From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V1 #2 Reply-To: klr650 Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Friday, January 29 1999 Volume 01 : Number 002 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 03:46:13 EST From: DNKendell@aol.com Subject: (klr650) Re: klr650-digest V1 #1 Please, everyone, keep sending attatchments to the list. I really dont have time to read the entire digest, and that helps me save time. Ranaldo (wondering if someone posted an idea for fixing the less than perfect front brake) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 11:23:31 -0500 From: Cameron Cole Subject: RE: (klr650) I don't think so (it might have one on the front or rear that I haven't noticed). However it wouldn't be difficult to attach one if there isn't one. I love mine since I don't have to worry about leaving it attached in parking lots. - -----Original Message----- From: alyef@iname.com [mailto:alyef@iname.com] Sent: Thursday, January 28, 1999 12:11 AM To: Cameron Cole Cc: klr Subject: Re: (klr650) Does the tail trunk have a handle to carry it with when it is loaded? - ---------- > The tail trunk comes off in less than a minute with a little practice. I > think the first time it took two minutes. Not as good as the ten second > tank bag, but good enough for me. > > FYI, the tail trunk will hold four twelve pack coke cartons. The guys at > the convenience store couldn't believe it (neither could I until I kept > stuffing the in there). > Alex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 10:27:33 -0700 (MST) From: Tony Jones Subject: (klr650) Re: Very NKLR (GS500E) There is a dedicated GS twins mailing list (mostly dominated by disucssion of the GS500. Lots of racers, so fairly informed crowd, modifications wise). See: http://www.eurospares.com/maillist.htm As for the suspension, it isn't the greatest, but based on my experience (I bought a 95 GS500 for my wife to learn on last year) it will be a while before she can even deduce that the suspension is bottoming out. Tony ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 12:37:03 -0500 From: "Brian Schoonveld" Subject: (klr650) Tapered steering head bearings... - ------>Tapered steering head bearings.. @ - ------>http://www.pro-flo.com/steering_stem.html#kawasaki What is proposed that would make these bearings a positive KLR add on? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 99 12:11:48 CST From: "John W. Houchins --UNMCVM(JWHOUCHI)" Subject: (klr650) Kawa tank bag From: John W. Houchins --UNMCVM(JWHOUCHI) Cameron, Are you guys talking about the kawasaki tank bag? Mine does have a handle on the rear. I like mine ok, its secure, but I seem to always fumble with the buckles that go under the rack. My dealer sold me a left over rain cover from another bag, so its reasonably dry. John who should be freezin' in Omaha, but rode to the shop last week. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:50:15 -0500 From: PAT_HENSLEY@HP-USA-om32.om.hp.com Subject: (klr650) Brake Master Cylinder Cover - --openmail-part-17f6d9dc-00000001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="BDY.TXT" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="BDY.TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I noticed in Juan Villarreal's pics that he installed the brake cover on his rear master cylinder (BTW- Nice pics, Juan). Anyway, since I was the 'founder' of this cover gerry rig I was wondering how many have installed it. You can see the cover at: http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page41.html Pat Austin, Texas 97 KLR, 11K miles - --openmail-part-17f6d9dc-00000001-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:15:50 -0700 From: "Fred Hink" Subject: Re: (klr650) Brake Master Cylinder Cover - -----Original Message----- From: PAT_HENSLEY@HP-USA-om32.om.hp.com To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Date: Thursday, January 28, 1999 4:57 AM Subject: (klr650) Brake Master Cylinder Cover Hi Pat, I would say that there are at least about a dozen that I know of that have used the guard that you don't have to bend to fit. I have more in stock. Fred Hink ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Arrowhead Motorsports http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/index.html *NEW* 435-259-7356 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:40:47 -0700 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: Re: (klr650) Brake Master Cylinder Cover >I would say that there are at least about a dozen that I know of that have >used the guard that