From: owner-klf-digest@lists.xmission.com (klf-digest) To: klf-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klf-digest V2 #113 Reply-To: klf-digest Sender: owner-klf-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klf-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes klf-digest Thursday, July 2 1998 Volume 02 : Number 113 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 15:55:08 +0100 From: Andy Robinson Subject: Re: (klf) Viva Viagra by the JAMS erik wrote: > Title: The JAMS in: Viva Viagra! note it claims only that the JAMS are 'in' viva viagra (which judging from the nicely copyright free samples from 1987, they clearly are), not that the whole thing is by the JAMS. > I'm convinced that Bill and Jimmy did not put it on the web. But I > could imagine they made the song. Not very likely though. from what I can gather from the horrible audio quality, there is nothing technically in the track that couldn't easily be done with a PC soundcard and a few bits of shareware. there is nothing in it but hacked samples... this and the terrible lack of timing & tunefullness leads me to conclude this is a rather bad hoax - its simply far too amateur for the KLF. - - andy R. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:56:50 -0000 From: "Reed, Mark" Subject: (klf) Mike Dutton and Warren Ellis The latest issue of Warren Ellis' excellent 'Transmetropolitan' comic has the K2 Plant Hire site as it's recommended site of the month. A bit late, as it's shut down, but it's the thought that counts. Does anyone have Mike Dutton's address, as it seems the people still waiting for stuff have been abandoned by him, and the time is right for a stern letter asking him to get his finger out. Mark This message is confidential and for use by the addressee only. If the message is received by anyone other than the addressee, please return the message to the sender by replying to it and then delete the message from your computer. 'Internet communications are not secure. The Royal Bank does not accept responsibility for changes made to this message after it was sent.' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 03:17:51 PDT From: "m u t e" Subject: (klf) New Idler (#23!) The latest issue of The Idler is out, presumably since a few weeks ago, as I picked up a copy here in Australia on Saturday. Bill is absent from the Bad Advice page due to "the usual unforeseen circumstances", but Zodiac is very much on show in the Seaside Supplement's fashion shoot. See! a glimpse of the cross tattoo mentioned in Bad Wisdom... View! him leering drunkenly down a woman's blouse... Gasp! as he clutches his lunchbox and eyeballs the camera... Mute kid mute enterprises: presenting the MuteRadio website any minute now ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 13:59:45 +0100 (BST) From: Neil Sampson Subject: (klf) looking for Henrik... Hi there, Sorry to interrupt the flow on the list, but can Henrik from Sweden drop me an email with his address, since I've managed to loose both the last message and the bit of paper I wrote his address on !!! Anyways, looking forward to getting back on the list soon-ish. l8rs neil (neil.sampson@gecm.com) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 15:09:00 +0200 (MET DST) From: Nicola Battista Subject: (klf) The Viagra Conspiracy (?) listened to that track. Apart from the usual "justified" samples (something like a KLF singature, I'd say... but this doesnt prove anything) I noticed that most of the music samples are from that classic 60's tune "Tequila". Recently it was covered by some UK act which I can't remember now. bye, Nicola (Dj Batman) Battista # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 14:44:33 +0200 (MET DST) From: Nicola Battista Subject: (klf) Scooter Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 12:47:14 +0200 (MET DST) From: erik Subject: Re: (klf) Scooter >Obviously Scooter is imitating the KLF by putting modern music together >from several old songs mixing them with their own talent to something new. yep, and the resemblance between that scottish music on "I'm Raving" and some KLF stuff has already been discussed in here a while ago... I've also notice that in that song he recycles some of the lyrics from a track by someone else... that one was called "Ravin' I'm ravin'". >They are just not even remotely as brilliant as the KLF... hehe. "It's nice to be important, but it's most important to be nice". bye, Nicola (Dj Batman) Battista # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:25:29 PDT From: "David Lindgren" Subject: (klf) "new" timelordsingle Hello everybody, I`m back to (hopefully) clear out a couple of things for myself, then I`m `off` again, anyway... I`m a bit interested in the "new" Timelordssingle ( new? oh yes...), is anyone intyerested in trading it for a copy of KLF vs ENT 3 a.m. ? Or perhaps " The Comeback ? " could be interesting? let me know - david ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:31:36 PDT From: "David Lindgren" Subject: (klf) 7" KLF vs ENT for sale Hello everybody, If anyone´s interested in the earlier mentioned record, let me know, as I can get a couple of them from a swedish shop, NOTE that its not a secondhand shop, the records are in perfect condition, I bought my second copy of the record last week. Including p+p the price will probably be around 8-12 UKP, depending on how many wants it. - david ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:47:43 