From: owner-klf-digest@lists.xmission.com (klf-digest) To: klf-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klf-digest V2 #337 Reply-To: klf-digest Sender: owner-klf-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klf-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes klf-digest Wednesday, June 14 2000 Volume 02 : Number 337 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 14:42:55 CEST From: "Dan Kuta" Subject: (klf) New Scooter single vs. The KLF Hi all! When Torsten Pattberg told me that the new Scooter single "I'm your pusher" was very much like IGUN I was quite curious. So I went downtown and listened to it - he's definately right! The third track on the single CD is VERY similar after all! Moreover, the video really looks like The White Room in a way! But what struck me even harder was the inner sleeve of the single, showing the three guys with an old black car with the Scooter logo sticking on the driver's door!!! Furthermore the landscape is "White Room"-ish! Are they Doctorin' The Tardis or what? Check out the photo: http://www.scooter-music.com/main.html What do you think about all this??? Dan - --- DJ Kuta /KLF Online (www.klf.de) ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 14:52:31 +0200 (CEST) From: Adam Hauner Subject: Re: (klf) New Scooter single vs. The KLF On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, Dan Kuta wrote: > Are they Doctorin' The Tardis or what? > What do you think about all this??? I'm collecting Scooter's MP3s for my friend and I can say, that there are many links to KLF inside songs of Scooter I think, that Scooter are plagiators, my friend tell me, that members of Scooter are fans of The KLF (source: some interview). BTW Dan, look for song called 'Psycho' and listen carefully words... =) - -- Adam Hauner - -=[ AHA ]=[ aha@pinknet.cz ]=[ Koukni na http://www.slunecnice.cz ]=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 15:37:30 +0200 From: "Marek A. Mierzejewski" Subject: (klf) Deep Shit mp3 yes K people grab it from http://www.freedrive.com user: djdominion pass: tceptal folder: My Folder/KLF/mp3 make sure you got your cookies enabled. or visit http://www.klf.de from where I sampled the tune. enjoy - -- Dj Dominion [IHS Tranceptal Force] http://rezist.com/djd http://www.tranceptal.prv.pl icq: 74481158 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 11:51:52 +0100 From: XACT Intermedia Subject: (klf) [Fwd: Veterans Will Remember!] - -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Veterans Will Remember! Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 14:22:51 +0100 From: K Reply-To: xact@uk2.net Organization: Post_Samplists Mailing List (xact@uk2.net) To: futuremusic@futurenet.co.uk Hi. Looking for help from FM or its readership on tracking down items concerning the KLF, X$X and 'The Black Room' in the pages of FM between '93 and '95. My only vague recollection was of a CD-Rom which some journalists at the NME had tried to put in a CD-player back in those 'Don't Play Track One' days of folk-lore. Reportedly, all that happened was 74 minutes of silence followed by the words 'Don't Buy The Black Room'. I've since heard a lot more about this jolly bunch and like the good anal-retentive I am am eager to track down the offending evidence. Any hep will be rewarded with my rare .mp3 collection of X$X 'vapourware' which I've already accumulated. You have been persuaded! Yours, in an official capacity, of course, Michael K # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 05:37:09 GMT From: "e. lanum" Subject: (klf) Re: (orbital) OT: St. Louis Question try vintage vinyl and deep grooves, both are on like the 6300 block of delmar in university city. vintage has a pretty huge and varied selection as far as for things to do ttheres a shitload depending on what your into sports, the arch, union stations prretty cool, there are also some good clubs, cheetah and velvet on washington street hope this helps ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 19:19:40 +0100 From: "Ollie" Subject: Re: (klf) tent with flag marked '23' at glastonbury :O) i really dont know, i am just going to try to get over the fence and camp where i can! i have no idea what or where the 'tipi' field is :-) but if you have that flag you mentioned i will certainly look out for it see you i hope at the festival! ps. i'll try to bring some copies of the white room movie which i have on cd as a pc .mpg movie if you are (or anyone else is) interested Ollie > > > You got in the Tipi field? > > Not sure where I'm camping. Have 2 options....hmmm > > M > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 18:56:05 +0100 From: Michael K Subject: (klf) [Fwd: Veterans Will Remember!] - -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Veterans Will Remember! Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 14:22:51 +0100 From: K Reply-To: xact@uk2.net Organization: PSI To: futuremusic@futurenet.co.uk Hi. Looking for help from FM or its readership on tracking down items concerning the KLF, X$X and 'The Black Room' in the pages of FM between '93 and '95. My only vague recollection was of a CD-Rom which some journalists at the NME had tried to put in a CD-player back in those 'Don't Play Track One' days of folk-lore. Reportedly, all that happened was 74 minutes of silence followed by the words 'Don't Buy The Black Room'. I've since heard a lot more about this jolly bunch and like the good anal-retentive I am am eager to track down the offending evidence. Any hep will be rewarded with my rare .mp3 collection of X$X 'vapourware' which I've already accumulated. You have been persuaded! Yours, in an official capacity, of course, Michael K # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 19:07:31 +0100 From: "Ollie" Subject: Re: (klf) Bill and 45 12" remix to appear in Bath you liar! :-) i said nothing .. heh heh Ollie > > > > > "If Bill was actually selling this, he'd be charging too much > > > > money for it, so it's alright to steal it!" > > > > > > > > > > Erm, don't think I said this either? Or was it Ollie? > > > > Yeah, that was Ollie. > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 04:13:03 +0100 From: "Ollie" Subject: (klf) STEAL IT ALL and be done with it hello all, i don't think there's any need to get worked up about this latest topic. there's the funny side to it and then there is the moral side of whether theft is acceptable (in any form.) you could argue both sides until you are blue in the face and still resolve nothing (like a software piracy debate or a debate about racism !) i'm thinking of compiling "10 questions you'd like to ask bill" and maybe trying somehow to get them to him. my initial thoughts are perhaps: "have you ever been beaten up" and "do you like star trek" (haha no deep questions here :-) can anyone come up with some decent questions? anyway, that's all, bye for now Ollie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 12:48:50 +0200 From: "Kjetil Limkjaer" Subject: RE: (klf) Steal This '45'? Andrew, > And all this crap about junkies etc..... stealing for a fix - its > easy to be a benevolent do-gooder until its *your* house gets broken > into, *your* rare vinyl that gets stolen or trashed, *your* tv that > takes a walk or *your* car that disappears in a cloud of dust. Most > of us work pretty hard to maintain whatever standard of living we > have, just like Bill Drummond. I thought the point was that the copies are going to be auctioned off to the highest bidders, and the money from this will be torched. If this is the case, I can't see what difference it would make whether some bloke nicked one or not. If someone steals my TV, that's one thing, if someone steals the TV I'm going to give away to some random rich person on the street I can't really say I care. Kjetil Limkjaer Developer FIQAS Software BV - First In Quality And Service Hornweg 5 1432 GD AALSMEER The Netherlands Tel: +31 (0)297-382323 Fax: +31 (0)297-382324 E-mail: kjetil@fiqas.nl Visit our website at http://www.fiqas.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 01:40:36 +0200 From: "Marek A. Mierzejewski" Subject: (klf) Deep Shit mp3 yes K people grab it from http://www.freedrive.com user: djdominion pass: tceptal folder: My Folder/KLF/mp3 make sure you got your cookies enabled. or visit http://www.klf.de from where I sampled the tune. enjoy - -- Dj Dominion [IHS Tranceptal Force] http://rezist.com/djd http://www.tranceptal.prv.pl icq: 74481158 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 21:50:51 +0200 From: "Thomas Touzimsky" Subject: (klf) Scooter again... Hi all, I had the great pleasure (veeeery ironic!) to watch the new Scooter video= on MTV this afternoon. Don=B4t remember who posted it on the message list, b= ut... yes, it looks very much like the White Room - and at the opening, you cou= ld really think it is ripped from IGUN... So what are all the other KLF / Scooter relationships that are known yet?