidence of their copyright. So it holds no legal force and its threats are toothless. So I'm not too worried. However, it does raise some issues and questions which need to be addressed. 1. How did they find it? As most of you are well aware, I've had various security mechanisms in place on Mancentral for a very long time now. The letter explicitly points to the Sounds directory as being the offender, but that takes knowledge and a bit of savvy -- more than I would expect to exist in such an institution -- to track it down. UNLESS, of course, the path to follow has become common knowledge because one or more people forgot that CARELESS TALK COSTS LIVES. It is almost CERTAIN that the List is being monitored by one or more hostile entities, known collectively as THEM. THEY are watching every word you type, so THINK before you give away information. 2. What now? (Short-term) I've removed the Sounds from Mancentral. This isn't because of any pressure, but simply because the guys at gconnect have been good to me and I don't want to cause them unnecessary hassle. Meanwhile I'll be conferring with them as to the best way forward. My intention is, if at all possible, to stand and fight. 3. What now? (Long-term) Access will have to be tightened further. Also it may be necessary to stop distributing any recording which was licenced to a major record label in another country, to anyone from that country. This, of course, will create a rather ridiculous situation not unlike America's brain-dead export restrictions on encryption. The alternative is to stop carrying all licenced commercial releases altogether, and only stock tracks which were never released, or which were only released on KLF Communications. Even then, some tracks may still be contentious because they were published by Warner-Chappell, though how far their rights would extend seems quite a thorny issue. (The letter, as I said, is incredibly vague and hence I don't know whether they are acting in the interests of record companies or publishers, or both.) What I need now is some assistance. Anyone who is aware of recent test cases regarding the application of copyright law to the internet. Anyone who knows more about the IFPI. Anyone who understands the twisted world of music publishing. Help me build up some ammunition. Also current contact details for Bill (yeah right), Gimpo, Scott, Don Lucknowe KSC, anyone else intimitately involved, would be appreciated. All power to the people, and ban the fucking bomb. Jamm!n [By all means discuss this on the List, but remember I'm not on it, so please email me directly at jammin@quality.gconnect.com or quaestor@mono.org if you have any help to impart. Thankyou.] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: (klf) Re: IMPORTANT: Mancentral Sound Archive threatened by IFPI (fwd) Date: 06 Oct 1998 11:21:46 -0600 > Notwithstanding this, given that the IFPS states on their own website that > they have a mission to track down MP3 sites and "close them down", this > appears to be a genuine letter. However, it's far too vague. It insists > that the law is being broken without pointing to specific examples; it > insists that its members' copyright(s) are being infringed without naming > those members or giving evidence of their copyright. So it holds no legal > force and its threats are toothless. This is incorrect. Copyright law in its current worldwide form (thanks to the Berne convention) protects all works in all media, as soon as they're created and for at least as long as the lifetime of the creator, regardless of whether any formal copyright registration or notification takes place, unless that work is explicitly released by its creator into the public domain. Unless you have formal permission from the person or entity holding the copyright on a work, you are not allowed to make copies of that work outside of a very small set of circumstances (which definitely does *not* include making those copies available to the public on the Internet). Penalties for copyright violation in just about every country on this list range from opening up the violator to lawsuits from the copyright holder to (in the US, under certain circumstances that explicitly *do* include making copies available to the public on the Internet) heavy fines and jail time. There are grey areas in copyright law, but online MP3 archives aren't among them. If you don't have explicit permission to redistribute a work, you do not have the right to make copies of it -- you are violating the copyright on that work and you are are therefore violating the law. (Flames to /dev/null, please. I'm just explaining the law, not saying I agree with it.) -- Lazlo Nibble | "There's no moral, Uncle Remus, just lazlo@swcp.com | random acts of meaningless violence." http://www.swcp.com/lazlo | -- Michael O'Donoghue # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Re: (klf) U F OFF Date: 06 Oct 1998 11:24:55 -0600 On Tue, Oct 06, 1998 at 12:13:49AM -0700, David Lindgren wrote: > >The new Orb compilation double CD "U.F.OFF" contains two mixes of > >"Huge Ever Growing.." (ordital dance mix) + (radio version), mixed by LX > > andJim Cauty at Trancentral. > > Is this an ordinary commercially available release? > Or is this a hard to find item? Ordinary release, out yesterday in the UK and early next month in the US. The 2CD is limited, but it's only got the 0:59 edit of the radio version anyway. -- Lazlo Nibble | "There's no moral, Uncle Remus, just lazlo@swcp.com | random acts of meaningless violence." http://www.swcp.com/lazlo | -- Michael O'Donoghue # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andy R." Subject: Re: (klf) Re: IMPORTANT: Mancentral Sound Archive threatened by IFPI (fwd) Date: 06 Oct 1998 19:13:37 +0100 First a disclaimer... I'm only familiar with British law (and I'm not a lawyer), so your milage may vary... It's important to know which jurisdiction Mancentral is in... The same one as IFPI? The same one as Gconnect? The same one as the physical server the files are on? Lazlo Nibble wrote: > Penalties for copyright violation in just about every country on this > list range from opening up the violator to lawsuits from the copyright > holder to (in the US, under certain circumstances that explicitly *do* > include making copies available to the public on the Internet) heavy > fines and jail time. the key phrase here is "the copyright holder"... If the IFPS is just a general body, unconnected with the copyright holder they cannot themselves invervene under UK law, the most they could do is either 1) inform the UK police that they believe a crime is being committed, and it would be up to the crown prosecution service to decide if a prosecution is in the public interest. 2) inform the copyright holders that they believe, etc. and it would be up to the copyright holder to decide as above > There are grey areas in copyright law, but online MP3 archives aren't > among them. If you don't have explicit permission to redistribute a > work, you do not have the right to make copies of it -- you are > violating the copyright on that work and you are are therefore > violating the law. Actually, there is one *small* grey area... it could be argued that the person that is downloading is the violator, not the source itself... this defence was used by a German ISP charged with the distribution of porn via newsgroups recently. > (Flames to /dev/null, please. I'm just explaining the law, not saying > I agree with it.) Ditto. - Andy R. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andy R." Subject: (klf) Copyright problems Date: 06 Oct 1998 19:40:03 +0100 Here's some more thoughts 1. You can legally put "Ivu Nyo" or whatever it was called from 1987 on the site, for a start. This track is the work of just the KLF (unlike most of 1987!) and it clearly states on the label of 1987 that the work is liberated from all copyright. It would make IFPI look VERY stupid if this came to court! It might be worth putting up a dummy mp3 or two (just yourself talking or strumming a guitar aimlessly) and put them up. If IFPI complain about these, you would have a VERY strong countersuit against them for passing themselves off as copyright owners... catch them at their own game! 2. I guess the page was found through a web crawler, rather than a 'leak' as such. Is this possible/likely? I guess a web search may just have pulled up the "there is no MP3" message and then they manually looked for the music? 3. Write to IFPI requesting: a) list of the files they are referring to (which they probably won't have) b) proof that they are bonafide representatives of the copyright holders of the music (which they might not have) c) details of the juristiction under which they making this accusation (it will be a legal nightmare if the jurisdictions don't match, and they will know this). d) threaten to "take legal advice" about this "harassment" by them if they do not provide a, b & c above within 28 days - a dummy threat but they might back down. good luck... - Andy R. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nick Subject: Re: (klf) Re: IMPORTANT: Mancentral Sound Archive threatened by IFPI Date: 06 Oct 1998 20:27:18 +0100 (BST) Again, a disclaimer. I'm only spouting opinion, with no legal background/basis... > It's important to know which jurisdiction Mancentral is in... > The same one as IFPI? > The same one as Gconnect? > The same one as the physical server the files are on? I deduce from the info provided that as far as this question goes, the IFPI believe this case to be their moral jurisdiction, but can have no legal one as they are an international body who may/may not operate on the basis of UK law. It is possible that this body is infact a federation of bodies such as the MCPS which has been formed to "police" the geographically boundless nooks of the Net on behalf of national organisations. However, for such a body to have legal jurisdiction to bring lawsuits defies belief, therefore we can assume that the most they cold do is to bring this to the attention of either the UK police/CPS, or to MCPS, or the the copyright holders themselves. However, if this were the case, the question begs, why not do just this and and report it, instead of trying to follow it up themselves! I recall recent cases involving Demon, and Compuserve (I fink) where the ISp (here GConnect) was purportedly held to be responsible for the content of it's servers. It would be a good thing to know whether this held sway with the courts. Another thing would be to check Net sites of FACT (Federation Against Copyright Theft) and the various UK govt sites to review our knowledge of copyright law. If legal copyright is still held by "The KLF" etc then can we suppose that consent to copying and redistributing material is given in Bill/Jimmy's discalimer of copyright? > > Actually, there is one *small* grey area... it could be argued that the > person that is downloading is the violator, not the source itself... > this defence was used by a German ISP charged with the distribution of > porn via newsgroups recently. I can't see this happening in the UK as to actually physically get the data copied and stored onto the servers requires the material to be encoded and stored, and hence copied. This brings us to the issue of UK work (subject to Bill/Jimmy's discalimer?) versues the rights of eg Arista, TVT, etc. One avenue to pursue would be that if all the mp3 were sources from CDs, etc which were produced in the UK then they are surely not subject to the copyright laws of other countries. The only possible offence would lie with the person downloading the materal in other countires, which, as Andy pointed out is a grey area. Or is it? Surely they are then "Collecting" UK material which is not subject to the national laws of foreign bodies. Other issues I can see could relate to artwork? Lyrics? and of course texts? NB. All the above is purely opinion and has no basis in law. cheers, NIk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ("KLF archivist-of-information") Nick Gilmour E-Mail: N.W.Gilmour@selc.hull.ac.uk WWW: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dgilmour/nick.htm KLF FAQ: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dgilmour/klf-faq.txt ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andy R." Subject: (klf) Copyright problems Date: 06 Oct 1998 19:40:03 +0100 Here's some more thoughts 1. You can legally put "Ivu Nyo" or whatever it was called from 1987 on the site, for a start. This track is the work of just the KLF (unlike most of 1987!) and it clearly states on the label of 1987 that the work is liberated from all copyright. It would make IFPI look VERY stupid if this came to court! It might be worth putting up a dummy mp3 or two (just yourself talking or strumming a guitar aimlessly) and put them up. If IFPI complain about these, you would have a VERY strong countersuit against them for passing themselves off as copyright owners... catch them at their own game! 2. I guess the page was found through a web crawler, rather than a 'leak' as such. Is this possible/likely? I guess a web search may just have pulled up the "there is no MP3" message and then they manually looked for the music? 3. Write to IFPI requesting: a) list of the files they are referring to (which they probably won't have) b) proof that they are bonafide representatives of the copyright holders of the music (which they might not have) c) details of the juristiction under which they making this accusation (it will be a legal nightmare if the jurisdictions don't match, and they will know this). d) threaten to "take legal advice" about this "harassment" by them if they do not provide a, b & c above within 28 days - a dummy threat but they might back down. good luck... - Andy R. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Blake" Subject: (klf) Cyber Sadism Live Date: 06 Oct 1998 21:20:55 +0100 Has anyone bought this CD from AB_CD.com? Home, Stewart. Featuring Jimmy Cauty of THE KLF. What The ***K is it??? Phil. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ulrik Brandt Hansen Subject: Re: (klf) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 16:31:54 -0400 Date: 07 Oct 1998 10:06:49 +0200 Jeg Skal Ha' Mer' Str=F8m!! On Tue, 6 Oct 1998, Andy R. wrote: > > If they had released the original album on schedule (a year ago) they > > wouldn't have had a problem with this... Lazy bastards...=20 >=20 > Is that really an excuse for ripping them off? I believe they were > waiting to see how well the 7"s sold before deciding on the quantity of > albums to manufacture...=20 Wouldn't we all buy the original if it came out (I personly hate all that= =20 bottlegshite, but sometimes it's the only way to get hold of the songs). Ulrik # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: erik Subject: (klf) Kalevala (was: Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 16:31:54 -0400) Date: 07 Oct 1998 10:47:06 +0200 (MET DST) At 16:10 06.10.98 +0100, Andy R. wrote: >Elfving, Robert wrote: >> Afaik, there aren't any "bootlegs" around, I only have a CDR of it. >That's a bootleg in my dictionary! > >> If they had released the original album on schedule (a year ago) they >> wouldn't have had a problem with this... Lazy bastards... >Is that really an excuse for ripping them off? I believe they were >waiting to see how well the 7"s sold before deciding on the quantity of >albums to manufacture... [...] They wanted to release the album as soon as all 500 copies of each 7" were sold. Obviously there are not 500 people on this list, or at least not enough willing to buy them. You could argue it is thier own fault, not releasing CD singles instead of vinyl which without a doubt would have enhanced their sales, but still. I think they will abandon the project without ever releasing the album because of the poor single sales. Unless of course we would buy them all up... Maybe they would even release the 12" version of Gimpo by Gimpo... :-) erik (who has all the Kalevala 7"s) PS: my most apologies to Andy for my long term vanishing -- your books and CDs will be on their way back to you soon :) Same apologies to all the others (tim, thorsten, ...) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Erik@xdollarx.com | http://www.stud.uni-hannover.de/~gander/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Blake" Subject: (klf) CHILL OUT TRIBUTE CD Date: 07 Oct 1998 20:04:45 +0100 Does anyone have any details of that Chill Out tribute album that was mentioned a while back? I think it was on Sabotage Records. I want to get hold of a copy but cant find it anywhere. its the one with wolves instead of sheep on the front. A catalogue number or barcode would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Phil. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (klf) CHILL OUT TRIBUTE CD Date: 07 Oct 1998 14:08:12 -0500 (CDT) www.forcedexposure.com has this. Great record store. I suggest brwosing by label. -daniel On Wed, 7 Oct 1998, Phil Blake wrote: > > Does anyone have any details of that Chill Out tribute album that was > mentioned a while back? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RUN DMC Subject: Re: (klf) IMPORTANT: Mancentral Sound Archive threatened by Date: 07 Oct 1998 20:26:15 GMT+0 > What I need now is some assistance. Anyone who is aware of recent test > cases regarding the application of copyright law to the internet. Anyone > who knows more about the IFPI. Anyone who understands the twisted world > of music publishing. Help me build up some ammunition. Also current > contact details for Bill (yeah right), Gimpo, Scott, Don Lucknowe KSC, > anyone else intimitately involved, would be appreciated. DISCLAIMER - PLEASE NOTE AS THIS ADVICE IS FREE I CANNOT GUARANTEE ANY LEGAL CORRECTIVNESS. SO IF IT'S WRONG AND YOU GET SUED DON'T COMPLAIN TO ME. On most emulator web sites to get round the copyright law what they do is put on the web site the following lines :- "For Educational Purposes Only." "To use these roms on this site you must have the original games/machines" "If you do not own the original machines/games please delete them within 24 hours" "I cannot be held responsible if you download these images and are caught without the original games/machines" I suppose you could modify some of the lines above and use it for the MP3's and just make sure the MP3's you have on the site you do have original soundtracks to go with them. With copyright law you ARE allowed to make a backup copy for yourself of anything you may have. BTW. Did you know you shouldn't record things of TV/Radio (Why bother inventing the VCR?!?!? :-} ) E-Mail D.Forster1@UCLAN.AC.UK THE.KLF@USA.NET Call Sign M1 DKZ JOTA (Jamboree On The Air) - The Beacons, Frodsham Hill 17-18 October 1998 - Nr The View Nightclub # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: (klf) Aubrey mixe Date: 07 Oct 1998 14:31:56 -0500 For those who are still interested I am keeping the bidding open until this Friday. I'm sorry if I haven't been keeping up with it better, but things can get very busy on my end. The highest bid is $50. The Orb: Aubry Mixes: The Ultraworld Excursions US CD (Caroline CAROL 1717-2) "Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry." D. Banner DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam J Weitzman Subject: Re: (klf) IMPORTANT: Mancentral Sound Archive threatened by Date: 07 Oct 1998 15:54:16 -0400 RUN DMC wrote: > With copyright law you ARE allowed to make a backup copy > for yourself of anything you may have. Putting them up on a public web site certainly does *not* qualify as making a backup copy "for yourself." If you are making something available for free, you can absolutely "be held responsible" for other people taking advantage. That's exactly what the No Electronic Theft Act (or whatever the heck it was called) was designed for, and it will eventually become part of whatever international laws they're working on in this area. I would suggest that your advice is rather terrible advice and could get someone in a lot of trouble. > BTW. Did you know you shouldn't record things of TV/Radio (Why > bother inventing the VCR?!?!? :-} ) In the US, the Supreme Court ruled that time-shifting (which is what you are doing when you record a television program on your VCR) is a legitimate "fair use" of copyrighted material, and is therefore perfectly legal. So that's why. :-) What little I know about the IFPI is that they are legit, and they have ways of nailing you. I don't know how effective their methods are, but I would heed their warnings. -- Adam J Weitzman NewsEdge Corporation Is it supposed to http://www.newsedge.com sound like that? http://www.newspage.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mark turner <106713.454@compuserve.com> Subject: RE: (klf) CHILL OUT TRIBUTE CD Date: 07 Oct 1998 16:36:20 -0400 If you want to get hold of a copy, you could try e-mailing Sabotage recor= ds direct at: sabotage@silverserver.co.at. Direct your mail to Rob. I'm not sure who he is in the organisation, but= he is very helpful. I believe that the catalogue reference for Chill Out= was REC 30 CD. Mark Turner 106713.454@compuserve.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: (klf) RE: Aubrey mixes Date: 07 Oct 1998 15:48:58 -0500 Bidding is currently at $55 Don "Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry." D. Banner DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Don Gagen > Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 1998 2:32 PM > To: 'orb@xmission.com'; 'klf@xmission.com' > Subject: Aubrey mixe > > For those who are still interested I am keeping the bidding open > until this Friday. I'm sorry if I haven't been keeping up with it better, > but things can get very busy on my end. The highest bid is $50. > > The Orb: Aubry Mixes: The Ultraworld Excursions US CD (Caroline > CAROL 1717-2) > > > > > "Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry." > D. Banner > > DONALD D GAGEN > MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM > ENSEMBLE STUDIOS > http://www.ensemblestudios.com > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Gause Subject: Re: (klf) CHILL OUT TRIBUTE CD Date: 07 Oct 1998 14:17:17 -0500 Can anyone give me a quick rundown of this disk? Is it ambient-ish or (as I seem to remember) something completely different? ---brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Axel Bock Subject: Re: (klf) CHILL OUT TRIBUTE CD Date: 07 Oct 1998 23:07:18 +0200 (CEST) On Wed, 7 Oct 1998, Phil Blake wrote: >Does anyone have any details of that Chill Out tribute album that was >mentioned a while back? I think it was on Sabotage Records. I want to get >hold of a copy but cant find it anywhere. its the one with wolves instead of >sheep on the front. A catalogue number or barcode would be greatly >appreciated. are the tracks on the album from the klf or from some "tributers"? sorry, i've never heard of that album... :] ciao, axel. -- Why marry a virgin? If she wasn't good enough for the rest of them then she isn't good enough for you. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Culf Subject: Re: (klf) IMPORTANT: Mancentral Sound Archive threatened by Date: 07 Oct 1998 22:18:56 +0100 (BST) > DISCLAIMER - PLEASE NOTE AS THIS ADVICE IS FREE I CANNOT GUARANTEE > ANY LEGAL CORRECTIVNESS. SO IF IT'S WRONG AND YOU GET SUED DON'T > COMPLAIN TO ME. Here's some more free advice. If you don't know what you're talking about, butt out. This is a serious issue asking for informed comment, not idle speculation. The Arcade games example is probably not a bad comparison, especially considering that most of the games are just not available any more. However, KLF material IS still available (in and from territories other than the UK), so not really applicable here. Besides, such a disclaimer on video game ROMs probably doesn't have much legal weight, whether its there or no, you're still allowing public access to copyrighted material when you don't own the rights for such distribution. I don't know if the case has been tested yet (do the existing ROM manufacturers really care much any more about that old stuff?). > With copyright law you ARE allowed to make a backup copy for yourself > of anything you may have. Like Adam says, that's hardly the situation here. Making a copy for yourself does not mean making a copy for yourself that anyone else can also obtain, and copy for themselves. That's tantamount to distribution. > BTW. Did you know you shouldn't record things of TV/Radio (Why bother > inventing the VCR?!?!? :-} ) You're allowed to record things for personal use and preserve them on video tape for, I believe, one year. After that recordings should be destroyed. However, obviously there is no real way of policing this, even if it would be in the interest of the copyright holders. Anyway, the point is now moot. See my next mail. Culf. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Culf Subject: (klf) Threat withdrawn - for now Date: 07 Oct 1998 22:20:48 +0100 (BST) Here's an update on the situation from Jamm!n. ----- Forwarded message from Jamm!n ----- Reply-To: Jamm!n Well, sounds like it was all a storm in a teacup. Apparently the IFPI guy called back this afternoon to say that, on reflection, he believed the site didn't breach any copyright due to the nature of the specific music it carried, and Andy told me to go ahead and put the files back. Even so, I won't do so until I've tightened security a little further, and trimmed out the commercial stuff (which I feel is a waste of space anyway - I'd rather just have the rarities). Although no-one seems to have heard of the IFPI, I don't doubt their veracity. Seems to me they're just rather an inept poorer cousin to the MCPS, borrowing some of the latter's totalitarian ideology and trying to marry it with a pretence of internet savvy in a bid to win customers. Some of the phraseology of the letter suggested to me that, for a "legal adviser", the correspondant actually knew jack shit about applying English copyright law (which, interestingly, he referred to only as "your copyright laws" despite the organisation apparently being headquartered in London) to the internet. Maybe that explains the extremely hasty retreat as soon as Andy and myself got back to him with a suitable spiel about what Kopyright Liberation Front was actually about, and challenged him over his slapdash application of copyright law which probably isn't applicable to MP3 distribution anyway. The impression I'm left with is this is an organisation which seeks to prevent MP3 dissemination (among other things) solely by the use of threats which they then have neither the guts nor the legality to follow up. So perhaps we were lucky. More's the pity, in some respects. I was quite looking forward to a proper fight about it :) Jamm!n ----- End of forwarded message from Jamm!n ----- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "sCt" Subject: Re: (klf) CHILL OUT TRIBUTE CD Date: 07 Oct 1998 14:31:04 -0700 >are the tracks on the album from the klf or from some "tributers"? >sorry, i've never heard of that album... :] > > As far as I can tell, aside from the album art and the credits "Special thanks to Bill Drummond and Jimmy Cauty" (in fine print), this album has nothing to do with the KLF, nor is it a tribute to them. I think there's one track by Panacea that samples the KLF. >Can anyone give me a quick rundown of this disk? Is it ambient-ish or (as I seem to remember) something completely different? This disc is really all over the place. It's basically a compilation, with alot of weird, often minimalistic, repetitive tracks. There's no theme or common groove to it. To be honest, I don't like it. I got so excited when I saw it on the rack because I LOVE Chill Out, I knew I would buy it regardless of whether I liked it or not, so I didn't listen to it first -- then a major let down. If your a KLF collector, you have to have it just for the album art. I don't collect too much KLF, I'm really an Orb collector, so if anyone wants to trade I'll listen. I'd give it up for a CDR of "Space" and some other ambient type KLF filler. Later, Scott # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Brady" Subject: Re: (klf) IMPORTANT: Mancentral Sound Archive threatened by Date: 07 Oct 1998 19:03:27 -0700 >In the US, the Supreme Court ruled that time-shifting (which is what you are >doing when you record a television program on your VCR) is a legitimate "fair >use" of copyrighted material, and is therefore perfectly legal. So that's >why. :-) > Well... how about: I'm just time-shifting KLF music to the point in time in which it is available for purchase. Nah. Wouldn't work. Pretty close to the truth, though. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m u t e" Subject: re: (klf) Cyber Sadism Live Date: 07 Oct 1998 23:34:27 PDT "Phil Blake" asked: >Home, Stewart. Featuring Jimmy Cauty of THE KLF. >What The ***K is it??? It's a bunch of spoken word type stuff by Home, including an interview or some such with Cauty. There was a review a couple of Idlers back. mute ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thomas Helvard Subject: (klf) Patterson Date: 08 Oct 1998 11:02:00 +0200 On the orb sit (www.theorb.com) there's a little text on how it all started... I quote: 1990. CHICAGO. A young black kid emerges from a room clutching the KLF's "3 a.m. Eternal (Orbital remix)" and frantically tries to justify his fervour. "It's like Pink Floyd, but it's not Pink Floyd, it's dance music. I can't believe this! Amazing!" Alex Paterson / DJ Orb / LX Dee (depending on which hat he's wearing) realises his therapy is beginning to produce results. hehe...... - Thomas I Don't Need A Damn Signature............... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Lindgren" Subject: (klf) I need help.... Date: 08 Oct 1998 05:30:17 PDT Hello everybody, Could someone PLEASE help me get this cd: Paul Oakenfolds " essential summer 98` " This includes WTIL ( acid classic), I can send you cash n` then youll send me the cd, its an easy to find cd in the UK from what I know. also I can get a ENTvsKLF 7" for the guy who helps me to get the cd. Someone PLEASE help me!! thankful for answer - david _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ David Lindgren phone (+46) 070 783 92 27 Lockropsv.7 " 0709 521 512 S-811 37 Sandviken SWEDEN davli44@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "tim@xdollarx.com" Subject: (klf) Kalevala Date: 07 Oct 1998 20:00:40 -0400 poor sales rate ! . . . some mistake surely ? my last contact with finnmart was in july when i tried to re-stock the singles and at the same time glean some idea as to when the album would be released KALA001 to KALA004 were all sold out and there were only a couple of doze= n copies of KALA005 and KALA006 in the end i had to stock up from rough trade who similarly reported very= limited quantities of course it's futile to speculate when/if the album will be released particularly given the track record to-date but i still reckon it will see the light o= f day : ) anyone who's had a few projects on the go at one time will know how easy = it is for things to get delayed [speaks from experience : )] and with that the hermit returned to the place where black turns to gold = =2E =2E . = and waited in the spirit of mu liberate and communicate tim # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phillip Kasiaras Subject: (klf) Space CD & 3 A.M. Eternal Promo CD auction update #1 Date: 08 Oct 1998 02:37:19 -0400 (EDT) Hello, The high bid for the 3 AM Eternal CD promo is at $20. Still no bids for the Space CD...oh well, I guess everyone here already has it. Greetings all! I've got a copy of the Space CD (Space CD1) I'd like to auction off. It is near mint (several light scratches and marks-I'll gaurantee it plays fine) and is an original CD issue! (Not a bootleg or a CD-r...) Minimum bid is $50 American. Auction ends October 11th. I'm also accepting offers for a Klf CD Single '3 A.M. Eternal'. It is a US Promo cat# ASCD-2230 on Arista (of course). CD has a few light marks & the sleeve has a little curl in it (from where it got crimped from the box). Tracks are: Radio Freedom Edit 3:13, Live at the S.S.L. 3:36, Live at the S.S.L. (Extended) 5:50, Rankin' Club Version 4:34. HIGH BID IS $20 Best offer as of October 11th. Please notify me at phil@toms.net Thanks! Philip # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: (klf) FW: Aubrey mixes Date: 08 Oct 1998 11:11:23 -0500 $58 is the current bid. The Orb: Aubry Mixes: The Ultraworld Excursions US CD (Caroline CAROL 1717-2) > "Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry." > D. Banner > > DONALD D GAGEN > MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM > ENSEMBLE STUDIOS > http://www.ensemblestudios.com > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: (klf) Aubrey Mixes Auction Date: 08 Oct 1998 16:03:35 -0500 The Orb: Aubry Mixes: The Ultraworld Excursions US CD (Caroline CAROL 1717-2) The current bid is $65 "Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry." D. Banner DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Robin Zimmerman Subject: Re: (klf) Space CD & 3 A.M. Eternal Promo CD auction update #1 Date: 08 Oct 1998 17:36:13 -0700 (PDT) On Thu, 8 Oct 1998, Phillip Kasiaras wrote: > Still no bids for the Space CD...oh well, I guess everyone here already > has it. ... > Minimum bid is $50 American. > Auction ends October 11th. Could be no one thinks $50 is that great a deal. :) I don't want to complain 'cause I try to sell stuff on these lists all the time, but the thing with the daily auction updates - it's a little annoying. Could we just announce items for sale and then update only the people who show interest by responding? Flame away! ;-) Ob$hill: I've got an extra "Waiting for the Rights of Mu" CD and also a "Who Killed the JAMS?" LP that I'd like to sell or trade out. Hmm, hey Philip, you want to make a trade? :) -CRZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Wouter" Subject: (klf) lsomii in windows '98 Date: 09 Oct 1998 08:22:49 +0200 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Trancentral.Dome.99@t-online.de (Jens Rößger) Subject: Re: (klf) New 2k.net Date: 09 Oct 1998 09:06:12 +0200 New Page: millennium network http://www.t2k.net jens # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thomas Helvard Subject: Re: (klf) IMPORTANT: Mancentral Sound Archive threatened by Date: 09 Oct 1998 10:43:06 +0200 > >With copyright law you ARE allowed to make a backup copy for yourself >of anything you may have. > This is true with the normal copyright, but when mp3's emerged on the internet, there was a big debate here in Denmark. Im pretty sure that it was stated that it is illegal to have mp3's of tracks, no matter for what purpurse (?), even backup for yourself only, if you don't have the artists full consent. For example it legal to have the tracks you download from e.g. the beastieboys official homepage, since you have the artists full permission. But it's illegal to make an mp3 off one of your cd's, even if you keep in a safe for the rest of your life... As I said, I'm only _pretty_ sure about this, and I may be wrong...But I beleive it should be taken in consideration (?) - Thomas I Don't Need A Damn Signature............... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephane MONTHIEU" Subject: (klf) K Cera Cera CD Date: 09 Oct 1998 02:16:38 PDT Hi All, I have make an offer to sale the K Cera Cera CD some weeks ago. But at this old time I didn't have it in my hands... Today I have bought it for 250 French Francs. That's the price I sale it (or trade) plus postage... So if someone is interested, e-mail me privately. [The CD is used but still listenable! I promise!] Still to trade: - Give Peace A Dance 2CD Compilation - J&A French CD (different from the UK version) - 2K French CD promo (only radio edit) - French 12"PD ref. PD1 in the discog. Cheers Stephane "Steve M.D." MONTHIEU "Ladies and gentlemen, The KLF has now left the building..." ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phillip Kasiaras Subject: (klf) Space CD & 3 A.M. Eternal Promo CD auction update #2 Date: 09 Oct 1998 01:00:26 -0400 (EDT) Hello again! The current bid for the Space CD is $50 The current bid for the 3 AM Eternal promo CD is now at $25 For those who are seeing this for the first time, there are details below. Greetings all! I've got a copy of the Space CD (Space CD1) I'd like to auction off. It is near mint (several light scratches and marks-I'll gaurantee it plays fine) and is an original CD issue! (Not a bootleg or a CD-r...) current bid is at $50 American. Auction ends October 11th. I'm also accepting offers for a Klf CD Single '3 A.M. Eternal'. It is a US Promo cat# ASCD-2230 on Arista (of course). CD has a few light marks & the sleeve has a little curl in it (from where it got crimped from the box). Tracks are: Radio Freedom Edit 3:13, Live at the S.S.L. 3:36, Live at the S.S.L. (Extended) 5:50, Rankin' Club Version 4:34. HIGH BID IS $25 Best offer as of October 11th. Please notify me at phil@toms.net Thanks! Philip # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan Abel Subject: (klf) Who Killed The JAMMS? Date: 09 Oct 1998 11:49:23 +0100 There suddenly appears to be a glut of Who Killed the JAMMS albums goinf around at decent prices (#10) etc... now has some one bootleged this or am i just going mad and its really easy to get hold of? cheers dan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "brian j parker" Subject: (klf) FT/FS Date: 09 Oct 1998 11:49:36 -0400 [NOTE: I am not currently subscribing to the KLF list due to tight mail quotas, so please reply directly to beep@angstrom.net] I had some luck at a used record shop recently, and am willing to take bids on the following vinyl items I found there: "Burn the Beat" (TVT) "Doctorin' the Tardis'" (TVT) The History of the JAMMs (TVT) "What Time Is Love? (Live at Trancentral)" (WaxTrax) (b/w Techno Gate Mix) "What Time Is Love?" is sealed. The other items are all in great condition, and if you're unhappy with them I'll do a return. I'll also do trades. I'm looking for rare, promo, amd DJ-only remixes of gothic and industrial stuff (Cure, Front 242, Skinny Puppy, Nitzer Ebb, Depeche Mode...) as well as KLF stuff. Think, "if I were a DJ, would I mix this in?" brian j. parker dj, computer geek, and black-clad cliche http://www.pghgoth.com/beep beep(at)pghgoth.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dan Wilkinson" Subject: Re: (klf) Kalevala (was: Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 16:31:54 -0400) Date: 11 Oct 1998 00:02:41 +0100 Did they even get round to releasing all of the singles??? I was listening to my copies today, and have got the following 5: Gimpo Faster Gimpo Faster, Kill Kill Kill Aurora Wotsitcalled Candy (Handwritten - has "Supermodel" on the label but crossed out) Sexy Roy Orbison So what ever happened to "Supermodel" etc? Does any list member have any other singles? Did anyone else notice that the AB single has 2 b-side labels? Or that some covers are glossy and some are rough-finished cardboard? I personally don't have much hope in ever seeing the album, but again, it's another really interesting project that never got finished.....Hands up those who actually really think we'll ever see the pyramid? Dan. >:-) >erik (who has all the Kalevala 7"s) > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m u t e" Subject: Re: (klf) Kalevala Date: 10 Oct 1998 20:47:54 PDT "Dan Wilkinson" asked the following Kalevala Kwestions: "Did they even get round to releasing all of the singles??? " Yes, they did. "So what ever happened to "Supermodel" etc?" They put out Candy instead, and Supermodel is waiting patiently on the album, AFAIK. And on the disrespectful Nelleman MP3 CDs, no? "Does any list member have any other singles?" Yes, many of us have the Blizzard King EP. "Did anyone else notice that the AB single has 2 b-side labels?" Some people did notice this, but some people got A and B side labels instead. "Or that some covers are glossy and some are rough-finished cardboard?" And some are recycled paper. ".....Hands up those who actually really think we'll ever see the pyramid?" Uhhh... Mute. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m u t e" Subject: (klf) Dr LX Paterson mentions Cauty Date: 11 Oct 1998 02:02:10 PDT No-one else ever mentioned this, and I kept forgetting to, but Alex Paterson appeared on Australian radio the other month, on national network Triple J's Mix-Up program, where a guest DJ performs a three-hour set weekly. The beginning was mixed in with snippets of an interview where he explained who he was and how the Orb formed, giving full respect to Jimmy Cauty and the KLF, with no "they stole my work!" claims, as of old. For those Orbular fans on this list, I did just happen to use a couple of Type II cassettes to tape-record the whole show (though Alex didn't do a full three hours- the show started about fifteen minutes late and the last half hour or so was by a Melbourne guy), if you have inclinations towards trading for such artifacts at all...do feel free to mail me privately. Cheers, Mute. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dan Wilkinson" Subject: Re: (klf) Kalevala Date: 11 Oct 1998 11:37:14 +0100 >"So what ever happened to "Supermodel" etc?" > > They put out Candy instead, and Supermodel is waiting patiently on the >album, AFAIK. And on the disrespectful Nelleman MP3 CDs, no? How the hell did Lars get a hold of it then? >"Does any list member have any other singles?" > > Yes, many of us have the Blizzard King EP. Oh shit! Must have lost my copy! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lars Nellemann" Subject: Re: (klf) Kalevala Date: 11 Oct 1998 13:20:20 +0200 >>"So what ever happened to "Supermodel" etc?" >> >> They put out Candy instead, and Supermodel is waiting patiently on the >>album, AFAIK. And on the disrespectful Nelleman MP3 CDs, no? > > >How the hell did Lars get a hold of it then? Well, Bill left a DAT wioth a record company, someone copied it, gave it to another, copied it and send it to me - or something like that. "Disrespectful Nellemann" please spell my name correct when calling me names ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Subject: (klf) MP3 AND LAW Date: 11 Oct 1998 20:35:21 +0200 Hello, I found a cool page called Sound Byting. Here you'll find a lot of interesting things about music on the internet and the american law. Just give it a try: http://www.Soundbyting.com Michael ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> ***K THE MILLENNIUM - WE WANT IT NOW << http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Lofts/1353/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Britain P. Woodman Subject: (klf) MP3 AND LAW (www.soundbyting.com) Date: 11 Oct 1998 15:03:02 -0400 (EDT) Michael is great with fries and an ice cold soda! > I found a cool page called Sound Byting. Here you'll find a lot of > interesting things about music on the internet and the american law. I'm sure this will be noted further later on, but this site was created by the Recording Industry Association of America (I think they're the US analogue to the MCPS). They're currently engaged in trying to sue Diamond Multimedia out of producing and selling the first portable MP3-playing unit available in the U.S. Britain. -- Britain P. Woodman - britain@cardhouse.com - www.nnaf.net/~bpw - AIM: Tecnix1200 Step on stage, the girls boo too much, I guess it's 'cos you hang with lame dudes too much. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Odyssey Subject: (klf) Rare KLF/Orb stuff for sale Date: 11 Oct 1998 14:32:22 -0700 Hi KLF list! Just finished putting a TON of stuff for sale on my site, there are quite a few rare KLF/Orb items on there, plus some other odd trance/ambient items (FSOL, Leftfield, Grid, etc.) If any of you are into Brilliant (youth/cauty), I have quite a few 12"s as well (although I imagine most of you aren't.) Anyway, check out the site if you're interested: www.newportile.com/odyssey/odysseymusic.html Email me if you're interested in anything (prices always negotiable). Odyssey # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: anders@algonet.se (Anders Hultman) Subject: Re: (klf) Threat withdrawn - for now Date: 12 Oct 1998 09:50:48 +0200 >Although no-one seems to have heard of the IFPI, I don't doubt their >veracity. Sorry if I'm late with this comment, I've been offline for some weeks, but IFPI really is an existing organisation. Some years ago I worked at a radio station, and we payed IFPI and three more organisations (SAMI, NCB and STIM which all are local Swedish organisations) money for every minute of music played on the air. In Sweden, SAMI collects royalties on behalf of the artists, STIM on behalf of the authors/composers and IFPI on behalf of the record companies. NCB is involved when using music in ads. IFPI is an international organisation, and the other treee mentioned in this mail are local Swedish ones that cooperate with similar organisations in other countries (like ASCAP and BMI in the US). anders http://www.algonet.se/~anders/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ee52kt@ee.surrey.ac.uk (Kyle M Thompson) Subject: Re: (klf) MP3 AND LAW (www.soundbyting.com) Date: 12 Oct 1998 10:59:58 +0100 (BST) U> (I think they're the US analogue to the MCPS). it's analogy you fool # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Hedberg Subject: (klf) T-shirts! --> Latest update Date: 12 Oct 1998 12:13:08 +0200 Back again. Production starts wednesday. All of you that haven't yet received any confirmation from me that I have received your money --> Let me know, because I must know how many t-shirts to produce. Cheers, Johan AB Upsala Nya Tidning E-mail: johan.hedberg@unt.se Johan Hedberg Fax: +46 - 18 - 478 14 76 UNT Fredag Tel: +46 - 18 - 478 11 23 Box 36 Mobil: +46 - 70 - 473 15 75 S - 751 03 Uppsala Sweden _____________________________ Free Kevin Mitnick! http://www.KevinMitnick.com _____________________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL_KENNEDY@derwentside.ac.uk (MICHAEL KENNEDY) Subject: (klf) To: klf@xmission.com Date: 12 Oct 1998 11:50:57 +0100 Just to let everyone know I'm back on the list as of a few weeks ago you may remember I used to request tape trades - If you want to trade tape copies of KLF stuff let me know what you've got of KLF & orb and we may be able to trade tapes here's some KLF stuff i can copy ultra rare trax 1987 who killed the jams shag times space the wtil story bad wisdom soundtrack the white room ost the white room1991 chill out eternity project LSOM 1 & 2 all of the main singles and the disco 2000 stuff/ early stuff I'm thinking of getting a cdr writer so soon I may be able to do stuff on cd for trade probably after xmas a few klf things I'm looking for anthem - peace in the house all yoiu need is love me ru con mix if you wanna trade let me know (tapes only atm) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Herbert Subject: (klf) Waiting... Date: 12 Oct 1998 19:56:19 +0100 Anybody know how much a copy of the video "Waiting" is worth at the moment? I've seen one, but it's kinda pricy... Jon Herbert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Simon Daw Subject: Re: (klf) Waiting... Date: 12 Oct 1998 20:35:30 +0100 In message <362250D3.6ECB@andover.co.uk>, Jon Herbert writes > >Anybody know how much a copy of the video "Waiting" is worth at the >moment? I've seen one, but it's kinda pricy... MVE at Notting Hill, London had this for 150ukp last time I was there!!! I'm glad I bought my copy via KLF mailorder all those years ago. -- Simon Daw simon_klf@esteem.demon.co.uk http://www.esteem.demon.co.uk/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Hearley Subject: Re: (klf) Waiting... Date: 12 Oct 1998 21:07:40 +0000 Simon Daw wrote: > In message <362250D3.6ECB@andover.co.uk>, Jon Herbert > writes > > > >Anybody know how much a copy of the video "Waiting" is worth at the > >moment? I've seen one, but it's kinda pricy... > > MVE at Notting Hill, London had this for 150ukp last time I was there!!! I bought a copy from the same shop only 18 months ago for £40/£50 .... which i thought was a tad pricey (at the time!) .... Yes this video is VERY RARE and very COLLECTABLE. I think MVE realise this and seem to be taking the piss !!! unfortunately it's not like you can shop around as this video isn't very visible. Having said that £150 is way over the top !!. Richard # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan Abel Subject: Re: (klf) Who Killed The JAMMS? Date: 12 Oct 1998 09:40:07 +0100 Phil Blake wrote: > > Where have you seen these Dan? A friend of mine is after a copy. I'll have another scout around to see who's selling a copy at the mo... I've just got mine on order, and i don't wnat ppl buying my copy :) > By the way, did you still want that Timelords CDV single? aargghhhh, yes.. i'll mail you later... sorry (later this morning that is) dan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hreinn Agustsson Subject: (klf) history of the jams ? Date: 12 Oct 1998 10:32:22 -0000 Name : History Of The Jams=20 Artist: Klf/Jams/Timelords=20 Manufacturer : Pinnacle (Imports)=20 Catalogue No : TVT4040CD=20 Release Date : Feb98=20 i don=B4t remember seeing this mentioned, sorry if it has, but does anyone own this? what=B4s on it ? mr.cleen # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BARRETT P Subject: (klf) The Prodigy vs. The KLF Date: 13 Oct 1998 09:57:06 +0100 On Radio 1's Breezeblock show last night, Liam of the Prodigy did a DJ set of his favourite songs of the last 15 years, including things like the Beatles and Sex Pistols mixed with breakbeats. He played the original version of 'What time is love' and then mixed some oldskool electro record over the top. It sounded amazing. paul edward dafydd barrett # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Herbert Subject: Re: (klf) Waiting... Date: 13 Oct 1998 10:31:24 +0100 Richard Hearley wrote: > > >Anybody know how much a copy of the video "Waiting" is worth at the > > >moment? I've seen one, but it's kinda pricy... > > MVE at Notting Hill, London had this for 150ukp last time I was > > there!!! > I bought a copy from the same shop only 18 months ago for £40/£50 .... > which i thought was a tad pricey (at the time!) .... Yes this video > is VERY RARE and very COLLECTABLE. I think MVE realise this and seem > to be taking the piss !!! unfortunately it's not like you can shop > around as this video isn't very visible. Having said that £150 is way > over the top !!. Yup, this is the copy I saw. Thanks for the opinions... I guess I'll have to think this one over... Jon Herbert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Simon Date: 13 Oct 1998 13:49:45 +0100 (British Summer Time) Hi, I've been off the list for a while and would be grateful if someone could update me on any new developments over the last couple of months and also if anyone has anything interesting to sell, please let me know. Cheers Simon Simon Clabburn A smile a day makes the world think you're strange. sc7606@bristol.ac.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: klinthead@cns.co.uk Date: 13 Oct 1998 18:51:28 +0100 I was recently burgled and had a much played cd stolen. It was a Japanese import by the KLF called Mu. Can you tell me if I can somehow get a replacement copy. Kieron Linthead # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mark turner <106713.454@compuserve.com> Subject: (klf) Radio 1 last night Date: 13 Oct 1998 15:30:45 -0400 Any-one catch Radio 1 last night (12.10.98)? Caught the last half hour of The Orb live at Maida Vale. Couldn't find a= blank tape in time though. Just moved house you understand. Anyone get = it on CD-R? Then, Liam Howlett was doing a special (Radio 1's term) DJ set (not live)= =2E = About 25 minutes into it up came the KLF. Sounded like WTIL 1998 Pure Trance classic. An early Prodigy influence maybe? Anyway, caught all b= ar the first 3 seconds on tape this time. Not bad at all. Mark Turner # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: (klf) CNN Worldbeat Tammy Wynnette Retrospective Date: 13 Oct 1998 15:09:31 -0500 I just got a call from CNN today. They are doing a show about Tammy Wynette. They needed a copy of the Justified & Ancient video and they somehow found out that I had one. The show is called Worldbeat. It will be on Saturday 10/17 12:00 PM EDT and again on Sunday 10/18 2:30 PM EDT. Provided that they get my tape in time the show will contain bits from J&A. Don "Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry." D. Banner DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dekoy A/K/A Decoy" Subject: (klf) mORBid KLF Auction Date: 13 Oct 1998 21:48:17 PDT a whole whack of KLF/Orb/System 7 and related up for grabs at: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Nebula/7129/ definitely worth checking as there's something for everybodies collecting range. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m u t e" Subject: (klf) Content-Type: text/plain Date: 14 Oct 1998 01:23:34 PDT >"Disrespectful Nellemann" please spell my name correct when >calling me names ;-) Sorry about that. :P I was actually applying the adjective to the compilations themselves, though of course you were implicit in that, as you produced them. Mute. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Panayiotis Liapis" Subject: (klf) Update Please! David Ashkenazi, contact me! Date: 14 Oct 1998 05:17:37 PDT Really sorry to bother you all, but i have to move to a diferent country and haven't been on the list for a month or so. Please trell me if you have received Marshall's TWROST and if any KLF news have actually taken place during this time.Also, David please contact me! Thanx mates ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HakkuH/Steira Subject: (klf) frontnet (fnord) Date: 14 Oct 1998 15:58:28 +0200 (MET DST) if anyone has the addy for the frontnet ftp-site, can they please mail me privately? -ASM- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: (klf) So? did I miss anything Date: 14 Oct 1998 03:36:05 EDT Well, dammit. I return from two weeks vacation to discover that while I managed to unsubscribe from the list I forgot to sub to the digest. While unlikely, has anything of interest happened since October started? Dutton still hasn't sent out my discs, yet. Neither has Marshall for that matter. Mu. -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lars Nellemann" Subject: Re: (klf) Update Please! David Ashkenazi, contact me! Date: 14 Oct 1998 16:21:45 +0200 > >Really sorry to bother you all, but i have to move to a diferent country >and haven't been on the list for a month or so. Please trell me if you >have received Marshall's TWROST Oh no - He's been telling us over and over again that it is ready, but nobody have reported actually receiving it! Lars # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bryson Mills" Subject: Re: (klf) Radio 1 last night Date: 14 Oct 1998 11:56:21 PDT Like others have said the Liam mix of WTIL added just the vibe it needed for 1998. Got it on CDR too. Perhaps B&J should have asked Liam to get in on FTM?? Brys ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "rhidian" <9543349@EIGG.SMS.ED.AC.UK> Subject: (klf) Mad Professor vs. The KLF & Orb Date: 14 Oct 1998 20:49:28 +0000 I found this somewhere, but have lost exactly where..... >Mad Professor's Ariwa imprint quickly became known as one of >England's most prolific labels: To date, its owner has created or >produced 131 albums featuring worthy talents such as Pato Banton, >Wild Bunch, Macka B, U-Roy, Yellowman and Lee Perry. In addition, >pop artists like the Orb, Sade, KLF and even Rancid have flocked to >Ariwa to have their albums sliced and diced. I don't suppose anyone has got any info on any orb or KLF remixes by the Mad Professor? I'm trying to imagine dubbed out KLF tunes and they sound like they would be pretty good.... cheers, Rhid # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: RE: (klf) Mad Professor vs. The KLF & Orb Date: 14 Oct 1998 15:29:21 -0500 I don't suppose anyone has got any info on any orb or KLF remixes by the Mad Professor? I'm trying to imagine dubbed out KLF tunes and they sound like they would be pretty good.... He did a remix of the Orb's "Towers of Dub" Don "Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry." D. Banner DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Britain P. Woodman" Subject: (klf) low-definitions Date: 14 Oct 1998 16:44:01 -0400 (EDT) Kyle M Thompson is great with fries and an ice cold soda! >U> (I think they're the US analogue to the MCPS). >it's analogy you fool an.a.logue or an.a.log \'an-*l-.o.g, -.a:g\ n [F analogue, fr. analogue analogous, fr. Gk analogos] 1: something that is analogous or similar to something else : PARALLEL 2: an organ similar in function to an organ of another animal or plant but different in structure and origin anal.o.gy \*-'nal-*-je-\ n 1: inference that if two or more things agree with one another in some respects they will prob. agree in others 2: resemblance in some particulars between things otherwise unlike : SIMILARITY 3: correspondence between the members of pairs or sets of linguistic forms that serves as a basis for the creation of another form 4: correspondence in function between anatomical parts of different structure and origin Actually, it's analogue, as in "The RIAA is a similar organization to the MCPS." See definition one up there. Don't try to info-slam me on a public mailing list until you check your dictionary, pal. Sorry, Lazlo, I won't continue this thread if I can help it. It's just that, you know, he called me a fool. What if Bill and Jimmy came to me in the form of a singing bush tomorrow and told me the release date of the "Waiting for the Lost Train to Swingcentral" remix album? I'd drop a note to the list, and everyone would be saying "oh, look, there's that fool who doesn't check his dictionary." Britain. P.S. Yes, I realize that at this point, the phrase "f--- you" would constitute a winning rejoinder. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Ashkenazi Subject: Re: (klf) Mad Professor vs. The KLF & Orb Date: 14 Oct 1998 22:47:23 +0200 Hi ppl, Don Gagen wrote: > I don't suppose anyone has got any info on any orb or KLF remixes by > > the Mad Professor? I'm trying to imagine dubbed out KLF tunes and > they sound like they would be pretty good.... > > He did a remix of the Orb's "Towers of Dub" Errr, on the 3 a.m. Eternal remixes cd-single ["The Moody Boys Selection"], "Produced By The KLF "Remixed By Neil->>Mad Professor<< Frazer At Ariwa-Studios" Over & Out! -- __________________________________ David Ashkenazi, Tel-Aviv, Israel. IRC nickname: "Boredman". Phone: 971-3-6875091 adavid@inter.net.il ICQ: 13255725 13255725@pager.mirabilis.com http://wwp.mirabilis.com/13255725 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: litjen@easynet.co.uk (Graham Scales) Subject: (klf) New Address (Maybe) Date: 15 Oct 1998 00:39:30 -0600 At 12:21 03/10/98 -0400, 24 Hr. Service Station wrote: > >If you are sending a new address, or even just a confirmation, please >put NEW ADDRESS in the subject line. > Marshall, Have you sent out my copies of TOWRST yet? Or will you be in the next couple of days?? The reason is that I am moving out of the present address: 11 Trinity Street Bishop's Stortford Hertfordshire CM23 3TL United Kingdom I will be moving 2 weeks from today (28th October). Let me know and I will send the new address to send the package to. Thanks alot Graham Scales # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: litjen@easynet.co.uk (Graham Scales) Subject: Re: (klf) New Address (Maybe) Date: 15 Oct 1998 02:17:19 -0600 Doh!!! Sorry Guys that I didn't mean to send that to the list!! Humbly disappear..................................................... 'laters Graham # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ulrik Brandt Hansen Subject: (klf) Tracklists for Drummond-produced records Date: 15 Oct 1998 13:15:51 +0200 Jeg Skal Ha' Mer' Str=F8m!! Hi Lazlo and rest of the list. =20 =20 =20 I've got the information on the 3 Drummond-produced records I've found, th= at's not in the discography. =20 1: Echo and the Bunnymen: Crocodiles =20 side one: Going Up (3.53) Stars are stars (2.44) Pride (2.44)------------------produced by Ian Broudie Monkeys (2.48) Crocodiles (2.35) =20 side two: Rescue (4.24)--------------produced by Ian Broudie Villiers Terrace (2.40) Pictures On My Wall (2.49) All That Jazz (2.45) Happy Death Men (4.34) =20 all songs written by:Sergeant/McCulloch/Pattison/De Freitas Produced by he Chameleons (Bill Drummond and David Balfe) exept Pride/Resc= ue Enginered by Hugh Jones (Broudie trax by Rod Houison) Published by Zoo Music/ Warner Bros Keyboards by David Balfe =20 Released on KOROVA (K 58 175, Kode 1) (same label as Lori and the Chameleo= ns) WEA 58.175 Germany:U France WE 361 UK: Kode 1 =20 copyright 1980 =20 A small picture of the band practicing is taken by Bill Butt (innersleeve) Cover by Brian Griffin =20 2: The Teardrop Explodes: Kilimanjaro =20 (compact disc-re-released in 89) =20 1: Ha Ha I'm Drowning (2.55) 2: Sleeping Gas (3.45) 3: Treason (2.56)---------------------------------------produced by C.La= nger and a Winstaley 4: Second Head (3.10) 5: Reward (2.41)----------------------------------------produced by C.La= nger and a Winstaley 6: Poppies (5.05) 7: Went Crazy (2.40) 8: Brave Boys Keep Their Promises (2.30) 9: Bouncing Babies (2.28) 10: Books (2.36)-----------------------------------------produced by Mike = Howlett 11: Thief Of Baghdad (3.09) 12: When I Dream (5.38)------------------------------produced by Mike Howl= ett =20 produced by The Chameleons (Drummond/Balfe) exect 4 tracks Cover by Brian Griffin (same as above!!) =20 Published by Zoo Music/Warner (p) 1980 execpt 2 and ) (p) 1979 Phonogram Ltd (c) 1989 Phonogram Ltd =20 Released on Fontana (836 897-2) Trax written by teardrop explodes ("books" by Julian Cope and Ian McCulloc= h) Note on cover :"For collectors use only SFMCD 4. Do not use for re orderin= g" =20 3: Zodic Mindwarp and the Love Reaction: Tattooed Beat Messiah =20 side one: (woolfchild speech) (0.29)------------unlisted on cover= , but listed on label Prime Mover (3.09) Skull Spark Joker (2.26)=20 Backseat Education (3:03) (speech) (0.05)------------unlisted on = cover, but listed on label Bad Girl City (2.58) Untamed Stare (2.38) Tattoed Beat Messiah (2.38) Born To Be Wild (0.00)------------unlisted on la= bel, listed on cover, not on the album =20 side two: (speech) (0.09)------------unlisted= on cover, but listed on label Let's Break The Law (3.34) Spasm Gang (2.44) Driving On Holy Gasoline (4.13) Planet Girl (2.36) Kids Stuff (4.52) Messianic Reprise (1.03) =20 Written by Zodiac Mindwarp, produced by David Balfe and Bill (William) Dru= mmond. Mixed by Nigel Green (p) 1988 Phonogram Ltd ("prime mover" and "backseat education" 1987) Vertigo 832 729-1 =20 As mentioned above: Born To Be Wild ain't on mine version of the record, i= t might have been a cover-version of the old classic, but due to copyrights= and other legal stuff ismaybe was removed. =20 Here is some part of the innnersleeve-text: "............Archbishop Of Bashington Gimpo Pummels Himself Into Legend...= =2E...........King Boy Drummond Dreams His Destiny And Feasts On Red Wine A= nd Doner Kebabs....." =20 If anyone interrested I can Write it all down (it's written the same way a= s Z's contributions to "Bad Wisdom") =20 =20 Another Zodiac album (hoodlum thunder 1992), features a text of the same k= ind "....Bill Drummond,Jimmy Cauty, Youth and TracyBrynn reassured Zodiac o= f the existence and validity of the 5.dimension" produced by Richardson/Coler 1992. Photos of GIMPO and one of the band where Zodiac (I think) wears a KLF-shi= rt Features: Elvis Died For You (some claims that Drummond was in the video??= ??) Trash Madonna Chainsaw and lot other tracks (the above just reminds me of Bad Wis= dom)=20 =20 Could Tracy Brynn be Tracey from Bad Wisdom???? --------------------------------------------------------------------------= --------------- A couple of days after this was written, but not send, I found a 4.th reco= rd: =20 4: Echo And The Bunnymen: Pictures On My Wall compact disc =20 1:Pictures on my wall (2.52) 2: I've Read It In Books (2.59) =20 Produced by The Chameleons (Drummond/Balfe) Engineered by Martin Mitchel Releasd March 1979 (p) 1979 Zoo Records (c) 1995 Griffin Music (GCD-466-2) =20 Note on cover "Very First Echo And The Bunnymen Single Previously Unavailable On CD" About the tracks:=20 =20 "Pictures on my Wall" is an early version of th= e one that appears on the "Crocodiles"=20 (sounds a bit like a Demo to me) =20 =20 "I've Read It In Books" is also en early versi= on of another track, but the final song appears on Kilimanjaro=20 (by Teardrop Explodes) and NOT on an Echo-rec= ord!!! (this explain why McCulloch got credits for this track). The "Teardrop-version" is just called "Books" = and NOT produced by Drummond (see data for Kllimanjaro). =20 =20 Ulrik =20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ulrik Brandt Hansen Subject: (klf) Small Soldiers In The Tardis Date: 15 Oct 1998 13:19:51 +0200 In the movie Small Soldiers (just came up in DK last week, so this can easily have been mentioned before) they are using a tune very similar to the DTT, i dont know if it is the original Rock n' Roll part "someting" or a new track build over the famous beat (didnt they say in the Manual that= =20 a track with a beat like that only could hit every tenth year (88-98, that about TEN to me)) Ulrik Jeg Skal Ha' Mer' Str=F8m!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Graphics Geezer" Subject: (klf) Born To Be Wild Date: 15 Oct 1998 12:40:29 +0000 Just for the record... Unlike Ulriks copy of Tatooed Beat Messiah, both mine and my housemates copies DO have Born To Be Wild on them (damn fine it is to). Don't know if you've (Ulrik) read this but if you're into The Teardrop Explodes/Bunnymen Zoo music stuff you could do a hell of a lot worse than reading Head On by Julian Cope. An eye-opener indeed. TTFN MH. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andy R." Subject: Re: (klf) Small Soldiers In The Tardis Date: 15 Oct 1998 16:33:18 +0000 Ulrik Brandt Hansen wrote: > > In the movie Small Soldiers (just came up in DK last week, so this > can easily have been mentioned before) they are using a tune very > similar to the DTT, i dont know if it is the original Rock n' Roll > part "someting"... having seen a trailer for this, it sounded far more like the original version, not DtT. I doubt it will be a hit again, as Mr Glitter is currently on trial in the UK for poession of child pornography and 'other serious sexual offences'. - andy R. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephane MONTHIEU" Subject: (klf) K Cera Cera CD's prices Date: 15 Oct 1998 08:37:32 PDT Hi all, according to my bank, 250 FF (the price I bought the CD)is equal: $50 us 28 UKP 77 Deutch Marks Btw, I prefer trade it than sale it... Stephane "Steve M.D." MONTHIEU "Ladies and gentlemen, The KLF has now left the building..." ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Panayiotis Liapis" Subject: (klf) The Building will open? Date: 15 Oct 1998 09:31:49 PDT Did veryone get this weird email? If you don't know what i'm talking about i'll 4ward it.. Classic font of course.. Bought Chill Out plus. it's alright, if anyone wants to know any info about it just ask. I found a different version of Waiting for the rites of mu!!!!! It seems to be a bootleg of the bootleg, has adifferent cover and doesn't say anything about 3333 copies. The weirdest thing is that i found both items in Glasgow university, among not more than 100 other CDs!!!!!!!!!!! Back to the decks..... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: RE: (klf) Small Soldiers In The Tardis Date: 15 Oct 1998 14:26:23 -0500 > In the movie Small Soldiers (just came up in DK last week, so this > can easily have been mentioned before) they are using a tune very > similar to the DTT, i dont know if it is the original Rock n' Roll > part "someting"... having seen a trailer for this, it sounded far more like the original version, not DtT. I doubt it will be a hit again, as Mr Glitter is currently on trial in the UK for poession of child pornography and 'other serious sexual offences'. GLITTER IN COURT ON CHILD SEX CHARGES GARY GLITTER appeared in court yesterday (Thursday, September 10) to answer 111 child sex charges - including the assault of two girls and collecting child pornography. Glitter (54), denied all charges at the magistrate's court in Yate, near Bristol. The '70s glam superstar, real name Paul Gadd, is also in court today (Friday, September 11). After saluting photographers and onlookers, Glitter was whisked away in a red Mercedes driven by a friend. The Daily Mirror UK tabloid newspaper reported angry scenes as the star was driven off, with one man arrested after throwing a drink can at the vehicle. Glitter was arrested in November, following the discovery of pornographic photos on the hard disk of a computer he took in to be repaired at a PC World store in Bristol. He was charged with the offences in March. Two charges relate to alleged assaults of underage girls claimed to have taken place between 1975 and 1981. One of the girls is reported to have been aged only eight when the alleged assault took place. Glitter was said to be relaxed during his appearance, with his lawyer entering a not guilty plea to all charges. "Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry." D. Banner DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Graphics Geezer" Subject: (klf) X$X - A Denial Date: 16 Oct 1998 14:35:25 +0000 I'M MICHAEL K AND SO IS MY WIFE On 15 Oct 98 at 10:53, Jerry Cornelius wrote: > http://xsx.future.easyspace.com > and > http://members.xoom.com/excessex > Is this YOU? I'm sitting here looking at the above question and wondering how the hell I came to find this in my mailbox. Especially when it comes from the same man who posted; "Gathering info on X$X is no longer a waste of time...I've GATHERED IT." and... "Rather than leave X$X in the grip of Andy EX-ESSEX..." The same Andy who went on to be accused of all sorts of crimes. Being X$X or even Michael K. In Andy's case it could be argued that he attracted some of the more paranoid attentions with the information he posted (to help you guys out). But how has the Finger of Doom come to point at me? What have I done? Three months ago I even ASKED for the low-down on X$X, and what was known! (cheers Paul). Ahh, but that could've just been a smoke screen designed to draw the scent away from this particular fox or maybe even to see how far "I'd" spread "my" various confusions? However, the inclusion of the "X$X" sign on the side of the M25 from Gimpo's spin should point said Finger towards M/A/D and M/A/D alone. Or did someone ELSE put the sign there for M/A/D to photograph? After all the M25 spin was open to all comers, so maybe it was me? MH (or MK?) Neoism is X$X is neoism :~) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan Abel Subject: Re: (klf) The Building will open? Date: 16 Oct 1998 09:00:27 +0100 Panayiotis Liapis wrote: > > Did veryone get this weird email? If you don't know what i'm talking > about i'll 4ward it.. Classic font of course.. email? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan Abel Subject: Fwd: (klf) The Building will open?] Date: 16 Oct 1998 16:06:36 +0100 tripp millican wrote: > > maybe i'm an idiot. maybe i havent been paying attention. im not sure. > but could someone explain what is going on? between these cryptic > emails about emails that i have no idea about and the last message about > X$X and whatnot...i have zero idea what any of this is about, although > it seems to be an interesting story and something that involves at least > a good portion of the list. could someone please explain? > thanks > tripp > > >Panayiotis Liapis wrote: > >> > >> Did veryone get this weird email? If you don't know what i'm talking > >> about i'll 4ward it.. Classic font of course.. > > > >email? > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "tripp millican" Subject: Re:(klf) The Building will open? Date: 16 Oct 1998 09:26:38 PDT > >Did veryone get this weird email? If you don't know what i'm talking >about i'll 4ward it.. Classic font of course.. can anyone explain what is going on here? between these couple of emails and the whole X$X thing this morning, i am thoroughy confused...what have i somehow missed? anyone? anyone? tripp ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "tripp millican" Subject: Re: Fwd: (klf) The Building will open?] Date: 16 Oct 1998 09:28:02 PDT sorry for the double post...screwy reply to fields...at any rate. sorry. tripp ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bryson Mills" Subject: Re: (klf) The Building will open? Date: 16 Oct 1998 10:45:03 PDT Ho hum...In case I've had a misconception from day one on the list, should I reply to "klf@lists.xmission.com" or "klf@xmission.com" ? I ask because, unless I'm imagining it, I sent an email to the lists about those "The Building" sites a few days ago (honest I was first with the scoop!!) but it's not appeared even though another one I sent by the same method (a reply, I think) got there. I'm confused and before I start getting paranoid, maybe someone can tell me if I've done a blimey ooer. And in response to another question, I am NOT under any circumstances connected with any X$X anywhere, anytime. Brys ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuart Bruce Subject: Re: (klf) Tracklists for Drummond-produced records Date: 15 Oct 1998 17:44:28 +0100 (BST) On Thu 15 Oct, Ulrik Brandt Hansen wrote: > Written by Zodiac Mindwarp, produced by David Balfe and Bill > (William) Drummond. > Mixed by Nigel Green Not exactly totally connected, but I just thought I'd point out that I found "The Best of Zodiac Mindwarp" (a Karussel international compilation) for 2.99 in the HMV (UK) sale recently. Don't think there were any other copies in the shop I found it, but there might be others dotted around. As a best of I don't really think it is (a best of); all of the tracks are 1988/1987 and some important ones ("Elvis Died For You" etc.) are missing. There are also very very few sleeve notes. If I posted the tracklist could somebody tell me if any of the tracks have a Drummond connection? Stuart. -- There will never be a signature. Stuart Bruce http://www.atomiser.demon.co.uk/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alex Janzer Subject: (klf) KLF cd's for sale or trade Date: 17 Oct 1998 17:51:25 +0100 The following CD's are for SALE or TRADE: JAMs: "It's Grim Up North" KLF: "Justified & Ancient" KLF: "3 AM Eternal" CD's I'm LOOKING FOR: Sun Electric: "O'Locco" (original, not the Orb mixes) Moody Boyz: "Music for the Environment" Moody Boyz: "Recycled for the Envirenment" Please let me know if you would like to trade these. Regards, Alex # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andy R." Subject: (klf) Small Soldiers Date: 17 Oct 1998 18:49:20 +0000 Having cast an eye over the soundtrack CD in a secondhand shop today (which struck me as an odd place for it to appear since the film isn't even released here yet, but anyway)... the track is listed as "Rock & Roll (Part II)" by Gary Glitter - ie. one of the tracks that B&J shoved together to make Doctorin the Tardis. - Andy R. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Karen Slawek Subject: (klf) Re: Small Soldiers Date: 17 Oct 1998 15:18:09 -0400 I've noticed that on "The Big Breakfast" (a breakfast time TV show over here in the UK they use the same tune for their "Steps of Woe" malarky. Maybe it is coming into fashion again. Also, today I picked up a promo 12" by Skinky Pink on Positiva records called "Last Train To Kings Cross" (12TIVDJ99-AA) thinking it to be a rip-off of LTTTC, but no, their plagierism only goes so far as the title.= # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: erik Subject: Re:(klf) The Building will open? Date: 17 Oct 1998 09:20:25 +0200 (MET DST) At 09:26 16.10.98 PDT, tripp millican wrote: >can anyone explain what is going on here? between these couple of >emails and the whole X$X thing this morning, i am thoroughy >confused...what have i somehow missed? anyone? anyone? >tripp everybody is talking about http://members.xoom.com/excessex/stew.htm (and linked pages) -- it's as confusing as it is interesting. Seems like xdollarx got company... or rather a rival... At 10:45 16.10.98 PDT, Bryson Mills wrote: >Ho hum...In case I've had a misconception from day one on the list, >should I reply to "klf@lists.xmission.com" or "klf@xmission.com" >? klf@xmission.com has always worked for me. Me? Something to do with X$X? Never! erik@xdollarx.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Myers10422@aol.com Subject: (klf) klf merchandise. Date: 17 Oct 1998 12:03:37 EDT KLF videos wanted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Please help. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJ KUTS Subject: (klf) Fwd: Re: Hello Date: 19 Oct 1998 03:15:43 -0700 (PDT) ---DJ KUTS wrote: > > Sorry for being so late. > No tapes available. > CD promos have already been sent to the main music > papers, including yours. > This confirms that the British press never learns. > Take a look to your offices, and maybe you will find > the gates of wisdom. > > Anyway, > website and mp3 file will be active on 23rd of > October, and we could still send some mistery cd to > you. > > Meanwhile... > > Viva Viagra! > from the forthcoming album "2987": > http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~markme/ra/vivavi.RA > > In the name of Mu, > The Artists Forever Known As The Justified Ancients > Of Mu Mu > also known as > The JAMS > > > ---Peter_Robinson@ipc.co.uk wrote: > > > > I've heard various people discussing "Viva Viagra". > > > > Would you be able to send me a tape? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > Peter Robinson > > > > MELODY MAKER > > 26th Floor > > Kings Reach Tower > > Stamford Street > > London > > SE1 9LS > > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RUN DMC Subject: Re: (klf) Small Soldiers Date: 19 Oct 1998 13:10:42 GMT+0 > Having cast an eye over the soundtrack CD in a secondhand shop today > (which struck me as an odd place for it to appear since the film isn't > even released here yet, but anyway)... the track is listed as "Rock & > Roll (Part II)" by Gary Glitter - ie. one of the tracks that B&J shoved > together to make Doctorin the Tardis. Rock & Roll (Part II) was also featured on The Full Monty soundtrack. I thought it sounded similar to Gary in the tardis! E-Mail D.Forster1@UCLAN.AC.UK THE.KLF@USA.NET Call Sign M1 DKZ JOTA (Jamboree On The Air) - The Beacons, Frodsham Hill 17-18 October 1998 - Nr The View Nightclub # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Panayiotis Liapis" Subject: (klf) Fwd: The Building will be Opened Date: 19 Oct 1998 03:44:06 PDT Hi friends, here ya go: Make whatever you want out of it, i 'll delete it:) >To: bizzzare_23@hotmail.com >Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 06:24:51 -0700 >From: "The Artist" >Cc: >Reply-To: >Subject: The Building will be Opened > >http://members.xoom.com/excessex > > >Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! >http://www.mailexcite.com > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andy R." Subject: Re: (klf) Fwd: The Building will be Opened Date: 19 Oct 1998 18:44:55 +0000 Also on the subject of pinning down the elusive X$X, I was sharing a drink with m/a/d the other day, and pressed him for info about the banner advert for 'Watch the British Government Burn 765 Million Quid' that was on the T2K site... He became a little evasive, but his story (which he stuck to quite firmly) was that it was a paid advert from a source he would not reveal. - Andy R. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Henrik Subject: (klf) Kalevala/Drummond Article in Siski Date: 19 Oct 1998 20:36:42 +0200 Thought I'd de-lurk for awhile to share an article I found at the university library today. The part about publishing "so-called African music" on Kalevala, presumably as the soundtrack for the second book, sounds interesting. Does anyone have more info on this? /Henrik -- Article lifted from Siski - The Nordic Art Review XIII No1. Spring 1998 The writers name is Mika Hannula True Lies --------- Bill Drummond and Mark Manning's Kalevala Records features tracks by imaginary bands. "It was in late 1992 that we decided it was time, that it was necessary for us to travel to the north pole. It was a period during which I felt that either I achieve this or I die. So we set off with an icon of Elvis, driving from Rovaniemi upwards, knowing nothing about how to get to our destination. It was only at the Norwegian side, at the Ice sea that we realized we are not going to make it, with the sea not frozen and everything. Therefore, the whole trip, as these things tend to do, took a totally different direction". This was the start of a long journey. A journey taken by three adult men, under the umbrella of a concept - Bad Wisdom. There was Bill Drummond, who had just iced his mega-selling KLF project, Mark Manning, also known as Z or Zodiac Mindwarp, and their driver Gimpo. Out of this journey, Drummond and Manning wrote a book called "Lighthouse at the top of the world". A book about the North and Finland that is half facts and the rest something else. The book, the writers thought, needed a soundtrack. And their plan was to release the music that they heard on Finnish radio while driving through the country. As it happened, later, without the context and the state of mind of being on the road, Drummond and Manning found these songs rather boring. So what they did was to invent the bands, write the songs themselves, and hire some Finnish studio musicians. The only thing that was missing was the record label. "Kalevala Records was born because we needed a label to publish the soundtrack. We first asked some existing UK companies to do it, but because they wanted to know about who had the rights and options on further recordings by these bands, bands that do not exist, it all got too complicated, so we did it ourselves." The results, beside the soundtrack, are some wild, exotic recordings by bands like Dracula's Daughter, The Daytonas, known as the fastest band in the world, The Fuckers and Kristina Bruuk. Each 7" vinyl single is issued in a limited edition of 500. Kalevala Records do no promotion or advertising. This interview is actually the first ever given. Their sole agent, who works for Finnmart UK, is called Hannu Myynti (a.k.a Stan Seller), and his fax is often disconnected. The bands created have their own special histories. Kristina Bruuk is an ex-beauty queen and model, originally from Tallin, who had great success in Finland during the '70s. The Fuckers, Drummond's own favorite, are the worlds only Saami punk band. On their hit single, they sing how they hate, absolutely loathe, Helsinki and the south. Alas, a band that could very well exist, but doesn't. And the music, well, as Drummond admits, sometimes the ideas are better than the results. Results, which, all the same, significantly play with and demolish pop myths, illusions and legends. An act that not too many want to hear, because it is more convenient to belive that the Spice Girls are the new feminists, rather than acknowledge that they are a product dreamed up and manufactured by a middle-aged man. "I am very aware that nobody in Finland would form a label called Kalevala. It would be like someone in the UK calling a label Shakespeare or Churchill. Nevertheless, it is exactly this Finnish national romanticism that I like, these raging egos and the pompous music of Sibelius and the paintings of Gallen-Kallela. What we do is not kitsch. I simply loathe kitsch. This is something totally else." But what that "else" is can be difficult to pin down. It is easier to follow the second leg of the journey, which took the boys down to darkest Africa, to the collapsing Mobutu regime in Congo during 1996. "One central theme of the whole Bad Wisdom project is that we made a pact with the devil. Now we wanted our souls back and we first looked for them around Europe. This did not work out. Then we realized they might be found in the heart of Africa. We had to get to the beginning of the tree of knowledge. So we flew to Kinshasa, again knowing nothing about where we would land." "So it was like flying into hell. The whole country was a mess, there was no authority, gangs with guns ruled and made money arresting people on the spot, especially foreigners. There was a constant feeling that we could be slaughtered. And because there was no road transport, we had to take a river boat from Kinshasa to Kisingami. The trip took us almost a month, and all that in a third-class seat." Currently, Drummond and Manning are writing the Congo book, which does not yet have a name. Drummond has also recently published a book called "Watch the K Foundation Burn A Million Quid", which reports this act, and asks various people ranging from connoisseurs to schoolmasters and bricklayers what the whole thing was about.With the other half of the K empire, Jimmy Cauty, they are also starting a project under the name "K2 Plant Hire Limited", about which Drummond is ready to say no more than that it is not about music. Presumably their taste in music was satisfied with the Acid Brass - Fuck the Millennium [...Not quite Mr Hannula /Henrik] one off event last fall. But what about Kalevala Records? Is it just an exotic joke, or will their interest last? "Well, it will go on until there is the creative thing in it, and we are later going to publish some of the so-called African music, also on Kalevala. This might sound horrible, but I do not want to be commercially successful with it, I just want it to be out there. I got out of the pop business because I did not like it. So what we are now doing is trying not to get too close to the enemy, which is very very hard. In a way, it is a pointless task." End of Article; -><- No, Keep Running! It's Going To Be Big! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Henrik Subject: (klf) Kalevala/Drummond Article in Siski Date: 19 Oct 1998 20:36:42 +0200 Thought I'd de-lurk for awhile to share an article I found at the university library today. The part about publishing "so-called African music" on Kalevala, presumably as the soundtrack for the second book, sounds interesting. Does anyone have more info on this? /Henrik -- Article lifted from Siski - The Nordic Art Review XIII No1. Spring 1998 The writers name is Mika Hannula True Lies --------- Bill Drummond and Mark Manning's Kalevala Records features tracks by imaginary bands. "It was in late 1992 that we decided it was time, that it was necessary for us to travel to the north pole. It was a period during which I felt that either I achieve this or I die. So we set off with an icon of Elvis, driving from Rovaniemi upwards, knowing nothing about how to get to our destination. It was only at the Norwegian side, at the Ice sea that we realized we are not going to make it, with the sea not frozen and everything. Therefore, the whole trip, as these things tend to do, took a totally different direction". This was the start of a long journey. A journey taken by three adult men, under the umbrella of a concept - Bad Wisdom. There was Bill Drummond, who had just iced his mega-selling KLF project, Mark Manning, also known as Z or Zodiac Mindwarp, and their driver Gimpo. Out of this journey, Drummond and Manning wrote a book called "Lighthouse at the top of the world". A book about the North and Finland that is half facts and the rest something else. The book, the writers thought, needed a soundtrack. And their plan was to release the music that they heard on Finnish radio while driving through the country. As it happened, later, without the context and the state of mind of being on the road, Drummond and Manning found these songs rather boring. So what they did was to invent the bands, write the songs themselves, and hire some Finnish studio musicians. The only thing that was missing was the record label. "Kalevala Records was born because we needed a label to publish the soundtrack. We first asked some existing UK companies to do it, but because they wanted to know about who had the rights and options on further recordings by these bands, bands that do not exist, it all got too complicated, so we did it ourselves." The results, beside the soundtrack, are some wild, exotic recordings by bands like Dracula's Daughter, The Daytonas, known as the fastest band in the world, The Fuckers and Kristina Bruuk. Each 7" vinyl single is issued in a limited edition of 500. Kalevala Records do no promotion or advertising. This interview is actually the first ever given. Their sole agent, who works for Finnmart UK, is called Hannu Myynti (a.k.a Stan Seller), and his fax is often disconnected. The bands created have their own special histories. Kristina Bruuk is an ex-beauty queen and