From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V1 #38 Reply-To: klr650 Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Saturday, March 28 1998 Volume 01 : Number 038 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 18:22:39 EST From: Rcklr Subject: Re: (klr650) RFI: KLR Lowering Kit I have the "dog-bones" from Quality Engine R&D. Steve Kesselung makes these, and they are a work of art. I don't have Steve's latest number, but I just know that Gino will have it and post it for you. My wife is 5'4" and she can ride the KLR comfortably now that it's lowered (with a stock (unaltered) Corbin seat) along with moving the forks up in the triple clamps 2". I really like it as well, even though I'm 6' tall as the bike handles much better on the road. My wife looked at the BMW as well, and to lower one it costs an additional $500, on top of the list price. If you want to talk more about this, please feel free to contact me directly. Have fun!! MN Ron ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 19:41:40 EST From: nocoffee@juno.com (Norman D Coffenberry) Subject: Re: (klr650) Corbin Bites!!!!! Update. >> >I looked at all other options, didn't have much of a choice. A >Russell >> >would be my first choice, but would put me way too high (I'm 5' 9" >> tall), >> >plus they are more than ugly,IMHO. Hmmmm.... I'm also 5' 9" and my Russell works fine. How often do you need to put your feet on the ground if you own a KLR? I mostly keep moving... and who can see the seat if you are sitting on it and when you're not, who the hell cares what anyone thinks, IMHO? The service was GREAT, the comfort, SUPERB! _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 20:04:49 -0500 From: Crystal & Fred Olsen Subject: Re: (klr650) Throttle lock... Gino Where do I get an NEP-CC3? Kawa part? FJO K650dsn wrote: > > In a message dated 98-03-24 11:55:21 EST, you write: > > << Gino, did you post the instructions on installing the > throttle lock? Or, are they in a certain issue of DSN? If, > it isn't in DSN could you take a moment and explain the how > to? >> > > I didn't have room in the latest issue. But here is a brief explanation. Get > a NEP CC3 throttle lock -for dual cable yamaha. Ultimately, you will be > placing the throttle lock between the hand grip and the throttle housing, make > sure there is plenty of room. You will want to secure the tab on the bottom > of the throttle lock to the throttle housing. I did this by drilling and > tapping a small hole in the bottom of the throttle housing. I then drilled a > hole in the tab on the throttle lock. I inserted a spacer between the tab and > the housing to accomodate the gap, and then screwed the throttle lock to the > throttle housing tapped hole I made earlier. That's it. There are probably > other different ways to do it, but that's how I did mine. > > Gino ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 20:08:36 -0500 From: PAT_HENSLEY@HP-USA-om32.om.hp.com Subject: (klr650) Re: Wire under Headlight Bob wrote:>>>>> OK folks, what are the unused two wires behind the right side of the headlight for on my '98 KLR? One wire is brown/white stripe, one is black/yellow stripe. Both end in an unused straight-in connector and are just hanging out of the harness. Everything on the bike seems to work. <<<<< Bob: Those wires are "hot" if the key is in a position that turns the headlight on. It appears to me (from the KAW shop manual) that they are for the auxiliary headlight that is on the European models. I use the wires as a power source for my GPS receiver. However, this does make me wonder if I can get the auxiliary headlight for my US KLR. Does anyone have a photo of the aux headlight? Anyone installed it? Pat 97klr650 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 20:16:24 -0500 From: PAT_HENSLEY@HP-USA-om32.om.hp.com Subject: (klr650) Re: Helmets Brian Vance wrote: > allow for more freedom for the senses. > I would be interested in hearing comments regarding preferences for > helmet styles and any good makers of cap style helmets. I use a Simpson Super Bandit and really like it. I have the black model with a dark shield and have been told I look like Darth Vadar!? My only complaint is the visibility towards the ground right under you is limited, but I have gotten used to it. I would have gotten the 3-Sport (mentioned earlier), but it only came in goofy color and (more importantly) was not SNELL approved. I know several people that really like the 3-Sport. Pat - a good helmet saved my life. I still have the heavily damaged thing to remind me that it allowed me to walk away with *no* injury. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 20:25:08 -0500 From: Crystal & Fred Olsen Subject: Re: (klr650) junk AMEN, Welcome to the world of American ingenuity and Hot Rods! Where pursuit of perfection is a hobby and nothing is as good as it could be with another $100 and an hour's work. Where personality is considered human and transferable upon machines. My favorite is a motor ticking over quietly is perfect tune and harmonious balance. Say Hallelujah!! FJO Cameron Scott Cole wrote: > > Out of the crate the KLR is a good machine and for most it performs better > than they need. For a few of us, however, we would like something more. > We seek a perfect harmony of man and machine that can never exist, but we > strive for it in hopes of finding a common ground with some happiness to > boot. > > It is good to see one of our brothers so humble to accept this remarkable > machines at face value. As for me, I prefer to remove some of the > compromises made by parties both selling and buying. > > Cameron, 395 miles. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Patrick Brand [SMTP:pbrand@grasshopper.grasshoppernet.com] > Sent: Monday, March 23, 1998 6:57 PM > To: klr650@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (klr650) junk > > If I were thinking about buying a KLR and followed this list > for a month or so, I would be looking for something else.The KLR > would appear to be a bare bones piece of junk. Once you buy > it virtually everything on it should be replaced just as soon as > possible! It would be interesting to take the dealers price, > say 4600, the 3000 overhaul, tires, windshield, center stand > etc. etc.etc. and see the price of the finished piece.Let's say > you paid a dealer to do all this before you took delivery.... > How much? > So for anyone just having bought a KLR, box stock is just fine! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 20:38:47 -0500 From: "Michael Magnatta" Subject: Re: (klr650) Corbin Bites!!!!! Update. People, I was just thinking, very often there is a local auto/marine upholstery shop that probably does great work. Dealing with someone local gives you the opportunity to communicate face to face, and for the most part eliminates the guesswork with regard to quality control. Just a thought. Mike - -----Original Message----- From: Norman D Coffenberry To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Date: Friday, March 27, 1998 7:49 PM Subject: Re: (klr650) Corbin Bites!!!!! Update. > > >>> >I looked at all other options, didn't have much of a choice. A >>Russell >>> >would be my first choice, but would put me way too high (I'm 5' 9" >>> tall), >>> >plus they are more than ugly,IMHO. > >Hmmmm.... I'm also 5' 9" and my Russell works fine. How often do you need >to put your feet on the ground if you own a KLR? I mostly keep moving... >and who can see the seat if you are sitting on it and when you're not, >who the hell cares what anyone thinks, IMHO? >The service was GREAT, the comfort, SUPERB! > >_____________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com >Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 18:57:59 -0700 From: "Fred Hink" Subject: Re: (klr650) Throttle lock... - -----Original Message----- From: Crystal & Fred Olsen To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Date: Friday, March 27, 1998 6:00 PM Subject: Re: (klr650) Throttle lock... >Gino > >Where do I get an NEP-CC3? Kawa part? > >FJO Hey Fred, You can get the NEP cruise control at any bike shop. I sell them for $18.95 I will have some Vista Cruise controls at my shop for the "Rally". Has anyone used the Vista Cruise and what do you think of it? Fred Hink moabmc@lasal.net Arrowhead Motorsports http://cctr.umkc.edu/user/khink/moabmc/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 19:53:22 -0600 From: Jim Barthell Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR Starting Robert Kaub wrote: > Can this be right? '98 KLR650 > Cold start after bike sits all night. > Starter will not operate unless bike is in nuetral and clutch lever is > released, that is your left hand is not touching the clutch lever. > After the bike starts, you can stop and re-start the bike in neutral with > the clutch lever released OR with it pulled fully against the left hand grip. > The owner's manual is too vague on this. It doesn't seem right to me. > Side stand switch works correctly. Thanks My '97 just developed this behavior recently, dealer fixed it. He said the switch or contacts were dirty. Mine has had this happen twice in 10000 miles. - -- Jim Barthell - TX '97 'C-O-O-O-W'...asaki KiLleR 650 FSSNOC #2421 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 21:04:29 -0500 From: "Michael Magnatta" Subject: Re: (klr650) Tire pressure again. and again. 