= I know of the album ("Back to the Heavyweight Jam" - no, this is definitevl= y NOT stolen... ;-) ) and the track "F*** the millennium", but are there = any more... ehm, "random equalities"? (I don=B4t like Scooter, but I was interested in this...) Thanks in advance! cy@ c-Row # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 16:14:50 -0400 From: Dance S Paterson Subject: (klf) Re: (orb) OT: St. Louis Question Its been a wile but there was an electric veinal store in the U City Loop. If you are in downtown its a ride but I got some good stuff from there. Good luck. bro ps, I read the rules, im not sure if I can mention my web site, can I? > greetings all and apologies for the all too frequent crosspost, > > Can anyone recommend decent music stores in St. Louis, especially > one that > would carry eclectic vinyl? used would be great but new is cool as > well. > thanks to all for the time. > > oh, reason of course, is that i have a trip planned to st. louis > next > week... any suggestions for things you would not want to miss while > visiting st. louis are welcome as well. > > lysergic > ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 10:13:25 -0500 From: "Michael 'Maxx' Porter" Subject: (klf) Re: [CZ] OT: St. Louis Question Vintage Vinyl in the loop (University City on Delmar) At 11:24 PM 6/8/00 -0500, lysergic maximus wrote: >greetings all and apologies for the all too frequent crosspost, > >Can anyone recommend decent music stores in St. Louis, especially one that >would carry eclectic vinyl? used would be great but new is cool as well. >thanks to all for the time. > >oh, reason of course, is that i have a trip planned to st. louis next >week... any suggestions for things you would not want to miss while >visiting st. louis are welcome as well. > >lysergic > > end **************************************************************************** ************* Worry is like a rocking chair - it gives you something to do but it doesn't get you anywhere. -Dorothy Galyean **************************************************************************** ************* Michael "Maxx" Porter Vice President Paradox Studios Inc. mailto:maxxwell@theparadox.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 16:34:02 +0100 (BST) From: Stuart Bruce Subject: RE: (klf) "Bring the beat back" Re: Atomic Kitten On Sat 10 Jun, Derek Knight wrote: > [somebody else wrote:] > > For their first single "Right Now" they sampled S-express-theme from > > s-express. The J&A Bring the beat back is definatly KLF-who would > > have liscensed this? I'm wandering why Atomic Kitten are sampling > > early 90's dance tracks anyway... > > I somehow doubt that it's the girls' idea ;o) > > I guess their producer/s are fans of that era. Also, I'd imagine that > those artists are more sample friendly, as they were sampling everyone > else themselves. As far as I have been able to tell, Atomic Kitten are (or unless somebody was just joking when they told me this) the new front for the production team that has emerged out of the ashes of Orchestral Maneovres in the Dark. Now, OMD get a bad wrap nowdays for some of the blander pop stuff they put out, but some of their production work has been very good, and albums like "Liberator" are covered in the subtle use of samples throughout- including for example that Robocop sample that can be heard at the very beginning of the "White Room" version of "Last Train To Trancentral". So to see the emergence of a slightly tongue-in-cheek pop band front to ex-OMD producers, well I was optimistic that it might bring a little touch of class into a girl-band area currently dominated by tedium and stupid blonde American bimbos. However, their new single- which borrows ideas quite heavily from 808 State's "The Only Rhyme That Bites" (1990?) plus the KLF sample already mentioned (1991)- is frankly quite bland. I'm hoping things will improve... Oh, did somebody want some KLF content? Erm... Oh. Stuart. - -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk The Utah Saints Mailing List http://www.onelist.com/community/utahsaints/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 18:47:27 +0200 From: Mattias Frid Subject: Re: (klf) Scooter again... At 21:50 2000-06-10 , you wrote: >So what are all the other KLF / Scooter relationships that are known yet? I >know of the album ("Back to the Heavyweight Jam" - no, this is definitevly >NOT stolen... ;-) ) and the track "F*** the millennium", but are there any >more... ehm, "random equalities"? Lots of references to KLF on the BTTHWJ-album... Read the lyrics on some of the songs. They even mention something about Mu there... Don't remember the details, but I posted them on the list when the album was released... Go dig in the archives... or steal the record (don't buy it, it's crap...) /Frid - ----------------------------------------------------- Mattias Frid "People say: 'Just read the Framtidsv. 