From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V1 #70 Reply-To: klr650 Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Tuesday, May 5 1998 Volume 01 : Number 070 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 22:55:24 EDT From: K650dsn Subject: Re: (klr650) fork tubes in triple clamp? In a message dated 98-05-04 19:39:30 EDT, pbrand@grasshopper.grasshoppernet.com writes: << Called the dealer and they said "Aw, what ever works!" Does anyone know for sure where the tubes are suppose to be? thanks tom >> The correct position for the fork tubes on a KLR is with the top of the fork tube flush with the top of the triple clamp. The cap that is screwed ontop of the fork tube is all that should be above the triple clamp. Some dealer push the fork tubes up to lower the seat height on the KLR. This is not correct. Gino ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 21:21:28 -0600 From: Kurt Simpson Subject: Re: (klr650) Jesse Panniers At 08:39 PM 5/4/1998 -0400, you wrote: >Just received a set of black powder-coated Al Jesse panniers and am very >impressed with the design and detail of the boxes and mounts. The right >hand pannier is nicely form-wrapped close to the exhaust. Delivery took >slightly over one month, cost $720 plus another $70 for optional wire >racks, and shipping via UPS ground was included. Can't find the key yet, >so I gotta call Jesse and ask. I'm stoked. I'm green... Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 21:30:55 -0600 From: "Joshua Sammons" Subject: (klr650) Raising the KLR I'm 6ft. 7in. and weigh about 240. I was wondering if there is any way to raise the seat height of my 92' KLR 650. I've been looking at replacing the rear shock but it a bit to expencive for me at this time. Any suggestions? Josh ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 21:18:03 -0600 From: "Joshua Sammons" Subject: RE: (klr650) KTM SuperTanker - -----Original Message----- From: owner-klr650@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-klr650@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Erik Snider Sent: Monday, May 04, 1998 9:58 AM To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Subject: (klr650) KTM SuperTanker I know this is not KLR specific, but it is dual-sport and interesting none the less. I was flipping through one of the more recent MX rags at the grocery store yesterday and they had an article on an American who raced with Team KTM in the Paris-Dakkar. They had a profile shot of the KTM (660 Adventure I think) the thing looked like a super tanker. It had a HUGE main tank and dual seat tanks. What was really nice is the orange lets you see the fuel level. The bike oozed independence. What gas station, we don't need no steenking gas station. Check it out, definitely the extreme end of dual sporting. I was thinking about selling my 92' KLR for a new KTM Adventure Bike. The version sold here is really a 620. Here is the whole model name: KTM 620EGS-E Adventure. The differences between the rally version and the street version, are minimal. The biggest difference is the displacement, also the exhausts are dual and mounted further down on the bike (I have know idea why?). The digital instruments are really cool. Along with all of the basics the digital display can be upgraded to incorporate GPS. The optional saddle bags are cool too. You can mount a couple of spare tires around them. the bad part- $7498.00 and you don't get to have the wrap-around gas tanks. Not too expensive, I rather have the KTM than a new BMW F650. Josh 92' KLR 650 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 20:47:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Rex Hefferan Subject: (klr650) Moose Skid Plates - the saga continues Listers, I called MAW again and got a 4th back order date for Moose Skid plates. I also confirmed that if an item is on back order for over 30 days, it will be cancelled unless you request otherwise. The current expected date is 5/17. I'm going to check elsewhere. Rex (missing my mythical Moose merchandise) _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 21:57:02 +0000 From: Alex Jomarron Subject: (klr650) the 1st 700 miles Finally! I am ready to take the KLR in for its first service. Sunday found me north of the border near Madison, Wisconsin for the Slimy Crud run. It's a pub crawl on wheels. Back roads all the way back to the stateline. One cage turning left right in front of me was kind enough to stop halfway across my lane allowing me the narrowest of escape routes. I've NEVER been that close to having a wreck before. I'm glad I didn't test how waterproof the inside of my Firstgear pants were! Things I've noticed: Around 3000 rpm the bike