PDT From: "David Lindgren" Subject: (klf) I saw this guy.... Hello everybody, Recently I went to swedens greatest rockfestival ( Hultsfredsfestivalen, www.rockparty.se), FUCKING VERVE CANCELLED!! Anyway the first 3 days I kept on seeing this guy, dressed with black pants UK police hat and a black raincoat with the three familiar letters KLF on the back - a nice experience really, but as I was very drunk the first 2 times I saw him I didn´t talk to him. One of my very few personal golden `rules` are: never talk to ANYBODY you don`t know, except DJs of course, about THE KLF when I`m drunk. As I feel strongly for KLF I always keep trying to convice the person about KLF beeing the best band, then if the person disagre I often start an un-necesary fight. So I decided not to talk to him. One of the days I wore my KLFtshirt ( black with big KLF on front and a white `why sheep` logo on the back. The guy saw me with it but he didn`t react, just looked A LOT at me ( reminds me of my own reaction...). ANyone who knows who this guy was?? A nice thing was that I was offered 500 SEK ( ab. 45 UKP) for it, I`ll never sell it, oh well, not in near future anyway. - david ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:53:12 PDT From: "David Lindgren" Subject: (klf) Bad wisdom ? Hello everybody, I`ve got `Bad wisdom` and I`m about to start reading it, but as I`ve read alot about it beeing kinda `hard` to read, I`d like to get someone who`we read it ( and understood it) to `help me to get in the right direction`. AS I´ve understood this far is that they`ve written one story each and then put them together in one book, sound confusing to me, that why I`M VERY ANXIUOS TO GET RESPONCE ON THIS MAIL. - david ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 13:01:47 -0500 (CDT) From: daniel Subject: Re: (klf) Bad wisdom ? I didn't find bad wisdom hard to read. Just realize who is saying what when and you will be fine. Remember Bill Drummond is discussing reality and Zodiac is discussing an alternate reality. If I remember correctly, Bill Drummind writes in the past tense and zodiac writes in the present tense. - -daniel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 16:32:23 EDT From: Subject: Re: (klf) Mike Dutton and Warren Ellis > Does anyone have Mike Dutton's address, as it seems the people still > waiting for stuff have been abandoned by him, and the time is right for > a stern letter asking him to get his finger out. Mike Dutton 36 Jervis Road Bishop's Stortford Herts CM23 3TT Tel 01279 505443 ...and a swift kick in the pants from me! - -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:15:40 -0600 (MDT) From: Ben Parker Subject: (klf) gone for a time... Hi all, I've been off the list for about a 1/2 a year (mailbox was too full). My question is: Has anything of major impact happend with/by the KLF in the past 6 months? I'd appreciate any updates I can get. Thanks, Ben. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 10:53:49 +0100 (BST) From: Nick Subject: Re: (klf) "new" timelordsingle On Tue, 30 Jun 1998, David Lindgren wrote: > I`m a bit interested in the "new" Timelordssingle ( new? oh yes...), is > anyone intyerested in trading it for a copy of KLF vs ENT 3 a.m. ? > Or perhaps " The Comeback ? " could be interesting? > What " "new" Timelords single"? ? NIk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ("KLF archivist-of-information") Nick Gilmour E-Mail: N.W.Gilmour@selc.hull.ac.uk WWW: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dgilmour/nick.htm KLF FAQ: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dgilmour/klf-faq.txt ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 06:10:32 EDT From: Subject: Re: (klf) "new" timelordsingle > What " "new" Timelords single"? Just a reissue of TARDIS with the video tacked on. - -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 11:48:24 +0100 (BST) From: Culf Subject: Re: (klf) "new" timelordsingle > > What " "new" Timelords single"? > > Just a reissue of TARDIS with the video tacked on. > > -paul Ah, you mean the re-press of the one that came out in 1988 then. It always DID have the video "tacked on". And it always was a mysterious item. Actually "re-press" might be the wrong word - lets just be careful and say reissue (they mnight be original pressings that have just been found in the back of a warehouse somewhere and redistributed). Whatever way around it is, it's highly mysterious. Culf. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:51:04 EDT From: Subject: Re: (klf) "new" timelordsingle > Ah, you mean the re-press of the one that came out in 1988 then. > It always DID have the video "tacked on". And it always was a mysterious > item. [...] > Whatever way around it is, it's highly mysterious. I wonder: why is it considered "mysterious?" What was unusual about it apart from it being a CDV? - -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 14:15:05 +0100 (BST) From: Culf Subject: Re: (klf) "new" timelordsingle > > Whatever way around it is, it's highly mysterious. > > I wonder: why is it considered "mysterious?" What was unusual about it apart > from it being a CDV? It originally came out late in 1988, some time after the single itself appeared. It isn't a native KLF Communications release (it has this Scottish Phonovision name on it), and KLF Communications never referred to its existence in their own documentation. I've never been quite sure