From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V1 #39 Reply-To: klr650 Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Sunday, March 29 1998 Volume 01 : Number 039 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 16:12:53 -0500 (EST) From: lycurgus@lycosmail.com Subject: (klr650) Re: tank removal/maintenance Brothers, without you [and Gino's newsletter] I would be lost. Thank you Kurt and Tom for the tank removal instructions! Kurt, I'm afraid to ask you for the proceedure on re-installing my battery. :] After all, I'm the guy who rode my XS1100 400 miles with no oil in the middle gear of the driveshaft [don't ask...the bike seemed fine; it was the Canadian-spec model eh? We don't need no steenking gear oil]. Seriously, you guys should consider re-writing the KLR "owner's manual". "Ask your authorized Kawasaki dealer for torque values." Right. After the way those boneheads installed a new rear tire for me, I don't think they own a torque wrench [they didn't tighten the chain adjuster bolts, or the axle bolt, and re-used the same cotter pin. I'm, uh.....lucky I noticed it before I rode off....]. But I digress.... Well, it's finally spring here in Winterpeg, and I have a tank to remove! Tom Clay Winnipeg MB '97 KLR650 6 month riding season Even farther North than Minnesota - ----------------------------------------------------- Get free personalized email at http://email.lycos.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 16:09:06 -0700 (MST) From: Jeffrey P Moorbeck Subject: (klr650) side racks (fwd) - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 14:59:03 -0700 (MST) From: Jeffrey P Moorbeck To: klr650@list.xmission.com Subject: side racks I just received a set of the driveline side racks - very nice looking units. One question on installation though: When I tighten the new 60mmx8mm bolt in the luggage rack the threads bottom out in the existing nut before the side rack is actually tight against the luggage rack. So there is about a quarter inch of play in the side rack at the upper mounting bolt (hope this is making sense). Is this normal? Or do I need to remove the original nut for the side bolt of the luggage rack? - -jeff moorbeck ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 17:16:24 -0600 From: "alex jomarron" Subject: (klr650) Re: Vista cruise When I ordered my 98, I asked the dealer to install a "vista cruise." They did just that. I had to tell them how to anchor the tab (thanks to the list!). It works just fine. The thumb tab is large and easy to find. YMMV, Alex Jomarron Oak Park, IL USA 88 BMW K75S 98 Kawasaki KLR 650 "I could go east, I could go west, it was all for me to decide" - -Bob Seger ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 19:31:27 -0500 From: Crystal & Fred Olsen Subject: Re: (klr650) Throttle lock... Fred, Which do you prefer, Vista or the NEP? (assuming amateur installation and use)? No offense intended Gino! BTW, whatsa "Rally? FJO Fred Hink wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > From: Crystal & Fred Olsen > To: klr650@lists.xmission.com > Date: Friday, March 27, 1998 6:00 PM > Subject: Re: (klr650) Throttle lock... > > >Gino > > > >Where do I get an NEP-CC3? Kawa part? > > > >FJO > > Hey Fred, > > You can get the NEP cruise control at any bike shop. I sell them for > $18.95 I will have some Vista Cruise controls at my shop for the "Rally". > Has anyone used the Vista Cruise and what do you think of it? > Fred Hink > moabmc@lasal.net > Arrowhead Motorsports > http://cctr.umkc.edu/user/khink/moabmc/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 19:37:21 -0500 From: Crystal & Fred Olsen Subject: Re: (klr650) klr cooling Speaking of manuals, my local dealer has told me that the 650 addendum is no longer available ( I have and '89). Is this a typical experience, or are you guys with newer models still able to get service manuals? FJO '89KLR650 '97Z50R (Nate's) Cloudhid wrote: > > In a message dated 3/25/98 4:29:56 AM, you wrote: > >I noticed the KLR in the base > >manual had 2 radiators a left and a right. When did they go to the single > >radiator configuration. Maybe everyone is right and no one is incorrect... > >the engineers did design a cool running KLR and maybe it, (the design), was > >modified after it went to production. 