4:313 facts!' Well, I've read them, S-35252 Vaxjo and you can have them back!" SWEDEN - Bill Drummond, "The Man" - http://www.student.vxu.se/home/mfrsv95/index.html - ----------------------------------------------------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 19:54:30 +0200 (CEST) From: Adam Hauner Subject: Re: (klf) Scooter again... On Sat, 10 Jun 2000, Thomas Touzimsky wrote: > So what are all the other KLF / Scooter relationships that are known yet? I > know of the album ("Back to the Heavyweight Jam" - no, this is definitevly > NOT stolen... ;-) ) and the track "F*** the millennium", but are there any > more... ehm, "random equalities"? Scooter will have new album called "Sheffield". Read towns in IGUN. - -- Adam Hauner - -=[ AHA ]=[ aha@pinknet.cz ]=[ Koukni na http://www.slunecnice.cz ]=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 22:11:19 +0200 (CEST) From: Adam Hauner Subject: (klf) The KLF Videos Update (K-FRONT 3) Hi, there are some new stuff on ftp.pinknet.cz (same user and password). As part of Marek Mierzejewski's KLF Liberation Front project is now ready to d/l CD 3: K-FRONT/K-FRONT 3/ Contains: K-Foundation clip.mpg 13.6 MB [2K] - Barbican Gig (Camcoder Footage).mpg 472.5 MB [The KLF] - Stadium House (Work Version).mpg 197.0 MB P.S.: I'm sorry for a pause in updating... - -- Adam Hauner - -=[ AHA ]=[ aha@pinknet.cz ]=[ Koukni na http://www.slunecnice.cz ]=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 23:58:01 +0200 From: "Marek A. Mierzejewski" Subject: Re: (klf) "Bring the beat back" ok, just to cut short this discussion, I've uploaded a few Public Enemy clips to my freedrive.com account (l:djdominion p:tceptal) My Folder/Public Enemy 1. Bring-The-Beat-Back.mpg [3.9 MB] a short excerpt of the excellent London gig all the way back from 1987. Do you think Ricardo was there and therefore nicked the phrase??? ;) 2. Bring-The-Beat-Back.viv [1 MB] the same thing in lo-res Vivo file. Go to www.vivo.com for the player. 3. Bring-The-Beat-Back.mp3 [379 kb] a sped up version of the above clip. Actually, "Funky Drummer" sounds dope-cool at this speed. Enjoy. - -- Dj Dominion [IHS Tranceptal Force] http://rezist.com/djd http://www.tranceptal.prv.pl icq: 74481158 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 23:48:56 +0100 (BST) From: Stuart Bruce Subject: (klf) Robocop sound On Mon 12 Jun, Marek A. Mierzejewski wrote: > > that Robocop sample that can be heard at the very beginning of the > > "White Room" version of "Last Train To Trancentral". > > huh??? > what sound??? The big DUUUUUUWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW sound that signals the end of "Church Of The KLF" and the beginning of "Last Train To Trancentral" on the White Room album. For ages I thought it was an original KLF-made noise, but then I watched "Robocop" and had to pause & rewind at the bit where the giant two-legged robot enters the conference room and powers up (or was it powers down?) and noticed that it's exactly the same noise. Thought I'd mention it in case anybody else didn't know... Stuart. - -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk The Utah Saints Mailing List http://www.onelist.com/community/utahsaints/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 23:50:22 +0100 (BST) From: Stuart Bruce Subject: Re: (klf) Public Enemy On Mon 12 Jun, Marek A. Mierzejewski wrote: > > ok, just to cut short this discussion, I've uploaded a few Public > Enemy clips to my freedrive.com account (l:djdominion p:tceptal) > > My Folder/Public Enemy Several people on this list know, I'm not one to pass up an opportunity to mention the Utah Saints at any possible opportunity- and this seems like a good opportunity. Chuck D (Public Enemy) is the guest vocalist on the new Utah track "Power To The Beats", which might be their next single, and even if not it will definitely be on the forthcoming album (due September). Stuart. - -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk The Utah Saints Mailing List http://www.onelist.com/community/utahsaints/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 07:13:28 GMT From: mute@tpg.com.au Subject: Re: (klf) STEAL IT ALL and be done with it Ollie said: > i don't think there's any need to get worked up about this latest topic. > there's the funny side to it and then there is the moral side of whether > theft is acceptable (in any form.) I still don't see why it's supposed to be funny that Bill got robbed, whether by a fan, a junkie, or a clueless idiot. Meanwhile, Kjetil Limkjaer "thought the point was that the copies are going to be auctioned off to the highest bidders, and the money from this will be torched. If this is the case, I can't see what difference it would make whether some bloke nicked one or not. If someone steals my TV, that's one thing, if someone steals the TV I'm going to give away to some random rich person on the street I can't really say I care." Where was it ever announced that the copies were to be auctioned off and the money torched? I don't remember anything about that being mentioned on the list, and last week the Penkiln Burn site still had the days and times that you could visit the Foundry to read the books. Has anything like this actually been said anywhere, or are people now just pulling ideas that Bill will get money any way he can and immediately set fire to it out of their arses? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 01:56:03 -0700 From: Shilo & Michele Maggi Subject: Re: (klf) STEAL IT ALL and be done with it So... Can somebody explain why the theft of intellectual properties is admirable, even warranting a newsgroup, yet the theft of physical properties is damnable? Or am I misunderstanding what Kopyrite Liberation Front stands for? Somewhere, Bill D is grinning at all this petty drama. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 10:33:59 +0100 From: Mark_Silver@CYPHERGROUP.COM Subject: (klf) Stadium House Hi, I'm just wondering if anyone has any stills from the Stadium House video kicking around? Particularly one's with the Pyramid Blaster stage in shot. Thanks M # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 12:45:33 +0200 From: "Marek A. Mierzejewski" Subject: Re: (klf) Stadium House > Hi, I'm just wondering if anyone has any stills from the Stadium House > video kicking around? Particularly one's with the Pyramid Blaster stage in > shot. I believe there's one nice picture from the Stadium House stage on my freedrive.com account. l:djdominion p:tceptal My Folder/KLF/Pics - -- Dj Dominion [IHS Tranceptal Force] http://rezist.com/djd http://www.tranceptal.prv.pl icq: 74481158 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 12:23:05 +0100 From: Mark_Silver@CYPHERGROUP.COM Subject: Re: (klf) Stadium House Cheers matie. Had a quick look, though it doesn't seem to be letting me download anything. Will try again in a bit. Thanks Mark To: klf@lists.xmission.com cc: (bcc: Mark Silver/CYPHER) Subject: Re: (klf) Stadium House > Hi, I'm just wondering if anyone has any stills from the Stadium House > video kicking around? Particularly one's with the Pyramid Blaster stage in > shot. I believe there's one nice picture from the Stadium House stage on my freedrive.com account. l:djdominion p:tceptal My Folder/KLF/Pics - -- Dj Dominion [IHS Tranceptal Force] http://rezist.com/djd http://www.tranceptal.prv.pl icq: 74481158 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 13:17:22 -0400 From: demetrius@poppad.com Subject: Re: (klf) STEAL IT ALL and be done with it If you steal an intellectual property and create a shared piece from it's ashes, you've got something. When you whisk away a work for your own selfish consumption, that's another matter. It's Art destroying art for Art's sake vs. limited materialistic vision. Would you rather be a producer using available materials to invent or a consumer bent on obtaining output by any means necessary? On the other hand, it's a symbiotic relationship, one needs the other to survive. Or perhaps it's ethics and morality vs. freedom and fun. Don't lose yourself in rigid realities. It's all subjective. - -d # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 14:37:26 EDT From: RobertStringerR@aol.com Subject: (klf) I would like that pic also! If someone gets the PP Blaster pice please send it to me. Eternaly Yours, Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 20:56:31 +0200 From: "Marek A. Mierzejewski" Subject: Re: (klf) Stadium House > Ihave the video on VHS tape if anybody's interested, I can rip-out some Stadium House stills from the mpeg file - -- Dj Dominion [IHS Tranceptal Force] http://rezist.com/djd http://www.tranceptal.prv.pl icq: 74481158 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 19:03:11 -0500 From: "Quahogs!" Subject: Re: (klf) STEAL IT ALL and be done with it > If you steal an intellectual property and create a shared piece from it's > ashes, you've got something. When you whisk away a work for your own > selfish consumption, that's another matter. What if you chopped it into pieces and made a sculpture out of it? - --Quahogs-- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 01:12:17 +0200 From: "Marek A. Mierzejewski" Subject: Re: (klf) STEAL IT ALL and be done with it > What if you chopped it into pieces and made a sculpture out of it? The Jams should have bulit a pyramid from the unsold "1987" copies - -- Dj Dominion [IHS Tranceptal Force] http://rezist.com/djd http://www.tranceptal.prv.pl icq: 74481158 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 16:36:02 -0700 From: Shilo & Michele Maggi Subject: Re: (klf) STEAL IT ALL and be done with it Who is talking about ashes? The Queen and I isnt quite based around a snippet of a sample... And only time will tell if the missing book will be used to selfish consumption, or the further creation of a shared piece. Hell, I wouldnt be surprised if the book wasnt really missing as such, but rather "misplaced" (read:Bill D style publicity stunt) in order to act as the catalyst for further speculation. > > > If you steal an intellectual property and create a shared piece from it's > > ashes, you've got something. When you whisk away a work for your own > > selfish consumption, that's another matter. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 02:39:39 GMT From: mute@tpg.com.au Subject: Re: (klf) STEAL IT ALL and be done with it > > > If you steal an intellectual property and create a shared piece from it's > > ashes, you've got something. When you whisk away a work for your own > > selfish consumption, that's another matter. > > What if you chopped it into pieces and made a sculpture out of it? INTELLECTUAL property. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 12:08:17 +0200 From: "Kjetil Limkjaer" Subject: FW: (klf) STEAL IT ALL and be done with it (sorry you get this twice Mute, I was intending to send it to the list), > Meanwhile, Kjetil Limkjaer "thought the point was that the copies are > going to be auctioned off to the highest bidders, and the money from > this will be torched. If this is the case, I can't see what > difference it would make whether some bloke nicked one or not. > Where was it ever announced that the copies were to be auctioned > off and the money torched? I don't remember anything about that being > mentioned on the list, and last week the Penkiln Burn site still had > the days and times that you could visit the Foundry to read the books. > Has anything like this actually been said anywhere, or are people > now just pulling ideas that Bill will get money any way he can and > immediately set fire to it out of their arses? The message that started this entire thread was from one John C.S. Quel, saying: "Unfortunately he only caught a few minutes of Bill's 'talk', which seemed to go down well with the assembled weirdos and worshippers. Five copies of the 12" '45' were lodged in the jazz-net-cafe within the Brasserie for folk to modify while partaking of the excellent coffee and croissants until next Saturday (the 10th). Half-inched very limited edition copies will shortly be available ... bids of at least a couple of hundred quid (in a plain brown envelope) which will be ritually torched on the last night of the Fringe - -- video evidence to follow! Disappointingly, I guess, by last Sunday *only* one copy had been nicked!" I'm not sure where this was pulled from, but at least this is the message I was thinking of in my reply.. Peace, Kjetil Limkjaer Developer FIQAS Software BV - First In Quality And Service Hornweg 5 1432 GD AALSMEER The Netherlands Tel: +31 (0)297-382323 Fax: +31 (0)297-382324 E-mail: kjetil@fiqas.nl Visit our website at http://www.fiqas.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 00:02:05 -0400 From: demetrius@poppad.com Subject: Re: (klf) STEAL IT ALL and be done with it >What if you chopped it into pieces and made a sculpture out of it? Point taken. Collage is an accepted form of art, whether the material used was nicked or not. Isn't sampling a form of audio collage? I always viewed it that way. >Who is talking about ashes? The Queen and I isnt quite based around a snippet of >a sample... The Queen and I had quite a social commentary over the Abba track in question, leading me to say that something old made something new. It was a composition with a point and not a throw away track aimed at making fun of Frida and company. A sample is a sample whether it's a beat, 4 bars, or close to an entire song. Lace it with a kick drum, scratching and kazoo-duck like synth and you may have a piece that will get you sued when it hits stores shelves, especially when you don't have permission to use it. It's funny the musical community is more in tune with granting artists the right to use their songs in today's day and age. >Hell, I wouldnt be surprised if the book wasnt really missing as such, but >rather "misplaced" (read:Bill D style publicity stunt) in order to act as >the catalyst for further speculation. The only folks speculating about the "disappearance" are us on the list. I would like to think Bill could pull a grander prank than stealing his own books which he printed himself and could simply reprint again. Something targeted at the media perhaps to allow more limelight to shine? Publicity does help book sales whetehr you're Bill Durmmond or not. The main question is whether whoever has the "stolen" 12 inches will share the unedited copy with all or keep it to themselves. Right or wrong...it's still all subjective. - -d # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 22:56:39 +0200 (CEST) From: Adam Hauner Subject: (klf) Small problem Hi, there is small problem with KLF archive on ftp.pinknet.cz. My friend, admin of this mashine, has silly think to change FTP daemon. He done it very fast, all is running okay, just KLF account... Please, stand by day or two, he has some problem with configuration. I do apologize =( - -- Adam Hauner - -=[ AHA ]=[ aha@pinknet.cz ]=[ Koukni na http://www.slunecnice.cz ]=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ End of klf-digest V2 #337 *************************