surges rather noticably. Front brakes need help. At 80 mph in traffic (dirty air), the front end wants to achieve lift. In no traffic conditions, it was not noticable. The bike is verrrrrry flickable in the corners. I'm getting 42 mpg thus far. Each time I ride it, it grows on me. In addition to the service I ordered Acerbis Rally Gaurds and Spoilers (purple & white; fashion statement!), steel braided line for frt brake, and am now considering a Scott Oiler, a Givi bag for the rack, and I'm undecided between Rev Pack saddlebags, or the dry bags from Riderwarehouse. Oh yeah, the side protectors from Driveline, and a skidplate fromeither Moose, White Bros. Christmas in May!! It's only money.............. ;-) Alex Jomarron Oak Park, IL 88 BMW K75S 98 Kawasaki KLR 650 The most expensive thing I own is my photo album! ".....I could go east, I could go west, it was all for me to decide............." -Bob Seger ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 22:01:06 +0000 From: Alex Jomarron Subject: (klr650) Scottoiler Does anyone have any experience with the Scottoiler? It is a British made (imagine an English product that leaks!) chainoiler that operates using the vacuum off the carb, dripping 1 to 2 drops of oil per minute. Pretty nifty gadget. Alex Jomarron Oak Park, IL 88 BMW K75S 98 Kawasaki KLR 650 The most expensive thing I own is my photo album! ".....I could go east, I could go west, it was all for me to decide............." -Bob Seger ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 21:46:07 -0700 From: "Kathleen" Subject: Re: (klr650) fork tubes in triple clamp? Gino states: <> How about for those of us that have the lowering kit installed? In this case the front was lowered to balance out the back; true? I hope. And by the way, how are you doing, Gino? I know I am making an assumption here, but with your knee all scraped up and likely to remain scarred, be glad that you are not female or a bicycle racer that shaves their legs! Feeling better already, aren'cha? Kathleen (wondering if you picked up the bike) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 00:55:32 -0700 From: Tom Simpson Subject: Re: (klr650) Stock Corbin... At 12:54 PM 5/4/98 -0600, Kurt Simpson wrote: >With all the posts about modified Corbins I wonder if I >could a word from anyone (all) those who have unmodified >Corbins WITH THE DIP. I know Bill Haycock says his is >unmodified...I could really use the reduction in seat height >w/o the lowering kit. Mines stock. It usualy works fine. The cover is starting to crack all to hell at 2.5 years old. Thats a little early in my book and its going to Sargents (not Corbin) for a rebuild. - -Tom '96 KLR 650 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 01:01:22 -0700 From: Tom Simpson Subject: RE: (klr650) KTM SuperTanker >the bad part- $7498.00 and you don't get to have the wrap-around gas tanks. >Not too expensive, I rather have the KTM than a new BMW F650. > >Josh >92' KLR 650 Hrm...given KTMs rep for miserable dealer parts support, Id pass. The Funduro is proving to be a very durable and reliable motorcycle. - -Tom '96 KLR 650 (still the better bargain by far) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 01:06:23 -0700 From: Tom Simpson Subject: Re: (klr650) Cure for sludgy clutch lever pull? At 03:19 PM 5/4/98 -0700, omegacolor@sssnet.com wrote: >Any recommendations for an aftermarket cluth cable that would >provide a cleaner lever pull for my recently acquired KLR650? >Are there any hydraulic options available? > >Tried working some graphite into the cable & that seemed to help a >little. ... It seems that KLRs just eat clutch cables, Mines on its third one in 23k miles now. - -Tom ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 01:28:02 EDT From: Cloudhid Subject: Re: (klr650) Raising the KLR In a message dated 5/4/98 8:33:18 PM, sammons@laplaza.org wrote: >I'm 6ft. 7in. and weigh about 240. I was wondering if there is any >way to raise the seat height of my 92' KLR 650. I've been looking at >replacing the rear shock but it a bit to expencive for me at this time. >Any suggestions? Josh Have you tried replacing the stock rear 17" tire/wheel, with 18" ? Should raise you at least another 1/2". This would also give you a wider selection of tires, and theoretically extend tire life. (You'd have to change sprockets to maintain your stock rpm thingy;-). You could also remove the stock saddle cover and replace the old foam with new, (even add a thin layer), and restaple the old cover, (or get a new cover). Finally, the highway pegs from Tim at Drive Line, won't add any height, but at least you can stretch out sometimes. Highway Pegs for the KLR650 Ron <-------always reaching