From: owner-klf-digest@lists.xmission.com (klf-digest) To: klf-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klf-digest V2 #91 Reply-To: klf-digest Sender: owner-klf-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klf-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes klf-digest Tuesday, April 28 1998 Volume 02 : Number 091 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 11:48:35 +0100 From: Chris Peel 105/69 Subject: (klf) ETERNITY23 Could I start a philsophical debate the DOESN'T have anything to do with the KLF burning money? It's regarding ETERNITY23 - The "Madugarda Eterna (Club Mix)" - I've got the white-label and this is the same as the track that appears on the Odd (Lost) sounds of Mu compilations. After reading the FAQ/Discography a comment was made that this might >not< be a bootleg as such, rather a remix of the track by Italian DJs. There then followed a discussion on how KLF-esque the track was. My point is, if the track was done by Italian DJs, how can it be compared with a KLF release? I feel that it is a bootleg copy of the original (how they got hold of it is anyone's guess, although the mix engineers seem quite liberal when it comes to distributing DAT masters). It's got the KLF's "bass" on it and I'm sure the drum machine is an 808 (which is what they seem to use most of the time). Anyone got any views on it, or should we carry on discussing bricks and money? Chris _________________________________________________________________________ kfi systems - your [problem] our [solution] Registered in the UK ref 3534494 For further information please e-mail, enclosing return POSTAL address, to C.Peel@walcat.ac.uk Any views expressed in this e-mail are the author's own, but saying that, we'd probably agree with them too. All reverses righted. A KFI COMMUNICATION. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 12:41:43 +0100 From: Chris Peel 105/69 Subject: (klf) Last Train To Trancentral RE: LAST TRAIN TO TRANCENTRAL (LP MIX or 1991 Remix) Does anyone know where the strings bit comes from? Is it sampled, or - god forbid - did they do it themselves? Any info would be appreciated. Thanks Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 07:58:05 EDT From: The Mgnt Subject: Re: (klf) Last Train To Trancentral > RE: LAST TRAIN TO TRANCENTRAL (LP MIX or 1991 Remix) > > Does anyone know where the strings bit comes from? > > Is it sampled, or - god forbid - did they do it themselves? That's a KLF original. At least I'm reasonably sure it is. The liner notes for White Room they list _Rolling Stock_ as being sampled from Chill Out. I pretty much take this to mean the strings bit. If it was a third party sample they would list it as such. - -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 12:52:42 +0100 From: Chris Peel 105/69 Subject: (klf) It's everywhere... I appreciate the human brain can be conditioned to "spot" relevances where there aren't any but here goes... I'm refering to the number 23 of course, please note that these are all conincidences - they weren't engineered in any way. My company was incorporated on 23rd March My company accounts were opened on 23rd April I was 23 when my company was incorporated Is this sad or what? Chris _________________________________________________________________________ kfi systems - your [problem] our [solution] Registered in the UK ref 3534494 For further information please e-mail, enclosing return POSTAL address, to C.Peel@walcat.ac.uk Any views expressed in this e-mail are the author's own, but saying that, we'd probably agree with them too. All reverses righted. A KFI COMMUNICATION. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 13:29:21 +0100 (BST) From: Culf Subject: Re: (klf) Last Train To Trancentral > That's a KLF original. At least I'm reasonably sure it is. The liner notes > for White Room they list _Rolling Stock_ as being sampled from Chill Out. I > pretty much take this to mean the strings bit. If it was a third party sample > they would list it as such. Nah. Rolling stock is the train-going-over-the-crossing-type samples. Culf. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 14:17:09 GMT+0 From: RUN DMC Subject: Re: (klf) It's everywhere... > My company was incorporated on 23rd March > My company accounts were opened on 23rd April > I was 23 when my company was incorporated Your company doesn't happen to run the last train to trancentral does it?!!!!!?!!! I've got a sand-storm blowing in my head seeing many colors but the only one I'm coming to is RED Cast - Sandstorm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 06:48:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Christopher Robin Zimmerman Subject: (klf) Waiting for the Rights of Mu CD for trade Looking for Kylie CD single (dreaming I know) or URT. Will consider other offers for KLF/Orb I don't have (won't hurt to ask me!). If I can't do a trade, then first "reasonable" cash offer will get it. Thanks, CRZ (use Reply-To: address, please!) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 12:07:28 -0500 From: Don Gagen Subject: RE: (klf) ETERNITY23 It's regarding ETERNITY23 - The "Madugarda Eterna (Club Mix)" - After reading the FAQ/Discography a comment was made that this might >not< be a bootleg as such, rather a remix of the track by Italian DJs. I have talked to 3 people (all on this list) who have seen and played an original 2 sided version of ETERNA 1 and compared it with the version on the bootleg ETERNITY 23. One of the individuals is quite reliable and I trust him completely. I don't know the other 2 as well, but with their information they have only reinforced the fact that the mix is the same. However, ETERNA 1 does have edit version as well. The discography says that the original has the ambient mix also, but I never bothered to ask, so I can't confirm anything about that. Anyone got any views on it, or should we carry on discussing bricks and money? ...my take on the money thing. I believe it was some sort of Masonic ritual. After they were done they had the ashes which were made into a brick symbolizing their rite of passage to a higher level within their order. That's my opinion in a nutshell. Don Don "Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry." D. Banner DONALD D GAGEN DGAGEN@ENSEMBLE-STUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Peel 105/69 [SMTP:c.peel@walcat.ac.uk] > Sent: Monday, April 27, 1998 5:49 AM > To: klf@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (klf) ETERNITY23 > > > > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 10:20:11 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jeremiah \"Spassvogel\" Rickert" Subject: (klf) non-klf CD-r question I am considering purchasing a CD-R for my computer. I saw one for under $300. What I am wondering is whether one can easily record off of LP through a CD burner that's part of a computer. Do most CD-R's have, for example, RCA's in the back, or would I have to micky mouse somthing...plug an earphone-to-RCA adaptor into my soundcard and then hook that to my record player? Making CDs from vinyl is going to be the main thing I do with the CD-R. Should I just wait and by one that's designed to be part of a stereo system? jr - ----------------------------------------- Jeremiah "Spassvogel" Rickert 6'7" 320 lbs of Dr. Pepper and Pez Candy. - ----------------------------------------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 13:59:52 -0400 From: "Daniel Albert" Subject: (klf) scanned covers Can anybody scan me the covers of the KLF-albums so that I can print them out again in good quality (300-600dpi)? dan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 19:44:14 +0000 From: "rhidian" <9543349@EIGG.SMS.ED.AC.UK> Subject: Re: (klf) More Money... some people wrote: >>There is still gold to the value of the 1,000,000 in the reserves. >>The gold hasn't been taken from the economy, in theory. >Lucky you! At least you guys have gold to back up you money. ALl we >have is more paper. America, home of the paper standard! ummm from what I remember from economics classes years ago, only one third or so of the money deposits in banks up to be backed up by gold. Or maybe I'm wrong. Anyway the amount is tiny compared to the total value of sterling in circulation. Sorry for being off-topic and boring.. Rhidian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 19:09:22 +0100 From: David Walker Subject: Re: (klf) Waiting for the Rights of Mu CD for trade Hello, I also have the above item if anyone wants to buy it. Personally I don`t like it. Sounds like a poor man`s "Chill Out" (but that is a personal opinion of course). Cheers, David. - -- David Walker Paul Weller Links And Information: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/6411/links.html Paul Weller Trading Post: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/6411/trade.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 23:11:02 +0300 From: "Panayiotis A. Liapis" Subject: (klf) The meaning o burning the money Hey mates, well, here a different approach to the whole thing. There are two cases: Either the K Foundation burnt real money, or not. If yes, we all have to bow in RESPECT and be proud we're in love with this= group, and not some other group that can only offer good quality music. Case 2: The K F burnt false money. And i say: So what???? Who cares? It influenced me a lot, it changed my life even though i'll= never be sure if it's real money or not. I don't care! it's the act that= matters, the idea, the art of it, the idealism, not the actuall loss of= money. It's the sacrifice, and the concept. So i say, stop talking about= whether the money is real or not, because it doesn't care. I am willing to do a great sacrifice at some point in my life. As great as= even BURNING my KLF collection, which has some prety good items inside:) Any comments? Aiight Chill, Bizzzare Love is, a soul in 2 bodies.. - -------------------------------------- Bizzzare, in his awesome obsessive quest towards 'The Lost Continent'.