From: owner-klf-digest@lists.xmission.com (klf-digest) To: klf-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klf-digest V2 #480 Reply-To: klf-digest Sender: owner-klf-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klf-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes klf-digest Tuesday, September 11 2001 Volume 02 : Number 480 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2001 21:05:46 +0100 From: John Subject: Re: (klf) Bill's sleeves notes for "Zodiac Mindwarp Live from the Reading Festival" Mark writes >Looking up ZMindwarp on the 'net A mate of mine went to the Billy Childish gig in Rochester last Thursday night and Mark Manning was there. He had a chat with him and he told him about his next book "Bottom Boy" about gay football hooligans, and then did a little impromptu recitation from the first chapter for Billy and him. He's yet to send me some extracts from MM`s "Fucked By Rock" as well... when they eventually surface from one of the many boxes that have resulted from a recent flat move. He saw mild mannered Mark Manning doing a reading (supporting Billy at the Clerkenwell festival) earlier this year, from his new book (work in progress I think) called "Fucked By Rock" (which is a phrase that has scarcely left his lips ever since - as he and the 23 year old Danish freak in his office still greet each other with raised devil fingers, and bad American accents "Fukked By Rawk" - which, given that he's fat and nearly forty, probably looks pretty fucking stupid!!!) about his time as Zodiac Mindwarp. My mate managed to swipe his notes which were left lying around as he sped to the bar... three stories of racist misogny and excess, he should be getting a scanner soon and will then send them my way (if he can find them amongst the removal debris!) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 15:24:39 +0100 From: "Michael Hurwood" Subject: (klf) Band Parallels (A bit OT) Hi all, I thought I'd de-lurk for a moment to examine some of the parallels between The KLF and another of my favourite bands, "This Is Serious Mum", also known as "TISM". (There's the first parallel... they hame a long name and an abbreviated version.) The Australian members of the list will know who I am talking about, but the rest of you are probably just saying "Who?" at this moment. TISM are a highly successful Australian Indy band, having formed in 1992 and just about to release a new album, but due to various factors they have not, and are unlikely to ever, achieved any international success. So, who are they? Well, first of all, nobody really knows since they only ever appear in public wearing balaclavas to obscure their faces and only answer to pseudonyms. (Much like the early days of the JAMs, where in interviews Bill and Jimmy only answered to Rockman Rock and King Boy D.) The band line up has changed over the years, but the two main front men have always been 'Ron Hitler Barrassi' and 'Humphrey B Flaubert'. Their music has evolved over time, moving from guitar rock to sample-based and drum-machine techno/dance. Their topic matter is usually satirical in nature, and often based on local issues (hence the unlikeliness of them ever being a hit overseas.) Publicity stunts are also a big part of the band's activities. Their first interview for the release of their first album ("Form and Meaning Reach Ultimate Communion") was with, I believe, Australian Rolling Stone. The interviewer had to stand at one end of a football field while the band stood at the other. Questions and replies were done via megaphone. As an extra complication a piece of string was run between the two groups, and the band refused to answer questions unless the string was tight. Other interviewers have been forced to wear scuba equipment. The band has just recently signed with their third record label, Mushroom. Polygram dropped the band in 1991 for being too difficult to work with, but were picked up by Indy label "Shock Records". The change this year to Mushroom was described as "amicable" however. The group had one of their albums withdrawn after being sued over the cover art. The EP, "Australia, the Lucky Cunt", feature a Koala shooting up with a needle in the style of Ken Done. After being forced to withdraw the album it was re-released under the title "Censored Due To Legal Advice" with a new cover feature Sinead O'Connor tearing up a photo of the band's name. "Machiavelli and the Four Seasons", the band's greatest commercial success so far also had a song removed after legal advice. The album won the Aria award for Best Album that year. Rather than accept the award themselves it was accepted by Les Murray, a local Football commentator (and the subject of one of the songs on the album.) Les accepted the award then gave a prepared speech in Hungarian. Later translation revealed that the speech basically slagged off the music industry and press as arseholes. (This album contained the great tracks "(He'll Never Be An) Ol' Man River" [sometimes referred to