too far) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 01:47:39 -0400 From: "Robert frey" Subject: Re: (klr650) KTM SuperTanker This may not be ite specific (but my son has a 93 KLR) I ride a KTM 620 RXC. Although the Rally Model(Yes, IT IS AVAILABLE STREET LEGAL IN THE US!) has a big tank, the stockers come with a 2.5 that will get ya maybe 70 miles depending. The difference between a KLR and a RXC is great. The KTM is THE OFF-ROAD RIDE! Get it on the street and you'll be screaming for mercy in 15 miles. Man, I love my bike... - -----Original Message----- From: Erik Snider To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Date: Monday, May 04, 1998 11:58 AM Subject: (klr650) KTM SuperTanker >I know this is not KLR specific, but it is dual-sport and interesting none >the less. > >I was flipping through one of the more recent MX rags at the grocery store >yesterday and they had an article on an American who raced with Team KTM in >the Paris-Dakkar. They had a profile shot of the KTM (660 Adventure I >think) the thing looked like a super tanker. It had a HUGE main tank and >dual seat tanks. What was really nice is the orange lets you see the fuel >level. The bike oozed independence. What gas station, we don't need no >steenking gas station. Check it out, definitely the extreme end of dual >sporting. > >P.S. About filtering the list. Does Eudora lite have filters? I use >Eudora 4.0, my filter is set to = klr650@lists.xmission.com >the message is then sent to my KLR650 mail box. > >Erik Snider >Purchasing Card Administrator >AF208C4 >619-651-0217 > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 23:46:35 -0600 From: "Joshua Sammons" Subject: (klr650) Seat Height - -----Original Message----- From: owner-klr650@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-klr650@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tom Simpson Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 1998 2:06 AM To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: (klr650) Cure for sludgy clutch lever pull? At 03:19 PM 5/4/98 -0700, omegacolor@sssnet.com wrote: >Any recommendations for an aftermarket cluth cable that would >provide a cleaner lever pull for my recently acquired KLR650? >It seems that KLRs just eat clutch cables, Mines on its third one in 23k >miles now. - -Tom It's funny you guys mention the clutch cable today. While riding today I noticed mine needs to be replaced too. About raising the seat height, I just looked at my rear tire, it appears to be an 18in. I'll check again in the morning when I'm fully awake. Don't get me wrong, but when I can stand up and have 2-3in between me and the top of the seat, while being flat footed, I figure a little extra height might not hurt. As long as I can get it inexpensively. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 01:52:34 -0400 From: "Robert frey" Subject: Re: (klr650) SuperTrapp IDS problems Rick, I have an E.A.R system on my RXC620 and have never had any problems. I have been a Supertrapper since my '84 GPz750, '87 EX500, '89 Transalp. (Idid run an FMF on my KTM 125E/XC race bike!) No problems in all those years. Sorry you got a bum unit man... - -----Original Message----- From: Rcklr To: CameronC@msigroup.com Cc: klr650@lists.xmission.com Date: Monday, May 04, 1998 1:52 PM Subject: Re: (klr650) SuperTrapp IDS problems >Interesting story. I have an E.A.R. series with six bolts (supposedly an >improvement over the old 5 bolt system) holding the disks in place and I only >have 5 doing the job as one stripped out early. Although I have no need to >replace the SuperTrapp at this time, when I do it will be with something else >as I hate to have "cheap" products on my bikes. I was looking at the IDS >product earlier, but I wondered about this very same happening. I would be >interested in hearing from you Cobra owners out there as to your experiences. > >Quiet is good, power is better, and quiet POWER is BEST!! > >MN Ron >'93 KLR 650 >'93 Seca II (Wife's) > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 01:56:26 -0400 From: "Robert frey" Subject: Re: (klr650) Kiliminjaro Jacket Man, what's with this kiliminjaro stuff? Y'all need to support the manufacturers that SUPPORT OUR SPORT. Try a MOOSE Off-Road jacket or maybe one by MSR. These companies donate and market a lot of time and products to off-road and dual-sport events. Support those who support us!!!!!! - -----Original Message----- From: Jim Barthell To: Kovach E Cc: PAT_HENSLEY@HP-USA-om32.om.hp.com ; klr650@lists.xmission.com Date: Monday, May 04, 1998 2:37 PM Subject: Re: (klr650) Kiliminjaro Jacket >Kovach E wrote: > >> I believe the brother was called the dakar jacket and can still be had through