= There, he finds his 'White Room', tranquillity, and his 'Fleria'. He has= won... Obsessions : The KLF, 'Fleria', Video Games, Hip-hop, Cinema, CM2 Web-page : http://users.otenet.gr/~bizzzare Age:17 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 23:11:53 +0300 From: "Panayiotis A. Liapis" Subject: (klf) PT 1 Hey guyz and girls, one lil question. I just got Pure Trance 1 yesterday, on vinyl. Not willing= to sell it of course, just wondering if it's rare. Thanx Aiight Chill, Bizzzare Love is, a soul in 2 bodies.. - -------------------------------------- Bizzzare, in his awesome obsessive quest towards 'The Lost Continent'.= There, he finds his 'White Room', tranquillity, and his 'Fleria'. He has= won... Obsessions : The KLF, 'Fleria', Video Games, Hip-hop, Cinema, CM2 Web-page : http://users.otenet.gr/~bizzzare Age:17 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 15:16:50 -0600 From: litjen@easynet.co.uk (Graham Scales) Subject: Re: (klf) ETERNITY23 At 11:48 27/04/98 +0100, Chris Peel 105/69 wrote: >Could I start a philsophical debate the DOESN'T have anything to do with >the KLF burning money? > That's a good idea, that subject keeps coming up and then gets rather boring!! ;-) >It's regarding ETERNITY23 - The "Madugarda Eterna (Club Mix)" - I've got >the white-label and this is the same as the track that appears on the Odd >(Lost) sounds of Mu compilations. >My point is, if the track was done by Italian DJs, how can it be compared >with a KLF release? I feel that it is a bootleg copy of the original (how >they got hold of it is anyone's guess, although the mix engineers seem >quite liberal when it comes to distributing DAT masters). It's got the >KLF's "bass" on it and I'm sure the drum machine is an 808 (which is what >they seem to use most of the time). > Well maybe the "bootlegger" or maybe "remixer" should come forward and tell us! We both know who it is I'm talking about don't we mate!! ;-) (Around the corner!!!!!) Just joking, I won't say if you won't or don't!!!!!! 'Nuff of the cryptic KLF stylee messages! >Anyone got any views on it, or should we carry on discussing bricks and money? No, I've already said "Enough"!!!! 'laters A Cryptic and bored of money burning Graham # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 19:05:54 EDT From: The Mgnt Subject: Re: (klf) non-klf CD-r question > I am considering purchasing a CD-R for my computer. I saw one for under > $300. What I am wondering is whether one can easily record off of LP > through a CD burner that's part of a computer. I don't have a CD-R myself, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't work like a tape deck. You'll need to record the files to your pc first using something like Cool Edit Pro, then 'record' the files onto CD-R. I think you need about 700MB on your system to pull off even that trick. - -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 18:29:33 -0500 (CDT) From: daniel Subject: Re: (klf) non-klf CD-r question > > I don't have a CD-R myself, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't work like a tape > deck. You'll need to record the files to your pc first using something like > Cool Edit Pro, then 'record' the files onto CD-R. I think you need about > 700MB on your system to pull off even that trick. > You are correct. You have to record into a soundcard and then save onto your hard drive . Warning: soundblaster cards generate alot of noise and generally worsen a recording. Get a turtle beach card. They make a cheap one <80 american dollars> and it is pretty quiet. There is also alot of software out there that can clean up vinyl. I personally remove pops by hand in a wave editor and then process it . There is alot to recording vinyl to a cd. Email me privately and we can discuss. Also, burning software I like: DAO. The space requirement depends on the length. About 70 minutes of data is in the 700 meg range. Have at least a gig free. good luck p.s. the easier way to transfer vinyl to digital is to buy a minidisc recorder. That is pretty much all I use now to record vinyl - -daniel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 18:13:46 -0700 From: Jon Masciana Subject: RE: (klf) ETERNITY23 >I have talked to 3 people (all on this list) who have seen and played an >original 2 sided version of ETERNA 1 and compared it with the version >on the bootleg ETERNITY 23. One of the individuals is quite reliable >and I trust him completely. I don't know the other 2 as well, but with >their information they have only reinforced the fact that the mix is the >same. However, ETERNA 1 does have edit version as well. The I have the Eterna 1 12" and I just got Lost sounds of mu and I can verify that the version on the Italian 12" Eternity23 is exactly the same as the one that is on the original ETERNA1 12"--the edit is basically an edit, and it's about 3:06, also the other version of Eterna