whether or not to regard it as a bootleg, or as a sanctioned release. It was only a very short time after that KLF Comms issued Kylie Said To Jason on CD single, and there was no suggestion then of putting the video on it. So, I don't know if its an official release or not. It looks kinda semi-official. Maybe other people know of more of these phonovision releases for other labels/artits. I've seen a couple, and for major artists, and it strikes me that major label artists wouldn't allow another company to put their material out for them, whether or not they do include their own video. But on the other hand, the master tapes for the tracks have to come from somewhere, as does the tape for the video. So, I really don't know. That's why I call it mysterious. The one that is doing the rounds now, from all I have heard about it, is exactly the same as the one I bought back then. Whether repressed or just rediscovered, I don't know. Culf. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 15:38:32 +0100 From: Andy Robinson Subject: Re: (klf) "new" timelordsingle Culf wrote: > But on the other hand, the master tapes for the tracks have > to come from somewhere, as does the tape for the video. > > So, I really don't know. That's why I call it mysterious. Well, if I was running my own record company and licencing my first no.1 single to a foreign label, I'd send them master tapes and a video for them to promote the single with - so it's doesnt seem mysterious to me. It's quite common for other countries to put slightly different tracklistings or cover artwork on a release to sell a few extra copies on export - a few examples should spring to mind... the 'wicker man' WTIL sleeve and the Autrian 'power' mixes, for example. My guess is that the disc is licensed to this label for some obscure territory, and the video was included to gain export sales... and they decided to do a re-press for the 10th anniversary, probably all destined for export. This would explain why (as with the American 'Chill Out' on TVT) it is not covered by the UK deletion of back-catalogue that happened when the KLF left the music industry. - - andy R. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 20:45:43 +0400 From: "Hvorostin 'SerH' Sergei" Subject: (klf) fnord mirror closedown Hi all! FNord Mirror site news here: Due to the original fnord site returning, the backup mirror will be closed in the nearest future. Public login to this site is disabled, but private accounts are still exists. Now, the mirror IS synchronized with the fnord base - *many_thanks* for your uploads and an advance! (you know your names, ppl ! :) ). Stand by the events... - ----- SerH. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 20:46:23 +0100 (BST) From: Culf Subject: Re: (klf) "new" timelordsingle > Well, if I was running my own record company and licencing my first no.1 > single to a foreign label, I'd send them master tapes and a video for > them to promote the single with - so it's doesnt seem mysterious to me. > > It's quite common for other countries to put slightly different > tracklistings or cover artwork on a release to sell a few extra copies > on export - a few examples should spring to mind... the 'wicker man' > WTIL sleeve and the Autrian 'power' mixes, for example. Hmmm.. but there's no indication that this is a foreign territory single. The address of the company is Edinburgh (not UK), the phone number is in domestic style, not International. Al the copyright details pertain to KLF Comunications, and it has an almost-but-not-quite KLF catalogue number (KLF CD-003). If I were a foreign record company, I'd be using my own catalogue numbering scheme. Alas, I can't remember what numbers were on the other Phonovision releases I've seen (it was a long time ago). The only non-UK link is that it was pressed by MPO in France, but that was perfectly typical of UK independent labels around that time, as MPO offered the best detail for shorter runs. Curiously, I don't think Tardis was pressed by MPO. Actually, not many KLF Coms were. > My guess is that the disc is licensed to this label for some obscure > territory, and the video was included to gain export sales... and they > decided to do a re-press for the 10th anniversary, probably all destined > for export. It's possible I guess, but I don't think its the case. Whatever the original origins of the disk, I believe it's just been rediscovered in a warehouse somewhere. In what sort of range of places has it been seen? Nicola at least has a copy, who else and from where? For reference, the matrix on my original is KLF "CD 003 MPO 05 @@" Culf. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 19:23:55 +0300 From: "Panayiotis 'Bizzzare' Liapis" Subject: (klf) Glasgow Record Shops Hi guyz, i'm going to Glasgow for a week on July 10th, and i was wondering whether= someone on the list could inform me on where i could find good vinyl shops= (especially hip hop related or KLF of course). Thanx! Aiight Chill, Bizzzare Love is, a soul in 2 bodies.. - -------------------------------------- Bizzzare, in his awesome obsessive quest towards 'The Lost Continent'.= There, he finds his 'White Room', tranquillity, and his 'Fleria'. He has= won... Obsessions : The KLF, 'Fleria', Video Games, Hip-hop, Cinema, CM2 Web-page : http://users.otenet.gr/~bizzzare Age:17 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ End of klf-digest V2 #113 *************************