From: owner-klf-digest@lists.xmission.com (klf-digest) To: klf-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klf-digest V2 #294 Reply-To: klf-digest Sender: owner-klf-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klf-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes klf-digest Friday, February 25 2000 Volume 02 : Number 294 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 09:49:06 +0000 (GMT) From: Stuart Bruce Subject: Re: (klf) Sash! Adelante On Wed 23 Feb, a9457399@wlv.ac.uk wrote: > > Has anyone noticed on Sash!'s new single,"Adelante" there's a > really strong Scottish sounding voice that bares a startling > resemblance to Bill Drummond's? Does anyone know whether it > _is_ him? It's the one that shouts "Bigamy" or whatever the word > really is ('cause it surely can't be that). It's really, really, very much not him. On the full-length version there's a conversation between the two people (might be a sample from a film, but it's not credited in the inlay) and that other character (the one who shouts not-quite-"bigamy!") has more to say- in fluent Spanish. And it's definitely not him. I look forward to the day when Bill Drummond does appear on a Sash! record. I'm beginning to think you only posted this for a laugh. Stuart. - -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk The Utah Saints Mailing List http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/UtahSaints # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 09:58:54 -0000 From: "M-A-D" Subject: (klf) Who's the Gimp? 8:00pm 1st March, 2000 The New Foundry Ltd., Great Eastern Street. London. Nearest Tube : Old Street http://www.t2k.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 05:40:36 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Wandering=20Nomad?= Subject: (klf) fnord... I know I've been lurking for some time now, and believe me I'm suitably ashamed, but I too seem to be unable to access Fnord nowadays. If someone could fling the L/P my way I'd appreciate it... Cheers, KJ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 14:16:30 +0000 From: Andrew Fox Subject: Re: (klf) 45 Yeah, I'm kind of half way through, and it is excellent. Some very funny bits, some sad disillusioned bits, some interesting ideas, you know... Nice 'object' as well, it's square and looks like it has been printed on handmade paper, and the title has been stencilled on. I got it last Friday at Waterstones, Oxford St, London. > Has anyone read 45 yet? Someone recently reported picking it up, and my > order from Amazon UK was shipped out today so... > > -paul > > Currenty in rotation: Too Much Joy - various # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 18:32:07 +0100 From: "Attila Bujt=?ISO-8859-1?B?4Q==?=s" Subject: (klf) LUTT Who made the LUTT? Is it one of those trials in the studio (10-12 tracks by Thorpe or Cauty ...maybe Cressida) what was made for inhouse use not for the public? The stolen ones? Or is it just a legend? Who knows something about it or about the studio staff? What is the truth? Attila # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 19:19:53 -0000 From: "Simon Coward" Subject: RE: (klf) Ultra Rare Trax > Sorry, I didn't state that clearly. The original KLF edition is one track. > The WT edition is broken down into individual tracks, is missing a couple > sound effects, and is 30 seconds shorter. As I understand it, and from what I've been able to hear, these are the differences between the UK and US Chill Out CDs: On the UK issue, the train noise near the start of "Pulling Out Of Ricardo..." seems to be slightly longer. May be my imagination. On the UK issue, there is another noise, like the sound of a truck or train starting, at the beginning of "3am Somewhere Out Of Beaumont" which is missing completely from the US version. This sequence, including a short pause before it takes up nearly 17 seconds. On the UK issue, there is a short gap of silence of at least a second, perhaps two before the start of "Trancentral Lost In My Mind" - this is cut back to less than half a second on the US issue. There is also an extra second or so of silence at the end of the UK CD. I also think the UK CD generally runs slightly faster than the US one, if that's possible. Even on sections where there's no obvious difference at all, the UK one seems to run a second or so longer. What there isn't, is an extra 30 seconds to "Alone Again With The Dawn Coming Up". Apart from the trailing silence, the two seem to match exactly from the start of "Trancentral Lost In My Mind" onwards. Simon. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 19:23:25 -0000 From: "Simon Coward" Subject: (klf) Bill D. on R4 Probably too late for most of you, but Bill Drummond will be talking on the BBC Radio 4 programme "Front Row" in the next half-an-hour or so. International readers of this message may be able to hear the broadcast via the following link: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/realplayer/index_fm.html Cheers, Simon. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 22:01:06 +0100 From: "Robert Vangus" Subject: (klf) The new manual? Hi all! Today was the starting day of the big book sale here in Sweden. I went down to the biggest store in Stockholm, and I must say I was very surprised when I spotted a copy of The Manual, in pocket format! (The copy I've got is in full A4 size).=20 Now I wonder ... Is this the re-press version that's been mentioned on the list recently? If it is, how is the availability of this edition? Does it differ in any other way, besides the format? Thanks / Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 23:25:52 -0000 From: "Simon Coward" Subject: RE: (klf) Bill D. on R4 > Probably too late for most of you, but Bill Drummond will be talking on the BBC Radio 4 programme "Front Row" in the next > half-an-hour or so. > > International readers of this message may be able to hear the broadcast via the following link: > http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/realplayer/index_fm.html Not especially illuminating, though Bill seemed in a jocular mood. I have taped it and will try to MP3 it at some point, although if anyone managed to record it directly on their PC perhaps they could do the honours - it will involve me in disentangling the tape deck from the rest of the stereo. Annoyingly, the link about carried part of the show, but not all of it. Cheers, Simon. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 05:59:15 +0100 From: Henro2k Subject: Re: (klf) The new manual? From the fingers of Robert Vangus: >Is this the re-press version that's been mentioned on the list recently? >If it is, how is the availability of this edition? >Does it differ in any other way, besides the format? The new edition has a preface by John Savage that was not included in the first edition, plus a new afterword section written by Bill Drummond. And considering that you can get them from amazon.com I'd say that they are pretty available. /Henrik - -><- No, Keep Running! It's Going To Be Big! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 01:35:11 -0800 (PST) From: victor alexander Subject: (klf) Just a test Sorry! Just a test. ===== Victor Alexander "Life is too harsh, my coffee shouldn't be" _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 12:33:58 +0100 From: "Frank den Bieman" Subject: (klf) fnord again i thought i got the pw of fnord right...but i haven't. or has it been = changed? can anyone tell / write / mail me the new one? Frank # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 11:07:37 EST From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: (klf) Kylie said MU So, I'm going through and sorting my KLF stuff as I want to digitize and organize it. I find I have an mp3 of a track called Kylie Said MU. It appears to be an early mix of one of the Kylie in a Trance remixes. Does anyone know where this came from? I try to keep track of the boots out there and this has yet to surface on one... Could it be from the CDR that surfaced last year with Love Trance? (and, btw, if anyone has a copy of that please contact me, I'd like to trade cdrs) - -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 11:08:57 -0000 From: "Mark Muldowney" Subject: Re: (klf) fnord... Great! I see fnord is no longer accepting the user and password Well done to those who cant reply with private emails... :( If the "sysop" could mail be privately i would be happy to supply a new hard drive so we can continue uploading. TIA Mark # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 16:56:26 +0100 From: Marek Mierzejewski Subject: (klf) Stadium House and other things For everybody curious enough what "Doctorin The Tardis" video parody looks like, go to http://rezist.com/djd The preview for this and other KLF clips should be there tonight DJD # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 08:51:47 PST From: "David Lindgren" Subject: (klf) klftshirt Hello everybody, Thought I´d mention that I wore my one of my klf tshirt at a thing called DISCO TV where they broadcasted from a club in my town in hope that my KLFtshirt would be shown on national tv, but no I came there to late. . There´s a picture of me on the web that was taken by the clubowner that night if someone would be interested in seeing it. The tshirt was made in Sweden and I bought it back in ´91. I´ve only sen mine and one more. Its black with big KLF in white on front and big why sheep ( Bill and Jimmy holding sheeps ( a sheep?) taken from the