on ETERNA1 is the same version that is on the Kylie SAid To Jason album, aka the version on chill out. >discography says that the original has the ambient mix also, but I never >bothered to ask, so I can't confirm anything about that. yeah, that's the one. its the same thing that's on Chill Out, so the only thing that you guys might be searching for is the edit of it and I have it cleaned up on my harddrive. I can put it on a KLF compilation or offer it to Marshall for LSOM 3 or something. Does anyone know who won the Orb auction for Numb? I'm certainly interested in hearing those mixes on cdr--or even tape! Take care, Jon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 21:18:17 +0000 From: "Whiggy" Subject: Re: (klf) non-klf CD-r question > > > I am considering purchasing a CD-R for my computer. I saw one for under > > $300. What I am wondering is whether one can easily record off of LP > > through a CD burner that's part of a computer. > > I don't have a CD-R myself, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't work like > a tape deck. You'll need to record the files to your pc first using > something like Cool Edit Pro, then 'record' the files onto CD-R. I > think you need about 700MB on your system to pull off even that > trick. Unless you record it one track at a time. I have heard of, but never actually seen, software that is specfically designed for LP mastering. it's supposed to let you record to disc from an external source, and even removes hiss and pops. Unfortunately I don't know what it's called. Sorry. Whiggy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 12:34:25 +0800 From: stephen Subject: Re: (klf) non-klf CD-r question Whiggy wrote: > > > > > > I am considering purchasing a CD-R for my computer. I saw one for under > > > $300. What I am wondering is whether one can easily record off of LP > > > through a CD burner that's part of a computer. > > > > I don't have a CD-R myself, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't work like > > a tape deck. You'll need to record the files to your pc first using > > something like Cool Edit Pro, then 'record' the files onto CD-R. I > > think you need about 700MB on your system to pull off even that > > trick. > > Unless you record it one track at a time. I have heard of, but never > actually seen, software that is specfically designed for LP > mastering. it's supposed to let you record to disc from an external > source, and even removes hiss and pops. Unfortunately I don't know > what it's called. Sorry. > take your LP - into a decent soundcard from your turntable (soundblaster64-gold is not decent - but will scrape it) - best look for a GINA if you are serious about this stuff.. use something along the lines of SOUNDFORGE to record (.WAV) the track - allow approx 10MB/minute (16bit-stereo) - next with some plug-ins (typically Noise Reduction and Click Removal etc etc) - get rid of any hum/hiss/click/pop etc etc.... next if you really want you can re-master it using dynamics/eq/compression or whatever.... now, maybe using CD-Architect (another SOUNDFORGE plug-in) - burn your disk... ...... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 09:18:07 +0100 From: James_Malone@csme.canon.co.uk Subject: (klf) URT Alright all, While visiting my mates last night, had a quick look through his CD collection, and was quite amazed to find The Orb's Ultra Rare Trax - very very good. Mr Cauty even gets a mention on the back of the CD. Out of curiosity, what else have the Ultra Rare Trax team put out on CD. I personally have the KLF, and now a copy of the Orb. I've seen the U2 one in the shops - anyone seen any others? Bugsy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 11:57:09 +0200 From: "Lars Nellemann" Subject: Re: (klf) URT > curiosity, what else have the Ultra Rare Trax team put out on CD. I > personally have the KLF, and now a copy of the Orb. I've seen the U2 one in > the shops - anyone seen any others? I have the following Ultra rare trax: Cure Depeche Mode Erasure (3 volumes) Eurythmics KLF Kraftwerk Pet shop Boys (2 volumes) Orb Prince (2 Volumes) and I guess there are more out there, I don't know if it's the same people that did all the URT's but they have pretty much the same lay-out. Lars # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 11:13:10 +0100 (BST) From: Nick Subject: Re: (klf) The meaning o burning the money On Mon, 27 Apr 1998, Panayiotis A. Liapis wrote: > Case 2: The K F burnt false money. And i say: So what???? > Who cares? It influenced me a lot, it changed my life even I believe it was Mr Green's New Agenda who went up to Jura and burned 1 million pounds in Monopoly Money. This was intended as a slant on the K Foundation's actions, but I believe it also has inherent symbolism. The burning of currency from this capitalist board-game must surely represent a revolt against the ideals of capitalism and the idea that ownership is everything. By disposing of the means to buy