you don't have to bend to fit. I have more in stock. > >Fred Hink Pat? Are you still with us? I thought you were selling your bike...yep, I bought one from Fred and wondered why I didn't have to bend it. Did I miss something? Fred, did you build on Pat's suggestion and find a model that we don't have to bend...at any rate good on you both... IMO, this ought to be a must. Fred can tell you the little plastic thing going into the MC breaks as mine did on the first day in the first hour of Moab last year. I was just about done except for sweet Mary... Kurt A12 OB ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 15:09:14 -0000 From: "Eric Jasniewicz" Subject: (klr650) KLR HELP! - where can I get rubber-dip for pliers Somewhere, sometime ago, I heard from someone about some type of rubber solution you could dip things in to get them rubber-coated. I thought it was Sears, but my local one didn't know what I was talking about. The example I remember was comparing the results to the rubber coating commonly found on pliers. TIA Eric J ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 15:16:09 -0700 From: "Fred Hink" Subject: (klr650) Re: (NKLR) KLR HELP! - where can I get rubber-dip for pliers - -----Original Message----- From: Eric Jasniewicz To: KLR650 List Date: Thursday, January 28, 1999 7:50 AM Subject: (klr650) KLR HELP! - where can I get rubber-dip for pliers >Somewhere, sometime ago, I heard from someone about some type of rubber >solution you could dip things in to get them rubber-coated. I thought it >was Sears, but my local one didn't know what I was talking about. > >The example I remember was comparing the results to the rubber coating >commonly found on pliers. > >TIA > >Eric J > > > Eric, I have seen this "dip" in J C Whitney catalogs... http://www.jcwhitneyusa.com/ I have never tried this stuff, but if you do let me know how it works. Fred Hink ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Arrowhead Motorsports http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/index.html *NEW* 435-259-7356 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 15:25:54 -0700 From: "Fred Hink" Subject: Re: (klr650) Brake Master Cylinder Cover - -----Original Message----- From: Kurt Simpson To: Fred Hink ; PAT_HENSLEY@HP-USA-om32.om.hp.com ; klr650@lists.xmission.com Date: Thursday, January 28, 1999 6:56 AM Subject: Re: (klr650) Brake Master Cylinder Cover >Fred, did you build on Pat's suggestion and find a model that we >don't have to bend...at any rate good on you both... I don't remember the "time line" exactly but I was working with someone from Kansas and California (I think) about the same time as Pat was. I think Pat had his web page done about the time I figured out that there was a guard that didn't need to be bent. >IMO, this ought to be a must. Fred can tell you the little plastic thing >going into the MC breaks as mine did on the first day in the first hour of >Moab last year. I was just about done except for sweet Mary... That was a FREAK accident that could have happened to anyone at anytime. Better to have happen in the parking lot than 100 miles out in the middle of nowhere. Now that plastic elbow will probably never break off anyone elses bike, but if it does I know someone that has an extra one. ;-) Fred > >Kurt A12 OB > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 18:15:47 EST From: NILSTIAR@aol.com Subject: (klr650) NKLR Why my D.S. needs room for bumber stickers. >Bumper stickers reportedly seen on cars around the DC area: >HONK! If you had sex with the President >Clinton: We forgive you...Now Resign! >Al Gore: One heartthrob from the Presidency >Adultery is not a family value >Does character matter YET? >One More Whore And We Get Gore >Bill Clinton: Commander in Heat >My President Fooled Around with Your Honor Student >Jail to the Chief >Today kids no longer play doctor, they play President >The Clinton Creed: Take Credit Not Responsibility >If his private life doesn't matter, let him date your daughter. > >Save the President: Legalize Perjury >Clinton: Our Nation's Fondling Father Wish the Katoom had more room for stickers, Steve 98 R/XCe 620 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 21:16:48 EST From: AGSholar@aol.com Subject: (klr650) Rear brakes are dragging My rear brakes have just started to occasionally not release all the way causing the caliper and disk to heat up substantially. I can free the pads up by jostling the caliper and then I will ride home without using the rear brakes. Anyone have any experience with this? It sounds like the