model, originally from Tallin, who had great success in Finland during the '70s. The Fuckers, Drummond's own favorite, are the worlds only Saami punk band. On their hit single, they sing how they hate, absolutely loathe, Helsinki and the south. Alas, a band that could very well exist, but doesn't. And the music, well, as Drummond admits, sometimes the ideas are better than the results. Results, which, all the same, significantly play with and demolish pop myths, illusions and legends. An act that not too many want to hear, because it is more convenient to belive that the Spice Girls are the new feminists, rather than acknowledge that they are a product dreamed up and manufactured by a middle-aged man. "I am very aware that nobody in Finland would form a label called Kalevala. It would be like someone in the UK calling a label Shakespeare or Churchill. Nevertheless, it is exactly this Finnish national romanticism that I like, these raging egos and the pompous music of Sibelius and the paintings of Gallen-Kallela. What we do is not kitsch. I simply loathe kitsch. This is something totally else." But what that "else" is can be difficult to pin down. It is easier to follow the second leg of the journey, which took the boys down to darkest Africa, to the collapsing Mobutu regime in Congo during 1996. "One central theme of the whole Bad Wisdom project is that we made a pact with the devil. Now we wanted our souls back and we first looked for them around Europe. This did not work out. Then we realized they might be found in the heart of Africa. We had to get to the beginning of the tree of knowledge. So we flew to Kinshasa, again knowing nothing about where we would land." "So it was like flying into hell. The whole country was a mess, there was no authority, gangs with guns ruled and made money arresting people on the spot, especially foreigners. There was a constant feeling that we could be slaughtered. And because there was no road transport, we had to take a river boat from Kinshasa to Kisingami. The trip took us almost a month, and all that in a third-class seat." Currently, Drummond and Manning are writing the Congo book, which does not yet have a name. Drummond has also recently published a book called "Watch the K Foundation Burn A Million Quid", which reports this act, and asks various people ranging from connoisseurs to schoolmasters and bricklayers what the whole thing was about.With the other half of the K empire, Jimmy Cauty, they are also starting a project under the name "K2 Plant Hire Limited", about which Drummond is ready to say no more than that it is not about music. Presumably their taste in music was satisfied with the Acid Brass - Fuck the Millennium [...Not quite Mr Hannula /Henrik] one off event last fall. But what about Kalevala Records? Is it just an exotic joke, or will their interest last? "Well, it will go on until there is the creative thing in it, and we are later going to publish some of the so-called African music, also on Kalevala. This might sound horrible, but I do not want to be commercially successful with it, I just want it to be out there. I got out of the pop business because I did not like it. So what we are now doing is trying not to get too close to the enemy, which is very very hard. In a way, it is a pointless task." End of Article; -><- No, Keep Running! It's Going To Be Big! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Trancentral.Dome.99@t-online.de (Jens Rößger) Subject: (klf)X$X Date: 19 Oct 1998 22:35:04 +0200 X$X # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Trancentral.Dome.99@t-online.de (Jens Rößger) Subject: (klf) Test Date: 19 Oct 1998 22:19:22 +0200 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Sallstrom Subject: (klf) KLF on the radio :) Date: 19 Oct 1998 23:41:04 +0100 Just as I'm reading the KLF-post, the White room version of 3AME is played on the Swedish radio channel P3. Nice..! /Johan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Trancentral.Dome.99@t-online.de (Jens Rößger) Subject: (klf) X$X Date: 19 Oct 1998 22:02:02 +0200 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rene Virsik Subject: (klf) Drummond & Cauty on front page of Slovak newspapers ! Date: 20 Oct 1998 00:17:03 +0200 (CEST) Heya all ! Jimy Cauty's and Bill Drummond's photo with horns was published today on the cover of Slovak greatest newspaper SME !!! No text - only black&white photo.... What does it mean ???? When I saw it I was shoked ! Bye ! Rene (KLF) o o \___/ (o o) . , . WE CAME A LONG TIME AGO . \ ` ' / . WE CAME FROM UP ABOVE ._` __^__ '_. [() ()] /_____\ E-mail: virsik@sco.svf.stuba.sk Oooo. Justified .oooO ( ) \ ( (_/ \_) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Xav Subject: (klf) Inrockuptibles Top 100 Date: 20 Oct 1998 00:18:40 +0200 Went to see the Inrockuptibles magazine on the net, which is the biggest music review magazine here in France. http://www.inrockuptibles.com They have a 1986-1996 Top 100 set up, and The KLF are at number 67 with The White Room. Not bad, but i which they had reviewed Chill Out too, which i think should be in the top 10. Oh well Cheers Xav # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m u t e" Subject: (klf) Tracy Tracey Date: 19 Oct 1998 19:15:28 PDT Ulrik asked: >Could Tracy Brynn be Tracey from Bad Wisdom???? Yes; also backing singer on Bill's solo LP. Mute. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Hedberg Subject: (klf) T-shirts--->Latest update (again...) Date: 20 Oct 1998 10:16:39 +0200 Ok, guys, tomorrow is _the_ day. Production starts tomorrow and is set to finish next friday. Just wanted you to know. =) /Johan AB Upsala Nya Tidning E-mail: johan.hedberg@unt.se Johan Hedberg Fax: +46 - 18 - 478 14 76 UNT Fredag Tel: +46 - 18 - 478 11 23 Box 36 Mobil: +46 - 70 - 473 15 75 S - 751 03 Uppsala Sweden _____________________________ Free Kevin Mitnick! http://www.KevinMitnick.com _____________________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ee52kt@ee.surrey.ac.uk (Kyle M Thompson) Subject: Re: (klf) Tracy Tracey Date: 20 Oct 1998 12:44:40 +0100 (BST) what, as in tracey from the primitives? wasn't crash a great song, by the by. kt # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Graphics Geezer" Subject: (klf) Re: The Building will be Opened Date: 20 Oct 1998 11:07:01 +0000 Watch the British Government Burn 765 Million Quid I thought that was a reference to our beloved Millenium Dome. But why would somebody (ahem) *pay* to put a banner on a site that had not opened? Or associate with a site that had done nothing but run behind it's own much publicised schedule? More double play I reckon. I know where my finger points. MH. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: klf@cracl.demon.co.uk (Smiley) Subject: (klf) Re: The Building will be Opened Date: 20 Oct 1998 16:29:25 GMT Andy R. writes: > I was sharing a drink with m/a/d the other day, and pressed him for info > about the banner advert for 'Watch the British Government Burn 765 Million > Quid' that was on the T2K site... He became a little evasive, but his story > (which he stuck to quite firmly) was that it was a paid advert from a > source he would not reveal. well... ...that'll be a dig at the millenium dome then. could be anybody, but i would suspect Mark Thomas (or someone connected). probably TOTALLY wrong, but there ya go... ta ta. -- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Ashkenazi Subject: (klf) Doctorin' The Tardis CD3's! Date: 20 Oct 1998 23:19:00 +0200 Hi ppl, While surfing the net and looking for KLF and related items, I found the following site: http://shill.simplenet.com/dw/other.htm I didn't really read all of it, but I understand that it's contain some information about various music releases that contain the "Dr. Who" theme. Anyway, the interesting thing is that according to the site there are two Timelords CD3 releases. (on the discograpy there is only one!) But they both have the same catalog number?! Anyway, here are the scanned pictures of the Timelords CD3's in both versions: The discography version: http://shill.simplenet.com/dw/other21.jpg The other version: http://shill.simplenet.com/dw/other22.jpg Both of the back covers: (other version is on the right) http://shill.simplenet.com/dw/other23.jpg Btw: Take a look at the other version track-list, is it club or dub? =) Cheers, David A. -- __________________________________ David Ashkenazi, Tel-Aviv, Israel. IRC nickname: "Boredman". Phone: 971-3-6875091 adavid@inter.net.il ICQ: 13255725 13255725@pager.mirabilis.com http://wwp.mirabilis.com/13255725 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Ashkenazi Subject: (klf) Still on the Timelords releases subject! Date: 20 Oct 1998 23:43:39 +0200 Hi again ppl, Sorry, I forgot to mention this on my previous email, this is not on the site that I've talked about before. This is something that I've ordered from someone and that is also listed on www5.cddb.com "CD Data Base". There is another version of the "Doctorin' The Tardis" CD-Single that is missing from the discography, is it a bootleg? is it a reissue? All I know for now is the track-list: 1.Doctorin' the Tardis (radio mix) 2.Doctorin' the Tardis (mega mix) 3.Doctorin' the Tardis (instrumental) 4.Gary in the Tardis (radio mix) 5.Gary in the Tardis (minal mix) 6.Gary joins the J.A.M.S (EEC CD-Singles?) I'll know more information when I'll receive my copy. Cheers, David A. -- __________________________________ David Ashkenazi, Tel-Aviv, Israel. IRC nickname: "Boredman". Phone: 971-3-6875091 adavid@inter.net.il ICQ: 13255725 13255725@pager.mirabilis.com http://wwp.mirabilis.com/13255725 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Albert" Subject: (klf) chillout Date: 20 Oct 1998 23:58:11 +0200 hi, does anybody know the origin of the melody on the chillout cd, song #12 (A Melody From A Past Life Keeps Pulling Me Back)? I only know that it is a oldy and sounds exactly the same as on the klf album. thanks dan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jerry Quartley Subject: Re: (klf) chillout Date: 20 Oct 1998 19:03:36 -0400 Daniel Albert wrote: > > hi, > > does anybody know the origin of the melody on the chillout cd, song #12 > (A Melody From A Past Life Keeps Pulling Me Back)? I only know that it > is a oldy and sounds exactly the same as on the klf album. Ahh, "Stranger on the Shore" by Acker Bilk. It was one of my grandmother's favorite songs. This guy has a WAV file of it at http://www.geocities.com/Eureka/Park/9293/ -- "People often confuse difficulty with time." ==================================================== Jerry Quartley.....................jrq@interport.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Doctorin' The Tardis CD3's! Date: 20 Oct 1998 21:58:34 EDT > Anyway, the interesting thing is that according to the site there are > two Timelords CD3 releases. (on the discograpy there is only one!) But > they both have the same catalog number?! Anyway, here are the scanned > pictures of the Timelords CD3's in both versions: > > The discography version: > http://shill.simplenet.com/dw/other21.jpg CD3: 1988 US (TVT Records TVT 4024-CD3) 3:37 Doctorin' The Tardis (7" mix) 8:15 Doctorin' The Tardis (12" mix) 6:22 Gary Joins The JAMS [mislabeled "Gary In The Tardis"] > The other version: > http://shill.simplenet.com/dw/other22.jpg 3.42 Doctorin' The Tardis 4.33 Doctorin' The Tardis (dub mix) 6.33 Gary In The Tardis > Btw: Take a look at the other version track-list, is it club or dub? =) That would be dub. I happen to have this second version of the single. The track times I've included above. The dub mix sound like the minimal version to my ears, but I'd have to do a closer check. Which is the more common version, I wonder? -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jarrod5083@aol.com Subject: (klf) Sabotage Chill out Date: 20 Oct 1998 23:14:39 EDT i happened to notice this cd, Sabotage Chill out. Is this the famed Chill Out Tribute with the wolves? Jarrod # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: klf@cracl.demon.co.uk (Smiley) Subject: (klf) Re: Still on the Timelords releases subject! Date: 21 Oct 1998 10:21:44 GMT David Ashkenazi writes: > This is something that I've ordered from someone and that is also listed on > www5.cddb.com "CD Data Base". All I know for now is the track-list: > 1.Doctorin' the Tardis (radio mix) > 2.Doctorin' the Tardis (mega mix) > 3.Doctorin' the Tardis (instrumental) > 4.Gary in the Tardis (radio mix) > 5.Gary in the Tardis (minal mix) > 6.Gary joins the J.A.M.S i have this. it's a european pressing - dutch, i think. l8r. -- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "m u t e" Subject: Re: (klf) Tracy Tracey Date: 21 Oct 1998 12:13:25 PDT >what, as in tracey from the primitives? wasn't crash a great song, by >the by. No, Tracy from Voice Of The Beehive, as Bill does mention in The Lighthouse At The Top Of The World. Tracey from the Primitives is, according to Rich Poppie in a BRA interview last year, working as a hat-check girl in some non-London English nightclub. And Sick Of It was better. Mute! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John.C.S.Quel" Subject: Re: (klf) Re: The Building will be Opened Date: 22 Oct 1998 20:28:52 +0100 Smiley writes >> I was sharing a drink with m/a/d the other day, and pressed him for info >> about the banner advert for 'Watch the British Government Burn 765 Million >> Quid' that was on the T2K site... He became a little evasive, but his story >> (which he stuck to quite firmly) was that it was a paid advert from a >> source he would not reveal. > >well... > >...that'll be a dig at the millenium dome then. > >could be anybody, but i would suspect Mark Thomas (or someone connected). I very much doubt that Mark Thomas himself was involved in funding that but I most definitely can find out in order to count him out from the possible candidates (Mr. Mandelson`s also out of the running I suppose!) The first of the updated Mark Thomas Comedy Product repeats of the second series started on Channel 4 last week and that was the one about the Millennium Dome. Coming up is an updated episode with the Rocket Launcher outside Westminster Abbey with "The Magnificent" as the soundtrack and in next week`s show (the radioactive seagull shit spectacular from Sellafield) there should be a rendition of "Chill Out song #12" aka 'A Melody From A Past Life Keeps Pulling Me Back' There`s also a midi file of "Stranger on the Shore" that I found somewhere and saved to disk. In fact I`ve found quite a few songs in midi format that the KLF have utilised. Maybe someone could edit them together as a KLF remix or something? I`ve also, found two midi versions of The Magnificent Seven theme that some enterprising soul might be able to make a bit more like the Bill and Jimmy version? AFAIK MT still hasn`t seen the actual finished copy of the pilot interview show ("The Cutting Room") that he did with Bill Drummond back in March last year. I`ll try and find out who the production company were or if he can finally get a copy that could be erm... disseminated to a more accepting audience. +--------------------------------+ |The UPDATED GeNeTiCaLlY MoDiFiEd| | Mark Thomas Comedy Product | | http://bounce.to/MTCP | +--------------------------------+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dekoy A/K/A Decoy" Subject: (klf) KLF mORBid Auction Date: 22 Oct 1998 15:36:01 PDT due to the disappointing response to the auction, i have decided to extend it to sunday and email the list to the group: The JAMS: Burn The Beat 12": 1988 (TVT Records, TVT 4041) pic sleeve $20 by adavid@inter.net.il (V1)What Time Is Love? (pure trance original)12": 1988 UK (KLF Communications; KLF 004T) $13 by nv95salj@aso.edu.stockholm.se (V2)What Time Is Love? (pure trance original) 12": 1989 US (TVT Records; TVT 4071) W/L T/P $20 by adavid@inter.net.il (V1)Disco 2000: Uptight (Everything's Alright) 12": 1989 UK (KLF Communications; D2003T) W/L T/P M$10 (V2)Disco 2000: Uptight (Everything's Alright) 12": 1989 UK (KLF Communications; D2003T) M$10 Kylie Said To Jason 12": 1989 UK (KLF Communications; KLF 010T) $21 by sc7606@bris.ac.uk Chill Out LP: 1991 US (WaxTrax! Records; WAX 7155)W/sticker on cover M$10 Space LP: 1990 UK (KLF Communications; SPACE LP1) $28 by nv95salj@aso.edu.stockholm.se (V3)What Time Is Love? (live a.T)12": 1990 US (WaxTrax! Records; WAX 9157) M$6 (V4)What Time Is Love? 12": 1990 GE (Blow Up/Intercord; INT 125.790) M$20 (V1)3 a.m. Eternal (s.s.l.) 12": 1991 US (Arista; AD-2231) sealed M$5 America: What Time Is Love? 12": 1992 UK (KLF Communications; KLF USA 4X) M$10 JAMs: It's Grim Up North 12": 1991 UK (KLF Communications; JAMS 028 R)italian promo punch M$10 Justified and Ancient 12": 1991 UK (KLF Communications; KLF 099X) M$7 RELATED Lori & The Chameleons: Touch 12": 1981 UK (Korova/WEA KOW 20T) M$5 (V1)Moody Boys: Lion Dance 12": 1991 US (Fourth Floor Records FF1123) M$6 Moody Boys Introducing Screamer: What Is Dub?: 12" 1991 UK (Love/Polydor; EVOLX 3) M$6 COVERS (V1)D.F.X.: Relax Your Body 12": 1989 IT (London Street/Full Time; FTM-31633)M$15 (V1)D.F.X.: Relax Your Body 12": 1989 GER (ZYX Records; ZYX 6206-12) $20 by adavid@inter.net.il Illuminatus: What Time Is Love? 12: 1995 GER(DMD Recordings; DMD 23040)clear vinyl M$12 DJ SERVICE REMIXES (V2)3am Eternal: 12": 199? US (Hitmix; HM 02)M$5 (V3)3am Eternal: 12": 199? US (Metromix; GT-10)M$5 (V5)What Time Is Love?: 12": 199? US (PowerHouse; PH 007)M$5 CDs History Of The JAMS a.k.a. The Timelords CD: 1988 US (TVT Records; TVT 4040 CD) original errored pressing M$10 3A.M. Eternal CD5: 1991 US (Arista; ASCD-2230) (Promo) $10 by junkculture@cyberport.com Justified and Ancient CD5: 1992 US (Arista; 07822-12403-2)M$5 Additional Communicators -- other related releases SFX: Lemmings CD5: 1993 UK (Synthetic/Parlophone; CDR 6343) M$10 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dekoy