65degrees this morning on the way to > >work and it sure did run sweet ;-) > >-- > >Jim Barthell - TX > > Jim, I won't ask where you were sitting when you discovered this. > And I'm not saying where I was squatting when I verified your info. > It does indeed appear the 600 has 2 separate radiators. Looks > like they switched to the single set up with the intro of the 650. > No word in either manual as to total surface area of the > 600 or 650 radiator, but the 650 does have an additional 1/10th > of a liter coolant capacity. > > Ron (who was sending .1 liter to it's spiritual destiny at the time) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 19:45:18 -0500 From: Crystal & Fred Olsen Subject: Re: (klr650) Kaw Luggage Fred, I'm not familiar with buying tires, but if I were to buy them buy mail, how would you react/charge to mount them for me? Would that include balancing? Does one spin balance MC tires? (really interested in Gripsters, have Pirelli MT-21's and seem to get VVIIBBRRRAATTEEEDDD on the road!) FJO 89KLR650 83Suzuki FA50 Fred Hink wrote: > > Hey Group! > > Gino wrote a great article on the Kawasaki soft luggage that is on the > KLR650 DSN web page. I will have several sets of the luggage at the rally > in Moab for you to look over, purchase, try out, etc. Hopefully I will be > able to beat the suggested dealers price. I guess while I am blowing my own > horn, for you that are interested, I will have tires -Gripsters, GP110s, > MT21s & Trailmax. I will have a bunch of magnetic drain plugs and the K&P > stainless steel oil filters, along with all the other garbage that all bike > shops usually have. Don't get your hopes up too much, my one man shop is > very small but I do stock most of the necessities. > I have a map on my web page that can help you find my shop in Moab. For > you that are keeping score - it was 86 here yesterday! See ya, > Fred Hink > moabmc@lasal.net > Arrowhead Motorsports > http://cctr.umkc.edu/user/khink/moabmc/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 19:38:34 EST From: Cloudhid Subject: Re: (klr650) klr cooling >Speaking of manuals, my local dealer has told me that the 650 addendum >is no longer available ( I have and '89). Is this a typical experience, >or are you guys with newer models still able to get service manuals? > >FJO >'89KLR650 >'97Z50R (Nate's) They were still available as of 2/7/98. Kawa part #99924-1080-55, retail $13.95. Had my dealer on the phone just now. He doesn't show it as being discontinued. Ron (is your couch lumpy?) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 19:41:51 -0500 From: "Germain Gagnon" Subject: (klr650) KLR650 plus and minus Hi I'm looking for a light bike with enough power to go once a while on the hyway. The main utility for this bike will be ramble only for relaxing with emphase on small road and unpaved road. I'm also looking for a bike with good suspension, good handling (I was not too sastify with my Magna V45), standard position and torque at low RPM. The Kawasaki KLR 650 seems to be a good choice for me. My main concern is the vibration on this kind of bike. Is it acceptable for a guy used to a Magna v45 ? By the same time feel free to give the plus and the minus on the Kawasaki KLR650. Thank you Germain Gagnon Suzuki TS75 (77) Suzuki GS400 (78) Honda Magna V45 (84) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 19:47:56 EST From: Cloudhid Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR650 plus and minus >My main concern is the vibration on this kind of bike. >Is it acceptable for a guy used to a Magna v45 ? The jury's still out on this one. However my wife hasn't complained:-) >By the same time feel free to give the plus and the minus on the Kawasaki >KLR650. KLR650 +++++ Magna V45 ----- Ron (you can't go wrong with a klr) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 19:56:11 -0500 From: PAT_HENSLEY@HP-USA-om32.om.hp.com Subject: (klr650) Re: Removal of Fuel Tank Tom wrote:>>>> I thought I'd jump in here with my own stupid question [I know, I know...the only stupid question is the one you don't ask]. Before I wake my '97 KLR from it's winter slumber I wanted to make sure I knew how to remove the fuel tank [I need to replace the spark plug]. Can anyone give me a quick tutorial on this proceedure? The fuel tank removal, that is, not the plug. It's not at all obvious to my mechanically inept mind. <<<<<< Tom: I just (and I mean just) changed my plug so the fuel tank removal procedure is still very fresh. 1) Take off each of the plastic side covers (phillips screw driver) 2) Remove, on each side, the black phillips head screw near the front of the tank that holds the radiator wings onto the gas tank. 3) Remove the two bolts that hold the back of the tank to the frame (10mm socket needed) 4) Remove the two hoses at the back of the tank (they are color coded blue and red) 5) Turn the gas petcock off 6) Remove the two hoses that connect to the gas petcock. 