problem is in the caliper, but is it possible the piston/spring in the rear master cylinder is hanging up? I'm looking for any advice before I tear the brakes apart this weekend. Thanks in advance. Greg, A2 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 21:46:28 EST From: K650dsn@aol.com Subject: (klr650) dragging brakes In a message dated 1/28/99 7:29:30 PM Mountain Standard Time, AGSholar@aol.com writes: << Anyone have any experience with this? It sounds like the problem is in the caliper, but is it possible the piston/spring in the rear master cylinder is hanging up? I'm looking for any advice before I tear the brakes apart this weekend. Thanks in advance. >> I had this happening on my XV920. Can be two things, a pad that is sticking in the caliper or a dragging piston. The pad is the easiest to check. Remove the pads from the caliper and clean the carrier well. Clean the pad with brake cleaner and put a light coat of high temp brake grease on the guide tabs of the pads, then put them back in. If it still happens, you need to rebuild your caliper. Gino ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 21:55:14 EST From: FTabor231@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) Rear brakes are dragging There is no spring in a hydraulic caliper cylinder. The piston has a square profile seal in a groove and when you exert pressure with the pedal pressing fluid against the piston, the seal tries to resist the motion and forces the piston back into the caliper removing the force on the pads against the rotor. You may have moisture in the fluid or the caliper got really dirty and crud got into the piston which could jam it up. The first thing I would do though, is bleed the brakes and get new juice in the system. Do the easy things first. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 20:07:04 From: guy cheney Subject: (klr650) Low mount front fender Hey All, I searched all over the net and found a lot of pictures of nekked ladies but couldn't find one of a KLR with a low mount front fender. If you know where one exists, please let me know the URL. Also, I remember from posts of about a month ago that the main advantage of this part was a cooler runnning engine. Any other advantages or disadvantages? Thanks, Happy Friday (Happy Saturday to you, Mr. T!) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 22:41:52 EST From: K650dsn@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) Low mount front fender In a message dated 1/28/99 8:14:32 PM Mountain Standard Time, guycheney@mindspring.com writes: << I searched all over the net and found a lot of pictures of nekked ladies but couldn't find one of a KLR with a low mount front fender. If you know where one exists, please let me know the URL. >> Here, I have a picture. It's only 150mb. I'll send it to the list.... ;-) Gino ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 22:32:47 EST From: FTabor231@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) Low mount front fender Go to your Kawasaki dealer and order the front fender for the Tengai or find a fork brace that mounts to the bottom of the forks then you can mount any old aftermarket fender that looks good. Frank in Omaha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 22:29:14 -0800 From: "e. rhoads" Subject: (klr650) NKLR rubber-dip for pliers Subject: (klr650) KLR HELP! - where can I get rubber-dip for pliers >The example I remember was comparing the results to the rubber coating >commonly found on pliers. >Eric J >========================== The stuff you probably want is called Plasti Dip. It's available in slightly tall slender cans for dipping, and there's a spray-can version. There's several colors and 'clear'. I'd think many auto parts places would carry it, or a hardware store maybe. I've used it occasionally since I was a kid. It's reasonable stuff to work with, it's paintable, (you can paint it on) and you can try experimenting with it for different jobs....see how it works. It's not cheap but not too awful bad. One possible problem would be if the manufacturer has had to reduce volatiles or otherwise fool around with the formulation to comply with emissions standards. I haven't bought any for a few years so I'm hoping it's still a pretty good product. eric ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 21:13:07 -0700 From: "Fred Hink" Subject: Re: (klr650) Low mount front fender - -----Original Message----- From: guy cheney To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Date: Thursday, January 28, 1999 1:18 PM Subject: (klr650) Low mount