white room booklet in white on the back. I´ll send the webadress to the list if someone wants to have a look. .. I really like the idea to wear old KLF/JAmms & Utah saints tshirts at really trendy and hot clubs, as I usually wear trendy clothes its nice to just wear an old cool tshirt sometimes. . . BTW Has anyone being accused of having nazi thoughts for wearing the black its grim up north tshirt? DAvid ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 16:55:59 -0000 From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: (klf) t shirts I used to have a white Jamms t-shirt with 'Shag shag shag' written on it. Although it was an 'official' t-shirt, the quality of it was very poor and now it is nothing but a fond memory and an oily rag. The most enduring t-shirt I bought during that era was a MARRS 'Pump up.....' shirt which was excellent quality and still looks good today. I also got some MARRS boxer shorts which didn't last much longer than a week but I'm not sure what that says. Thinking about it, having the words 'Pump up the volume' emblazoned on your underpants is a little strange. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 18:42:36 +0100 From: Christian Villum Subject: SV: (klf) Ultra Rare Trax First thought: "This guy has too much spare time..." Second thought: "Respect..." ;-) / christian - -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: Simon Coward [SMTP:simon.coward@invisible-technology.com] Sendt: 23. februar 2000 20:20 Til: KLF Mailing List Emne: RE: (klf) Ultra Rare Trax > Sorry, I didn't state that clearly. The original KLF edition is one track. > The WT edition is broken down into individual tracks, is missing a couple > sound effects, and is 30 seconds shorter. As I understand it, and from what I've been able to hear, these are the differences between the UK and US Chill Out CDs: On the UK issue, the train noise near the start of "Pulling Out Of Ricardo..." seems to be slightly longer. May be my imagination. On the UK issue, there is another noise, like the sound of a truck or train starting, at the beginning of "3am Somewhere Out Of Beaumont" which is missing completely from the US version. This sequence, including a short pause before it takes up nearly 17 seconds. On the UK issue, there is a short gap of silence of at least a second, perhaps two before the start of "Trancentral Lost In My Mind" - this is cut back to less than half a second on the US issue. There is also an extra second or so of silence at the end of the UK CD. I also think the UK CD generally runs slightly faster than the US one, if that's possible. Even on sections where there's no obvious difference at all, the UK one seems to run a second or so longer. What there isn't, is an extra 30 seconds to "Alone Again With The Dawn Coming Up". Apart from the trailing silence, the two seem to match exactly from the start of "Trancentral Lost In My Mind" onwards. Simon. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 21:02:36 +0100 From: "Torsten Pattberg" Subject: Re: (klf) LTTT version > > Does anybody know if the "Last Train To Trancentral" version which is used > > in "Waiting" (it is the Pure Trance Version with a sample of "Go To Sleep" I > > think) is available somewhere? (starts at 21'45") Or was it just made for > > this piece? > > It's on the LTTT remix single, the one that has the 808 Bass remix and > "Meets The Moody Boys Uptown" etc. No it isn't. I am not talking about this remix which uses the whole "Go To Sleep" sample. It is (as I write above) the Pure Trance Version with a short sample (I am not sure if it is "Go To Sleep", it's too short to recognize) as in "Waiting". Torsten # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 22:56:55 +0100 From: "Robert Vangus" Subject: VB: (klf) t shirts - -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fr=E5n: Robert Vangus Till: Howat, Simon Datum: den 24 februari 2000 22:46 =C4mne: SV: (klf) t shirts - -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fr=E5n: Howat, Simon Till: Klf (E-mail) Datum: den 24 februari 2000 17:58 =C4mne: (klf) t shirts >I used to have a white Jamms t-shirt with 'Shag shag shag' written on = it. >Although it was an 'official' t-shirt, the quality of it was very poor = and >now it is nothing but a fond memory and an oily rag. The most enduring >t-shirt I bought during that era was a MARRS 'Pump up.....' shirt which = was >excellent quality and still looks good today. I also got some MARRS = boxer >shorts which didn't last much longer than a week but I'm not sure what = that >says. Thinking about it, having the words 'Pump up the volume' = emblazoned >on your underpants is a little strange. Yeah, I agree. Wouldn't it be more suitable with a Technotronic print = instead ;) / Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 14:43:54 -0800 (PST) From: victor alexander Subject: [none] Is there a new password for fnord? Is there anybody who could tell me that L/P? I dont wanna be the last one who get it, like always. :-/ ===== Victor Alexander "Life is too harsh, my coffee shouldn't be" _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 22:05:03 PST From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: (klf) Re: OK everyone, shut up about fnord. It is not a companion to this mailing list. If you don't have the log-in, and IP and stuff it's because the owner of the list doesn't want you to. I *had* that info, but do to some git posting it on the mailing list it's been changed, and now I have to ask for a new one, hoping I'll get it. Chad ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 22:14:20 PST From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: Re: (klf) Re: > >OK everyone, shut up about fnord. It is not a companion to this mailing >list. If you don't have the log-in, and IP and stuff it's because the owner >of the list doesn't want you to. > Sorry, I meant "owner of fnord doesn't want you to". Chad ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 10:31:13 +0100 From: "Frank den Bieman" Subject: (klf) Church of the KLF Mornin' via Napster, i found a "Church of the Klf 98 Remix", a (i think homemade) kind of techno mix of the Church. I'm just curious: anybody knows who did this little trick with the Church? [One of you guys/girls?] It's definitely not original Klf. Frank # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 13:07:19 -0000 From: "mark lewis" Subject: (klf) mp3's i has become apparent to me that some people are, in my veiw abusing the mp3 download idea by making available blatently trucated files. i have just downloaded 'igun' and a mix of 'teardrop' by 'massive attack' and they are worthless, the only person who is made up about them is my telephone company. this is not the first time it has happened and previously after spending 1 hr downloading an entire album only to find that whoever mp3'd it failed to notice his cd was skipping like a 7 year old on the beach. it's a waste of time and quit frustrating when you think you've found something cool. sorry to wigh. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 15:26:18 +0100 (CET) From: Adam Hauner Subject: Re: (klf) mp3's On Fri, 25 Feb 2000, mark lewis wrote: > i has become apparent to me that some people are, in my veiw abusing the mp3 > download idea by making available blatently trucated files. i have just > downloaded 'igun' and a mix of 'teardrop' by 'massive attack' and they are > worthless, the only person who is made up about them is my telephone > company. this is not the first time it has happened and previously after > spending 1 hr downloading an entire album only to find that whoever mp3'd it > failed to notice his cd was skipping like a 7 year old on the beach. it's a > waste of time and quit frustrating when you think you've found something > cool. The problem could be this: some webservers sends MP3 with MIME type text/plain (ASCII transfer, but binary transfer is right!). You can try MP3rest utility to clean sound of songs: http://web.pinknet.cz/aha/mp3rest.zip (24kB, DOS & Win32 aplication) BTW mp3 of 'The Church Of The KLF (Remix 98)' annonced by Frank den Bieman is available to download on: http://web.pinknet.cz/aha/klf-church98.zip (6MB, packed MP3) - -- Adam Hauner - -=[ AHA ]=[ aha@pinknet.cz ]=[ http://postcard.cz - http://alenka.cz ]=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 06:58:16 -0800 (PST) From: victor alexander Subject: [none] http://www.members.tripod.com/heavy_cargo/03_UfoToTrancentral Is this the one that some mention as LUTT? ===== Victor Alexander "Life is too harsh, my coffee shouldn't be" _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 08:05:50 -0800 (PST) From: victor alexander Subject: [none] http://www.members.tripod.com/heavy_cargo/03_UfoToTrancentral.mp3 The first address has no ".mp3" at the end. Use this. Sorry! ===== Victor Alexander "Life is too harsh, my coffee shouldn't be" _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 10:33:10 +0200 From: "David A" Subject: Re: (klf) fnord... Hey KLF'ers, Thanks to "Attila" I've lost my very long time access to Fnord too! :-( Please let me know the new details... Thanks. Cheers. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 18:59:43 +0100 From: "Attila Bujt=?ISO-8859-1?B?4Q==?