7) Remove the tank buy lifting the rear of the tank and then pulling in towards the back of the bike. I did this with a full tank and had no problem. It is very fast and easy. Good luck, Pat ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 18:16:44 -0700 From: "Fred Hink" Subject: Fw: (klr650) Kaw Luggage - -----Original Message----- From: Fred Hink To: Crystal & Fred Olsen Date: Saturday, March 28, 1998 5:51 PM Subject: Re: (klr650) Kaw Luggage >Fred, > > The new tires I sell I mount for free and balance if you want, excluding >the weights. Mail order of course can't do that. There are spin balance >machines for M/C wheels but are way too expensive for my blood. I would >spin balance your tires by hand, it's easy to do, unless you are balancing a >street tire for 100 mph + I run MT21s and have never had any vibration. It >is all in the way they get mounted. If you are coming to the "Rally" and >need some tires be sure and let me know what you'll need. >Fred Hink >moabmc@lasal.net >Arrowhead Motorsports >http://cctr.umkc.edu/user/khink/moabmc/index.html > >-----Original Message----- >From: Crystal & Fred Olsen >To: klr650@lists.xmission.com ; Fred Hink > >Date: Saturday, March 28, 1998 5:40 PM >Subject: Re: (klr650) Kaw Luggage > > >>Fred, >> >>I'm not familiar with buying tires, but if I were to buy them buy mail, >>how would you react/charge to mount them for me? Would that include >>balancing? Does one spin balance MC tires? (really interested in >>Gripsters, have Pirelli MT-21's and seem to get VVIIBBRRRAATTEEEDDD on >>the road!) >> >>FJO >> >>89KLR650 >>83Suzuki FA50 >> >>Fred Hink wrote: >>> >>> Hey Group! >>> >>> Gino wrote a great article on the Kawasaki soft luggage that is on >the >>> KLR650 DSN web page. I will have several sets of the luggage at the >rally >>> in Moab for you to look over, purchase, try out, etc. Hopefully I will >be >>> able to beat the suggested dealers price. I guess while I am blowing my >own >>> horn, for you that are interested, I will have tires -Gripsters, GP110s, >>> MT21s & Trailmax. I will have a bunch of magnetic drain plugs and the >K&P >>> stainless steel oil filters, along with all the other garbage that all >bike >>> shops usually have. Don't get your hopes up too much, my one man shop is >>> very small but I do stock most of the necessities. >>> I have a map on my web page that can help you find my shop in Moab. >For >>> you that are keeping score - it was 86 here yesterday! See ya, >>> Fred Hink >>> moabmc@lasal.net >>> Arrowhead Motorsports >>> http://cctr.umkc.edu/user/khink/moabmc/index.html >> > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 18:21:53 -0700 From: Kurt Simpson Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR650 Saddle Review and Evaluations At 12:10 PM 3/28/98 -0500, you wrote: >To the KLR LIST > >I have just posted the Saddle Review and Evaluation article Gino did for >the KLRDSN Letter: > >http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page36.html > >Bill Haycock Has anyone tried Eldon Carl's triple-density foam saddle retrofit? Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 20:27:38 EST From: Cloudhid Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR650 plus and minus Germain, I must apologize for the earlier response to your post. I have an unruly grandson who resides with me. Live and learn. He will not get my new password. The Kawasaki KLR650 is more than up to the tasks that you require. I have not ridden the Magna. But almost all of the multi cylinder bikes that I have, ran smoother at highway speeds. Still the vibration on the KLR is less than some other single cylinder bikes I've ridden. Some of the folks here have added gel grips and/or after market saddles to lessen the felt vibration. One of our listers is in the lab as we speak, running tests to see what else might be done to eliminate more of transferred vibration. You can look at the archives for other comments at: KLR650 Archives Also check out the home page for more feedback at: KLR650 Dual Sport News & Owners Group Ron (gramps) ============ In a message dated 3/28/98 4:41:25 PM, you wrote: >Hi >I'm looking for a light bike with enough power to go once a while on the >hyway. The main utility for this bike will be ramble only for relaxing with >emphase on small road and unpaved road. I'm also looking for a bike with >good suspension, good handling (I was not too sastify with my Magna V45), >standard position and torque at low RPM. The Kawasaki KLR 650 seems to be a >good choice for me. My main concern is the vibration on this kind of bike. >Is it acceptable for a guy used to a Magna v45 ? > >By the same time feel free to give the plus and the minus on the Kawasaki >KLR650. > >Thank you > >Germain Gagnon >Suzuki TS75 (77) >Suzuki GS400 (78) >Honda Magna V45 (84) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 18:40:19 -0700 From: Kurt Simpson Subject: Re: (klr650) klr cooling >Ron (is your couch lumpy?) Ron, I could lie to you but I'm in the same boat...my girlfriend thinks all I live for are my bikes and the internet. That is hogwash...I have lots of friends: Sam Adams, Dos Equis, St. Pauli Girl, Mol...son, Cor...ona...Dr. Jack Daniels....and they love being on the couch with me... Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 19:40:58 -0600 From: Jim Barthell Subject: Re: (klr650) klr cooling Cloudhid wrote: > They were still available as of 2/7/98. > Kawa part #99924-1080-55, retail $13.95. Ouch! I paid $25 a piece for them. - -- Jim Barthell - TX '97 'C-O-O-O-W'...asaki KiLleR 650 FSSNOC #2421 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 18:50:39 -0700 From: Kurt Simpson Subject: Re: (klr650) side racks (fwd) At 04:09 PM 3/28/98 -0700, you wrote: > > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 14:59:03 -0700 (MST) >From: Jeffrey P Moorbeck >To: klr650@list.xmission.com >Subject: side racks > >I just received a set of the driveline side racks - very nice looking >units. One question on installation though: When I tighten the new >60mmx8mm bolt in the luggage rack the threads bottom out in the existing >nut before the side rack is actually tight against the luggage rack. So >there is about a quarter inch of play in the side rack at the upper >mounting bolt (hope this is making sense). Is this normal? Or do I need to >remove the original nut for the side bolt of the luggage rack? >-jeff moorbeck Jeff, this one has me stumped, and I even went out to my garage and looked at them. So here come the stupid questions (stupid on my end), do you have the racks mounted rightside up? You swapped the upper bolt for the upper bolt in the passenger peg triangle right? You are using the supplied bolt from driveline right? You aren't mixing that bolt with any from other add-ons like Moose Handguards or bash plates. Sorry for the stupid questions but mine butts up solid as a rock without any hesitation. I don't remember swapping any nuts. Right back with some response, these are excellent pieces and there is no reason you should suffer any anxiety from the install. Meanwhile, I'll try to find my instructions to see if there is anything I overlooked...after the Utah game however. GO UTES....GO TUBBY ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 19:48:31 -0600 From: Jim Barthell Subject: Re: (klr650) Throttle lock... Fred Hink wrote: > Has anyone used the Vista Cruise and what do you think of it? I'm using it and like it very much. I haven't found the need to screw the tab to anything yet. I let it turn freely when not in use. I was looking at it again today but I decided to leave well enough alone and not drill any holes. It works just fine what can I say... If it don't stink don't poke it eh? - -- Jim Barthell - TX '97 'C-O-O-O-W'...asaki KiLleR 650 FSSNOC #2421 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 19:54:37 -0600 From: Jim Barthell Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR650 plus and minus Cloudhid wrote: > One of our listers is in the lab as we speak, running tests to see what > else might be done to eliminate more of transferred vibration. Wadda ya mean vibration? My KLR doesn't vibrate. Mirrors are rock solid at just about any speed. My '95 used to vibrate... I used to have to reach up and grab a mirror to see anything! But the '97 is as smooth as my Goldwing ever was. - -- Jim Barthell - TX '97 'C-O-O-O-W'...asaki KiLleR 650 FSSNOC #2421 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 19:07:14 -0700 (MST) From: Jeffrey P Moorbeck Subject: Re: (klr650) side racks (fwd) On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Kurt Simpson wrote: Thanks for the response Kurt, Yes, I had done everything correctly just needed to lean on the bolt a little more to get the last couple turns. Wa-la they are on and snug. While not a big 'Utes' fan I'll be pulling for Majerus as he's from my home town - Milwaukee, WI -jeff Moorbeck > At 04:09 PM 3/28/98 -0700, you wrote: > > > > > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 14:59:03 -0700 (MST) > >From: Jeffrey P Moorbeck > >To: klr650@list.xmission.com > >Subject: side racks > > > >I just received a set of the driveline side racks - very nice looking > >units. One question on installation though: When I tighten the new > >60mmx8mm bolt in the luggage rack the threads bottom out in the existing > >nut before the side rack is actually tight against the luggage rack. So > >there is about a quarter inch of play in the side rack at the upper > >mounting bolt (hope this is making sense). Is this normal? Or do I need to > >remove the original nut for the side bolt of the luggage rack? > >-jeff moorbeck > > Jeff, this one has me stumped, and I even went out to my garage and looked > at them. So here come the stupid questions (stupid on my end), do you have > the racks mounted rightside up? You swapped the upper bolt for the upper > bolt in the passenger peg triangle right? You are using the supplied bolt > from driveline right? You aren't mixing that bolt with any from other > add-ons like Moose Handguards or bash plates. Sorry for the stupid > questions but