competition from OHIO mail order being that it is hein gerick something or other and not the first gear line. the first gear line can only be purchased off the rack. >> cio evan..... > >No, that is the cousin ;-) it is leather and made by Hein Gerike. This is a First Gear jacket whos look and feel are identical to the Kiliminjaro but in a shorter cut... the bike shop is closed Monday or I'd get the name for you. > >-- >Jim Barthell - TX > >'97 'C-O-O-O-W'...asaki KiLleR 650 >FSSNOC #2421 > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 02:03:45 -0400 From: "Robert frey" Subject: Re: (klr650) KTM SuperTanker Re: Comment about KTM price and parts availability. That was the old days, back in the 80s when KTM support was lacking. Parts now have a 2 - 5 day turn around and are priced the same as the oriental bikes. Support and great machines is why KTM is the fastest growing bike in the US. #1 off road with thousands of loyal followers. Why modify when you can get it stock! As for the BMW650. That ain't no steeenking bike to take off road! - -----Original Message----- From: Tom Simpson To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Date: Tuesday, May 05, 1998 1:01 AM Subject: RE: (klr650) KTM SuperTanker >>the bad part- $7498.00 and you don't get to have the wrap-around gas tanks. >>Not too expensive, I rather have the KTM than a new BMW F650. >> >>Josh >>92' KLR 650 > > > > Hrm...given KTMs rep for miserable dealer parts support, >Id pass. The Funduro is proving to be a very durable and reliable >motorcycle. > > >-Tom >'96 KLR 650 >(still the better bargain by far) > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 02:19:00 EDT From: Cloudhid Subject: Re: (klr650) Kiliminjaro Jacket..(at least I got the helmet) In a message dated 5/4/98 11:01:05 PM, rlfrey@gte.net wrote: >Man, what's with this kiliminjaro stuff? Y'all need to support the manu->facturers that SUPPORT OUR SPORT. Try a MOOSE Off-Road jacket or >maybe one by MSR. These companies donate and market a lot of time and >products to off-road and dual-sport events. Support those who support us!! I love my MSR System 6 helmet, but my altruism ends where I hit the pavement. The only support I'll be relying on then is what's between me and the ground. I'd like to hear from someone with abrasion/impact experience with all the jackets/suits that have been discussed here. (and try not to make me feel too bad about my Darien Aerostitch;-). Ron <--who is still searching for the (ktm620) listserver ;> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 23:27:44 -0700 From: SAM DILLINGHAM Subject: (klr650) Bash Plates... I need your input! << Jim Barthell wrote: It is just too convienient when I stop and need to be able to lock up my gear. I could expand the capacity of the standard fuel tank, but the bike is already kinda top heavy and I'm concerned that increasing the tank size by 4.9 gallons...>> Jim, Are you familiar with Ron Major's modification to the ST1100? I'm not sure if the KLR subframe. etc. could support it, or if it would put too much weight on the back, but since you don't ride off road it might work. If you're not familiar his design, he placed the tank approximately where the rear license plate bracket goes. He managed to situate it height wise, so that it was gravity flow in AND out,from/to main tank . No pumps, no extra tanks to remember to fill.Very clean, elegant design. -Sam Dillingham '97 KLR650 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 00:03:53 -0700 From: SAM DILLINGHAM Subject: Re: (klr650) Kiliminjaro Jacket <> I've occasionally seen them in stock at: Edwards Cycle & Used Parts 13220 N Cave Creek Rd, Phoenix, AZ 85022-5134 602-971-1630 This late in the season... (in Phoenix?;-) Good Hunting! -Sam Dillingham '97KLR650 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 04:21:04 EDT From: Cloudhid Subject: Re: (klr650) SuperTrapp IDS problems/questions In a message dated 5/4/98 10:53:01 AM, Rcklr@aol.com wrote: >...Although I have no need to replace the SuperTrapp at this time, >when I do it will be with something else as I hate to have "cheap" >products on my bikes. MN Ron I've grown very fond of the stock exhaust notes. When or if it starts a farting budgie, I'll be looking to replace it. (I may do it sooner just to reduce weight). So here are my questions. 