28psi front, 35psi rear?!? The manual says 21/21 with under 215lb. load. I know you said don't ask you why, but I just gotta! Did you run factory pressures and then switch? Did you notice a difference? Thanks in advance. Mike - -----Original Message----- From: Bill Haycock To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Date: Thursday, March 26, 1998 9:09 AM Subject: Re: (klr650) Tire pressure again. >Chadd Thompson wrote: >> >> Sorry I know this was already covered but I was wondering what pressure you >> guys run in the Avon Gripsters? >> >> Thanks >> Chadd Thompson >> chadd@accessus.net > >I run 28 psi in front and 35 psi in the rear - don't ask me why! >someone told me to I guess - I think it was my mechanic a number of >years ago! > >Bill > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 18:25:48 -0800 From: Jean Philippe Bagel Subject: RE: (klr650) KLR Starting I had a similar problem a while back. Turned out to be a contact under the seat where the battery connectors are. - -JP - -----Original Message----- From: Jim Barthell [mailto:Jim.Barthell@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Friday, March 27, 1998 5:53 PM To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR Starting Robert Kaub wrote: > Can this be right? '98 KLR650 > Cold start after bike sits all night. > Starter will not operate unless bike is in nuetral and clutch lever is > released, that is your left hand is not touching the clutch lever. > After the bike starts, you can stop and re-start the bike in neutral with > the clutch lever released OR with it pulled fully against the left hand grip. > The owner's manual is too vague on this. It doesn't seem right to me. > Side stand switch works correctly. Thanks My '97 just developed this behavior recently, dealer fixed it. He said the switch or contacts were dirty. Mine has had this happen twice in 10000 miles. - -- Jim Barthell - TX '97 'C-O-O-O-W'...asaki KiLleR 650 FSSNOC #2421 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 20:29:50 -0600 From: Jim Barthell Subject: Re: (klr650) Tire pressure again. and again. Michael Magnatta wrote: > 28psi front, 35psi rear?!? The manual says 21/21 with under 215lb. load. > I know you said don't ask you why, but I just gotta! Did you run factory > pressures and then switch? Did you notice a difference? Thanks in > advance. > > Mike Avon Gripsters come with a manual?? I run Metzler street tires at 42/42. The Metzlers did not come with a manual ;-) - -- Jim Barthell - TX '97 'C-O-O-O-W'...asaki KiLleR 650 FSSNOC #2421 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 21:45:40 -0500 From: "Michael Magnatta" Subject: Re: (klr650) Tire pressure again. and again. No, silly! The bike came with the manual. The tires came with the UPS truck! Mike - -----Original Message----- From: Jim Barthell To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Date: Friday, March 27, 1998 9:42 PM Subject: Re: (klr650) Tire pressure again. and again. Michael Magnatta wrote: > 28psi front, 35psi rear?!? The manual says 21/21 with under 215lb. load. > I know you said don't ask you why, but I just gotta! Did you run factory > pressures and then switch? Did you notice a difference? Thanks in > advance. > > Mike Avon Gripsters come with a manual?? I run Metzler street tires at 42/42. The Metzlers did not come with a manual ;-) - -- Jim Barthell - TX '97 'C-O-O-O-W'...asaki KiLleR 650 FSSNOC #2421 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 22:34:10 -0500 (EST) From: lycurgus@lycosmail.com Subject: (klr650) tank removal/maintenance Greetings from the thawing North! I thought I'd jump in here with my own stupid question [I know, I know...the only stupid question is the one you don't ask]. Before I wake my '97 KLR from it's winter slumber I wanted to make sure I knew how to remove the fuel tank [I need to replace the spark plug]. Can anyone give me a quick tutorial on this proceedure? The fuel tank removal, that is, not the plug. It's not at all obvious to my mechanically inept mind. Is there a way to do this while lubing my chain? Just kidding! BTW I've learned more from this truly brilliant list in a couple of days than in a winter of pestering my local dealer. I'm puzzled by all the carb problems, though. thanks in advance, Tom Clay Winnipeg MB Canada - ----------------------------------------------------- Get free personalized email at http://email.lycos.