mine butts up solid as a rock without any hesitation. I don't > remember swapping any nuts. Right back with some response, these are > excellent pieces and there is no reason you should suffer any anxiety from > the install. Meanwhile, I'll try to find my instructions to see if there is > anything I overlooked...after the Utah game however. > > GO UTES....GO TUBBY > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 21:38:47 EST From: Cloudhid Subject: Re: (klr650) klr cooler >Ron, I could lie to you but I'm in the same boat...my girlfriend thinks all >I live for are my bikes and the internet. That is hogwash...I have lots of >friends: Sam Adams, Dos Equis, St. Pauli Girl, Mol...son, Cor...ona...Dr. >Jack Daniels....and they love being on the couch with me... > >Kurt You are indeed a lucky man my friend. My wife insists on monogamy. Ron (packin' up the KLR and movin' to a state where 2 or more is ok) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 21:43:06 EST From: Rcklr Subject: Re: (klr650) IMS tank.. Jeff, I just took an IMS tank off my '93 that I bought used a year ago. I haven't used it other than it sat on the bike over the winter. (I thought I might ride a little this winter with El Nin~o, but ...) It has a petcock on it, and is ready to go. If you want to buy one this way, let me know. It's white. I'm willing to let it go for $50 plus shipping. I would classify it as in good shape. MN Ron ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 22:04:39 -0500 From: Crystal & Fred Olsen Subject: Re: (klr650) klr cooling Got it, I'll try another dealer. Couch thing is over my head! FJO Cloudhid wrote: > > >Speaking of manuals, my local dealer has told me that the 650 addendum > >is no longer available ( I have and '89). Is this a typical experience, > >or are you guys with newer models still able to get service manuals? > > > >FJO > >'89KLR650 > >'97Z50R (Nate's) > > They were still available as of 2/7/98. > Kawa part #99924-1080-55, retail $13.95. > Had my dealer on the phone just now. He > doesn't show it as being discontinued. > > Ron (is your couch lumpy?) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 22:03:43 EST From: Rcklr Subject: Re: (klr650) IMS tank.. Jeff, wrote my last entry before reading all of the mail. I guess you won't be wanting this tank. No biggie. I got it right, and I have it around figuring that if I should take a ride that will be pretty rough and I could damage the stock tank, I will install this one. Anyway, have a great one.... MN Ron ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 21:53:41 -0600 From: Robert Carreras Subject: Re:(klr650) side racks Jeff....Kurt....I installed Tim's side racks a few months ago and experienced the same thing. The upper bolt threaded tight before the rack was tight. However, I did'nt get 1/4 inch play, it was more like slight play (1/16th inch?). There was too much unthreaded area on the supplied bolt. I too leaned on it and got them snug. BoB...who spent a few confused hours on this subject...you're not alone. Kurt Simpson wrote: > > At 04:09 PM 3/28/98 -0700, you wrote: > > > > > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 14:59:03 -0700 (MST) > >From: Jeffrey P Moorbeck > >To: klr650@list.xmission.com > >Subject: side racks > > > >I just received a set of the driveline side racks - very nice looking > >units. One question on installation though: When I tighten the new > >60mmx8mm bolt in the luggage rack the threads bottom out in the existing > >nut before the side rack is actually tight against the luggage rack. So > >there is about a quarter inch of play in the side rack at the upper > >mounting bolt (hope this is making sense). Is this normal? Or do I need to > >remove the original nut for the side bolt of the luggage rack? > >-jeff moorbeck > > Jeff, this one has me stumped, and I even went out to my garage and looked > at them. So here come the stupid questions (stupid on my end), do you have > the racks mounted rightside up? You swapped the upper bolt for the upper > bolt in the passenger peg triangle right? You are using the supplied bolt > from driveline right? You aren't mixing that bolt with any from other > add-ons like Moose Handguards or bash plates. Sorry for the stupid > questions but mine butts up solid as a rock without any hesitation. I don't > remember swapping any nuts. Right back with some response, these are > excellent pieces and there is no reason you should suffer any anxiety from > the install. Meanwhile, I'll try to find my instructions to see if there is > anything I overlooked...after the Utah game however. > > GO UTES....GO TUBBY ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 21:07:44 -0800 From: bosozoku@olywa.net Subject: (klr650) rear suspension has anyone replaced their rear shock with an aftermarket model yet or had the stock one upgraded? I am curious what the outcomes have been. thanks - - Jules bosozoku@olywa.