A/K/A Decoy" Subject: (klf) KLF mORBid Auction Date: 22 Oct 1998 15:35:44 PDT due to the disappointing response to the auction, i have decided to extend it to sunday and email the list to the group: The JAMS: Burn The Beat 12": 1988 (TVT Records, TVT 4041) pic sleeve $20 by adavid@inter.net.il (V1)What Time Is Love? (pure trance original)12": 1988 UK (KLF Communications; KLF 004T) $13 by nv95salj@aso.edu.stockholm.se (V2)What Time Is Love? (pure trance original) 12": 1989 US (TVT Records; TVT 4071) W/L T/P $20 by adavid@inter.net.il (V1)Disco 2000: Uptight (Everything's Alright) 12": 1989 UK (KLF Communications; D2003T) W/L T/P M$10 (V2)Disco 2000: Uptight (Everything's Alright) 12": 1989 UK (KLF Communications; D2003T) M$10 Kylie Said To Jason 12": 1989 UK (KLF Communications; KLF 010T) $21 by sc7606@bris.ac.uk Chill Out LP: 1991 US (WaxTrax! Records; WAX 7155)W/sticker on cover M$10 Space LP: 1990 UK (KLF Communications; SPACE LP1) $28 by nv95salj@aso.edu.stockholm.se (V3)What Time Is Love? (live a.T)12": 1990 US (WaxTrax! Records; WAX 9157) M$6 (V4)What Time Is Love? 12": 1990 GE (Blow Up/Intercord; INT 125.790) M$20 (V1)3 a.m. Eternal (s.s.l.) 12": 1991 US (Arista; AD-2231) sealed M$5 America: What Time Is Love? 12": 1992 UK (KLF Communications; KLF USA 4X) M$10 JAMs: It's Grim Up North 12": 1991 UK (KLF Communications; JAMS 028 R)italian promo punch M$10 Justified and Ancient 12": 1991 UK (KLF Communications; KLF 099X) M$7 RELATED Lori & The Chameleons: Touch 12": 1981 UK (Korova/WEA KOW 20T) M$5 (V1)Moody Boys: Lion Dance 12": 1991 US (Fourth Floor Records FF1123) M$6 Moody Boys Introducing Screamer: What Is Dub?: 12" 1991 UK (Love/Polydor; EVOLX 3) M$6 COVERS (V1)D.F.X.: Relax Your Body 12": 1989 IT (London Street/Full Time; FTM-31633)M$15 (V1)D.F.X.: Relax Your Body 12": 1989 GER (ZYX Records; ZYX 6206-12) $20 by adavid@inter.net.il Illuminatus: What Time Is Love? 12: 1995 GER(DMD Recordings; DMD 23040)clear vinyl M$12 DJ SERVICE REMIXES (V2)3am Eternal: 12": 199? US (Hitmix; HM 02)M$5 (V3)3am Eternal: 12": 199? US (Metromix; GT-10)M$5 (V5)What Time Is Love?: 12": 199? US (PowerHouse; PH 007)M$5 CDs History Of The JAMS a.k.a. The Timelords CD: 1988 US (TVT Records; TVT 4040 CD) original errored pressing M$10 3A.M. Eternal CD5: 1991 US (Arista; ASCD-2230) (Promo) $10 by junkculture@cyberport.com Justified and Ancient CD5: 1992 US (Arista; 07822-12403-2)M$5 Additional Communicators -- other related releases SFX: Lemmings CD5: 1993 UK (Synthetic/Parlophone; CDR 6343) M$10 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: klf@cracl.demon.co.uk (Smiley) Subject: (klf) Re: The Building will be Opened Date: 23 Oct 1998 03:11:49 GMT "John.C.S.Quel" writes: > Smiley writes > >> I was sharing a drink with m/a/d the other day, and pressed him for info > >> about the banner advert for 'Watch the British Government Burn 765 Million > >> Quid' that was on the T2K site... He became a little evasive, but his story > >> (which he stuck to quite firmly) was that it was a paid advert from a > >> source he would not reveal. > > > >well... > > > >...that'll be a dig at the millenium dome then. > > > >could be anybody, but i would suspect Mark Thomas (or someone connected). > > I very much doubt that Mark Thomas himself was involved in funding that > but I most definitely can find out in order to count him out from the > possible candidates (Mr. Mandelson`s also out of the running I suppose!) > The first of the updated Mark Thomas Comedy Product repeats of the > second series started on Channel 4 last week and that was the one about > the Millennium Dome. actually, that was what had triggered the thought - watching it the night before...just a VERY wild guess... btw, saw Jimmi C at the Orb aftershow drinkies at the Royal Albert Hall tonight. Youth was there too. when they stood next to each other, it looked like an old 'Brillian' picture sleeve...! ;-) l8r. -- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christian Villum Subject: Re: (klf) KLF mORBid Auction Date: 23 Oct 1998 18:52:31 +0100 Hey Johan... How about using info (prices) from this auction in your KLF-price compilation? Just a thought... Christian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Blake" Subject: Re: (klf) chillout Date: 23 Oct 1998 16:16:29 +0100 -----Original Message----- >Ahh, "Stranger on the Shore" by Acker Bilk. It was one of my >grandmother's favorite songs. Yeah, I have an old crackly 45 of it that my Gran let me have, nice! It was a big hit apparently. Phil.. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: (klf) Tony Thorpe Remixes Date: 23 Oct 1998 14:44:12 -0500 This is new release that you can purchase at Roughtrade. DUB/DIGI DUB ETC digi dub remixes by tony thorpe/nuf cd 11.99 12.99 http://www.roughtrade.com "Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry." D. Banner DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dekoy A/K/A Decoy" Subject: (klf) Re:KLF mORBid Auction Update Date: 23 Oct 1998 22:16:35 PDT thanx for everybody who has responded so far, this auction is now officially rolling! here's a current listing of price for the KLF related goodies. http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Nebula/7129/ and a note for you KLHeffers that i have added these late findings: The JAMMs: All You Need Is Love 12": 1987 UK (The Sound Of Mu(sic) JAMS 23T) [x5000; in James Anderton ps] M$30 Disco 2000: One Love Nation 12": 1988 UK (KLF Communications; D2002) M$15 (V0)KLF: 3 a.m. Eternal (pure trance original) 12": 1991 UK (KLF Communications; KLF 005T) [reissue; 15 Jul 91 w/UPC Code?]M$15 on to the current bids: The JAMMs: All You Need Is Love 12": 1987 UK (The Sound Of Mu(sic) JAMS 23T) [x5000; in James Anderton ps] M$30 The JAMS: Burn The Beat 12": 1988 (TVT Records, TVT 4041) pic sleeve $20 by adavid@inter.net.il Disco 2000: One Love Nation 12": 1988 UK (KLF Communications; D2002) M$15 (V1)What Time Is Love? (pure trance original)12": 1988 UK (KLF Communications; KLF 004T) $13 by nv95salj@aso.edu.stockholm.se (V2)What Time Is Love? (pure trance original) 12": 1989 US (TVT Records; TVT 4071) W/L T/P $20 by adavid@inter.net.il (V1)Disco 2000: Uptight (Everything's Alright) 12": 1989 UK (KLF Communications; D2003T) W/L T/P M$10 (V2)Disco 2000: Uptight (Everything's Alright) 12": 1989 UK (KLF Communications; D2003T) M$10 (V0)3 a.m. Eternal (pure trance original) 12": 1991 UK (KLF Communications; KLF 005T) [reissue; 15 Jul 91 w/UPC Code?]M$15 Kylie Said To Jason 12": 1989 UK (KLF Communications; KLF 010T) $21 by sc7606@bris.ac.uk Chill Out LP: 1991 US (WaxTrax! Records; WAX 7155)W/sticker on cover $10 by Space LP: 1990 UK (KLF Communications; SPACE LP1) $31 by kaeld@library.uwa.edu.au (V3)What Time Is Love? (live a.T)12": 1990 US (WaxTrax! Records; WAX 9157) M$6 (V4)What Time Is Love? 12": 1990 GE (Blow Up/Intercord; INT 125.790) M$20 (V1)3 a.m. Eternal (s.s.l.) 12": 1991 US (Arista; AD-2231) sealed $6 by adavid@inter.net.il America: What Time Is Love? 12": 1992 UK (KLF Communications; KLF USA 4X) M$10 JAMs: It's Grim Up North 12": 1991 UK (KLF Communications; JAMS 028 R)italian promo punch M$10 Justified and Ancient 12": 1991 UK (KLF Communications; KLF 099X) M$7 RELATED Lori & The Chameleons: Touch 12": 1981 UK (Korova/WEA KOW 20T) M$5 (V1)Moody Boys: Lion Dance 12": 1991 US (Fourth Floor Records FF1123) M$6 Moody Boys Introducing Screamer: What Is Dub?: 12" 1991 UK (Love/Polydor; EVOLX 3) M$6 COVERS (V1)D.F.X.: Relax Your Body 12": 1989 IT (London Street/Full Time; FTM-31633)M$15 (V1)D.F.X.: Relax Your Body 12": 1989 GER (ZYX Records; ZYX 6206-12) $20 by adavid@inter.net.il Illuminatus: What Time Is Love? 12: 1995 GER(DMD Recordings; DMD 23040)clear vinyl M$12 DJ SERVICE REMIXES (V2)3am Eternal: 12": 199? US (Hitmix; HM 02)$10 bynelleman@biobase.dk (V3)3am Eternal: 12": 199? US (Metromix; GT-10)$10 by nelleman@biobase.dk (V5)What Time Is Love?: 12": 199? US (PowerHouse; PH 007)$10 by nelleman@biobase.dk Cds History Of The JAMS a.k.a. The Timelords CD: 1988 US (TVT Records; TVT 4040 CD) original errored pressing M$10 3A.M. Eternal CD5: 1991 US (Arista; ASCD-2230) (Promo) $10 by junkculture@cyberport.com Justified and Ancient CD5: 1992 US (Arista; 07822-12403-2)M$5 Additional Communicators -- other related releases SFX: Lemmings CD5: 1993 UK (Synthetic/Parlophone; CDR 6343) M$10 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Blake" Subject: (klf) Wicker Man CD Date: 24 Oct 1998 18:54:54 +0100 A while back there was some discussion about The Wicker Man soundtrack. A friend of mine recently found a copy and did me a tape of it. What a load of Bollocks! How much is it suppose to be worth now?? Phil. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Torsten Pattberg" Subject: (klf) The manual (once again) Date: 24 Oct 1998 20:56:01 +0200 Here is the german online version of the soon released german manual. http://www.subaudio.net/wortfeld/ Torsten # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Raphael Cockx" Subject: (klf) Introduction Date: 26 Oct 1998 12:26:17 +0100 Hi, I'm neatly following the rules here and introducing myself. First of all, I had been on this list for about 3 years, before serious problems with my E-mail forced me off round about april '98. And, so now I'm back, with a brand new E-mail address and hopefully less troubles. I'm a 22 year old student, doing an MBA at the university of Antwerp (Belgium), following a degree in communication sciences. And all the rest, well, I guess you'll find that out soon enough. Oh yes, if someone would be so kind to inform me (through private mail) of the most important things I've missed, that would be great. Especially concerning TWROST and 2K ;-) It's good to be back ! Raphael # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Simon Subject: (klf) test Date: 27 Oct 1998 10:17:46 +0000 (GMT) Simon Clabburn sc7606@bristol.ac.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Britain P. Woodman" Subject: (klf) K-F referenced in Bad Art article Date: 27 Oct 1998 20:40:37 -0500 (EST) http://dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/od/story.html?s=v/nm/19981027/od/artists_1.html Here's the relevant bit: The $33,300 Turner prize, won in the past by a pickled sheep and a wrestling video, sparks controversy every year and 1998 is no exception. The prize has been mocked by critics as a pretentious publicity stunt but the annual display of the shortlist at London's Tate Gallery regularly attracts up to 80,000 visitors. The winner, certain to win instant international fame or notoriety, is announced on December 1. After attending the press view of the four artists contesting the prize Tuesday, outspoken art critic Brian Sewell concluded: ``This year is worse than ever. It has absolutely no merit. ``It is dull, silly and trifling. I am in favor of the idea of the prize but am appalled by the execution,'' said. In 1995, media interest reached new heights when Damien Hirst, the enfant terrible of British art, won the award with a pickled sheep. In 1993, art pranksters were so angered that they set up an alternative award for the worst work of the year. Both their award and the Turner prize were won by Rachel Whiteread. Britain. -- Britain P. Woodman - britain@cardhouse.com - www.nnaf.net/~bpw - AIM: Tecnix1200 The man who can sing when he hasn't got a thing, he's the king of the whole wide world. - Elvis! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: simon bradbury Subject: Re: (klf) K-F referenced in Bad Art article Date: 28 Oct 1998 02:52:00 -0800 (PST) i thought this might come up.... > After attending the press view of the four artists contesting the prize > Tuesday, outspoken art critic Brian Sewell concluded: ``This year is worse > than ever. It has absolutely no merit. > > ``It is dull, silly and trifling. I am in favor of the idea of the prize > but am appalled by the execution,'' said. Brian Sewell is a fucking idiot!!! - he dismisses all modern art as rubbish in every article he writes in the london evening standard.... he`s also a big moaner as well, his current cause is his opposition to the proposed princess diana memorial garden in posho kensington where he lives, cos it might get a bit busy with tourists (as if it isn`t already). > In 1993, art pranksters were so angered that they set up an alternative > award for the worst work of the year. Both their award and the Turner > prize were won by Rachel Whiteread. there is also an alternative turner prize this year, although it`s nothing to do with the KLF. it`s being hosted by a friend of mine at who runs an art magazine and it`s at the vauxhall tavern on the same night as the turner prize award ceremony. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Reed, Mark" Subject: (klf) Wicker Man CD Date: 28 Oct 1998 11:07:05 -0000 The Wicker Man CD is only worth around =A312. The limited edition vinyl version is currently worth c. =A3130. And it's really good, so yah boo sucks! Mark P.S. Marshall said he was posting out TWROST a few weeks back. Has anyone received their copies yet? P.P.S. In the boot of my car, I have a mangled copy of I-D magazine = from two years ago with a piece about Jimmy and his Sonic Weapon. Is this in the public domain, or shall I scan it in and post it somewhere. This message is confidential and for use by the addressee only. If the message is received by anyone other than the addressee, please return the message to the sender by replying to it and then delete the message from your computer. 'Internet communications are not secure. The Royal Bank of Scotland plc does not accept responsibility for changes made to this message after it was sent.' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lars Nellemann" Subject: (klf) TWOST, Marshall and mp3 collections Date: 28 Oct 1998 17:23:57 +0100 >P.S. Marshall said he was posting out TWROST a few weeks back. Has >anyone received their copies yet? Nope - I haven't What's wrong with this Marshall - two or three times he has posted a message that now the TWROST was ready for delivery, them two months pass - and he post the same message again. Please Marshall - do you have the CD we paid for 6 months ago ? When I deal with people I send them, their stuff right away. Anyway I managed to get a Nice copy of TWOST from another source - and it is on the MP3 collections - check out this page for tracklistings: http://www.image.dk/~biotech4/klf/klfmp3.htm Lars # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nick Subject: (klf) Digestive Buiscits Date: 28 Oct 1998 19:48:30 +0000 (GMT) Just to let u all know that I'm not going to be so active ion the list in the near future as my uni acount expires soon. I'm going to digest and may rear my font from time to time in the near future (until I get another ISP) In emergencies (new tour, Black Room officially released, etc) I can be gotten at nicholas.j.gilmour@uk.pwcglobal.com In the meantime, I'll slink back into my place of concealment to await the publication of the Manual, the next Bad Wisdom installment and even TWROST from Marshall and I also wonder if I'll ever get that 12" that Dutton promised me months ago :) If I hear anything I'll keep you posted OH, yeah, I've still got all the info to update the FAQ and promise I'll get to it soon... Anyways, bye for now NIk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ("KLF archivist-of-information") Nick Gilmour E-Mail: nicholas.j.gilmour@uk.pwcglobal.com WWW: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dgilmour/nick.htm KLF FAQ: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dgilmour/klf-faq.txt ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ And with that the boy dropped his mail into the box and walked away, his pocket that bit emptier, his step that bit jauntier. cu4now . # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Thorne, Chris" Subject: (klf) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:16:54 -0500 Date: 28 Oct 1998 13:20:16 -0700 Has Anyone else gotting any of these Discs? Anyone have anymore info on this? Anyway I managed to get a Nice copy of TWOST from another source - and it is on the MP3 collections - check out this page for tracklistings: http://www.image.dk/~biotech4/klf/klfmp3.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Poraz Subject: Re: (klf) America, what time is love. Date: 28 Oct 1998 22:39:01 +0200 > I have a 3inch Japanese import CD of What time is love/America What time > is Love. Is this rare and if so what kind of price range are they > selling for? I bought it in a London shop a few years ago for about 5 UKP. It's nice, but the two tracks are not among the rarest, to say the least. Michael Poraz # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) TWOST, Marshall and mp3 collections Date: 28 Oct 1998 18:08:02 EST > Please Marshall - do you have the CD we paid for 6 months ago ? 