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 22:35:26 -0500 From: temsley@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: (klr650) Extra Wires Bob, The unused wires are for running lights, constant 12v. Todd ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 22:40:56 -0500 From: temsley@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: (klr650) Helmets.. "I can't say it loud enough, but I believe that helmets save lifes..." AMEN! Todd ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 22:43:47 -0500 From: temsley@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: (klr650) Corbin Bites!!!!! Update. Pete, It sounds different to read it then it felt to write it. I wonder if I sound like that very often. Fruedian? Hope not. Still hetero I hope, Todd ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 22:47:07 -0500 From: temsley@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: (klr650) Helmets.. I have been happy with many helmets in my life. The key is to get one that you like so you want to wear it. I am not such a safety fanatic, after all I ride fairly quickly on the road, but because of wind in my eyes and a louder than normal volume level, I am less comfortable riding without a helmet. The protection from the road is just a great bonus. Todd (trying not to crash) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 23:00:45 -0500 From: temsley@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR's in general Wes, They will probably crash-test your Trans-Alp, then put a license plate on it after it's wrecked. Todd ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 21:26:22 -0700 From: Kurt Simpson Subject: Re: (klr650) tank removal/maintenance At 10:34 PM 3/27/98 -0500, you wrote: >Greetings from the thawing North! > > I thought I'd jump in here with my own stupid question [I know, I know...the only stupid question is the one you don't ask]. Before I wake my '97 KLR from it's winter slumber I wanted to make sure I knew how to remove the fuel tank [I need to replace the spark plug]. Can anyone give me a quick tutorial on this proceedure? The fuel tank removal, that is, not the plug. It's not at all obvious to my mechanically inept mind. > Is there a way to do this while lubing my chain? Just kidding! > BTW I've learned more from this truly brilliant list in a couple of days than in a winter of pestering my local dealer. I'm puzzled by all the carb problems, though. > >thanks in advance, > >Tom Clay >Winnipeg MB Canada Tom, what is it like in Winnipeg anyway? You know, I've only taken mine off once and it is still off. Instead of going out in the garage and getting the exact steps I just want to encourage you to follow your instincts. Take a good long look at it...the tank it is...if you can't see how it is held down it is because something else has to come off first. A lot of times that is the seat because the tank slides up and out or in and down depending on which way you are going. So, now the problem of the tank is the problem of the seat. If the seat can't be removed by putting the key in the helmet lock and pressing something and lifting it up and out then it probably is bolted and if you can't see the bolts it is because they are under the side covers. So now the problem is the side covers. Side covers are expensive and delicate and not obvious as to how they come off except they usually aren't bolted, they just "pop" off but the trick is like taking the panels off of auto/truck doors to find where they are attached and to get the leverage either by fingers or a prying object as close to the attachment point as you can to minimize the kind of pressure that could crack the plastic studs. So feel around and pull a little and see if you can get the side covers off. A lot of times the bottoms come off easier than the top. Once you get the side covers off, you can see what it will take to get the seat off and whether you needed to take the side covers and seat off at all to get the tank off...is the kind of clear? O.K. so take the seat off, probably a couple of 12 mm bolts, one on each side, now lift up and out and you are starting get a beautiful picture in front of you, a lean mean machine. At this point, you can usually see the only thing that is holding you back, oftentimes a single bolt at the rear of the tank hidden by the seat (occasionally, you'll have a tank secured by a small bolt on either side of the front of the tank). Probably a 12 mm, take this off and now you can lift just a little here and there to start undoing the rubber hoses. With the KLR, I took off the radiator shrouds and can't remember whether this was necessary or not, I just wanted to see my engine and the front of the tank. If you have a "Californian" (in Canada) there are two drain hoses coming off the bottom of the tank, depending on whether they are connected to anything or not (on mine, I stripped all of the emissions stuff, so they just drain and vent) you just take a quiet moment and note which is which. If there is any doubt just get some masking tape and mark them carefully. Go to the petcock and you'll probably see two hoses, one is the main