property (and thus status), it implies a willingness to forego the game. Apply these similarities with modern life and by burning money we can perhaps conclude that the burners wish to opt out of the game. Either the burning of the denoted purchasing power is a sign that says: "I am not playing your game", or by burning Monopoly money, Mr Green was simply trying to ridicule the K Foundation's actions or those of society in general. By opening himself to ridicule, Mr Green hoped (I fink) to question the motives not just of any money-burner, but of socity's attitude towards such people. BTW just out of interst, how much would it cost, in real money, to purchase 1 million pounds worth of Monopoly money? :) NIk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ("KLF archivist-of-information") Nick Gilmour E-Mail: N.W.Gilmour@selc.hull.ac.uk WWW: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dgilmour/nick.htm KLF FAQ: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dgilmour/klf-faq.txt ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 11:16:12 +0100 (BST) From: Nick Subject: (klf) I saw the sign Saw a caption in the Gaurdian yesterday which read: "Time to bring back the jams?" "Yes!", said I, "Yes, yes, and thrice yes!". discuss. NIk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ("KLF archivist-of-information") Nick Gilmour E-Mail: N.W.Gilmour@selc.hull.ac.uk WWW: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dgilmour/nick.htm KLF FAQ: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dgilmour/klf-faq.txt ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 11:35:02 +0100 From: Steve Delap Subject: RE: (klf) non-klf CD-r question Whiggy said:- > Unless you record it one track at a time. I have heard of, but never > actually seen, software that is specfically designed for LP > mastering. it's supposed to let you record to disc from an external > source, and even removes hiss and pops. Unfortunately I don't know > what it's called. Sorry. > There is a peice of s/ware that comes with Adaptec CD Creator Deluxe called Spin Doctor that does exactly that. The processing of removing clicks and scratches does take a loooong time tho, and you need to check the wav's it produces first, before you decide to commit them to CD steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 13:10:07 +0000 From: Moritz R Subject: Re: (klf) The meaning o burning the money Well, the diffence of really burning real money and NOT burning money at all is what the whole performance - and I'm still calling it a performance - is ALL about. If it was obvious that it was NOT real cash that they had burned in the first place, you would never have been impressed by it und it wouldn't have "changed your life". But I'm not interested in discussing this any further either. So why didn't you tell us what has changed in your life since you heard about the money burning. I'm pretty much interested in that! MO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 08:12:29 -0600 (MDT) From: Jonas L. Olsson Subject: Re: (klf) URT I have seen a "New Order - URT" also in a second-hand CD-shop in the states! /Jonas # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 15:14:52 +0100 From: Andy Robinson Subject: Re: (klf) The meaning o burning the money Nick wrote: > I believe it was Mr Green's New Agenda who went up to Jura and > burned 1 million pounds in Monopoly Money. 10 million, actually > The burning of currency from this capitalist board-game must surely > represent a revolt against the ideals of capitalism and the idea > that ownership is everything... > ...we can perhaps conclude that the burners wish to opt out of the > game. hmm, compare & contrast with the real money monopoly set, another Mr Green thing. > BTW just out of interst, how much would it cost, in real money, to > purchase 1 million pounds worth of Monopoly money? Mr Green was asked this at Derby, and he said the 10 million cost 3000 quid - - andy R. currently starring in "Watch me eat 1 pound of chocolate monopoly buildings" - a bitter satire on the number of duplicated presents he got for christmas # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 16:46:20 +0100 From: James_Malone@csme.canon.co.uk Subject: (klf) The Orb v's The KLF Alright, just been having a look around on the net, found a nice bootleg site. Whist having a look in the Orb section noticed this one... Morphology (SB/10) (73min) Track listing: 6:55 Paradise X: 2 Much (start and depart to paradise) 14:00 Keiichi Suzuki: Satellite Serenade (trans-asian express mix) 7:21 Voices of Khwan: Third Whale Trip 4:59 Orb: Reefer Spin in the Galaxy [supernova... remix] 7:11 YMO: Hi-Tech Ambience (ariel implosion mix) 4:02 Mike Oldfield: Sentinel (7" mix) 12:04 YMO: Waterford (a23 diversion mix) 4:05 The Orb: Blue Room (radio edit) 8:34 Haruomi Hosono: Laughter Meditation (the reality of impossible orbjects) 6:01 6:01 ["Orb vs KLF"] <<<< ---------------------------------- - ------- Anyone got it? I'm interested if you have........sounds great.. Web address for the bootleg site.....http://bootlegs.simplenet.com/bootlist/bootlist.htm cheers... Bugsy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 12:06:17 -0600 From: "Holly M. Laux" Subject: (klf) the new aganda ok, call me ignorant, but what exactly is the New Agenda? Is it a Gimpo/ MAD thing? later, kris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 19:37:21 +0100 From: Christian Fieres Subject: (klf) URTs I have a Frankie Goes To Hollywood URT here, for which I've paid DEM 120 some time ago. Weeks later I had the pleasure to see approx. 