front fender >Hey All, > >I searched all over the net and found a lot of pictures of nekked ladies >but couldn't find one of a KLR with a low mount front fender. If you know >where one exists, please let me know the URL. Also, I remember from posts >of about a month ago that the main advantage of this part was a cooler >runnning engine. Any other advantages or disadvantages? > >Thanks, > >Happy Friday (Happy Saturday to you, Mr. T!) > > > Funny you should ask about low front fenders. I ordered a bunch in today and they will be here on Monday. I have a scanned photo of the low fender itself, you will have to add the picture of your bike. Kurt how does yours look? Fred Hink ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Arrowhead Motorsports http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/index.html *NEW* 435-259-7356 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 21:17:35 -0700 From: "Bruce Hedquist" Subject: Re: (klr650) Low mount front fender >I searched all over the net and found a lot of pictures of nekked ladies >but couldn't find one of a KLR with a low mount front fender. If you know >where one exists, please let me know the URL. Also, I remember from posts >of about a month ago that the main advantage of this part was a cooler >runnning engine. Any other advantages or disadvantages? Guy: check with Fred Hink, he has one for around $30. I just installed a white one on my '92. Since it is for a sportbike it took some minor fabrication (very easy) so it would sit tall enough to clear the 21" wheel. So what do I think? -don't know about the engine cooling, but it makes sense -I like the look, and will probably be better on wet roads -One significant difference: *in windy conditions, and when behind 18 wheelers, the vague, hunting feeling is gone. All in all, very nice. Would do it again. Call Fred or check out us site, I believe it was from UFO. Acerbis no longer has them readily available. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 21:49:35 -0700 From: "Fred Hink" Subject: Re: (klr650) Low mount front fender - -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Hedquist To: guy cheney ; klr650@lists.xmission.com Date: Thursday, January 28, 1999 2:49 PM Subject: Re: (klr650) Low mount front fender >Guy: check with Fred Hink, he has one for around $30. I just installed a >white one on my '92. Since it is for a sportbike it took some minor >fabrication (very easy) so it would sit tall enough to clear the 21" wheel. Actually they are called a Superbike fender and they are made for dual sport bikes with a 21" tire. I have one white one in stock, will have four more white ones and one black one in on Monday. Fred ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 01:22:33 EST From: WingRJ@aol.com Subject: (klr650) Rubber Coating >Somewhere, sometime ago, I heard from someone about some type of rubber >solution you could dip things in to get them rubber-coated. I thought it >was Sears, but my local one didn't know what I was talking about. I could use that information also. I was considering coating just the end of some of my sockets, so i can tell at a clance which is the 10mm or the 12mm. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 01:37:25 EST From: WingRJ@aol.com Subject: (klr650) Fuse Box This morning as the bike is warming up for the ride in to work, I notice the headlight flickering from high to low. As I reach up to the switch to set it to low, I notice the switch is stuck in the middle. As I touch it, the light goes out. So is my running lights, tail light, and the signals don't work, **** fuse!!! Has anyone figured an easyer way to access the fuses without having to dissemble half the bike? I was wondering if I were to cut slots in the plastic brackets on the back of the seat. I use to have a dirt bike that did this. The seat would slide foware/backward/upwards to be removed. Would that hold up under tough riding conditions? Haven't had too many fuses burn, but its a pain when they go. Thanks ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 02:35:02 +1000 From: Ted Palmer Subject: (klr650) KLR600 mod theories (rather long, get coffee) Yo listers, Progress in the B1 Bomber development front has moved up a minor notch. I've bought a 600 muffler from a wrecker which I'll at least partly dissect to see what's inside and what can be modified for more flow. Having had a bit of a look down each end, it doesn't look very complicated inside. The first chamber, the outward tapering section from the engine pipe adapter, looks like it is actually 2 