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 23:09:11 -0600 From: Jim Barthell Subject: Re: (klr650) rear suspension bosozoku@olywa.net wrote: > has anyone replaced their rear shock with an aftermarket model yet or had > the stock one upgraded? I am curious what the outcomes have been. I ordered a Works shock and called to check on it today... it ships on Tuesday, I'll let you know how it goes. - -- Jim Barthell - TX '97 'C-O-O-O-W'...asaki KiLleR 650 FSSNOC #2421 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 00:47:53 -0500 From: Thomas Simpson Subject: Re: (klr650) side racks (fwd) Jeffrey P Moorbeck wrote: > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 14:59:03 -0700 (MST) > From: Jeffrey P Moorbeck > To: klr650@list.xmission.com > Subject: side racks > > I just received a set of the driveline side racks - very nice looking > units Speaking of which...may I ask how much these puppies set you back? I am considering a set myself. - -Tom '96 KLR 650 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 06:16:08 -0500 From: temsley@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: (klr650) Tire pressure again. and again. "No, it was the tires or the truck. I chose the tires. Now, if the driver was female..." Good choice Mike, I'm still trying to get a COBRA pipe for the UPS truck. Todd ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 06:24:51 -0500 From: temsley@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: (klr650) ?KLR's in general and Ron's too true postscript! Joan, Get a KLR and we will kick out Ron and let you in. I'm sure you are cuter than he is. Todd (Too lame to be funny by the end) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 06:33:23 -0500 From: temsley@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: (klr650) side racks (fwd) Put some washers in there or get a shorter bolt. No way it should be that loose. If they wanted play, the bolt provided with the rack would have a thick shaft and smaller threads. (like me with shorts on) Todd (anybody get that?) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 06:36:57 -0500 From: temsley@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: (klr650) klr cooling I had a Z50, circa 1974. I hope Nate is saved from a life of this motorcycle addiction. It is my Hell. Todd (Getting my fix, in the 80's today) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 06:43:10 -0500 From: temsley@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR650 plus and minus Ron, Let you grandson answer your mail you old fart. Todd (still smiling) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 06:48:09 -0500 From: temsley@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR650 plus and minus Jim, "But the '97 is as smooth as my Goldwing ever was." Did your 'Wing have all it's spark plugs? Just kidding. Todd ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 04:43:51 PST From: "Roger Fastring" Subject: (klr650) nre klr650 owner KLR Folks, I just bought my first motorcyly yesterday (pick it up Monday)a 1995 KLR 650. I'm REAL into off the beaten path travel, but its always been in 4x4's. Now that I have the moto of my dreams (wanted one for along time, had to wait to move out of the parents house and graduate college...) I have some questions. FIRST: Is there any aftermarket replacement plastic fairing stuff? The bike is great, but the colors are gay. Its that teal, purple no testosterone look, not for me. I have read alot of the websites, and it seems AERCIBIS (sp?) makes some but I didnt find it o listed on thier site or any catalog. SECOND: having done all my travel in big 4x4's, I am used to caring alot of "stuff" and need saddle bags. I would like info on hard or soft bags. I like the waterproof ones on the KLR650 main page but alot of pics of adventure riders have aluminum or metal lockable cases, what gives? THIRD: I found a page with a guy who carried his dog on a rack in the back, but cant find anyone who sells that, will I have to have something like that made? Toledo (my german shep) goes with me when I travel. Maybe a long travel suspension off road sidecar? Anyone make such a monster? Thanks for any info, cant wait to do a ride into Mexico with it! (Anyone doing that Copper Canyon Trip in OCT, I'm thinking about twisting my budget and...) Rog ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 07:51:20 -0600 From: Patrick Brand Subject: (klr650) [Fwd: Gregory Fraizer m/c trip] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------127490C5A2F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am sending this in as a novelty item. It's about riding motorcycles. - --------------127490C5A2F Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: p_vglaves@cjnetworks.com Received: from topeka.cjnetworks.com (topeka.cjnetworks.com [206.52.158.250]) by grasshopper.grasshoppernet.