fuel supply and the other is a vacuum hose going to the carb. The vacuum actuates the petcock allowing the fuel to flow unless someone has altered it in which case there is probably no hose and the carb is plugged. Here you just have to slide the hose around until you can get a pair of needle nose on the clamp and put a bit of pressure on it while you are pulling it off. So, in this way, just make sure everything is disconnected and that you know what goes where when putting it back. Oftentimes this is made easy for you because the things are specific diameters. Anyways, at this point, you can start pulling up and out and if you have missed anything you will find out real quick but it will not be a problem, it will just hang up and you find out what is hanging and either disconnect or move around it. Rest the tank a moment and make sure you have a safe secure place to put it so that it doesn't fall and get scratched or dented. Get back at it. Up and out, once it comes off, take note of the rubber cushions in case they are not secured, and cable routing so that when you reinstall no cables hang up. It is much simpler than it sounds and you can trust yourself all the way... Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 23:41:45 -0500 From: temsley@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: (klr650) Re: Helmets Pat, "I would have gotten the 3-Sport (mentioned earlier), but it only came in goofy color" Aren't you being a little judgemental. I don't feel goofy. Todd ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 23:45:47 -0500 From: temsley@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: (klr650) Tire pressure again. and again. You get to keep the UPS truck? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 23:52:37 -0600 From: se Subject: (klr650) high visibility Another high visibility and low power method to make your KLR visible from the rear is to get one of those motorcycle sized neon license tag frames. After seeing a couple on a Goldwing almost get run over one night from behind I decided to get visible so I got one of those neon tag frames and it really stands out. I made a heavy aluminum backing plate to protect it from flying rocks AND to allow me to mount it higher (almost under the fender). It is very noticeable! My dealer had them in blue, red and HOT PINK! He was ashamed of the PINK one and let me have it for 1/2 price. Just what I wanted! It makes it even more noticeable (than red), plus it immediately id's my other "perfect enough wife" as an in-your-face "her KLR". Been in the pink two years, no problems except no one will ride with me and rocks keep cutting the wires since I did not route them correctly. Now if I could just get some lavender running lights and one of those J.C. Witney "Blue Dots" for my tail light.. . .. Robert 87 KLR650 83 GL650I P.S. Kathleen could get a blue neon tag frame for her "him KLR". The ability to be any owners desired gender is just another example of the KLR's versatility, eh? temsley@ix.netcom.com wrote: > Morgan, > > Screw the cops, the light sounds like a great way to save your ass. My > wife was following me on my KLR last summer at night and said my dinky > taillight was almost invisible. Blink away young man! > > Todd ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 23:12:06 -0700 From: jfountain@webtv.net Subject: Re: (klr650) tank removal/maintenance kurt, you could probably get a job as a negotiator for the cops like in those hostage or terrorist situations. or write a book called the 12 steps to motorcycle maintenance mastery. jeff ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 23:23:25 -0700 From: jfountain@webtv.net Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR ....brothers/sisters in black hey kurt, that name on the ad is jonathan so that would make it brothers/brothers in black and I don't do that. thanks though...... jeff( who went with the sony web tv unit and keyboard because the the rival co keyboard and box unit were grey, NOT BLACK! ) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 23:28:23 -0700 From: jfountain@webtv.net Subject: Re: (klr650) Fram Oil Filter I see many references to fram oil filters for the KLR, does everybody seem to prefer these to the kawasaki parts filters? Is it a cost thing, or a quality thing, or just a personal thing? I always bought fram for the cars, but wondered if they really are superior to the factory filters. jeff ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 23:35:40 -0700 From: jfountain@webtv.net Subject: Re: (klr650) RE: Oil Plug fred, if I order two of the mag plugs for the KLR and happen to not make it up to the rally, I could just have you mail them to me right? JEFF ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 00:52:04 -0600 From: Patrick Brand Subject: Re: (klr650) Corbin Bites!!!!! Update. Norman D Coffenberry wrote: > > >> >I looked at all other options, didn't have much of a choice. A > >Russell > >> >would be my first choice, but would put me way too high (I'm 5' 9" > >> tall), > >> >plus they are more than ugly,IMHO. > > Hmmmm.... I'm also 5' 9" and my Russell works fine. How often do you need > to put your feet on the ground if you own a KLR? I mostly keep moving... > and who can see the seat if you are sitting on it and when you're not, > who the hell cares what anyone thinks, IMHO? > The service was GREAT, the comfort, SUPERB! > > _____________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com > Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]Are the infamous "Have KLR Will Travel,"Coffenberry? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 23:52:57 -0700 From: jfountain@webtv.net Subject: Re: (klr650) IMS tank.. I have a few questions about the tank IMS makes for the KLR. I believe I read that it actually holds more than the stock tank . Is this correct? also, been thinking alot about this tank. I have always liked the " natural " colored tanks in that you can see the level of gas. so I'm a dork anyways, a friend of mine was telling me he was going to order a IMS since they now came in the green/blue to match the 96 on color scheme. this ended up being untrue. they make them in white and natural and maybe that royal blue from the pre-94 fruitcake colors. I'm trying to decide on whether or not on taking the gamble and ordering the natural and seeing how it would look against the stock shrouds and side panels. I figured if you could get the KL part of the stock stickers to put on the tank to complete the KLR logo it might look kinda cool. not that half price hot pink neon deal cool ( no offense) but maybe wih a black seat( yep it's me jeff) and all the other black on the bike it cold possibly work. I will probably just go ahead and order it now since I have gone so far as to ask for open opinions on this list. I better get some pictures of this bike of mine up on the website. you all probably think I'm really a sick XR owner just playing with everyone. jeff ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 01:57:30 -0500 From: Thomas Simpson Subject: Re: (klr650) Fram Oil Filter jfountain@webtv.net wrote: > > I see many references to fram oil filters > for the KLR, does everybody seem to > prefer these to the kawasaki parts filters? > Is it a cost thing, or a quality thing, or just > a personal thing? I always bought fram > for the cars, but wondered if they really > are superior to the factory filters. In my case, its more a matter of what my dealer opts to stock for a given model. The local Kawa dealer may stock either Fram or OEM filters for a given model. Im not sure why, but I dont see how I can go too far wrong either way. - -Tom '96 KLR 650 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 01:58:42 -0500 From: Thomas Simpson Subject: Re: (klr650) Fuel Filter Robert Kaub wrote: > > Is there a fuel filter anywhere on the KLR's. I suspect one in the fuel > control valve under the tank. Has anyone ever added an in-line one? Thanks I added an in-line filter to mine with no difficulties. - -Tom '96 KLR 650 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 02:08:36 -0500 From: Thomas Simpson Subject: Re: (klr650) Re: Wire under Headlight PAT_HENSLEY@HP-USA-om32.om.hp.com wrote: > > However, this does make me wonder if I can get the auxiliary headlight for > my US KLR. Does anyone have a photo of the aux headlight? Anyone installed > it? I believe their is an extra bulb socket within the euro-models headlamp. I suspect it lookes just like the US-spec one from the outside. - -Tom '96 KLR 650 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 02:18:04 -0500 From: Thomas Simpson Subject: Re: (klr650) tank removal/maintenance lycurgus@lycosmail.com wrote: > > Greetings from the thawing North! > > I thought I'd jump in here with my own stupid question [I know, I know...the only stupid question is the one you don't ask]. Before I wake my '97 KLR from it's winter slumber I wanted to make sure I knew how to remove the fuel tank [I need to replace the spark plug]. Can anyone give me a quick tutorial on this proceedure? The fuel tank removal, that is, not the plug. It's not at all obvious to my mechanically inept mind. Remove in approximatly the following order: side panels seat (two bolts on sides, lift at rear and slide back and up) screws attaching the body panels at the front of the tank to the tank (you do not have to remove the front panels completely) fuel line and vacum line running to petcock fuel overflow