chambers. The engine pipe adapter appears to continue into the tapered section, and has perforations at the end of the internal pipe. The muffler outlet tube looks like it continues right into the end of the cylindrical (rear) section. The outlet tube is perforated near the outlet end. The perforations only appear to extend about 1/3 of the way down the length of the outlet tube. Whether the tapered section and cylindrical section share a common internal space or a separated by a divider with a tuned length pipe carrying gas between each is still to be seen. If I was really well funded I'd have the thing X-rayed first... Those familiar with the 600 muffler will know that the cylindrical section is actually made up of two sections: the main body and a smaller diameter coaxial tube about 3" long at the end the holds the outlet tube (see the cover of the KLR600A-1 base manual to see what I mean). This is different to the 650 series muffler, where the main body of the muffler (after the tapered chamber) is mostly one diameter. The tapered section of the 650 muffler appears bigger to me as well, but I haven't measured it. While my wrecker had a 650 muffler available from an unknown model, I wanted to stick with a 600 muffler as I'm assured of a correct fit and stock look. Maybe I'll play with a 650 muffler later, as the extra internal volume might be beneficial. Considering that the aussie 600s had near enough the same rated power as the later (and quieter) 650 Tengais, the 600 muffler can't be flowing _too_ badly. Once I cut the rear (smaller diameter) section off the test 600 muffler, I might be able to modify it to be able to remove and refit the end section. A band of steel on the inside of the rear section could be welded on, which closely fits into the internal diameter of the main cylindrical section. This may then be retained by pop rivets or screws or something through the main muffler body. With a bit of imagination, the same sort of mod could be done on a 650 factory muffer. Once the outlet body is readily able to removed and refitted, the real work of experimenting with outlet core tube size and perforation can begin. On I go to the airbox. I've been running a stock airbox with a modified inlet snorkel. To modify the snorkel, I cut off the part that hangs inside the airbox, but retained the upper (above airbox) section, as this may have been useful to straighten the flow into the airbox. I can't say I noticed much performance difference by the seat of the pants after I cut the snorkel. The snorkel may also be useful to provide a moderately smooth radius for the intake air, as the air turns almost 180deg to get to the filter. I've now removed the snorkel, and to smooth airflow around the sharp edge of the airbox inlet, I've put a slit down some 4mm bore vacuum hose and lined the edges of the opening with that, the theory being that the snorkel was taking up useful volume in the underseat area. The slight reduction in the dimensions of the opening caused by the hose edging should be more than made up for by the smoothing effect of the hose radius. No doubt the stock snorkel is designed to resist water ingestion (the snorkel intake sits above the top surface of the airbox,any water that gets under the seat is less likely to simply slosh into the snorkel intake), and any water that get down the snorkel is baffled and drained at the back of the airbox. However, the price of this water resistance is some restriction in airflow. As my bike hasn't been offroad for about 12 years, such water resistance is not necessary. Of course, the noise level from the airbox has increased, but this is mainly noticable after about 1/3 to 1/2 thorttle travel, which I don't need often. One subjective test of performance is clutch slip on my bike. With the snorkel fitted, I haven't noticed any slip under full throttle acceleration. With the snorkel out and the smoothed edging on, there is a bit of slip under the same conditions now. The last time I noticed clutch slip, I was running hard with the muffler removed (and excellent performance mod on its own, but not very EPA or dbA sympathetic!). The next mod to the airbox might entail cutting the front edge of the airbox opening further forward maybe 10mm, combined with some larger diameter slit hose on the front edge, as the front edge is where the air does it's tightest turn and the bigger the radius the air has to traverse the better the flow. Once that is sorted, I may try to find a way to get more air to under the seat. At 7000rpm, my 564cc KLR will want 32.9 litres of