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id FAA26125 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 05:19:45 -0600 Received: from Home (Port231.cjnetworks.com [199.240.71.7]) by topeka.cjnetworks.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA11872; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 05:16:17 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 05:16:17 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199803291116.FAA11872@topeka.cjnetworks.com> X-Sender: p_vglaves@mail.cjnetworks.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pbrand@grasshopper.grasshoppernet.com, boom@topeka.cjnetworks.com From: Paul or Voni Glaves Subject: Gregory Fraizer m/c trip X-UIDL: c39a1652ea12a2a4c1809fc39744ec37 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 > > Venezula To Montana on Tired R80 GS > By GregFrazier@yahoo.com > > I am back home in Montana. 31,000 miles ago (52,000 kilometers) >I left here and wondered what it would be like when I got home. It is >pretty much the same. No dog, no wife, no kids and lots of little >things to do to my house, bike and me... > Venezula was pretty much of a snoozer after having survived the >jungle and drivers of Brazil. I was able to use my limited Spanish >again, there were Berger King's and I even saw people playing baseball >(the rest of South America played soccer). > I finished up in Caracas just days before Carnival. At the >airport I found a freight forwarder who promised "No problem, no >problem!" and a price of $225.00 to ship my bike to Miami, plus $200 >for him and $75.00 for having dangerous goods (ie: gas tank). So I >said fine, layed around Caracas for a few days while Carnival closed >everything down, then took me and the bike to the airport for our >flight to Miami. > No Problem, no problem by this little shitbird at Caracas actually >maeans: You must put your bike in a crate, not like I told you last >week when I said a crate was not needed; we will have to have your >bike taken apart for a drug inspection (including letting air out of >the tires; and , "Oh yes, byt the way, the price is now $600 for your >bike instead of the $225.00. But do not worry, your bike will go out >at 6:00 in the morning, just like we promised." This lying little >shitbird is someone I will deal with in the future, he just does not >know me very well. Like Arnold says in the movie "I will be back." > My bike arrived in Miami 7 days behind me, but only after I found >a big shot in the airline company to make a few calls to Caracas from >Miami. While this was far quicker than riding up through Central >America, and cheaper, it still had my pubic hairs tweaked more than a >little bit and they are still not unwound. > I uncrated my bike in Miami, dumped the crate in the dumpster >(actually what I did in Caracas was put the bike on a pallet, tie it >down and throw a blue plastic cover over it and called that my >"crate". ) Then I rolled up to Daytona and Bike Week to connect with >a few of my friends from Germany who had planned to meet me there. > After 2 days in Harlay Davidson country at Daytona I had had >enough of all the motorcyclists who had trailered their bikes into >Bike Week from as far away as Miami, so I left for the Keys as I could >see the weather in Montana and Colorado was not warm. > In the south of Florida I got back to American civilization and >enjoyed things like shopping at K Mart, hamburgers and newspapers. >Then I forgot where I was, went through one of the famous "speed >traps" is some dirtwater Florida burg and was given my first speeding >ticket in 30,000 miles. Welcome Back To America! > That was enough of Florida for me, so I put the GS on the >Interstates and rolled back to Denver. InDallas, Texas, I saw on the >news that a storm was rolling into Denver, so the last day I rode from >sunrise to 10:00PM (900 miles or 1,500 kilometers) to try to beat the >snow storm. In Amarillo, Texas it was snowing, as it was in Southern >Colorado. But it was really snow big piles of the white shit when I >got to about 25 miles south of Denver. For the last 25 miles I watch >cars and truck slide off the interstate and crash into each other in >front of and around me. It was the most dangerous 25 miles of my >whole trip!!!! > The next morning a foot of snow was on top of my bike and Denver >was shut down. Businesses were closed, goverment offices were not >doing any business (do they ever) and the streets were covered in >about two feet of snow. I was snowed in! > So I hung around Denver for a few days until I could get out, >then made my way back to Montana. > I am at the end of my trip now. The BMW knows it . This morning >when I went out to start it