From: owner-klf-digest@lists.xmission.com (klf-digest) To: klf-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klf-digest V2 #510 Reply-To: klf-digest Sender: owner-klf-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klf-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes klf-digest Thursday, January 10 2002 Volume 02 : Number 510 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 20:53:27 +0100 (MET) From: scream84@dolfijn.nl (The KLF @Trancentral) Subject: (klf) Scooter - Ramp ?? hello I just downloaded the song and its pretty nice , but when it was @ 2.13= min. hp baxtor ( the singer ) says : The K the L the F, and the Ology= , from 3 am eternal ( live from the s.s.l ) . Can somebody confirm this? ______________________________________________________________ Gratis e-mail en meer: http://www.dolfijn.nl/ ilse weet nu ook alles van muziek! http://ilsemusic.ilse.nl/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 20:06:42 +0100 From: kubi Subject: Re: (klf) Scooter - Ramp ?? Yes, it's taken (not sampled) from 3:am eternal. Originally spoken by R.Lyte. That's not for the first time Scooter copied something without giving any credits. kubi The KLF @Trancentral wrote: > hello > > I just downloaded the song and its pretty nice , but when it was @ 2.13 min. hp baxtor ( the singer ) says : The K the L the F, and the Ology , from 3 am eternal ( live from the s.s.l ) . > > Can somebody confirm this? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 21:17:54 +0100 (MET) From: scream84@dolfijn.nl (The KLF @Trancentral) Subject: (klf) DJ Dominion vs KLF - What Time Is Love (Power Edit).mpg hello Can any1 confirm the existance of that video? ______________________________________________________________ Gratis e-mail en meer: http://www.dolfijn.nl/ ilse weet nu ook alles van muziek! http://ilsemusic.ilse.nl/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 20:38:17 -0000 From: "Nick King" Subject: RE: (klf) Love Trance... Believe it was a one off, and not one of the recent bootleg issues... ...I got a CD copy from whoever was selling copies of it at the time - not bad! So, we probably won't see the rest of them (but we can still live in hope)! l8rs, Nick ;-) > Hello everyone, > > Happy New Year ! Just a quick email, I couldn't quite remember what the > overall consensus was surrounding the Love Trance 12" which cropped up > last year...I had a sneaky feeling that there were more than one of these > 12"s knocking about - based purely on the number of recent bootlegs which > have appeared recently (chill out, 1987, the 'live' album and > Pure Trance 5)... > > does this mean we can eventually expect to see the missing Pure Trance > 12"s surface ? > > I know no-one will have the answer to that question, but if anyone could > just remind me what the score with Love Trance (Pure Trance 6) it would > be much appreciated ! > > Cheerio > > Neil # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 10:36:53 +0100 (MET) From: scream84@dolfijn.nl (The KLF @Trancentral) Subject: (klf) Any news regarding the live cd???? hiya I was wondering if there was some new info around ______________________________________________________________ Gratis e-mail en meer: http://www.dolfijn.nl/ ilse weet nu ook alles van muziek! http://ilsemusic.ilse.nl/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 12:43:24 +0100 (CET) From: Adam Hauner Subject: Re: (klf) DJ Dominion vs KLF - What Time Is Love (Power Edit).mpg On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, The KLF @Trancentral wrote: > Can any1 confirm the existance of that video? Me, video contains just slideshow of photos. - -- Adam Hauner - -=[ AHA ]=[ aha@pinknet.cz ]=[ Koukni na http://www.alenka.cz/ ]=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2002 00:16:15 +1100 From: Chris Subject: Re: (klf) Any news regarding the live cd???? "The KLF @Trancentral" wrote: > > hiya > > I was wondering if there was some new info around YES!!! In breaking news, it's STILL a home-made bootleg sent only to a small number of press outlets! With -and you'll be excited to know that this has *just now* not changed one bit- NO INVOLVEMENT from Drummond or Cauty! Please ask again next week, when the answers will once more remain excitingly the same! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 15:32:29 +0100 (MET) From: scream84@dolfijn.nl (The KLF @Trancentral) Subject: (klf) Anyone here knows a fast ftp which has the tops of the pops video's?? thnx thanks ______________________________________________________________ Gratis e-mail en meer: http://www.dolfijn.nl/ ilse weet nu ook alles van muziek! http://ilsemusic.ilse.nl/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 16:17:28 +0000 From: "Maarten Bouwes" Subject: (klf) Re: Love Trance Has anyone noticed that a second copy of Love Trance is up for sale @Ebay? Yer URL: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll ViewItem&item=1404598943 Maarten _________________________________________________________________ Download MSN Explorer gratis van http://explorer.msn.nl/intl.asp. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 19:07:52 +0100 From: "c-Row" Subject: Re: (klf) anyone know where I can download The Dr.Who video in mp3 The Doctorin' video CD´s format can be played on the Philips CD-I device (which was later followed by the DVD technology). Unfortunately - or not - the CD-I never succeded in hitting the home television market with the impact the DVD did years later. cy@ Thomas > I know this has been asked before, but is this CD-V format obsolete now? > Was it ever anything other than obscure? And does anybody know how come > "Doctorin' The Tardis" (but no other KLF releases) came to be produced > in this format, manufactured in France, distributed in Scotland, on a > format that nobody seems to have heard of, and why this release only > seemed to appear two or three years ago? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 18:41:52 -0000 From: "John Shepherd" Subject: RE: (klf) anyone know where I can download The Dr.Who video in mp3 > I know this has been asked before, but is this CD-V format obsolete now? > Was it ever anything other than obscure? And does anybody know how come CD-V is NOT the same thing as CD video (which is what the phillips CD-i used to play) - essentially, CD-V was a way of recording an analogue video signal onto a CD-sized disk; you remember those huge 12" laser disks that home cinema buffs were into before DVD became popular? ...well, CD-V was basically a shrunk-down version of that. The actual video isn't stored in a "conventional" digital format, and there's no way to play it through a conventional CD-ROM based system (i.e. anything except one of those old arcane laser disk players...) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 20:33:20 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Rockman=20Mike?= Subject: Re: (klf) anyone know where I can download The Dr.Who video in mp3 --- Stuart Bruce wrote: > > > I know this has been asked before, but is this CD-V > format obsolete now? > Was it ever anything other than obscure? And does > anybody know how come > "Doctorin' The Tardis" (but no other KLF releases) > came to be produced > in this format, manufactured in France, distributed > in Scotland, on a > format that nobody seems to have heard of, and why > this release only > seemed to appear two or three years ago? Don't know about the rest of it but I bought my copy in early 90's, so there were copies around earlier.I also spent many fruitless hours trying to find out why my computer wouldn't play it until I found out it was in some obscure format. Mike __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 00:32:39 From: "henrik uddemar" Subject: Re: (klf) anyone know where I can download The Dr.Who video in mp3 format The klf video doctor in the tardis can be downloaded at my home page. uddis.linuxgods.com You need to login with: mastersofstadiumhouse You will also find some other video and "some" music ;-) Happy dl Uddis have now left the building _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2002 21:42:05 From: "Stephane MONTHIEU" Subject: RE: (klf) anyone know where I can download The Dr.Who video in mp3 >CD-V is NOT the same thing as CD video (which is what the phillips CD-i >used >to play) - essentially, CD-V was a way of recording an analogue video >signal >onto a CD-sized disk; you remember those huge 12" laser disks that home >cinema buffs were into before DVD became popular? ...well, CD-V was >basically a shrunk-down version of that. The actual video isn't stored in a >"conventional" digital format, and there's no way to play it through a >conventional CD-ROM based system (i.e. anything except one of those old >arcane laser disk players...) any chance to have an emu for PC (like for old games on Super Nes, etc...) ??? Steph _________________________________________________________________ Discutez en ligne avec vos amis, essayez MSN Messenger : http://messenger.msn.fr # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 08:08:58 +0000 (GMT) From: Stuart Bruce Subject: RE: (klf) anyone know where I can download The Dr.Who video in mp3 On Wed 09 Jan, Stephane MONTHIEU wrote: [re: CD-V of "Doctorin' The Tardis"] > any chance to have an emu for PC (like for old games on Super Nes, > etc...) ??? Presumably not, based on what John said- the data will be stored on a disc in a way that a conventional CD-ROM or DVD drive simply won't read. So it's not a question of interpreting the data, it's a question of getting the data off the disc in the first place. You'd need hardware emulation (which might well not exist), rather than software emulation. If I remember rightly, when I tried the disc in my CD-ROM drive, it would recognise the three audio tracks without too much difficulty, but simply wouldn't acknowledge that there was anything else on the disc. But since I have a fairly good VHS copy, I'm not going to go out and hunt down an old Laserdisc player just for this one disc... Has anyone been thinking of putting together a bootleg KLF video-CD or DVD? Stuart. - -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk The Utah Saints Mailing List http://groups.yahoo.com/group/utahsaints/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 20:24:08 +1100 From: "Brendan" Subject: (klf) OT: CDV hi all, disclaimer: I really have no idea about this stuff. > [re: CD-V of "Doctorin' The Tardis"] > > any chance to have an emu for PC (like for old games > > on Super Nes, etc...) ??? > > Presumably not, based on what John said- the data will be stored on a > disc in a way that a conventional CD-ROM or DVD drive simply won't read. > So it's not a question of interpreting the data, it's a question of > getting the data off the disc in the first place. You'd need hardware > emulation (which might well not exist), rather than software emulation. what if you got the data off the disk, then read it? i use a program called EAC which to quote from the faq... >Q: What is EAC? >A: EAC is "Exact Audio Copy". It will help you to copy > (extract) audio tracks, or even parts of them, to the > harddisk. In newer versions it also includes some > audio CD writing routines and a small audio editor. i've used it to recover some badly scratched cd's. it can take all night, but the end result sounds perfect on my crap stereo so i'm happy. it generally makes wav files though. i havent tried it on a data cd. further ot: i've got moby's "disk" which has a multimedia component. i cant be bothered to dig it out now to read its specs, but i've never ever found a pc that it can play on. i've played it once on a mac, and it worked fine. just like it should. but on a pc, it just works as an audio cd. when its in a portable cd player, it only has the music tracks. there's no extra track[1] which you have to skip. from the sounds of it, it might be similar to the tardis cd. i havent actually tried copying it with eac - i might give that a go this weekend. if anybody's particularly interested, probably best to let me know by email. cheers brendan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 13:17:42 +0000 (GMT) From: Stuart Bruce Subject: Re: (klf) OT: CDV Good luck with trying EAC on the disc, but the way I understand it from John's post, it may well not work- because the "data" on the CD-V is not even digitally stored in a way that a CD-ROM drive could even translate into a computer file. It could be compared to trying to get a normal CD-ROM drive to read any data off a DVD. Moby's "Disk" multimedia component is data suitable for a CD-ROM drive, the problem there being getting the PC to look in the right place, rather than the actual act of getting the drive to read it at all. Hopefully somebody else can expand on this... So does anybody have *any* other CD-V discs of any kind? Were there any other singles put out in this format? Stuart. - -- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk The Utah Saints Mailing List http://groups.yahoo.com/group/utahsaints/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 14:46:25 +0100 From: Anders Hultman Subject: Re: (klf) OT: CDV Stuart Bruce: >Good luck with trying EAC on the disc, but the way I understand it from >John's post, it may well not work- because the "data" on the CD-V is not >even digitally stored in a way that a CD-ROM drive could even translate >into a computer file. It could be compared to trying to get a normal >CD-ROM drive to read any data off a DVD. Or even to get a normal CD-ROM