as "I'm On The Drug That Killed River Phoenix"], "All Homeboys Are Dickheads" and "!Uoy Sevol Natas".) Just as Bill and Jimmy came back with "Fuck the Millennium", a single almost designed to have zero airplay, in 1998 TISM released "I May Be A Cunt, But I'm Not A Fucking Cunt." This was the first single for their new album "www.tism.wanker.com". (I think the site is gone now.) The album came with an extra bonus disk, printed to look like a CD-R with the script "Att: Shock Records Faulty Pressing Do Not Manufacture" scrawled across it. Some stores apparently returned the discs thinking they were included by mistake. (Always ones for innovative packaging, one of their very first singles was released on 7", but inside a 12" sleeve, with all 4 sides glued shut.) Like Bill and Jimmy they are also truly multimedia artists. In 1989 they released a book "The TISM Guide To Little Aesthetics" (Published by "Stock, Aristotle & Waterman") which, once again, was got at by the lawyers. All copies sold today have many phrases blacked out to censor potentially libellous statements. There is lots more to find out about their live concerts, their songs and their true identities, but I'll leave that to those who are interested. Suffice it to say that like Bill and Jimmy they always seek to surprise, and they are obviously much "deeper" than they might first appear. Michael - -- Michael Hurwood E-Mail: Web Page: "Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to evade the need to think and evaluate evidence. Faith is belief in spite of, even perhaps because of, the lack of evidence." - Richard Dawkins "Keeping an open mind is a virtue -- but, not so open that your brains fall out." -James Oberg # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 11:50:21 +0100 From: "Michael Hurwood" Subject: (klf) Lily Was Here Remix Hi all, In the Discography, there is an entry: [David A. Stewart: Lily Was Here] [on David A. Stewart: Lily Was Here--Orb/KLF remixes] 12": 1989 UK (??; ANXT 014-A) [promo] CS5: 1989 UK (??; ZD-43046) [tracks unconfirmed] 8:08 Lily Was Here (space centre medical unit hum) 6:56 Lily Was Here (orbital space lab mix) [Cauty: remix] I recently found a tack on Napster/WinMX listed as simply an "Extended Remix" of Lily Was Here, with a running time of 8:04. It has a lot of spacey sound effects and some overlayed bullsh*t about sub-harmonic wave patterns on the earth's surface revealing the landing locations of UFO. Can anybody confirm if this is the same track as the 8:08 track above? Thanks, Michael - -- Michael Hurwood E-Mail: Web Page: "Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to evade the need to think and evaluate evidence. Faith is belief in spite of, even perhaps because of, the lack of evidence." - Richard Dawkins "Keeping an open mind is a virtue -- but, not so open that your brains fall out." -James Oberg # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 16:07:15 +0200 From: "3x" <3x@boa.hr> Subject: (klf) Where in the world is Lazlo Nibble ? Hi dear ppl, I'd like to contact Lazlo Nibble (Ernie Longmire). Does anybody knows his regular e-mail? I've sent him one to Studio Nibble but no reply. Thanks 3x # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 15:36:53 +0100 From: "Carl Durber" Subject: (klf) Up-to-date KLF FAQ? Does anyone know where I can find an up-to-date KLF FAQ? I have one at the moment but it hasn't been updated since about 1997. Cheers, Carl. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 10:09:27 -0700 From: Chris Johnson Subject: Re: (klf) Where in the world is Lazlo Nibble ? 3x wrote: > > Hi dear ppl, > > I'd like to contact Lazlo Nibble (Ernie Longmire). > Does anybody knows his regular e-mail? > I've sent him one to Studio Nibble but no reply. Lazlo is MIA, and has been for nearly a year. He hasn't had a net presence of any kind, AFAICT, since late last year. (Which contributed to the recent near-meltdown of the orblist.) Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 19:38:53 +0100 From: "Darren Forster" Subject: Re: (klf) Band Parallels (A bit OT) > I thought I'd de-lurk for a moment to examine some of the parallels between > The KLF and another of my favourite bands, "This Is Serious Mum", also known > as "TISM". (There's the first parallel... they hame a long name and an > abbreviated version.) Wow they certainly do sound KLF-ish. Do you think B&J could have moved to Australia - anyone else remember what the KLF said when they left the music industry. Their plan was to come back under a totally different name and see if they could get to number 1 (so they could test whether they were getting to no 1 just 'cos they were The KLF or 'cos they were writing good music). Either that or could TISM be following in the path of The KLF. btw... I've come up with a superb name for a pop group wanting to cause attention to their abbreviated name The World According To... :). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 20:03:57 +0100 From: "Michael Hurwood" Subject: RE: (klf) Band Parallels (A bit OT) > > I thought I'd de-lurk for a moment to examine some of the parallels > > between The KLF and another of my favourite bands, "This Is Serious > > Mum", also known as "TISM". (There's the first parallel... they hame > > a long name and an abbreviated version.) > > Wow they certainly do sound KLF-ish. Do you think B&J could have moved to > Australia - anyone else remember what the KLF said when they left > the music industry. Their plan was to come back under a totally different > name and see if they could get to number 1 (so they could test whether > they were getting to no 1 just 'cos they were The KLF or 'cos they were > writing good music). Either that or could TISM be following in the path > of The KLF. Actually, due to a typo in my message, I said they started in '92, when in fact they formed in '82. So, if anything, Bill and Jimmy have been following in the footsteps of these Australian trend-setters, not the other way round. And you thought Kylie was the only thing good to ever come out of Australia. Shame on you! > btw... I've come up with a superb name for a pop group wanting to cause > attention to their abbreviated name The World According To... :). Almost as good as "Committee for the Liberation and Integration of Terrifying Organisms and their Rehabilitation Into Society". Michael # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 16:14:56 EDT From: TheMgnt@aol.com Subject: Re: (klf) Where in the world is Lazlo Nibble ? > > I'd like to contact Lazlo Nibble (Ernie Longmire). > > Does anybody knows his regular e-mail? > > I've sent him one to Studio Nibble but no reply. > > Lazlo is MIA, and has been for nearly a year. He hasn't had a net > presence of any kind, AFAICT, since late last year. He posted a comment to the ZTT list recently, but that was all, just a one line comment on a cd. Nothing further. I assume life is getting in the way and he no longer has the free time to devote to such things, which is all fine and well, but you'd think he'd pop his head in once in a while to check in on the kids. :) - -paul # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 22:15:57 +0200 (MEST) From: scream84@dolfijn.nl (Bryan Altepping) Subject: (klf) I'm searing for the very cool Mike Dutton Vhs video , who can help me? hi I'm searing for the very cool Mike Dutton Vhs video , who can help me? im desperate :( So if somebody got it , and is willing to copy one for me , for money o= fcourse > Please answer! Contact me on icq : 54230331 or email : scream84@dolfijn.nl or scream_1= 11@hotmail.com Thank you P.s : I life in The Netherlands ( That's near Germany ) Greetings , Bryan Altepping ______________________________________________________________ Gratis e-mail en meer: http://www.dolfijn.nl/ ilse weet nu ook alles van muziek! http://ilsemusic.ilse.nl/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 13:33:35 -0700 From: Chris Johnson Subject: Re: (klf) Where in the world is Lazlo Nibble ? TheMgnt@aol.com wrote: > He posted a comment to the ZTT list recently, but that was all, just a one > line comment on a cd. Nothing further. I assume life is getting in the way > and he no longer has the free time to devote to such things, which is all > fine and well, but you'd think he'd pop his head in once in a while to check > in on the kids. :) Cool. At least he's alive. :) Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 01:29:15 +0100 From: Fisheye Subject: (klf) Abandon all art now-in exchange for =?iso-8859-1?Q?=A3=A3=A3=3F=3F=3F=21?= Ok, Im gonna attempt 2 sell a couple of items I have doubles of, so losing 1 wont be so bad! I have 1 copy of 1987 album availbale, not an original, but from the batch that was recently on sale in HMV a yr or so ago. The other item is a a large ( i dont have a tapemeasure handy, but its as long as my arm roughly!) vinyl ,sticky backed banner from BillDrummonds Intercontinental Twinning Association. It has a purple border and the text reads: The Intercontinental Twinning Association has selected HULL to be twinned with YOUR DARKEST THOUGHT. If you have any idea what this means or what it could lead to, please contact ita@penkiln-burn.com' There is a ITA logo in the bottom right corner. I also have a a few penkiln-burn postcard number6. The front photo is of a sign which reads : Belfast City welcome to BELFAST The sign has been modified and underneath it says 'TWINNED WITH YOUR WILDEST DREAMS' On the back of the postcards it has 'pb postcard 6' in the top left corner. Underneath in bottom left corner is a small box with the ITA logo and the following text: 'The Intercontinental Twinning Association twins five cities in five continents. City 1: Belfast, October 2000' I am open to offers on all these objects of desire. - -- - -- 01100110 01101001 01110011 01101000 01100101 01111001 01100101 o O O o o O o <@>< Overgrow the Government! There ain't no Sanity Clause. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ End of klf-digest V2 #480 *************************