1) Any news on the Big Guns exhaust, the one with the header pipe? (or is this another kle400;-) 2) Anyone have experience with the Staintune that Mr_T pointed out? (looks great, but at over $306US, it's a 1/3 more than Supertrapp). Staintune Exhaust Systems About Page 3) Cobra....how much are they and do you have to repack them? Ron (waiting for the sermons from the congregation) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 05:03:00 EDT From: Cloudhid Subject: (klr650) Staintune Price Correction In a message dated 5/5/98 1:21:04 AM, I wrote: (snip) >2) Anyone have experience with the Staintune that Mr_T pointed out? > (looks great, but at over $306US, it's a 1/3 more than Supertrapp). Wow. The $475 quote might be US$ _not_ AU$........ At that price, it better blow more than just my exhaust. Ron (who on second thought, may warm up to a farting budgie sound) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 06:16:29 -0400 From: Bill Wright Subject: Re: (klr650) cleaview windshield Roy, Keep us posted on the handlebar mount, we are interested in whether or not you need to remove the stock shield. Bill Wright Hotlanta, GA. 98KLR650 - 7239 miles Roy Cope wrote: > I have just mail ordered the parts for a handle bar mount windshield to play > around with. > > Roy Cope 96KLR > > >Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 09:52:52 -0600 > >From: Kurt Simpson > >Subject: Re: (klr650) cleaview windshield > > > >Todd, I have the Clearview 7" with Stealth edging, Bill Haycock runs a 4" > >Clearview. I have no problems with my shield, it helps a ton, the wind is > >now at the top of my helmet. The flex I am talking about is the whole > >combination of the fairing and shield. It flexes at idle and with a hard > >bump, but if I was a better rider I wouldn't notice because my eyes would > >be on where I am going instead of the big sand wash below me...Ask for > >Craig at Clearview. BTW Roy Cope runs a trimmed Rifle and is on the list... > > > >Kurt > > > > > >At 07:49 AM 5/2/1998 PDT, Todd J. Kuss wrote: > >>A day or two ago, someone was listing various equipment with their comments > >>on how it performed at the Moab rally, the question I have was regarding > >>the clearview windshield, (something like plus 11 inches or more?) > >>Anyway, it was described as though it shaked a little. I ride thrity > >>miles to work, much of it 70mph+ on the freeway, and the stock > >>windshield is all I have. I am interested in whether or not the clearview > >>helped substantially on the highway, and what height would be the best. > >>Was the clearview too high?? if there is a "best of both worlds" height, > >>how high is it, and are customized heights available. I am convinced > >>that the stock windshield is far better than nothing, I am interested in > >>better wind protection , but I wouldn't want to mount something that > >>doesn't work off road. > >>can someone comment? > >> > >>Really enjoy the discussion guys (and gals), > >> > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 08:04:19 -0400 From: PAT_HENSLEY@HP-USA-om32.om.hp.com Subject: Re[2]: (klr650) Kiliminjaro Jacket - --openmail-part-0f1a0507-00000001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="Re:" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Re:" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Actually, I think I like the Moose jackets better. Does the Kiliminjaro Jacket have body armor built into it? Thanks, Pat ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: (klr650) Kiliminjaro Jacket Author: Non-HP-rlfrey (rlfrey@gte.net) at HP-USA/o2=mimegw4 Date: 5/5/98 1:56 AM Man, what's with this kiliminjaro stuff? Y'all need to support the manufacturers that SUPPORT OUR SPORT. Try a MOOSE Off-Road jacket or maybe one by MSR. These companies donate and market a lot of time and products to off-road and dual-sport events. Support those who support us!!!!!! - -----Original Message----- From: Jim Barthell To: Kovach E Cc: PAT_HENSLEY@HP-USA-om32.om.hp.com ; klr650@lists.xmission.com Date: Monday, May 04, 1998 2:37 PM Subject: Re: (klr650) Kiliminjaro Jacket - --openmail-part-0f1a0507-00000001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="1.txt" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="1.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: from palrel1.hp.com (palrel1.hp.com [15.81.168.10]) by i3125om4.atl.hp.com with ESMTP (8.7.1/8.7.3 TIS 5.0 Openmail) id BAA17191 for ; Tue, 5 May 1998 01:58:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp2.mailsrvcs.net (smtp2.gte.net [207.115.153.31]) by palrel1.hp.com (8.8.6/8.8.5tis) with ESMTP id WAA09120 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 22:58:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from default (1Cust5.tnt2.new-port-richey.fl.gt.uu.net [208.255.241.5]) by smtp2.mailsrvcs.net with SMTP id AAA15711; Tue, 5 May 1998 00:55:17 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <002f01bd77ea$8de3a180$05f1ffd0@default> From: "Robert frey" To: "Jim Barthell" , "Kovach E" Cc: , Subject: Re: (klr650) Kiliminjaro