air per second if I assume 100% efficiency in the intake system. Assuming 85% efficiency, that's still just under 28 litres of air (at atmospheric pressure) per second. For a 650 these numbers are about 38 litres and 32 litres respectively. That's a fair bit of air per second either way. On my 600, the seat plants itself on the square section ally tubing of the rear subframe. The airbox is a close fit to the subframe and hangs from tabs on the subframe. How does air get under the seat? Good question! It does, somehow. To get more air under there, I could lower the airbox in the subframe a bit with a few spacing washers, or I could raise the seat a bit by packing some firm material between the risers on the seat and the subframe rails, or even both. Just a dyno run with and without seat should give a good indication of whether I'm on the right track. When it comes time to compare my mufflers on a dyno, I'll make sure to test the airbox intake mods as well. All this has been darn good theory, but until the wheel turns the dyno, that's all it is. And I haven't even considered any mixture correction yet. Mister_T ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 23:44:38 +1000 From: Ted Palmer Subject: Re: (klr650) Low mount front fender guy cheney wrote: [low front mudguard] > runnning engine. Any other advantages or disadvantages? Reduced drag and increased stability at speed. When I did ride days on the 600, I'd remove the stock high guard entirely, as well as the mirrors. I'd have a Tengai front guard by now if I could find one and have a way of fitting it (Tengai forks had different mounting tabs on the forks). Mister_T ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 00:01:54 +1000 From: Ted Palmer Subject: Re: (klr650) Re: klr650-digest V1 #1 DNKendell@aol.com wrote: [...] > Ranaldo (wondering if someone posted an idea for fixing the less than perfect > front brake) Now that you mention it, I've been looking around the wreckers over here for a Tengai front caliper and maybe rotor. Having seen a Tengai in town the other day, it's obvious there is a lot more pad area on the twin piston caliper. The rotor was about 8mm bigger diameter, and thicker too (more heatsink mass). Unfortunately, dismantled Tengais seem to be rarer than 600s. Even if the Tengai caliper to fork mounting is different, it shouldn't be too hard to get an adapter plate machined up. Mister_T ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 07:09:37 -0600 From: "Polston, Doug" Subject: RE: (klr650) Low mount front fender > [low front mudguard] > > runnning engine. Any other advantages or disadvantages? > > Reduced drag and increased stability at speed. > When I did ride days on the 600, I'd remove the stock high guard How much trouble in the low fender when things get muddy? Should you stay completely away from the mud when you have low fender on? Doug ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 10:19:52 -0500 From: mjv2@psu.edu (Mark) Subject: RE: (klr650) Low mount front fender >How much trouble in the low fender when things get muddy? Should you >stay completely away from the mud when you have low fender on? > >Doug I ride my Tengai in severe conditions at times. Although the low fender is attractive, it really gets full of crap, so much that the force of the wheel adding more crap causes the rivets in the fender mounting bracket to loosen up. The result is a fender that rocks back and forth when you hit bumps and the knobs on the tire (Kenda 50/50 tire) start to chew up the fender. I Raised the fender 1/2 " by drilling new holes in the mounting bracket and fastening the fender to the mounting bracket with machine screws & lockwashers...BIG improvement. Mark, B2 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 10:25:04 EST From: GVBettes@aol.com Subject: (klr650) NKLR GPS info Here is a link I found that may be of interest to those of you using GPS. Jenny's GPS Links Homepage Gary A10 Fresno ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 08:33:42 -0700 From: "Fred Hink" Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR GPS info Here is a link to a friend of mine about using a GPS. Be sure and check out the rest of his site too. ..... http://www.vlj.com/gps.shtml Fred Hink ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Arrowhead Motorsports http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/index.html *NEW* 435-259-7356 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ - -----Original Message----- From: GVBettes@aol.com To: KLR650@lists.xmission.com Date: Friday, January 29, 