=s" Subject: (klf) Thanx David! >From: "David A" >To: "Trancentral" >Subject: Re: (klf) fnord... >Date: Fri, Feb 25, 2000, 9:33 am > > > Hey KLF'ers, > > Thanks to "Attila" I've lost my very long time access to Fnord too! :-( > Please let me know the new details... Thanks. > > Cheers. Poor boy... many of the list members have never had that. Before anybody would say a F*** Y*** to me, here is the last email from me to the fnord sysop to let you know whats happened. I tried to be helpful because of the list members who asked that. Thats why I did send the L/P to the list. I thought this server for ANYBODY who loves the KLF, and together we could build up a complete KLF collection to share with anybody. The mail: - --------- > I closed down the site yesterday since we can't handle the traffic. It was the same before I did it. It was hard to connect and download or upload. But, sorry I did not know that, it is not for anybody who loves the KLF. Let me ask you: How can you judge it who deserve the password? I thoght music is free, especially the KLF. You are smiling when you receive an uploaded new track, and you are angry if people like to download or what. Sorry I did not know that this site only for only few people who wants to keep the treasure to ourselves and anybody else can go to hell. The people has bad feelings on the list, because they are excluded... But OK. Change the password and keep your stuff so that the KLF list members wont download. You have the right for it, its your decision, it your server. You just forgot one thing: IT WAS FOR THE KLF LIST MEMBERS not for the public. Nobody advertise it for the public. NOBODY. And your trafic was too high before I did it. Why dont you regulate the numbers of the connections before you stop the server. You better think of it, not because of me but the KLF list members. ...or is it better to act the martyr. Sorry for my style and for my english. Attila Why dont you make a Hotline server... much much easier to control the trafic, the protection and everything. - --------- So David, I have to say sorry, coz I usually do not count on ENVY! ...AND I LOST MY PASSWORD TOO! Another thing: Thanx Victor for the LUTT. It was a very fast download (16k) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 18:31:32 +0000 From: Craig Earnshaw Subject: (klf) Fnord....? I've been reading the group for some time now, and I must admit that I've often wondered what fnord _actually_ is. Can anyone help me out? Thanks Craig! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 12:40:12 -0600 From: Don Gagen Subject: (klf) Thanx David! It's not about being some sort of KLF elitist. There is a more practical reason behind this. Much of this stuff used to be on Mancentral and all on the list had access. It was meant for the list only, but people on the list told outsiders about it and eventually it had to be shut down. It would be nice to let everyone in on it, but eventually the wrong people will find out and the owner gets busted with copyrighted material on his site. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 20:01:04 +0100 (CET) From: Adam Hauner Subject: Re: (klf) Fnord....? On Fri, 25 Feb 2000, Craig Earnshaw wrote: > I've been reading the group for some time now, and I must admit that > I've often wondered what fnord _actually_ is. > Can anyone help me out? Fnord was private ftp server in Sweden with many songs of The KLF and related. Server has been closed... - -- Adam Hauner - -=[ AHA ]=[ aha@pinknet.cz ]=[ http://postcard.cz - http://alenka.cz ]=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 17:06:35 -0500 From: Positive Void Subject: (klf) 47 coming soon 29/04/00 will be a site for sore eyes # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 23:23:32 +0000 (GMT) From: Stuart Bruce Subject: Re: (klf) Thanx David! On Fri 25 Feb, Don Gagen wrote: > It's not about being some sort of KLF elitist. There is a more > practical reason behind this. Much of this stuff used to be on > Mancentral and all on the list had access. It was meant for the list > only, but people on the list told outsiders about it and eventually it > had to be shut down. It would be nice to let everyone in on it, but > eventually the wrong people will find out and the owner gets busted > with copyrighted material on his site. From what little I understand of the situation, I thought it was an entirely 'internal' matter. For ages, "fnord" was talked about in relatively hushed tones, and the details were passed on by private e-mail, not via the list- therefore (presumably) the traffic was occasional and reasonable, therefore manageable. Then somebody posted the details to the list, and quite predictably, the amount of traffic increases greatly. This causes problems, therefore the server has to close. Anyone whose name begins with "Att" who slams into the sysop of such a server because of this deserves removing from this list. It stinks of complete ingratitude. Nobody on this list is compelled to help anybody else