Jacket Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 01:56:26 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 - --openmail-part-0f1a0507-00000001-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 08:18:42 From: Robert Kaub Subject: (klr650) Fuel Tank For the discussion on the undercarriage fuel tank: Where are you gonna put the fuel pump? Thanks. Bob Kaub SUNY Binghamton Watson School Student Shop PO Box 6000 Binghamton, NY 13902 607-777-2715 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 22:24:50 +1000 From: Ted Palmer Subject: Re: (klr650) fork tubes in triple clamp? Patrick Brand wrote: > When I got my 97 from the dealer the fork tubes came thru > the triple clamp about 2 ". > Mike from dual star says the reason I'm having trouble with > the center stand is the tubes are suppose to be clear to the > top of the clamp. I won't doubt that. When I bought my '85, the forks were in that position. I was having a bit of trouble getting used to the steering, and was sliding down the seat under braking. A few weeks later, at about 4AM, after re-reading the magazine road test and staring at the brochure and owner's manual, it occured to me that all the pictures shows the forks flush with the top clamp. I reset the forks to the right position and all was well (except that during the test ride an hour later, I dropped the bike in a gravel carpark and bent the front brake lever). I suspect the bikes come out of the crate with the forks high and lazy pre-delivery leave them there. Mister_T - -- \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\ | RC17 KLR600 Roces BCN FreeBSD 2.2.5-R NT4W (ugh) | | tedp[at]replicant[dot]apana[dot]org[dot]au | \|_________________________________________________________________| ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 08:21:32 -0500 From: Jim Barthell Subject: Re: (klr650) Fuel Tank On the design I drew up last night I put it on a rear facing side of the fuel cell. Why is there something to be concerned about??? Talk to me? - -- Jim Barthell - TX '97 'C-O-O-O-W'...asaki KiLleR 650 FSSNOC #2421 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 09:43:04 -0400 From: Cameron Cole Subject: RE: (klr650) Kiliminjaro Jacket..(at least I got the helmet) Are you referring to dumping on the dirt or the street? On the dirt, I have taken a hundred or so spills and it is all about impact. I now use plastic chest protectors and foam padding at the hips, elbows, and knees. Also, a good Arai dirt bike helmet, thor 457 gloves, and Alpinestar (there is no substitute) boots. If the area is particularly nasty, I use knee braces. I just use a jersey most of the time, but if the weather is cold I dawn my Moose jacket. I have had some serious spills, but when wearing the listed gear walked away from all of them sans some cracked ribs. On the street, leather is the only way to go. I know condura is great, but as for me 1.3mm leather with body armor is it. I used Z Custom Leather for my jacket and gloves. I wear jeans along with foam/carbon fiber pads on the hips and knees. I also use an Arai helmet with Alpinestars (really there is no substitute) boots. Fortunately, I have never been in an accident on the road (except that head on with a truck when I was 13, no gear though). When I do go down, I am confident that road rash won't be the worst of my problems. > -----Original Message----- > From: Cloudhid [SMTP:Cloudhid@aol.com] > Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 1998 2:19 AM > To: rlfrey@gte.net > Cc: klr650@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: (klr650) Kiliminjaro Jacket..(at least I got the > helmet) > > In a message dated 5/4/98 11:01:05 PM, rlfrey@gte.net wrote: > >Man, what's with this kiliminjaro stuff? Y'all need to support the > manu->facturers that SUPPORT OUR SPORT. Try a MOOSE Off-Road jacket or > > >maybe one by MSR. These companies donate and market a lot of time and > > >products to off-road and dual-sport events. Support those who support > us!! > > I love my MSR System 6 helmet, but my altruism ends where I > hit the pavement. The only support I'll be relying on then is > what's between me and the ground. I'd like to hear from someone > with abrasion/impact experience with all the jackets/suits > that have been discussed here. (and try not to make me feel > too bad about my Darien Aerostitch;-). > Ron <--who is still searching for the (ktm620) listserver ;> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 09:48:35 -0400 From: Cameron Cole Subject: RE: (klr650) Hi, all The throttle grip came off like a champ, but the left grip was a pain. They really glued that sucker on there. I tried an exacto knife, but finally found the perfect tool. A