1999 1:31 AM Subject: (klr650) NKLR GPS info >Here is a link I found that may be of interest to those of you using GPS. > >Jenny's GPS Links Homepage > >Gary >A10 >Fresno > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 10:22:33 -0600 From: "Polston, Doug" Subject: (klr650) old and new I know this question has been asked several times but now I might be putting money down. I looking at a 1987 KLR650 with 2600 miles, excellent condition, progressive rear shock. $2000 As I understand it, their is no major differences between the 1987 and say a 92-94 models (within my price range) besides cosmetics. Am I right? Doug ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jan 99 10:54:10 CST From: "John W. Houchins --UNMCVM(JWHOUCHI)" Subject: (klr650) NKLR new e-MAIL From: John W. Houchins --UNMCVM(JWHOUCHI) Dear List and friends, I have e-mail at work and we are changing systems. My new address is jhouchins@nhsnet.com. We also have a new restrictive policy about personal use of e-mail so I am going to unsubscribe from the list for a while, I may be back on at work or at home when I purchase a computer. I haven't posted a lot, mostly a lurker, so most of you don't know me. I am planning a trip to Mexico in March with our webmaster Bill on the Colonial Pancho Villa tour. And will be in Moab on May 31 or June 1 for the Get Together. Hope to see you all on the road sometime, somewhere!! John Houchins who will return 4724 Davenport St #10 Omaha NE 68132 402.551.5793 Oh, I meant the tailbag has a handle not the tankbag. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 10:06:09 -0700 From: "Fred Hink" Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR new e-MAIL - -----Original Message----- From: John W. Houchins --UNMCVM(JWHOUCHI) To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Date: Friday, January 29, 1999 3:05 AM Subject: (klr650) NKLR new e-MAIL >From: John W. Houchins --UNMCVM(JWHOUCHI) > >Dear List and friends, > >I have e-mail at work and we are changing systems. My new address is >jhouchins@nhsnet.com. We also have a new restrictive policy about >personal use of e-mail so I am going to unsubscribe from the list for a >while, I may be back on at work or at home when I purchase a >computer. > >I haven't posted a lot, mostly a lurker, so most of you don't know me. I >am planning a trip to Mexico in March with our webmaster Bill on the >Colonial Pancho Villa tour. And will be in Moab on May 31 or June 1 for >the Get Together. Hope to see you all on the road sometime, somewhere!! > >John Houchins who will return >4724 Davenport St #10 >Omaha NE 68132 > >402.551.5793 > > >Oh, I meant the tailbag has a handle not the tankbag. > > > I thought you'd catch that someday. Sorry to see you leave us. Keep my web site bookmarked and keep in touch on my message board. Also the message board on the Moab Get-Together page. See you when you get to Moab. Fred Hink ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Arrowhead Motorsports http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/index.html *NEW* 435-259-7356 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 12:40:23 -0500 From: "Patrice Robinet" Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR Scanners for Slides This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0359_01BE4B84.8A280F40 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_035A_01BE4B84.8A280F40" - ------=_NextPart_001_035A_01BE4B84.8A280F40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have finally decided to do something with all them slides I took on my = year and a half journey to Central and South America on my old KLR but I = need held/advice on the proper hardware/software to do this. Any ideas? I currently have a UMAX Astra 1200s with a transparency adapter but to = date all attempts at scanning slides have been disastrous! Some of these slides are really awesome and I would love to share them! Patrice Robinet, Frenchman on two wheels. 1998 KLR 650 1980 CB750F - ------=_NextPart_001_035A_01BE4B84.8A280F40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have finally decided to do = something with all=20 them slides I took on my year and a half journey to Central and South = America on=20 my old KLR but I need held/advice on the proper hardware/software to do=20 this.  Any ideas?
I currently = have a UMAX=20 Astra 1200s with a transparency adapter but to date all attempts at = scanning=20 slides have been disastrous!
Some of these slides are really awesome and I would = love to=20 share them!
 
Patrice Robinet, Frenchman on two=20 wheels.