out. And yet there's a good sharing attitude on this list (unlike other lists I could name where rare items are treated with a "ha ha, I've got it and you haven't"). Personally I'd just like to thank the people responsible for enabling this distribution of stuff, as and when it was possible. And I don't even _want_ a password- I've been doing damn well collecting KLF material the old-fashioned way, thank you very much. :-) I'm tried and I'll probably regret this rant in the morning. Stuart. - -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk The Utah Saints Mailing List http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/UtahSaints # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 16:03:48 -0800 From: Shilo & Michele Maggi Subject: (klf) Fnord, Mp3s and Hotline somebody on the list had mentioned (suggested?) putting the fnord archives on Hotline for all to abuse... I may actually be willing to do this, once i figure out a way to swing a larger Hard Drive (my cuirrent one is only 4 gigs). Wehile i dont have ALL of the materials that the fnord server did, i DO have probably 1/2 to 2/3rds... at least one full cds worth, and im sure that some list members would help out as well... Any input? - -s- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 17:20:34 -0800 From: Shilo & Michele Maggi Subject: Re: (klf) Fnord, Mp3s and Hotline X- Thanks kindly. Its going to take me a week or two to get everything sorted and work on scraping $ together for a new hard drive, etc. In the meantime, any suggestions from list members are greatly appreciated! Those who do contribute in any significant form will be given admin accounts on the server. Cheers all! - -s- > i can help you. I have quite a big KLF collection, and would be > willing to make mp3 copies of anything. > > Let me know > > Cheers > Xav # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 02:38:30 +0100 From: "Attila Bujt=?ISO-8859-1?B?4Q==?=s" Subject: Re: (klf) Thanx David! > On Fri 25 Feb, Don Gagen wrote: >> It's not about being some sort of KLF elitist. There is a more >> practical reason behind this. Much of this stuff used to be on >> Mancentral and all on the list had access. It was meant for the list >> only, but people on the list told outsiders about it and eventually it >> had to be shut down. It would be nice to let everyone in on it, but >> eventually the wrong people will find out and the owner gets busted >> with copyrighted material on his site. When I got this mail I felt ashamed of myself, coz it was very clear. (If this story would have been told before...) But "Somebody whose name begins with "Stu" gives the story no peace. > From: Stuart Bruce > Subject: Re: (klf) Thanx David! > To: KLF mailing list > Anyone whose name begins with "Att" who slams into the sysop of such a > server because of this deserves removing from this list. It stinks of > complete ingratitude. Excuse me, I'm not ingrate. It was NOT TOLD that the fnord is not for the list members. Everybody talk about fnord as an official server of the list. IT MAKES MISUNDERSTANDINGS! How do I and the people know that this is just a private site? The server was slow before. The server has not free space. The incoming folder was not cleaned, organized. There was too much connection yet. These are the reasons why it is slow. I've been there. > For ages, "fnord" was talked about in > relatively hushed tones Relatively hushed???? How could it be relatively hushed???? Every 5th mail is about something on or from fnord. > and the details were passed on by private > e-mail, not via the list In this case, the list members had the L/P via private mailing except few members. Mine came via the same way. So in this case how could the amount of traffic increase greatly. C'mon man. I think this was just a good reason to change the password, and decrease the number of the people seasonably. Another thing: I remember the KLF/KLF L/P. Do you remember? Guess how did I know. VIA THE LIST. In the last year. > because of this deserves removing from this list. "Somebody whose name begins with "Stu" who can judge anybody before ask one question: "Did you know that this is a private server". I tell you this information lost between two passwords. Read this line again if you can not read it because of "the stink of" subjectiveness. Finally, let me introduce the "name begins with "Att". It's Attila. Ancient hungarian name, means Sword of God. The name of the greatest commander of the Huns. Not a nickname but my real first name. > I'm tried and I'll probably regret this rant in the morning. Try much much harder, coz I do regret this whole story... Attila # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ End of klf-digest V2 #294 *************************