From: owner-klf-digest@lists.xmission.com (klf-digest) To: klf-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klf-digest V2 #299 Reply-To: klf-digest Sender: owner-klf-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klf-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes klf-digest Thursday, March 2 2000 Volume 02 : Number 299 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 15:26:45 PST From: "Chad Gombosi" Subject: Re: (klf) bootleg cds You guys are forgetting that new "In Store Sampler" 12". If anyone knows where to get it, or has an extra, please sell it to me. I'm not really into boots but this one is pretty cool, and it's on vinyl. Chad ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:36:28 EST From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) bootleg cds > You guys are forgetting that new "In Store Sampler" 12". > > If anyone knows where to get it, or has an extra, please sell it to me. I'm > not really into boots but this one is pretty cool, and it's on vinyl. I think I saw it on GEMM the other day. But all it's tracks are taken directly from URT... - -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 20:46:24 +0200 From: "David A" Subject: Re: (klf) bootleg cds > "real bootlegs" > > > 1987 What The Fuck Is Going On? (black sleeve bootleg) > > 1987 What The Fuck Is Going On? (red sleeve bootleg) > > Ultra Rare Trax > > The lost Sounds Of Mu 1 > > The lost Sounds Of Mu 2 > > The White Room Original Motion Picture Soundtrack > > Space CD1 > > Space & Chill Out > > Anthology 2 (Orb + KLF) + Waiting For The Rites Of Mu. > "just cd-r" > > > Waiting > > Made@3am > > Barbican Performace > > Scourge Of The Earth > > Arkive Vol. 1 > > Arkive Vol. 2 If I wasn't so lazy I'd list all Lars Nellemann's cd-r's... there is a lot. Byyeee! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 08:19:01 +0100 (CET) From: Adam Hauner Subject: (klf) The Top 531 Sampling Groups Hi, I found this page, see records of JAMs and KLF: http://www.pvv.unit.no/~eddie/cigehn/grouplist.html#LJAMs%2C+The http://www.pvv.unit.no/~eddie/cigehn/grouplist.html#LKLF%2C+The - -- Adam Hauner - -=[ AHA ]=[ aha@pinknet.cz ]=[ http://postcard.cz - http://alenka.cz ]=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 19:53:26 +1100 From: "Mr. Mute" Subject: Re: (klf) hardknox Gregor John Aitchison wrote: > > Hi, > I was at the Moby concert in Glasgow at the weekend , the > support ban had sampled some MU MUs for one of their songs. Not to mention that they were throwing Monopoly money into the crowd while they were playing it... at least here in Sydney. > The band are called Hardknox, they are alright but the two female > strippers they had on stage were fantastic, I think their album is > out soon but I wont be buying it. It's been out for a good while now, and they've had singles out years ago. In case anyone doesn't know and does care, this band is the current project for former Beats International singer Lindy Layton. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 19:54:39 +1100 From: "Mr. Mute" Subject: (klf) [Fwd: 45 and other related books and people] "Howat, Simon" wrote: > > Sorry, but I am going to have to stick up for '45' again. I lay in bed last > night and read the chapter about the Echo & Bunnymen/Teardrop Explodes era. > A lot of it is nonsense (simultaneous gigs in Iceland/New Guinea) Haven't seen 45 down here yet, but I wonder about this; in Repossessed, Balfe tells Cope that Bill's plan was to have the Bunnymen in Iceland and the Teardrops in New Zealand at the same time, in order for him to ride the leyline. Could it be that Bill changed the locations just to show up Julian? The more likely scenario would be that Julian didn't remember properly after all this time, except for the fact that he notes that it went wrong because they were still in Australia at the moment that the Bunnymen were in Iceland, and hadn't hopped the Tasman. Not that New Guinea is that far off, but New Zealand is a hell of a lot closer... Anyone be arsed to offer an opinion? In case not, here's a question about one of the above personages: how do you pronounce Dave Balfe's surname? In Julian Cope Is Dead, Bill sings it as Balf-e, so I assumed that that was the regular pronunciation. However, in the Blur bio 3852 Days (insert correct figure), the interview transcripts often render the subjects references to him as Balfey, as though this pronunciation is just a common, affectionate nickname type thing. So what's the deal? Balfie or Balf? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:00:10 +0000 From: Nigel_Armstrong@tertio.com Subject: Re: (klf) [Fwd: 45 and other related books and people] Thanks for that, he said briefly delurking. I think this has got to be one of the great transcription errors of all time:- "I Get This Feeling", Jackie Wilson.' Fits with the ABBA theme, though. (For those of you too young to remember the LATE and VERY GREAT Jackie Wilson, the words being groped for are 'the Sweetest'.) What is it about TOTP and Jackie Wilson? Years later, they illustrated Dexy's Midnight Runners' 'Jackie Wilson Says' with a picture of _Jocky_ Wilson, the unphotogenic darts player. Nigel Armstrong # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 10:20:33 +0100 From: "Thomas Helvard" Subject: (klf) sampling When JAMMs sampled ABBA's 'Dancing Queen', they were threatened with lawsuits to hell and back.... When they sampled Whitney Houston in 'Whitney Joins the JAMMs', nothing happened!! Why?? Why weren't Bill & Jimmy sued like the case with ABBA? Is it me there hasn't read the FAQ proberly, og did they get away with it?? - - Thomas # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:02:42 +0000 From: Nigel_Armstrong@tertio.com Subject: Re: (klf) The Top 531 Sampling Groups Damn, this was the mail I meant to reply to. Just to be consistent: I have always pronounced it Bayf, by analogy with Ralph. Nigel Armstrong I'm sorry. It's early. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:36:02 -0000 From: "Sampson, Neil" Subject: (klf) hello hello ? hi all, soz to bomb the list like this, but it is to your advantage, honest.... could Dj Dominion drop me an email asap just to confirm his postal address and email address at the moment ? Dj D - you'll know what i'm on about ! Thanks in advance laters neil The Kause - lurking patiently beneath the murky waters of list-placid ! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 02:45:05 -0700 From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: (klf) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:41:45 -0000 > Waiting For The Rites Of Mu is generally considered to be a bootleg. Are you sure? I got what pretty much looks like a genuine release. The record shop I bought it in is well known to me and would never sell a bootleg. I can't remember the label or other details but I am sure it is a genuine release. Not sure what I think of it though, a little bit too much Martin Sheen in 'Apocolypse Now' for my liking. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:51:36 +0000 From: Nigel_Armstrong@tertio.com Subject: Re: (klf) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:41:45 -0000 >> Waiting For The Rites Of Mu is generally considered to be a bootleg. >Are you sure? I got what pretty much looks like a genuine release. The >record shop I bought it in is well known to me and would never sell a >bootleg. I can't remember the label or other details but I am sure it is a >genuine release. As discussed at the time, this was a clever piece of 'marketing' by the bootleggers. They sent the disc unsolicited to various shops and distributors. It looked like a genuine small label release but it was unlicensed by the copyright holders, so definitely a bootleg. The KLF would never put anything out as the 'Kopyright Liberation Front', nor use the graphics style of the cover (wrong typeface, colour combination etc). And the limited edition number (3333) is a load of bollocks as well. Nigel Armstrong # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 03:11:35 -0700 From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: (klf) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 10:08:32 -0000 Speaking of odd bootlegs, does anyone recall a 12" put out by Fierce records of Swansea around the time of the first JAMMS releases. It purported to be by the JAMMS themselves but it clearly wasn't. In fact it was appalling. However, I got a copy (pretty pricey as I recall) and idly wondered if it is a sought after item in any way. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 10:14:53 -0000 From: Dan Abel Subject: FW: (klf) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:41:45 -0000 Howat, Simon [mailto:Simon.Howat@atex.co.uk] wrote: > > Waiting For The Rites Of Mu is generally considered to be a bootleg. > > Are you sure? I got what pretty much looks like a genuine release. The > record shop I bought it in is well known to me and would never sell a > bootleg. I can't remember the label or other details but I am > sure it is a > genuine release. Not sure what I think of it though, a little > bit too much > Martin Sheen in 'Apocolypse Now' for my liking. um, its complicated... there are various stories around the release (which in same ways fits so well with the KLF-thingy it makes it look more like a real release :) ). please someone correct me if wrong... Firstly, so retailers have said that they had it supplied to them whether they ordered it or not... it was just packaged up with some other orders. Secondly no one knws where the tracks have come from, they don't match up with the videos that they pertain to come from and some list members with good ears say they can hear the splices etc on the tracks.. and this suggests amateur production. it has also been said that one of bill or jimmy wasn't happy with the release, of which they knew nothing about, and was gonna get the law onto the record label... some other people suspected that one of the lads might have wanted some money for a project, but didn't wanna / couldn't release it under normal means (copywrite? contracts? ) so they did this and then made a fuss to put the heat off him.... um, what else... oh someone else can continue, but thats the various stories i can remember... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 02:24:15 PST From: "Stephane MONTHIEU" Subject: (klf) KLF in France Hi all, Nobody in France remember KLF, exept DJ and people in the electronic music. But for all that know them, it's a genius group. It's because of it that Pills has covered 'WTIL' in his last album 'Musicsoldia' and Superfunk has sampled 'OK everybody lie down on the floor and keep calm' in their album 'Hold Up' (track 9 'Hold Up'). cheers - ------------------------------ Stephane "Steve M.D." MONTHIEU "Ladies and gentlemen, The KLF has now left the building..." ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 23:28:20 +1300 From: Stuey & Michelle Subject: Re: (klf) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:41:45 -0000 "Howat, Simon" wrote: > > Waiting For The Rites Of Mu is generally considered to be a bootleg. > > Are you sure? I got what pretty much looks like a genuine release. The > record shop I bought it in is well known to me and would never sell a > bootleg. Well first off, there's a spelling mistake above. Its actually Waiting for the _Rights_ of Mu, which is a major clue, as in Echo Beach, the record label that put it out never got permission to do it. Its NOT just a spelling mistake on behalf of the german who run Echo Beach, because Rites of Mu is spelt correctly elsewhere on the cover. Secondly, the is WFTROM a bootleg or not has not been decided for sure one way or the other on the list as far as I can remember. cheers - -- Stuart Young and Michelle Ardern, say.map@ihug.co.nz 66a Sackville Street, Tel: +64 (0)9 376 8100 Grey Lynn, Auckland, NZ Did you know Stuey is the webmaster of the NZ Green Party? http://www.greens.org.nz/ Stuey's groovy website is direly in need of updating: http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~stuey/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 23:42:13 +1300 From: Stuey & Michelle Subject: Re: (klf) The Top 531 Sampling Groups Adam Hauner wrote: > I found this page, see records of JAMs and KLF: > > http://www.pvv.unit.no/~eddie/cigehn/grouplist.html#LJAMs%2C+The > http://www.pvv.unit.no/~eddie/cigehn/grouplist.html#LKLF%2C+The What the Fuck is going on? Some people obviously have much more time than sense. Weird. Still, I want to come up with some more KLF samples so they can be boosted up the list. Anal obsessive obviously. - -- Stuart Young and Michelle Ardern, say.map@ihug.co.nz 66a Sackville Street, Tel: +64 (0)9 376 8100 Grey Lynn, Auckland, NZ Did you know Stuey is the webmaster of the NZ Green Party? http://www.greens.org.nz/ Stuey's groovy website is direly in need of updating: http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~stuey/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 14:11:19 +0000 (GMT) From: Culf Subject: (klf) Mancentral down shortly Hi all, This is just to let you know that as of some point tomorrow, Mancentral will be down and unavailable for an indeterminate amount of time. It will hopefully be only a few days, but may well be several weeks The site has undergone some changes recently, probably with more to come. http://klf.life.eu.org Culf. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 15:09:09 -0000 From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) [Fwd: 45 and other related books and people] > In case not, here's a question about one of the above personages: how > do you pronounce Dave Balfe's surname? In Julian Cope Is Dead, Bill > sings it as Balf-e, so I assumed that that was the regular > pronunciation. However, in the Blur bio 3852 Days (insert correct > figure), the interview transcripts often render the subjects references > to him as Balfey, as though this pronunciation is just a common, > affectionate nickname type thing. Easy I'd have thought, David Balfe where Balfe is pronounced "Balf". Nickname "Balfie" (like "Smithie" for John Smith, "Jonesey" for Fred Jones, etc.). Quite common in the UK, and I thought quite common in Aus too... Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 15:55:20 -0000 From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 10:08:32 -0000 > Speaking of odd bootlegs, does anyone recall a 12" put out by Fierce records > of Swansea around the time of the first JAMMS releases. It purported to be > by the JAMMS themselves but it clearly wasn't. In fact it was appalling. > However, I got a copy (pretty pricey as I recall) and idly wondered if it is > a sought after item in any way. Never seen it, but remember reading about it in Record Collector *many* years ago, and of course on the web since. If we're doing vinyl, there's another release which is similar in status to Waiting For The Rites Of Mu, and that's the double sided 7" vinyl repressing of 3AM External vs Extreme Noise Terror. I bought mine at a major record store (HMV I think) in central London, but I believe it is a boot. However there has been some suggestion that the KLF pressed it up to give to ENT as payment. (That's assuming there was only one rerelease of this track, the record is at my parents' house and I've not checked the catalogue number). Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 15:26:46 -0000 From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:41:45 -0000 > > > Waiting For The Rites Of Mu is generally considered to be a bootleg. > > > > Are you sure? I got what pretty much looks like a genuine release. The > > record shop I bought it in is well known to me and would never sell a > > bootleg. > > Well first off, there's a spelling mistake above. Its actually Waiting for the > _Rights_ of Mu, which is a major clue, as in Echo Beach, the record label that > put it out never got permission to do it. That's a nice idea, not heard it before (or forgot it). Hmm... However, I thought Echo Beach were adamant that it was official. > Its NOT just a spelling mistake on behalf of the german who run Echo Beach, > because Rites of Mu is spelt correctly elsewhere on the cover. That it's spelt correctly elsewhere on the cover doesn't prove a thing by itself, it could still be a typo. I can easily mistype a word in one sentence and then get it right in the next. Even easier to do when the words are interchangeable in terms of pronunciation but not meaning. Of course if it is just a typo, that is the kind of amateurish thing bootleggers do - except Echo Beach were previously a legitimate record label! Man I give up, you should have let my original (correct) assertion be ;-) > Secondly, the is WFTROM a bootleg or not has not been decided for sure one way > or the other on the list as far as I can remember. Right, and how does that statement clash with my original statement that the release is "*generally considered* to be a bootleg"? :) The story has been better explained by other people's followups, but on the evidence my feeling and I believe that of most others on the list is that it is a bootleg (with my second favourite theory being that this is a KLF sanctioned "official bootleg", a way of making a crafty few quid). It's not been decided for sure, which is why I said "generally considered" :) Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 11:58:19 +0100 From: "Thomas Helvard" Subject: Re: (klf) KLF in France How well known is KLF in other countries? In Denmark they are fairly known, however not as 2K og JAMMs, just The KLF. It's my feeling that most people here know of the more popular tracks (Stadium House Trilogy, J&A and A:WTIL), ie. only the tip of the iceberg. However, I'm doing what I can to spread the word :-) - - Thomas - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephane MONTHIEU" To: Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2000 11:24 AM Subject: (klf) KLF in France > > Hi all, > > Nobody in France remember KLF, exept DJ and people in the electronic music # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 10:54:51 +0000 (GMT) From: " \"Christopher.D.Gilmour\"" Subject: Re: (klf) 45 discussions (fwd) - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 10:17:35 +0000 To: ldu97199@ccsun.strath.ac.uk Subject: Re: (klf) 45 discussions Hmmm, I don't recall saying it was all lies, but that it was PROBABLY all lies. This is confirmed at some points in the text by Bill himself. Accept the contradictions. As for whether or not certain things are real, I can confirm that the tunnel (assume you mean the one in Bad Wisdom with the gates which opened by themselves), is most definitely real. I have been through it (them, there's two) myself, on the way to Nordkapp, and on the return leg and have observed the large hydraulic gates. I even have the photos to prove this (would put them on the web, but my site keeps disappearing) IMHO, with "45", Bill is trying to go through one of those life-defining exercises, which he always seems to be doing (c.f. "The Man", 2K and that Radio 1 "Story of Pop" interview). I concur the prose may appear contradictory and rambling at times, and I also think that Bad Wisdom was a better read. I had a skim thru it in Waterstones the other day over a coffee, and again found myself skipping Zed's bits in order to follow the story progression. As ever, I watch and wait with avid awareness. BTW anyone wanting to enhance their kollection with a signed and numbered piece of artwork by Bill should check out the current Mancentral discussion lists :) Rgds, NIk >NIk, one of the elder list members, advised me not to beleive any of the >stuff in 45, as it was all lies. What's what Drummond claims about most >of >the stuff he writes and is written about him. >My thang is this. How much of it is made up and how much of it is real >and >how much of it is in between. Does that tunnel really exist? Did he >really >head up the congo. Was he really born in Butterworth CP or was that >really >his name. And how can someone born in south Africa and spent his life >from >age 17 onwards in England claim to be Scottish? >Ooh, and has anyone noticed that he turns into Victor Meldrew in many of >the stories? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 17:46:42 +0100 (CET) From: Adam Hauner Subject: Re: (klf) KLF in France On Thu, 2 Mar 2000, Thomas Helvard wrote: > How well known is KLF in other countries? In Denmark they are fairly known, > however not as 2K og JAMMs, just The KLF. It's my feeling that most people > here know of the more popular tracks (Stadium House Trilogy, J&A and > A:WTIL), ie. only the tip of the iceberg. In Czech Republic is situation same (in czech record stores was only The White Room album)... - -- Adam Hauner - -=[ AHA ]=[ aha@pinknet.cz ]=[ http://postcard.cz - http://alenka.cz ]=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 16:51:20 +0000 (GMT) From: Culf Subject: Re: (klf) 45 discussions (fwd) > As for whether or not certain things are real, I can confirm that the > tunnel (assume you mean the one in Bad Wisdom with the gates which opened > by themselves), is most definitely real. I have been through it (them, > there's two) myself, on the way to Nordkapp, and on the return leg and have > observed the large hydraulic gates. I even have the photos to prove this > (would put them on the web, but my site keeps disappearing) I thought the tunnel mentioned in the previous mail was the one near his former home in Scotland (the one he finally went back to see if it really did exist on a drive back from Ireland. I intend to check this out using the references in the book, since I'm in that area from time to time, and my fiancee knows it well. An OS map may be useful. Or perhaps he did mean the Norwegian one after all. Culf. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 16:04:14 -0000 From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) [Fwd: 45 and other related books and people] > (For those of you too young to remember the LATE and VERY GREAT Jackie Wilson, > the words being groped for are 'the Sweetest'.) What is it about TOTP and > Jackie Wilson? Years later, they illustrated Dexy's Midnight Runners' 'Jackie > Wilson Says' with a picture of _Jocky_ Wilson, the unphotogenic darts player. As far as I know, the bands themselves decide how they will be artistically presented on Top Of The Pops (fairly obviously, that's why the KLF managed some great performances on the show). Dexy's probably thought it would be a laugh to use a picture of Jocky Wilson, and they're right aren't they? Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 12:10:06 EST From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) KLF in France > > How well known is KLF in other countries? Here Stateside I rarely find anyone who's heard of them. At best via 3am Eternal (and even then they only recall a song that went "KLF! Aha Aha!") But there was once this older guy (late 50s) who sat right behind me at work - - backs were practically against each other - who really enjoyed whatever music I was playing. He loved it when I got into my Doo Wop phases as he used to sing it on the street corners of NY. Anyway, he really started to enjoy KLF. Even gave him a tape of White Room and Chill Out which he told me he'd always listen to on the way home. He'd hum Build a Fire and Justified and Ancient and could always tell when I put something of theirs on. He said they had a certain "sound" you could always pick out. He could even hear rip offs from other bands (there's a St. Entine track which sounds a lot like WTIL). Anyway, he passed on last year, but I'll always be amused by the thought of hearing this 57 year old guy quieting singing along to Go To Sleep. - -paul just wanted to add that i still get bummed out whenever i hear _closer you are_ by the channels... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 17:57:38 GMT From: "DJ Kuta" Subject: (klf) ambient track Hi! I've got a slight problem. I got an ambient track here but don't know what's it called! Sounds like ORB-related and is in Chill Out style. The main characteristics: - -it lasts 20:16 and starts with a loud cockcrow - -a choir comes in at about 1:00 and comes back from time to time - -very famous guitar sample (U2???) - - "oh my gosh" and "the music just turns me on" samples Help desperately needed!!! Thx, DAN ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 18:01:49 -0000 From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) KLF in France Nothing to do with France per se, but it's interesting how (a) the KLF are remembered by most ordinary folk as a good but not spectacular hit-making factory, but (b) were highly regarded by the dance community for the original version of What Time Is Love? (Just look at the booklet with Trance Europe Express, for example, to see how many dance luminaries name-checked that track in their influences). Chill Out is also much respected by those in the know (and for me is still just about the best ambient house album ever). The Shamen are a similar phenomenon in my opinion. Highly regarded for their Synergy tour, their innovative fusion of dance and indie, and the excellent Progen and Hyperreal singles, they're remembered by most people for Ebenezeer Goode and Mr C's "cheesy" rapping. (That's not a flame against Mr C, BTW). Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 18:07:09 -0000 From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:41:45 -0000 > For what it's worth, I've asked a contact who knows the chap who runs Echo > Beach to ask him what the deal was with this release. If I find anything > out, I'll post to the list. That would be wonderful, as it's always been a bit of a mystery :) I bought it thinking it was at least semi-official, and then the consensus changed. Would be nice to sort it once for all. > Echo Beach still are a legitimate record label though, despite this > potentially "shady" release. Maybe it was all a big cock up then? All I can say is that it was almost definately Echo Beach and not an imposter, as the release was listed on their web site. I think we should be told the truth! :) Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 11:11:38 -0700 From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: (klf) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 18:08:25 -0000 Bear in mind that for many people the klf will exist as 'that band' the Timelords who had a hit with....can't even bring myself to write it. If only we could change history. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 18:23:38 -0000 From: "Stephen Kennedy" Subject: Re: (klf) ambient track > I've got a slight problem. I got an ambient track here but don't know what's > it called! Sounds like ORB-related and is in Chill Out style. The main > characteristics: > > -it lasts 20:16 and starts with a loud cockcrow > -a choir comes in at about 1:00 and comes back from time to time > -very famous guitar sample (U2???) > - "oh my gosh" and "the music just turns me on" samples The cock crow and the vocal samples suggest almost certainly that it's A Huge Ever Growing Pulsating Brain That Rules From The Centre Of The Ultraworld (Loving You), usually referred to as AHEGPBTRFTCOTU or AHEGPB for obvious reasons! I reckon it's probably the glorious Peel Sessions version, recorded by Jimi Cauty and LX Dee in late '89. Vintage stuff and absolutely brilliant. As for the guitar sample, Pink Floyd???? Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 10:30:14 PST From: "henrik uddemar" Subject: (klf) KLF in Sweden In Sweden klf is quite well known also for there hit doktorin the tardis. There was also a radio program named popkorn special that explaind aboute everything aboute klf. Also the are quite well known after the incident with ABBA :-) i got the program on tape if there is anyone that want it i can make mp3 of it. (Who ever got my other mail, SORRY it disaperd i cyberspace) >How well known is KLF in other countries? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 19:25:12 GMT From: "Kade Angus" Subject: (klf) Go To Sleep Hi! Does anyone know a link for an MP3 of Go To Sleep? Kade ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 19:25:12 GMT From: "Kade Angus" Subject: (klf) Go To Sleep Hi! Does anyone know a link for an MP3 of Go To Sleep? Kade ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 19:31:38 +0000 From: "Agust 'Nemesis1' Arni Jonsson" Subject: Re: (klf) ambient track At 18:23 2.3.2000 +0000, Stephen Kennedy wrote: > > I've got a slight problem. I got an ambient track here but don't know >what's > > it called! Sounds like ORB-related and is in Chill Out style. The main > > characteristics: > > > > -it lasts 20:16 and starts with a loud cockcrow > > -a choir comes in at about 1:00 and comes back from time to time > > -very famous guitar sample (U2???) > > - "oh my gosh" and "the music just turns me on" samples > >The cock crow and the vocal samples suggest almost certainly that it's A >Huge Ever Growing Pulsating Brain That Rules From The Centre Of The >Ultraworld (Loving You), usually referred to as AHEGPBTRFTCOTU or AHEGPB for >obvious reasons! > >I reckon it's probably the glorious Peel Sessions version, recorded by Jimi >Cauty and LX Dee in late '89. Vintage stuff and absolutely brilliant. get that cd! 43 minutes of brilliance :) The Orb: Peel Sessions [Oct 1991] radio session album LP: 1991 UK (Strange Fruit; SFRLP 118) CS: 1991 UK (Strange Fruit; SFRMC 118) CD: 1991 UK (Strange Fruit; SFRCD 118) CD: 1992 US (Strange Fruit/Dutch East India; DE 18119-2) [11 Feb 92; track 2 index moved] CD: 199? RU (Strange Fruit; PMT 002 {ORB - MPT 002}) [bootleg; redone back insert] 20:10 A Huge Ever-Growing Pulsating Brain... (loving you) 10:00 Back Side of The Moon (tranquility lunar orbit) 12:20 Into The Fourth Dimension (essenes in starlight) ["Pulsating Brain" rec. 3 Dec 89, mix by Jimmy Cauty] ["Back Side"/"Fourth Dimension" rec. 2 Oct 90, mix by Thrash] Agust "Nemesis1" - aaj@centrum.is - ICQ: 1290264 - http://nemesis1.cjb.net w00p! :P # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ End of klf-digest V2 #299 *************************