1998 KLR 650
1980 CB750F 
 
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Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 11:36:09 -0700 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR - -----Original Message----- From: Ted Palmer To: klr650 Date: Friday, January 29, 1999 5:45 AM Subject: (klr650) KLR600 mod theories (rather long, get coffee) >Yo listers, >Progress in the B1 Bomber development front has moved up a minor >notch. oh boy...here we go again...another Dr. Moreau is let loose....(g) Kurt (Zombie Boy) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 02:19:21 +1000 From: Ted Palmer Subject: Re: (klr650) Tapered steering head bearings... Kurt Simpson wrote: > Tapered steering head bearings.. > > http://www.pro-flo.com/steering_stem.html#kawasaki Those SSB-129s sure get around. Mister_T ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 05:36:38 +1000 From: Ted Palmer Subject: Re: (klr650) Tapered steering head bearings... Brian Schoonveld wrote: > ------>Tapered steering head bearings.. > @ > ------>http://www.pro-flo.com/steering_stem.html#kawasaki > > What is proposed that would make these bearings a positive KLR add on? They might be cheaper than the genuine supplied tapered bearings? Correctly adjusted tapered bearings tend to more precisely locate the steering assembly than ball bearings. On something as flexy as the KLRs on road, every bit helps. Dunno about 650s, but the 600s apparently had tapered from the factory, if you believe the base manual. Mister_T ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 05:41:41 +1000 From: Ted Palmer Subject: Re: (klr650) Low mount front fender Polston, Doug wrote: [...] > How much trouble in the low fender when things get muddy? Should you > stay completely away from the mud when you have low fender on? The mud can build up for sure, especially if it is of the sticky icky variety. At best, the mud will just add unsprung mass and be harder to clean out. At worst, the wheel could just seize up in the guard. Mister_T ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 04:40:21 +1000 From: Ted Palmer Subject: Re: (klr650) 70 hp from KLR650?... Kurt Simpson wrote: > Here is a guy who thinks the KLR is good for 70 HP with a White Bros kit.... We wish. Even if it did poke that hard, I think I would be rather peaky and noisy. I had a quick look into: http://www.whitebros.com/Pages/HOME.HTM but couldn't find this kit. [...] > Re: suitable engine for project- any of the 650cc, 4 valve singles > will make the HP you want. Honda claims 42 HP for the XR650L, Suzuki > 45HP for the DR650. The KLR650 engine is capable of some 70 claimed HP > with a White Bros. engine kit. I'll assume the engine kit also contains extra modified bits, like camshafts. A lighter piston and rod would be nice to raise the redline and get more air mass flow through the engine. Apart from the breathing, my KLR is limited (like singles generally) by the max engine speed. Ducati did rectify this somewhat on their Supermono racer, but their solution was a lot more complex and space consuming than we'd put up with on a KLR. > All of these engines are probably a pipe > and jet kit away from 50 HP. Well yeah, singles are not easy things to silence without power losses, and that means silencing both the exhaust and the intake. > Even some of the 500cc engines from older > bikes are easily capable of 45-50 HP. Yeah, but they didn't have an EPA sword hanging over their heads as closely. I've been reading a very good book lately: "Tuning for Speed" by Phil Irving. This book has been consistently reprinted (and sometimes updated a bit) since 1948. It might sound irrelevent, the book has hints on such bikes as A.J.S., Vincent, Matchless and the like (what we'd call vintage these days) but the KLR is still a conceptual decendant of the old bikes. Sure we have twin cams and water cooling, but we also still have a roller bottom end, single spark plug, single cylinder etc. It's a diverting primer for anyone considering modifying the KLR beyond hacking the airbox and muffler. The basics are all there. > Kawasaki EX500 twins have a claimed 60 HP stock. And twin carbs, maybe twin exhausts, possibly greater total valve area, higher redline, hopefully a better airbox design etc. > My personal bike is a 500cc Rotax powered MuZ that makes a claimed 34 HP. I wonder if this is the five valve head. We know how facist about noise some euro countries are. As an example, the aussie KLR600B1 claimed 42PS. Swiss and West German variants claimed 27PS. They must have been constipated pretty severely to lose that much power. > Another 5-10 HP (and a bigger seat) and it'd be the perfect bike. Shouldn't be hard to find some go faster bits from Europe, the Rotax is fairly common over there. 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