drain line at back of tank two bolts at rear of tank Simultaneously lift up on the rear of the tank and pull the tank upwards and to the rear. That should do it. > I'm puzzled by all the carb problems, though. As am I. Never have felt the need to mess with the engine... yet. :) - -Tom '96 KLR 650 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 05:25:59 -0700 From: "Fred Hink" Subject: Re: (klr650) RE: Oil Plug Jeff, SURE! What ever you need, if I don't happen to have it in stock I'd be glad to order it for you and have it shipped. Fred Hink moabmc@lasal.net Arrowhead Motorsports http://cctr.umkc.edu/user/khink/moabmc/index.html - -----Original Message----- From: jfountain@webtv.net To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Date: Friday, March 27, 1998 11:38 PM Subject: Re: (klr650) RE: Oil Plug fred, if I order two of the mag plugs for the KLR and happen to not make it up to the rally, I could just have you mail them to me right? JEFF ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 07:33:39 EST From: nocoffee@juno.com (Norman D Coffenberry) Subject: Re: (klr650) Corbin Bites!!!!! Update. Are the infamous "Have KLR Will Travel,"Coffenberry? > > In the words of "Slingblade Carl".... Un huh... _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 07:50:55 -0500 From: "Michael Magnatta" Subject: Re: (klr650) Tire pressure again. and again. No, it was the tires or the truck. I chose the tires. Now, if the driver was female... - -----Original Message----- From: temsley@ix.netcom.com To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Date: Friday, March 27, 1998 11:51 PM Subject: Re: (klr650) Tire pressure again. and again. You get to keep the UPS truck? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 08:06:01 -0400 From: "Rick Clarke" Subject: Re: (klr650) Fuel Filter > Is there a fuel filter anywhere on the KLR's. From the factory, there is a fine mesh screen in the tank at the top of the petcock. When I bought my KLR used, there was a large amount of rusty sediment in the tank. After cleaning the tank, I took of the carb to make sure it wasn't plugged up with crap. (I didn't realize the lean surge was caused by poor jetting.) Much to my surprise, there was hardly _any_ junk in the carb. The wire mesh did an excellent job of keeping the carb clean. I still installed a see-through filter in the fuel line. - -Rick R.P.Clarke (rpclarke@mindspring.com) "What traffic?" RTP, NC, USA DoD#5811 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 10:39:42 -0500 From: Bill Haycock Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR Starting Jim Barthell wrote: > > Robert Kaub wrote: > > > Can this be right? '98 KLR650 > > Cold start after bike sits all night. > > Starter will not operate unless bike is in nuetral and clutch lever is > > released, that is your left hand is not touching the clutch lever. > > After the bike starts, you can stop and re-start the bike in neutral with > > the clutch lever released OR with it pulled fully against the left hand grip. > > The owner's manual is too vague on this. It doesn't seem right to me. > > Side stand switch works correctly. Thanks > > My '97 just developed this behavior recently, dealer fixed it. He said the switch > or contacts were dirty. Mine has had this happen twice in 10000 miles. > > -- > Jim Barthell - TX > > '97 'C-O-O-O-W'...asaki KiLleR 650 > FSSNOC #2421 You might want to go ahead and by=pass your clutch safety switch. You can find out how to do this at: http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page23.html It will do away with a number of problems with the switch that seems to go bad at the worst times! Bill Haycock ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 11:21:00 EST From: RKJ38 Subject: (klr650) front brake noise Ok...put about 100 miles on the used KLR (95 with 1600 miles) and the only thing i can't figure out is a noise that occurs when i apply the front brake. I checked the pads and rotor, the brake feels fine (well, as fine as a stock klr brake can feel) but i get this light baseball card in the spokes kind of noise from somewhere on the front of the bike with the brake on. Actually doesn't sound like its coming from the brake, but only happens on brake application. Ideas?? Thanks, Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 11:21:46 EST From: K650dsn Subject: Re: (klr650) RFI: KLR Lowering Kit In a message dated 98-03-27 17:00:31 EST, you write: << Wow, I've really been pestering the group with questions, but here's a few more. While perusing the KLR page and the Classified question, I noticed one bike mentions a "lowering link". >> Yep, there is a way to lower a KLR650. Call quality Engine R&D at 334-677-1708. They have 'em. Gino ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 11:24:46 EST From: K650dsn Subject: Re: (klr650) Throttle lock... In a message dated 98-03-27 19:58:32 EST, you write: << Gino Where do I get an NEP-CC3? Kawa part? >> They are availablr from just about any catalogue or your local Yamaha dealer might even have one as they are for dual cable Yamaha bikes. Gino ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 11:31:33 EST From: K650dsn Subject: Re: (klr650) IMS tank.. In a message dated 98-03-28 01:53:24 EST, you write: << I have a few questions about the tank IMS makes for the KLR. I believe I read that it actually holds more than the stock tank . Is this correct? >> I tested the IMS KLR gas tank early on in the newsletter, but have noty reported on it. It is supposed to hold 5.5 gallons but I could only squeeze 4.8 gallons into it. Fit was poor, petcock mount leaked, welded in nut broke loose after a couple hundred miles. I do not recommend it. Gino ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 10:08:34 -0700 From: jfountain@webtv.net Subject: Re: (klr650) front brake noise I also have noticed this sound, and it comes from the brake area when I apply the brake only too. I have the oversize rotor kit and new EBS pads but somebody told me it was from the holes drilled in the rotor, that the pads going over these produce the sound I keep hearing. I only noticed it after I put the different rotor on though, did not hear it on stock brake set up. jeff ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 10:09:22 -0700 From: jfountain@webtv.net Subject: Re: (klr650) IMS tank.. thanks for the info. I will avoid this tank. jeff ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 12:10:34 -0500 From: Bill Haycock Subject: (klr650) KLR650 Saddle Review and Evaluations To the KLR LIST I have just posted the Saddle Review and Evaluation article Gino did for the KLRDSN Letter: http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page36.html Bill Haycock ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 12:33:49 EST From: Cloudhid Subject: (klr650) Helmet Head, Lov it >>The National Geographic television show - featuring Lyle Lovett, >>Malcolm Smith and Scot Harden riding KTMs through Chile - will air on >>Sunday, March 29 at 7 p.m. on TBS. >I was just sent this by Clark Collins of the Blue Ribbon Coalition. Sounds >like an interesting show, maybe I'll have to fire up the old VCR. >Fred Hink This is gonna be fun. After watching Lyle Lovett rooster Chilean dust, I'll be looking to see how his rooster hairdo holds up when he pulls off his helmet. I'll tape it to give to the rest of my Board members. Next time I show up for a meeting on my klr, I pray their 'tudes will be more relaxed. "He's swimming through that Jordan Going to the other side But if it's all the same to you Lord I think I'll stay dry" (L.Lovett) Ron (singin' hallelujah) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 10:05:57 -0800 (PST) From: Eric Mercer Subject: (klr650) Re: extra wires Robert Kaub wrote: >OK folks, what are the unused two wires behind the right side of the >headlight for on my '98 KLR? One wire is brown/white stripe, one is >black/yellow stripe. Both end in an unused straight-in connector and are >just hanging out of the harness. The wires are for a 'city light' used on european models. The brown/white is 12 volts positive and is connected to the lighting circuit; the black/yellow is a ground. These wires are perfect for any low wattage add-on electrical item such as GPS, cassette player, etc. I added running lights to my front turnsignals and used these wires for power. The brown/white wire is also hot when the ignition key is turned to the 'P' position. Eric '92 KLR ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 13:17:00 EST From: PAnder7102 Subject: Re: (klr650) front brake noise My front brake also makes noise when applied. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 13:29:53 EST From: Cloudhid Subject: (klr650) ?KLR's in general and Ron's too true postscript! Any listers have room on their couch? I received the following post at my office yesterday..........from my wife. Please be sensitive with any replies as we share mail accounts. Ron (sendin' out an S.O.S.) ===================== >In a message dated 3/27/98 6:46:47 AM, Ron wrote: > >>Ron (living to help his fellow monks) > > > he ain't kidding either... > > > his wife joan's been looking for him for weeks now! > > guess talking to these ya-hoo's about klr > is even more fun than driving one..... > >(joan going to get her own damn toy to play with > hoping it comes with 'rite along buddies like > ron's klr) ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V1 #38 ***************************