steak knife works great. I just used a cheap one and sawed off the grip in parts. Took about five minutes. I did leave a little bit of the rubber from the old grip so the Pro Gel grips fit snug. I used epoxy for the glue. I figure if I need to change the grips again, I will just whip out the old steak knife. > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Redwine [SMTP:mclajones@worldnet.att.net] > Sent: Monday, May 04, 1998 9:44 PM > To: klr650@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: (klr650) Hi, all > > Jean Philippe Bagel wrote: > > > > how did you remove the hand grips? I want to do it as well but they > seem > > rather well glued together... > > > > -JP > > > > Hello Jean, This may not be the answer you need but I cut the grips > off with the help of my trusty Exacto knife. I was doing a grip change > along with adding the 4/0 cable to the bars. You may try heating your > grips with a hair drier to loosen them some, if your needing to safe > keep your grips. Also when reinstalling them spray the insides of the > grips with a little hair spray it makes great glue :) > > Mikey R. > > 90 KLR 650 > 95 BMW R100-GS/PD > 84 BMW R80 RT ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 09:01:17 -0500 From: Jim Robinson Subject: RE: (klr650) KTM SuperTanker At 01:01 AM 5/5/98 -0700, you wrote: > > Hrm...given KTMs rep for miserable dealer parts support, >Id pass. The Funduro is proving to be a very durable and reliable >motorcycle. > Tom, I recently spotted a crack in the starter flange on my Adventure Rally. This was on a Sunday. Tuesday I had the new part installed by the dealer. Doesn't sound 'miserable' to me. The F650 and the Adventure Rally are very different bikes. The six inches of travel on the F650 hardly compares to the thirteen inches of travel on the KTM. I have both scoots. The F650 is no off road bike. Jim Robinson Spring Hill, Kansas ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 09:51:58 -0400 From: Cameron Cole Subject: RE: (klr650) Cure for sludgy clutch lever pull? I am assuming Tom is correct since he is a knowledgeable guy. However, in my experience clutch cables usually get good mileage when they are just a little loose. Over-tighten or keep them very loose and they burn out quickly. I also keep the lever mount loose as well. > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Simpson [SMTP:bullet@scsn.net] > Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 1998 4:06 AM > To: klr650@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: (klr650) Cure for sludgy clutch lever pull? > > At 03:19 PM 5/4/98 -0700, omegacolor@sssnet.com wrote: > >Any recommendations for an aftermarket cluth cable that would > >provide a cleaner lever pull for my recently acquired KLR650? > >Are there any hydraulic options available? > > > >Tried working some graphite into the cable & that seemed to help a > >little. > > > > ... > > > It seems that KLRs just eat clutch cables, Mines on its third > one in 23k > miles now. > > -Tom > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 09:59:34 -0400 From: Stuart Heaslet Subject: (klr650) NKLR Gino's leg hair Kathleen: Actually, shaving one's legs helps the healing process after suffering extreme road rash. Hair complicates everything. But you won't catch me talking about it in mixed, leather-clad company. ;-) Stuart >...And by the way, how are you doing, Gino? I know I am making an assumption >here, but with your knee all scraped up and likely to remain scarred, be >glad that you are not female or a bicycle racer that shaves their legs! >Feeling better already, aren'cha? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 10:16:38 -0700 From: Tom Simpson Subject: Re: (klr650) SuperTrapp IDS problems/questions > >1) Any news on the Big Guns exhaust, the one with the header pipe? > (or is this another kle400;-) > I know nada about the Big Guns system, but whatever became of the KLE400 talk? I never did tke it very seriously as the current KLR is far better suited to the US markets needs, and "400" ususaly equals "Japanese home market only" anyway. They's at *least* give us the 500 to kick around. Not that I dont say, "to buy". :) - -Tom '96 KLR 650 dont want no Ninja motor in his dirt bike, thankyouverymuch. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 10:16:07 -0400 From: Stuart Heaslet Subject: Re: (klr650) Fuel Tank Just a couple of random thoughts: There might be some existing tank designs out there used for go-karts, small lawn tractors, etc. It might be worth checking out parts catalogs or go kart magazines. Also, I'm assuming you want the fuel transfer to be done while underway without using electrical power (another thing to go wrong), so maybe a small marine wobble pump or outboard bladder hand pump would work if it was located near your left knee. Maybe temporarily stored in a clip next to the petcock? You'd need a check valve or two either side of of the pump to keep it primed if it's not self-priming. Stuart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 09:24:41 -0500 From: Jim Barthell Subject: Re: (klr650) Fuel Tank Stuart Heaslet wrote: > Just a couple of random thoughts: > There might be some existing tank designs out there used for go-karts, > small lawn tractors, etc. It might be worth checking out parts catalogs or > go kart magazines. Not a bad idea... even if just to get ideas. > Also, I'm assuming you want the fuel transfer to be > done while underway without using electrical power That would be great but is not a requirement. Electric pump is ok. > (another thing to go wrong), Acceptable risk, if failure rate is high, they are small enough to carry a spare. > so maybe a small marine wobble pump or outboard bladder hand pump > would work if it was located near your left knee. Maybe temporarily stored > in a clip next to the petcock? You'd need a check valve or two either > side of of the pump to keep it primed if it's not self-priming. Hmmm sounds a little too high maintenance to be doing @80mph Keep 'em comming. - -- Jim Barthell - TX '97 'C-O-O-O-W'...asaki KiLleR 650 FSSNOC #2421 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 09:30:55 -0500 (CDT) From: "Peter M. Dean" Subject: Re: (klr650) Extra Fuel and gas mileage > Jim Barthell wrote: > > I ran some preliminary numbers today and think this is very doable. I'll be > contacting a welder aquaintance this week but I think this will work, I'm > looking at a couple versions:1) A 4.9 gallon to meet MERA standards. Jim, you have me salivating here. Please have the welder work on two copies of the 4.9 gallon version. Let me know if you need a deposit. I *WANT* one! > What is your cruising speed? I rode this bike over 14,000 miles before I ventured above 65 mph. In fact I usually stayed below 55. Then I started these Iron Butt rides. You can still do 1000 miles in 24 hours without going too fast, but that 1500 mile ride has had my eye for a while now. As I practiced for it I found I needed to go faster and faster. I was always behind schedule before my first gas stop. When I got up to 75 mph I was right on schedule. When I went 80 I could stay a little ahead of schedule, but because gas mileage dropped off precipitously between 75 and 80 I had to add extra gas stops. That's where I'm at today. 80 is my top cruising speed, and I'm still practicing. I believe I can keep that pace for 24 hours. Here's a question for all you jetting wizards out there. Low speed mileage obviously drops off with any of your changes. What about top speed mileage? Can I improve my mileage at 80 mph without changing the exhaust? Here's a tip for anyone running low on fuel. In my last practice session I was riding into a stiff headwind. My bike ran dry at 178 miles. When I reached for reserve I found I was already on reserve - OOOPS! After I coasted to a stop I dipped into Kawasaki's double secret reserve. I tipped the bike all the way over to the left, draining the gas from the right side of the tank to the petcock side. It got me to a gas station 12 miles down the road. Pete Dean ('94 KLR) Minnetonka MN pmd@sw.bcd.adc.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 14:45:20 +0100 (BST) From: Yusseri Yusoff Subject: (klr650) Speedo update and water pump 2 pence Hi again. I've sorted out the dead speedo problem. Turns out the gear in the front wheel hub was jammed. Also, I had my front tyre replaced some 3 1/2 months ago and I think that the bloke who fitted the tyre didn't put the speedo assembly in properly. So it didn't fit in the 'slot' properly on the hub. There was also loads of gunk (dirt, rust, little bits of grit). I sorted it all out with some WD-40, water, soap, blow drier and grease. I'd just like to say thanks to the list members for the hints. On the water pump thread, I thought I'd chip in and say that I had a pump leak problem about a year ago. Had water leaking through the weep hole copiously. Turns out the water pump was knackered due to a bent balancer shaft. Had to replace the pump and the shaft. Just my 2 pence. p.s. Jim Barthell... Yep, had help both from here and the Thumper list. Yus. - -- Yusseri Yusoff / y.yusoff@ee.surrey.ac.uk http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/showstaff?Yusoff Centre for Vision, Speech and Signal Processing University of Surrey Guildford GU2 5XH ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V1 #70 ***************************