it would not start. The battery was dead. > There was not even enough juice in it to get lights to come on. It >was dead and the motorcycle was tired, very tired. > It did a good job. I did not do anything other than change oil >and filters after I left Panama. Not once did I take off the valve >covers in that time. It went through 3 front tires and 4 1/2 rear >tires. I crashed it a couple of times and it fell over on its own a >couple of times. I had two flat tires and hit numerous potholes and >raod trash. Once it was buried to the cylinders in mud and once it >and I went into the jungle, airborne. All in all it was treated worse >than it should have been, but it kept on ticking. I guess when it got >back to Montana it said "Enough, just let me lay here and die." > Well, I can not let it die here, so I will get a fresh battery for >it, maybe some new tires, a couple of new crash bars, change its oils >and spark plugs, adjust the valves, clean the air filter and maybe >even wash it. Then it will be ready for the next adventure. Heck, >it only has about 250,000 kilometers on it, it is still new......... > Me, I am resting up, reading my bills and getting ready for the >next leg of my world tour. > But I will tell you, if someone were to ask me to make another run >to the end of the earth this fall or winter I think both me and the >motorcycle would be willing to do it all again. No, I do not think >that, I know that. Maybe I will see you at the next Motorcycle >Christmas Party in Ushuaia, at the southern tip of South America. > >Gregory > >_________________________________________________________ >DO YOU YAHOO!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > - --------------127490C5A2F-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 08:54:48 EST From: K650dsn Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR650 plus and minus In a message dated 98-03-28 19:41:25 EST, you write: << The Kawasaki KLR 650 seems to be a good choice for me. My main concern is the vibration on this kind of bike. Is it acceptable for a guy used to a Magna v45 ? >> Having owned a Honda V4, I can tell you that a KLR650 and any other single for that matter, will seem like a paint shaker to you. I must be immune to vibration, though, because it never really seems to bother me. Gino ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 09:00:08 EST From: K650dsn Subject: Re: (klr650) rear suspension In a message dated 98-03-29 00:08:05 EST, you write: << has anyone replaced their rear shock with an aftermarket model yet or had the stock one upgraded? I am curious what the outcomes have been. >> I'm hoping to do that today with the Progressive. Let you know how it works out. Gino ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 08:36:12 -0500 From: Bill Haycock Subject: Re: (klr650) side racks (fwd) Kurt Simpson wrote: > > At 04:09 PM 3/28/98 -0700, you wrote: > > > > > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 14:59:03 -0700 (MST) > >From: Jeffrey P Moorbeck > >To: klr650@list.xmission.com > >Subject: side racks > > > >I just received a set of the driveline side racks - very nice looking > >units. One question on installation though: When I tighten the new > >60mmx8mm bolt in the luggage rack the threads bottom out in the existing > >nut before the side rack is actually tight against the luggage rack. So > >there is about a quarter inch of play in the side rack at the upper > >mounting bolt (hope this is making sense). Is this normal? Or do I need to > >remove the original nut for the side bolt of the luggage rack? > >-jeff moorbeck > > Jeff, this one has me stumped, and I even went out to my garage and looked > at them. So here come the stupid questions (stupid on my end), do you have > the racks mounted rightside up? You swapped the upper bolt for the upper > bolt in the passenger peg triangle right? You are using the supplied bolt > from driveline right? You aren't mixing that bolt with any from other > add-ons like Moose Handguards or bash plates. Sorry for the stupid > questions but mine butts up solid as a rock without any hesitation. I don't > remember swapping any nuts. Right back with some response, these are > excellent pieces and there is no reason you should suffer any anxiety from > the install. Meanwhile, I'll try to find my instructions to see if there is > anything I overlooked...after the Utah game however. > > GO UTES....GO TUBBY They should fit tight the first time! If I remember the instructions, you take the upper bolt out of the passenger handhold rail and use it in the upper bolt hole on the passenger foot bracket. Then you use the supplied longer bolt on the upper handhold rail with the rack installed. Should fit perfectly and tighten easily! Bill ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V1 #39 ***************************