100 pieces of them at a record fair for DEM 15. Bad luck. :( And of course there's the yellow KLF URT, which I like a lot... - -- +------------------------------------------------+----------- Ciao | Vogelwaidstrasse 2 D-63477 Maintal | snail Chris | fon +49-6181-431481 +49-177-4070047 fax 431483 | comm | c4s@gmx.de 2:244/6254.7@fidonet | email | n/a @ the moment | W3 +--------+------------------------------------------------+----------- + EOT. + mailsrv@darklight.lahn.de, subj GET HELP | freeware +--------+------------------------------------------------------------ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 18:32:53 +0100 From: Phil Blake Subject: Re: (klf) I saw the sign On Date: Tuesday, April 28, 1998 11:39 AM Nik Wrote: >Saw a caption in the Gaurdian yesterday which read: > >"Time to bring back the jams?" > >"Yes!", said I, "Yes, yes, and thrice yes!". > >discuss. > >NIk What was the Font Nik? A full page add? Phil. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 22:55:06 +0300 From: "Panayiotis A. Liapis" Subject: Re: (klf) The meaning o burning the money >I am willing to do a great sacrifice at some point in my life. As great as >even BURNING my KLF collection, which has some prety good items inside:) >Any comments? > >This, however would be somewhat stupid! :) Hi, what's up? It may sound stupid, but believe me, it would be more painful than stupid.= it is the ultimate sacifice, imho a larger sacrifice than K's. It would be= something i could be proud about, something that cost me a lot, butit= would make me stronger. It would not be a meaning to the whole world. It= would be a meaning to the list, a meaning that few would undestand, a= bizzzare meaning that i'm still trying to discover, but have faith in. Sorry if it doesn't make sense, it's deep and if you think of it you'll= know... Aiight Chill, Bizzzare Love is, a soul in 2 bodies.. - -------------------------------------- Bizzzare, in his awesome obsessive quest towards 'The Lost Continent'.= There, he finds his 'White Room', tranquillity, and his 'Fleria'. He has= won... Obsessions : The KLF, 'Fleria', Video Games, Hip-hop, Cinema, CM2 Web-page : http://users.otenet.gr/~bizzzare Age:17 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 23:01:40 +0300 From: "Panayiotis A. Liapis" Subject: Re: (klf) The meaning o burning the money On 28/4/1998, at 1:10 =EC=EC, Moritz R wrote: >Well, the diffence of really burning real money and NOT burning money at >all is what the whole performance - and I'm still calling it a >performance - is ALL about. A performance? No my friend, this was not a performance, it was something much more= spiritual and symbolic than a performance. It was art, poetry, romance,= love. Call me crazy, but that's what I see when i think of it. >If it was obvious that it was NOT real cash >that they had burned in the first place, you would never have been >impressed by it und it wouldn't have "changed your life". If it were obvious, it would be different. But now, that it isn't it's= equally important to me. The message has been received.... >But I'm not interested in discussing this any further either. So why >didn't you tell us what has changed in your life since you heard about >the money burning. I'm pretty much interested in that! Wel well, this is the least or maybe the most if you look at it from= another spectrum, part of the story. It changed a kid 11 yrs old, it= changed its views on life. I saw the importance of art, the brilliance= ofhow useless money is. In the beginning i thought that they could have= just burnt it. But then i thought that that's the point. The meaning is= there, ready for reveryone to interpret in his own way. I don't know if i= would ever become a materialist ******ucka, but i sure as hell will never= be a slave of money or things ever. EVER. and this is very important for= me, trust me. >MO > > Aiight Chill, Bizzzare Love is, a soul in 2 bodies.. - -------------------------------------- Bizzzare, in his awesome obsessive quest towards 'The Lost Continent'.= There, he finds his 'White Room', tranquillity, and his 'Fleria'. He has= won... Obsessions : The KLF, 'Fleria', Video Games, Hip-hop, Cinema, CM2 Web-page : http://users.otenet.gr/~bizzzare Age:17 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ End of klf-digest V2 #91 ************************