drive to read any data off a vinyl record. anders - ------------------------- http://anders.hultman.nu/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 13:50:01 +0000 From: Craig Earnshaw Subject: Re: (klf) OT: CDV I used to have quite a lot of CDV movies (spent about six months working in Hong Kong about 2 years ago) as the format was really big there. They format wasn't very watchable though - the disks were often two sided, and thus needed to be turned over, and if there was a lot going on in the picture (eg almost any action film you care to name) the image REALLY pixilated - often to the point where it was unwatchable - totally ruined my first viewing of "Face-Off". Just my 2c after coming off the list after the huge arguments that were going on about six months ago.... Stuart Bruce wrote: > >Good luck with trying EAC on the disc, but the way I understand it from >John's post, it may well not work- because the "data" on the CD-V is not >even digitally stored in a way that a CD-ROM drive could even translate >into a computer file. It could be compared to trying to get a normal >CD-ROM drive to read any data off a DVD. > >Moby's "Disk" multimedia component is data suitable for a CD-ROM drive, >the problem there being getting the PC to look in the right place, >rather than the actual act of getting the drive to read it at all. >Hopefully somebody else can expand on this... > >So does anybody have *any* other CD-V discs of any kind? Were there any >other singles put out in this format? > >Stuart. > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 10:34:07 -0800 From: Chris Johnson Subject: Re: (klf) OT: CDV Stuart Bruce wrote: > > Good luck with trying EAC on the disc, but the way I understand it from > John's post, it may well not work- because the "data" on the CD-V is not > even digitally stored in a way that a CD-ROM drive could even translate > into a computer file. It could be compared to trying to get a normal > CD-ROM drive to read any data off a DVD. EAC won't work with the video portion, although it is a wonderful tool for all things CD-audio. > So does anybody have *any* other CD-V discs of any kind? Were there any > other singles put out in this format? Yep. There were a number of them; I remember seeing the Timelords one, as well as a couple for the Cure, Siouxsie and the Banshees, etc. Also, the David Bowie Sound and Vision boxed set had a "bonus" disc that included the video for Ashes To Ashes. That one is the only one I actually own. Of course, you also have the usual issues between PAL and NTSC...AFAIR, the singles I saw were fairly evenly split between UK and US releases. These CDs are playable in any laser disc player (assuming it is capable of playing 5" discs, and most of them were), but you simply can't play the video portion in anything else. If it matters, it should be reasonably cheap to pick up an old laser disc player second hand... BTW, discussion should probably migrate to the mailman version of this list; Lazlo will probably be shutting down the lists.xmission.com one at some point... Chris np: v/a - I (heart) Serge: Electronica Gainsbourg # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 19:47:56 -0000 From: "Phil Blake" Subject: RE: (klf) OT: CDV > -----Original Message----- > From: Stuart Bruce > Sent: 10 January 2002 13:18 > To: KLF mailing list > Subject: Re: (klf) OT: CDV > So does anybody have *any* other CD-V discs of any kind? Were there any > other singles put out in this format? Mark Weston has a few CDV disks and the original player. All his disks (as far as I know) will play apart from the Doctorin The Tardis one. I really do wonder whether anyone has ever got one of these to play? Hopefully Mark can elaborate a little. Phil. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 21:59:56 +0100 (MET) From: scream84@dolfijn.nl (The KLF @Trancentral) Subject: (klf) Does any of you cool klf fans know... ......where I can download the top of the pops video's? I cant seem to find them :*( Many thanks! ______________________________________________________________ Gratis e-mail en meer: http://www.dolfijn.nl/ ilse weet nu ook alles van muziek! http://ilsemusic.ilse.nl/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info klf" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email klf@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # KLF discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?klf ------------------------------ End of klf-digest V2 #510 *************************