6 months? Hell, it's been a LOT longer for most of us! > Anyway I managed to get a Nice copy of TWOST from another > source - and it is on the MP3 collections - check out this page for > tracklistings: http://www.image.dk/~biotech4/klf/klfmp3.htm or downloadable from http://klf.juniorboy.com/ -paul "Fingers only, no palms, and NO honking." -- Oswald # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "tim@xdollarx.com" Subject: (klf) KLF wants list data base Date: 28 Oct 1998 16:26:57 -0500 to all collectors of KLF i am currently updating my KLF trading post data bases if you are looking for KLF items (in any format) and have a list of specific wants please e-mail me direct with the subject title *KLF wants list* and list the items you are looking for in the message body it doesn't matter how obscenely rare or not the item(s) you seek are . . . if you list it i'll try to find it : ) for those who have previously sent me wants lists but your details have now changed this is the ideal opportunity to refresh your information i look forward to the future communications of old friends and new in the spirit of mu liberate and communicate tim (truthfully nothing to do with x$x at all really) richards # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: turbo@wr.com.au Subject: (klf) some Jimmy Cauty info Date: 29 Oct 1998 18:14:03 +1100 Hi, I don't often contribute to this list although i've been on it for many years now. Though i thought you might be interested in this small snippet of a web-page to do with Jimmy Cauty. To be found at: http://www.feedback.com/cauty.htm Also Jimmy as a remix on the upcoming single release by the artists heavily associated with the Feedback site. Sorry for being cryptic but it ain;t tooo hard to work out. :) Cheers, John # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ulrik Brandt Hansen Subject: (klf) K2 plant's in Stadium House Video Date: 29 Oct 1998 09:03:10 +0100 If you look in the Intro (the ufo-mix) to the Stadium House Triology video you'll see a couple og big yellow plant's with the KLF logo on repairing the streets of Sample City. by the way: What is CBS, it's written on a poster on one af the buildings (like 1987 and KLF) Ulrik Peace in Kosovo Truce in Israel Also some agreement in Spain (some weird terror-group) China and Taiwan is starting to speak again There's just been something about the FalklandsIslands=20 WORLD PEACE WILL BE RESTORED Jeg Skal Ha' Mer' Str=F8m!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: anders@algonet.se (Anders Hultman) Subject: Re: (klf) K2 plant's in Stadium House Video Date: 29 Oct 1998 09:16:32 +0100 >by the way: What is CBS, it's written on a poster on one af the buildings >(like 1987 and KLF) CBS is a very big American record company that was bought by Sony in the late 80:s or early 90:s. But I doubt that it is *that* CBS that KLF refers to. Probably means something else. anders http://www.algonet.se/~anders/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kyle M Thompson Subject: (klf) yes/no vote. guardian Date: 29 Oct 1998 12:44:51 +0000 (GMT) just thinking back.... oo a whole year and 3 days. what form did the announcement of the results of the guardian's ad asking for votes as to fuck the millenium or not take? i can't remember. . \ ` ' / . | I'll get you any deal that you like | ._` __^__ '_. | ten sweets for a mountain bike you like | [()=()] | *****http://thin-n-crispy.base.org***** | /_____\ | Kyle Thompson | justified | kylet@bigfoot.com | # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: litjen@easynet.co.uk (Graham Scales) Subject: Re: (klf) yes/no vote. guardian Date: 29 Oct 1998 05:50:18 -0700 At 12:44 29/10/98 +0000, Kyle M Thompson wrote: > >just thinking back.... oo a whole year and 3 days. > >what form did the announcement of the results of the guardian's ad asking >for votes as to fuck the millenium or not take? > >i can't remember. > I also can't remember the exact figures but the majority was in favour of Fucking the Millenium!!! 'laters Graham # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ulrik Brandt Hansen Subject: Re: (klf) yes/no vote. guardian Date: 29 Oct 1998 14:43:25 +0100 On Thu, 29 Oct 1998, Kyle M Thompson wrote: > just thinking back.... oo a whole year and 3 days. > > what form did the announcement of the results of the guardian's ad asking > for votes as to fuck the millenium or not take? > > i can't remember. 2227 voted no (bastards) 18436 voted yes according to the 2K site at mute # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andy R." Subject: Re: (klf) yes/no vote. guardian Date: 29 Oct 1998 16:17:55 +0000 Ulrik Brandt Hansen wrote: > 2227 voted no (bastards) > 18436 voted yes Well, I was one of the 'bastards', but only to see if the reply e-mail from m/a/d was any different... I voted 'yes' twice to make up for it though :-) - Andy R. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bryson Mills" Subject: Re: (klf) K-F referenced in Bad Art article Date: 28 Oct 1998 12:27:16 PST I have to sound my agreement. Brian Sewell is a far more deserving target than Rachel Whiteread or any other artists for that matter. He's the living embodiment of all that's ever been wrong with England, as trumped up class-privilege tosser who reckons that only art that would be seen in a BBC period-drama is worthy of the name. Brys ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bryson Mills" Subject: Re: (klf) K2 plant's in Stadium House Video Date: 29 Oct 1998 11:02:17 PST CBS----doesnt that stand for Chris (Evan's) Breakfast Show? :) Brys PS- Looking at tiny details in ancient videos of defunct pop-groups can make you go blind. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bryson Mills" Subject: Re: (klf) yes/no vote. guardian Date: 29 Oct 1998 11:13:41 PST Fuck the millenium.... Wasnt that when everybody connected to the ex-KLF seriously lost the chord? I was in America at the time of FTM but if I'd voted I would have voted "ARSE!". The single was crap and the idea was embarassingly crap. Worse, it seems that some "loyal" KLF-ists actually believe that it's possible, never mind desirable, to "fuck" the millenium. I'm being offensive, I'm sure, to some but, really, I think that with FTM, B&J scraped the crust offa the bottom of the barrel of Robert Anton Wilson's "Illuminatus" concepts circa "immanentize the eschaton". Perhaps they really believed that they were The (real, fictional) Jams rather than two old geezers who had an expensive day out on Jura and weeent on to embarrass themselves in front of a not-so-mass audience. Tear-jerkingly sad. I bet Jimmy cries himself into the millenium rather than fucking it. Brys ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Thorne, Chris" Subject: (klf) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 15:41:39 -0500 Date: 29 Oct 1998 13:45:04 -0700 >>The single was crap and the idea was embarassingly crap. >>Worse, it seems that some "loyal" KLF-ists actually believe that it's >>possible, never mind desirable, to "fuck" the millenium. I agree, a DJ here in Toronto Ontario put it the best by saying, "I guess they were running low on cash and threw together this single." Why can't they sit down and really try to put something out. Their older stuff still blows away alot of the new crap coming out now. Is there any hope or future left? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mattias Frid Subject: Re: (klf) yes/no vote. guardian Date: 29 Oct 1998 22:18:57 +0100 At 11:13 1998-10-29 -0800, you wrote: >The single was crap and the idea was embarassingly crap. Aw, come on... It's all good ole healthy fun! Nothing more, nothing less. At least that's my opinion... Cheers, //FRiD Mattias Frid "People say: 'Just read the Framtidsv. 4:313 facts!' Well, I've read them, S-35252 Vaxjo and you can have them back!" SWEDEN - Bill Drummond, The Man - mfrsv95@student.hv.se http://www.frid.home.ml.org # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jarrod5083@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) K2 plant's in Stadium House Video Date: 29 Oct 1998 16:57:28 EST CBS is also a large American television station, with programming devoted mostly to a middle aged audience, so who knows..... Jarrod "I'm X$X, no really, i'm serious" Acquistapace # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephane MONTHIEU" Subject: Re: (klf) K2 plant's in Stadium House Video Date: 29 Oct 1998 23:46:15 PST CBS was also the record company of The KLF in France before "Dance Pool"-Sony Music... Stephane "Steve M.D." MONTHIEU "Ladies and gentlemen, The KLF has now left the building..." ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: anders@algonet.se (Anders Hultman) Subject: Re: (klf) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 15:41:39 -0500 Date: 30 Oct 1998 10:10:38 +0100 >>>The single was crap and the idea was embarassingly crap. > >>>Worse, it seems that some "loyal" KLF-ists actually believe that it's >>>possible, never mind desirable, to "fuck" the millenium. > >I agree, a DJ here in Toronto Ontario put it the best by saying, "I guess >they were running low on cash and threw together this single." It may well be so, but if that was the reason, why did they stage this concert at The Barbican? With tickets at UKP 10, expenses couldn't possibly be covered, especially not with the FTM kit everyone got on the way out. >Why can't they sit down and really try to put something out. Their older >stuff still blows away alot of the new crap coming out now. Is there any >hope or future left? anders http://www.algonet.se/~anders/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alex Janzer Subject: (klf) James Cauty Date: 30 Oct 1998 16:18:14 +0100 On the feedback website it says that Jimmy was involved in "Graybeard" and "The Scourge Of The Earth". Are there any cd's available? Does anyone know? Regards, Alex # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Blake" Subject: (klf) Re: (orb) KLF stuff.... Date: 30 Oct 1998 08:37:13 -0000 -----Original Message----- >Yeah, I apologize for posting this to the Orb list (I didn't >feel like resubscribing to the KLF list just for this), but >is anyone out there willing make the following trade? >I have a copy of The White Room, which I NEVER listen >to. I do, however, like The History of the JAMMS. If you dont get any joy with a trade, last time I visited Fopp in Aberdee= n they had it for about =A312, they will post stuff to you for a small char= ge. Tel 01224-625052. They've also got U.F. Orb double vinyl sealed for =A319= .99. Phil. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jose f pabon coe stnt Subject: Re: (klf) K2 plant's in Stadium House Video Date: 29 Oct 1998 22:09:03 -0500 (EST) I havent seen Stadium House in quite some time, but i think it said GBS not CBS. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andy R." Subject: Re: (klf) yes/no vote. guardian Date: 30 Oct 1998 21:07:14 +0000 Bryson Mills wrote: > The single was crap and the idea was embarassingly crap. > > Worse, it seems that some "loyal" KLF-ists actually believe that > it's possible, never mind desirable, to "fuck" the millenium. B&J will make their point, and move on. Just like the K Foundation award didn't fuck the Turner prize, the Pyramid won't fuck the Dome, but the spirit of B&J's actions seems to be "something ought to be done, so we'll do it." As usual, the concept is more important than the music. - Andy R. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andy R." Subject: Re: (klf) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 15:41:39 -0500 Date: 30 Oct 1998 21:06:55 +0000 Anders Hultman wrote: > why did they stage this concert at The Barbican? With tickets at UKP > 10, expenses couldn't possibly be covered, especially not with the > FTM kit everyone got on the way out. The gig generated a phenomenal ammount of publicity, in terms of collumn inches in the press (which is what a single that contains "fuck" so many times and therefore will be banned by radio/tv needs if people are to buy it) it would have made sense even if tickets were free. More inexplicable is the advert that launched k2planthire.co.uk T I guess that would have cost about the same as the gig... FTM was in Bill's words, a starter's whistle for annoyance about the millenium. I guess quite a few clubs will be spinning FTM as the first record played on the night 2000 starts. I'm looking out for a reworking of FTM around xmas next year when we are all really fed up with the millennium hype, and a tie-in with the pyramid/brick collecting, because the pyramid is in limbo, and FTM will only make sense in late 1999, not 1997. I think B&J are laying groundwork, here, just like the pure trance series... all their big hits as the KLF were developments from earlier, less successful records, I think we have only had the first FTM and hints of the pyramid so far... not the successful versions. - Andy R. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andy R." Subject: Re: (klf) K2 plant's in Stadium House Video Date: 30 Oct 1998 21:06:45 +0000 Jarrod5083@aol.com wrote: > Jarrod "I'm X$X, no really, i'm serious" Acquistapace Which reminds me, did anyone go along to a 'rural destination' with Mark Thomas on thursday? Did MT perhaps comment on recent speculation hereabouts that he is X$X? - Andy R. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Norbert Colon" Subject: RE:(klf) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 15:41:39 -0500 Date: 30 Oct 1998 17:11:37 -0000 ----Original Message----- >>Why can't they sit down and really try to put something out I would assume its because they don't want to! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bryson Mills" Subject: Re: (klf) yes/no vote. guardian Date: 30 Oct 1998 16:19:19 PST OK...OK I'm just trying to break the tedium of "Did anybody spot the K-shaped speck of dust on the dashboard of the jamsmobile in the 15th remix video (available only on 8-track cartridge) of Last Train To Nostalgia" type discussion. (no offence intended) Although I must say that FTM is one single I doubt I will ever play again after about 3 listens. It's BOGUS. It ruins the whole KLF trip for me somehow. Brys ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bryson Mills" Subject: Re: (klf) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 15:41:39 -0500 Date: 30 Oct 1998 16:11:11 PST I hope your prediction of a Return to the Valley of Fuck The Millenium turns out to be groundless. As I've said already, I really feel that FTM was the KLF's nadir both in the retreading of a well-worn tyre (WTIL) and in the fact that despite all the gloss of the FTM campaign it amounted to a "reformation" in the tradition of everybody from the Monkees to The Beatles to Culture Club/ABC/Human League et al. It's sad and it's so bloody NORMAL and they should get as far away from their past now as possible as indeed seems to be the case with Bill D as Author and Jimmy as remixer. The desire of some list ,members to see the "glory days" revived strikes me as being as horrendous as those teddy boys who are still living the fifties in their fifties. 1997 was about that desperate temptation to try to get back to 1987 and I dont think we need it again. The future of the KLF is in the inspiration they gave. That's why I'm on the list, I guess. I'm into things that come about as a result of the KLF spark. There's some of that about on the list , or rather around the list, and I've no objections on the kind of detail we share about the old releases but waiting for more KLF rehash? Count me out. Christ...let's move on. Brys ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Geoff Stanbury Subject: (klf) Attn: Whoever was gonna sell me WKTJ Date: 30 Oct 1998 20:37:58 -0500 Sorry, almost all of you should ignore this. I just reformatted my hard drive, and forgot to back up my mail files first, and I forgot the name of whoever was gonna sell me the Who Killed the JAMs LP. Please get in touch with me. Again, sorry everyone. --Geo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jarrod5083@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 15:41:39 -0500 Date: 31 Oct 1998 01:23:28 EST I think you definitely make a good point, but the simple fact is, these artists are still producing product, they haven't stopped their efforts by any measure; and perhaps the KLF is something of a side-project at this point. The first generation of KLF has concluded; now there is more to look forward to. Let us not forget the first versions of 3 AM Eternal; though they were of high quality, they didn't have the grasp of anti-pop that the later mixes had. Maybe this early version of FTM is indeed merely the start, and 2K might actually become a fully operational band. Simply because the pyramid and the concerts are outlandish, doesn't by any stretch mean that they aren't genuine possibilities of what is to come, or what may already be here. And certainly the influences of the KLF are truly starting to shine, in the Manual's use, and in KLF's anti-pop sentiment being turned towards pop, which in effect completes the circle. In short, I'm not worried about the future of KLF/2K, I'm simply waiting for the next installment. Jarrod "Z%Z" Acquistapace # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: M/A/D Subject: Re: (klf) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 15:41:39 -0500 Date: 31 Oct 1998 15:53:35 +0000 >> why did they stage this concert at The Barbican? With tickets at UKP=20 >> 10, expenses couldn't possibly be covered, especially not with the=20 >> FTM kit everyone got on the way out. =20 Watch 2K burn =A380,000 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John.C.S.Quel" Subject: Re: (klf) K2 plant's in Stadium House Video Date: 30 Oct 1998 21:12:58 +0000 "Andy R." writes >Which reminds me, did anyone go along to a 'rural destination' with Mark >Thomas on thursday? No one did as it was abruptly cancelled due to (ah! now *that* would be telling!) but so far it is now all set to go ahead next Thursday the 5th of November. >Did MT perhaps comment on recent speculation hereabouts that he is X$X? He probably doesn`t even know who or what X$X is, but if I manage to make it there I`ll most certainly ask and try to remember (remember the 5th of November) to find out from him what`s the latest with that pilot show where he interviewed Bill Drummond back in March last year and if he can get a copy of the show or give further details as to the actual production team involved in this potential series or whatever... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Torsten Pattberg" Subject: (klf) Jimmy.wav Date: 31 Oct 1998 23:26:29 +0100 Does this mean we have to excpect some new songs from Jimmy? http://www.feedback.com/f_jimmy.wav This one sound very nice, does anybody know if it available anywhere? Torsten Pattberg # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf