From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V1 #83 Reply-To: klr650 Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Wednesday, May 20 1998 Volume 01 : Number 083 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 11:57:39 -0400 From: Peter Dahlheimer Subject: (klr650) seat in response to the seat question, i thought i'd add this... installed a travelcade seat kit before the trip from NJ to FLA... spent three 13 hour days in a row on it and my ass hurt... was inventing new positions to keep the butt off the seat... dunno if this helps, since i'd imagine anyone's butt would hurt no matter what seat you have after all that riding... i must say tho that it's fine for like the first coupla hundred miles... _pete 97KLR650 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 12:02:37 -0400 From: Peter Dahlheimer Subject: (klr650) seat again one more thing on seating and butt comfort... prolly the most important lesson i learned on my ironbutt tour (not really...) is that highway pegs allow for much change in seating position, which was the key to my butt surviving the trip. _pete 97KLR650 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 10:15:39 -0600 From: "Fred Hink" Subject: Re: (klr650) Lower DS - -----Original Message----- From: John Tranter To: KLR LIST Date: Tuesday, May 19, 1998 7:51 AM Subject: (klr650) Lower DS >Many thanks to all who sent advice on my search for a DS suitable for my >wife. We'll be looking at the suggested bikes this weekend. There are >advantages/disadvantages to each one, but I've learned that no matter >how much logic is involved, the choice really comes down to what Sue >likes when she sits on the bike. I would prefer the KLR 250, lowered if >possible, but I think she is going to like the XT 225. We'll see. > I just bought a couple of TW200 Yamahas. They are nice little trail DS bikes. My girl friend Peggy had no trouble driving one. Not much for down the road but like you said "advantages/disadvantages" >On the mail-order vendor thread: After hearing so many good things about >the Moose skid plate I ordered one 5/14 from MAW. The lady said there >was one left so I jumped on it. Yesterday, 5/18, I get a notice from MAW >saying the item is backordered and will be cancelled in 30 days. I guess >I'm supposed to wait around for a month to see if they get one in. Did >they lie or just make a mistake? Either way it is annoying. Kinda makes >me want to cut Dual-Star a little slack. Just my two cents. To the lucky few that have ordered skid plates from me, they should be in this week. As much trouble as everyone is having with mail order companies maybe I should raise my prices. GEE What a concept! I wouldn't do that!! :<) > >Anyone know if Forest Service maps are available by mail or on the net? > Cleck out my friend Tom's map store at http://www.moab.net/timaps/ Tell him I sent you. Fred Hink moabmc@lasal.net Arrowhead Motorsports http://cctr.umkc.edu/user/khink/moabmc/index.html >John Tranter >'98 KLR 650 >'93 Concours >Montgomery, AL > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 11:08:27 -0500 From: Mike Hilton Subject: Re: (klr650) Re: jetset Chris, Todd, I am new to the list and the KLR world but have done a little jetting and exhaust changes on my R100GS. So I am curious that I have not heard anyone mention checking the plugs for burn pattern or color. Sine I am older and have trouble hearing pinging, I must depend on plug color... Todd Emsley wrote: > > Chris, > > Air flow is the key to top end. I would drill out the air box. After > that you should start to get pinging, go up with your main jet until the > pinging stops. This should improve your top end. I'm running a COBRA > pipe which is essentially a hollow tube, with a 155 main and 4 turns > out. It doesn't have a powerband like a two-stroke, but if you remember > the big heavy flywheel on these bikes, it's pretty good. > > Todd A11 - -- Michael Hilton fmhilton@bayou.com http://www.bayou.com/rustonmarshal Ruston, LA ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 12:20:27 -0400 From: "R. K. Dow" Subject: Re: (klr650) New KLR on Twisties Ted Palmer wrote: [...] >> I have scraped the front part of my boot several times. but the angle >> required to scrape the pegs seems to be about 50 degrees (measured at >> a stop with the suspension uncompressed. >Your magic word is "uncompressed". The bike will settle a fair bit with a rider on. >In the twisties when the G's build up it will settle more, cutting down the available angle of >dangle. >Fitting the wider Tengai pegs with hero bolts is how I cheat a bit as well. How do the Tengai pegs work? Advantages? Has any one else tried the Tengai pegs? What are "hero bolts"? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 12:32:57 EDT From: WEllin11 Subject: Re: (klr650) Tuning questions. You need to call Mike at DynoJet, 1-800-992-4993. The kit specified for my '95 KLX650C was pn 2264. It was packed with very specific details of what to install based on the modifications performed. In my case, with a Cobra ISDN pipe, K & N air filter, air box lid removed, the #155 jet was called for. The stock jet was a #148. By improving the efficiency of air flow through the engine, you must increase the size of the jet to compensate for the reduction in vacuum within the carburetor. Without this compensation, your mixture will be ultra lean. You'll have no mid-range or top end. The new needle provided in this kit provides increased fuel off idle through mid-range as well. You need to correct this lean condition right away. Symtoms will be white ash on spark plug, and increased 'blueing' of the exhaust head pipe, as well as worse than stock performance. Call DynoJet to verify that you got the right kit and get the proper directions. Trust me, mine worked out quite well. Wayne ------------------------------ Date: 19 May 1998 10:43:11 -0600 From: "Pokluda, Gino F" Subject: (klr650) Castrol Syn Seen a couple of posts regarding problems with Castrol Syntec. I've been running it in my KLR650 for about 7K miles now with no signs of clutch slippage. I have experienced easier shifting and easier starting in cold temperatures. I'm not sure why some people experience clutch slippage and why some do not. I think part of the problem may be when the full synthetic is introduced to the engine. I have been told that full synthetics should not be introduced into an engine before at least 5K miles are on it, other have told me 10K miles. My KLR had 10K miles when I put the Castrol Syntec in it. I have been very pleased with the results, and have just put it into my ATV which has also accepted it well. Gino ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 12:46:43 EDT From: WEllin11 Subject: Re: (klr650) Re: jetset Call DynoJet at 1-800-992-4993 for a recommendation on a motorcycle dyno shop in your area. If you buy one of their jet kits, you get a coupon for a free dyno run at one of their listed shops. Wayne ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 10:20:06 -0700 From: beez@Cyra.COM (Christopher Beasley) Subject: Re: (klr650) Re: jetset At 09:22 PM 5/19/98 +1000, Ted Palmer wrote: >Eric Dietiker wrote: > >[...] >> put in a one size larger main, which brought back the power. I *should* >> keep going up until it's too rich & back off, but I haven't yet. I have a >> 38mm Mikuni round slide, so we can't compare jet sizes (too bad). > >Is the roundslide worth the difference over stock? > >Mister_T Is the roundslide a CV type carb or a (I dunno what to call it) cable actuated slide carb? b Christopher J. Beasley beez@cyra.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 12:27:02 -0500 From: "Royer, Timothy E." Subject: (klr650) Synthetic oils??? Just poppin in from the lurking digest mode, I hope I'm not too late. I had followed the last extensive discussion on MC vs. Auto oils, and even read that website that rated the different oils. From all of that input I changed to Castrol Syntec at my 3000 mi. oil change. I have put about 1000 miles on 98 KLR since then with no problems. I had hoped that my shifting would get smoother, but it still has problems down shifting standing still at a stop light. I really don't want to have to change clutch plates before I change rear tires(which is soon). Question: where is the best mail order house to get Avon Gripsters?? Thanks Tim (98 KLR Kaw-Thump, the back road bomber) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 11:50:51 -0600 From: Kurt Simpson Subject: (klr650) Mail order..Avon Gripsters > Question: where is the best mail order house to get Avon Gripsters?? > Thanks > Tim (98 KLR Kaw-Thump, the back road bomber) I haven't found cheaper prices then MAW, you can order online and track your order. For the most part they are very good but every now and then they lie to you and tell you they have "one" in stock and then send you a statement saying it is on backorder. Meanwhile they bill you card....c'est la vie...c'est la guerre.. - -- Kurt Simpson KLR650 A12 OB HawkGT '89 FS XS-650 '77 FS XS-650 '79 FS XS-650 '80 FS Ask me how to subscribe to the KLR Dual Sport Newsletter. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 12:06:45 -0600 From: Marcus_Young@ceo.cudenver.edu (Marcus Young) Subject: Re: (klr650) Mail order..Avon Gripsters Ouch, billing your card before shipping the product! I don't mind the inventory discrepancy, but the billing thing makes me leery not only because it's unethical, but illegal too if I'm not mistaken. They shouldn't bill ya until the product is ready to ship. ajax@xmission.com,Internet writes: >> Question: where is the best mail order house to get Avon >Gripsters?? >> Thanks >> Tim (98 KLR Kaw-Thump, the back road bomber) > >I haven't found cheaper prices then MAW, you can order >online and track your order. For the most part they are very >good but every now and then they lie to you and tell you >they have "one" in stock and then send you a statement >saying it is on backorder. Meanwhile they bill you >card....c'est la vie...c'est la guerre.. >-- >Kurt Simpson KLR650 A12 OB > HawkGT '89 FS > XS-650 '77 FS > XS-650 '79 FS > XS-650 '80 FS > >Ask me how to subscribe to the KLR >Dual Sport Newsletter. > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 14:37:42 -0400 From: "Catron, Geoff" Subject: RE: (klr650) Mail order..Avon Gripsters Competition Accessories will bill you even if the product is backordered unless you specify NO PRE-BILL on your order, so MAW's not the only place that you have to watch. Comp-A will usually give you the straight story on what's in stock and how long it will take to receive your order, though. Geoff Catron '96 R1100GSA KLR650 A12 > -----Original Message----- > From: Marcus_Young@ceo.cudenver.edu > [SMTP:Marcus_Young@ceo.cudenver.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 1998 2:07 PM > To: klr650@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: (klr650) Mail order..Avon Gripsters > > Ouch, billing your card before shipping the product! I don't mind the > inventory discrepancy, but the billing thing makes me leery not only > because it's unethical, but illegal too if I'm not mistaken. They > shouldn't bill ya until the product is ready to ship. > > ajax@xmission.com,Internet writes: > >> Question: where is the best mail order house to get Avon > >Gripsters?? > >> Thanks > >> Tim (98 KLR Kaw-Thump, the back road bomber) > > > >I haven't found cheaper prices then MAW, you can order > >online and track your order. For the most part they are very > >good but every now and then they lie to you and tell you > >they have "one" in stock and then send you a statement > >saying it is on backorder. Meanwhile they bill you > >card....c'est la vie...c'est la guerre.. > >-- > >Kurt Simpson KLR650 A12 OB > > HawkGT '89 FS > > XS-650 '77 FS > > XS-650 '79 FS > > XS-650 '80 FS > > > >Ask me how to subscribe to the KLR > >Dual Sport Newsletter. > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 13:31:29 -0500 From: Jim Barthell Subject: Re: (klr650) Synthetic oils??? Royer, Timothy E. wrote: > , but it still has problems down shifting standing still > at a stop light. Does it kinda go into neutral, (the light comes on). then it won't go to 1st? If that is the case both my KLRs did/do that just let the clutch out, (while still in neutral) pull it back in and all is in order again, it will downshift just fine. Hope that helps - -- Jim Barthell - TX '97 'C-O-O-O-W'...asaki KiLleR 650 FSSNOC #2421 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 14:38:16 EDT From: genefessenbecker@juno.com (Gene Fessenbecker) Subject: Re: (klr650) Seats! Again!?! There is no substitute for a Russel seat. Its not pretty but it works. If you ride long distances, ugly and comfortable can work. Gene Fessenbecker Construction Contracting Academy Oregon Contractor Education Courses Advantage Contractor Business Success Series 541-344-1442, 541-344-5387, Fax _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 14:38:16 EDT From: genefessenbecker@juno.com (Gene Fessenbecker) Subject: Re: (klr650) Castrol Synthetic Oil The key here is "full" synthetic. Simply mix petroleum and synthetic 50-50 or buy a mix. I have used Mobil 1, 15-50 and Castrol 25-50 for years in everything (BMW GS, KLR 650, XR 650 L, SRX 600) with no problems. There are isolated cases of problems but not usually traced to an oil factor. Gene Fessenbecker Construction Contracting Academy Oregon Contractor Education Courses Advantage Contractor Business Success Series 541-344-1442, 541-344-5387, Fax _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 13:46:58 -0500 From: Jim Barthell Subject: Re: (klr650) Seats! Again!?! Gene Fessenbecker wrote: > There is no substitute for a Russel seat. Its not pretty but it works. If > you ride long distances, ugly and comfortable can work. Now wait a minute Gene ;-) I am plenty happy running all over the place on my Corbin. The Russel ain't the only game in town. - -- Jim Barthell - TX '97 'C-O-O-O-W'...asaki KiLleR 650 FSSNOC #2421 ------------------------------ Date: 19 May 1998 13:56:21 -0600 From: "Pokluda, Gino F" Subject: (klr650) Parts wanted Sorry for the confusion about the exhaust system request. This is the entire message. Rick Witwer is looking for the following parts for his KLR650 Muffler, stock skid plate, air box/battery box. Rick does not have e-mail but you can call him at 810-751-4942 (home) or 248-353-9851 (work) or snail mail him at 4472 Bramble, Warren, MI 48092. TIA for helping Rick out. Gino ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 18:19:24 -0400 From: "Robert frey" Subject: Re: (klr650) First Trip For her the recommendation would be the Yamaha XT225. Electric Start, can't kill it, and it'll run with the big boys.... - -----Original Message----- From: Kurt Simpson To: John Tranter Cc: KLR LIST Date: Monday, May 18, 1998 2:29 PM Subject: Re: (klr650) First Trip >John Tranter wrote: > >> Solution? Now she wants a DS bike of her own. Any suggestions on a DS >> bike with low seat height? > >Oh boy, this could make a good thread...if she is going to >do any off-roading then one of the tests might be to lay the >KLR down (with a near empty tank of gas) and have her pick >it up. If she fails miserably and you do as well...then >Kathleen will give you both some tips. > >Seriously, a lowered KLR might work but I think the bar-none >hands-on favorite has to be a Suzuki DR-350ES. > >-- >Kurt Simpson KLR650 A12 OB > HawkGT '89 FS > XS-650 '77 FS > XS-650 '79 FS > XS-650 '80 FS > >Ask me how to subscribe to the KLR >Dual Sport Newsletter. > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 17:41:39 -0500 From: Michael Redwine Subject: Re: (klr650) Re: jetset Morgan I have seen a bike dyno at some of the BMW rallies in the past. Theres a fellow that travels the rally circuit and will dyno tune your bike I'm not sure what he charged. I always thought it looked & sounded to brutal for my taste as the guy really gave the engine a workout, Its not for the faint of heart. Later !!! Mikey R. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 19:12:10 EDT From: nocoffee@juno.com (Norman D Coffenberry) Subject: Re: (klr650) Mail order..Avon Gripsters I bought my rear gripster for $69.00 I think, from Competition Specialties. Another $10 for shipping and handling. It replaced a gripster with 10K miles on it! On Tue, 19 May 1998 11:50:51 -0600 Kurt Simpson writes: >> Question: where is the best mail order house to get Avon >Gripsters?? _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 19:50:41 EDT From: WKPII Subject: Fwd: (klr650) Castrol Synthetic Oil This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --part0_895621841_boundary Content-ID: <0_895621841@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII - --part0_895621841_boundary Content-ID: <0_895621841@inet_out.mail.aol.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline From: WKPII Return-path: To: rkaub@binghamton.edu Subject: Re: (klr650) Castrol Synthetic Oil Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 19:50:16 EDT Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Did she not know about the new Motorcycle oil make? Today's car oils are very different than they used to be. Sure you could use it 10 years ago in your bike but today because of emission standards and catalytic converters it is very different from todays motorcycle oil. Email me for more info on Castrol mineral, blend, synthetic, premix and V-Twin oils. I use it and it is good stuff. Walter - --part0_895621841_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 20:00:12 EDT From: WKPII Subject: (klr650) Castrol oil specifically for bikes The skinny on Castrol Motorcycle Oil 4 Stroke Mineral 10w-40 15w-50 4 Stroke Full Synthetic 5w-40 V-Twin Mineral 20w-50 V-Twin Blend 20w-50 V-Twin Full Synthetic 20w-60 2 Stroke Mineral, Synthetic Blend and Full Synthetic For retail locations in your area emal me. Walter :-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 17:32:53 -0700 From: Jean Philippe Bagel Subject: (klr650) KLR 250 is used in the ARMY!!! Did you guys know this? - -JP KLR 250-D8 Marine Corps Motorcycle Primary function: Alternate means of transporting messages, documents, light cargo and conducting reconnaissance. Length: 7 ft. (2.13 meters) Weight: 258 lbs. (117.13 kilograms) Estimated Range: 210 miles highway Unit Replacement Cost: $5,500 Features: The KLR 250-D8 is a lightweight, rugged, commercial, cross-country motorcycle that has been modified for military use. It provides an alternate means of transporting messages, documents, and light cargo between units. The KLR 250-D8 may also be used to transport forward observers, military police and reconnaissance personnel. It is equipped with two detachable document carrying cases. The size and construction of the KLR 250 make it highly mobile on all roads and cross-country terrain. The 1991 model KLR 250-D8 replaces the 1984 KLR 250. Background: The KLR 250-D8 is the second generation of Marine Corps Motorcycle. Its proven versatility has made it a crucial asset to field commanders when used as an alternate means of communication. Its basic commercial design provides easy access to repair parts and commercial service facilities if required. POC: Headquarters Marine Corps, Division of Public Affairs, 2 Navy Annex, Washington, D.C. 20380-1775; (703) 614-1492. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 17:40:59 -0700 From: frjsmithjr@webtv.net (Francis Smith) Subject: (klr650) Synthetic Oil (again!) When I took delivery of my '98 Goldwing a month or so ago, the pre-delivery guy (known by me to be a good "wrench") told me not to use synthetic oil until I had 10K miles on the clock. He uses it in his GSXR 1100 and swears by it. FWIW, in the latest issue of Cycle World they talk about one of their long-term test bikes; a CBR 1100XX with 12K miles on it. At the last oil change they used Castrol synthetic. That's good enough for me. When the KLR and the Wing show 10K miles, I'm switching to a synthetic oil. Jim - Palmdale, CA. '98 KLR '98 GL 1500 SE ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 17:54:20 -0700 From: conallob@webtv.net (Conall O'Brien) Subject: (klr650) Fwd: Re: headlight modulator install - --WebTV-Mail-2062696026-25 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT - --WebTV-Mail-2062696026-25 Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT From: conallob@webtv.net (Conall O'Brien) Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 17:41:52 -0700 To: rkaub@binghamton.edu (Robert Kaub) Subject: Re: headlight modulator install Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY=WebTV-Mail-1899954853-5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) - --WebTV-Mail-1899954853-5 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT I bought a Kisan Technologies headlight modulator. www.kisantech.com It was real easy to install. Three wires (hi-beam,lo beam and ground ) need to be connected and the modulator simply goes in series. so you have 3 wires from the bike going into the box then 3 wires from the box to the headlight. I wasn't sure how reliable the kisan would be initially so i used some quick connect type of connectors that would allow me to take the mod. out of circuit if necessary and then reconnect the light back up without any hassles. Supposedly the box is not totally waterproof so I recommend the quick connect/disconnect setup in case of rain. I velcroed the unit to the inside of my fairing and it fits no problem. My unit melted down when I believe my sloppy wire workmanship caused a ground short. The owner of Kisan who is extremely good natured and helpful said it was possible that my headlight wattage (not a stock headlamp bulb) exceeded the rating of the modulator so he replaced the whole unit for a higher wattage unit for only $12. (price difference between the two). Since then I have not had any problems and am quite happy with the Kisan. Conall KLR 650A4 - --WebTV-Mail-1899954853-5 Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Message-Id: <3.0.2.16.19980519094325.1e8fb8ba@mailbox.cc.binghamton.edu> X-Sender: rkaub@mailbox.cc.binghamton.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.2 (16) Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 09:43:25 To: conallob@webtv.net (Conall O'Brien) From: Robert Kaub Subject: Re: headlight modulator install In-Reply-To: <199805150032.RAA05015@mailtod-101.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 05:32 PM 5/14/98 -0700, you wrote: >Bob- Yes I have installed a hdlt modulator on my KLR and have been using >for approx 1 year > >Conall: What brand did you buy? How was it to install. Did you have any trouble with it? Thanks. Bob Kaub SUNY Binghamton Watson School Student Shop PO Box 6000 Binghamton, NY 13902 607-777-2715 - --WebTV-Mail-1899954853-5-- - --WebTV-Mail-2062696026-25-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 21:22:45 -0400 From: "Rick Clarke" Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR 250 is used in the ARMY!!! > Did you guys know this? > > -JP > > KLR 250-D8 Marine Corps Motorcycle My friend who was in the Marines says the only thing they used those for was tearing around in the woods in North Carolina. He can't remember ever using the bikes for the stated justification. - -Rick R.P.Clarke (rpclarke@mindspring.com) "What traffic?" RTP, NC, USA DoD#5811 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 21:33:27 -0400 From: "Rick Clarke" Subject: Re: (klr650) Mail order..Avon Gripsters > > Question: where is the best mail order house to get Avon Gripsters?? > > Thanks > > Tim (98 KLR Kaw-Thump, the back road bomber) > > I haven't found cheaper prices then MAW, you can order > online and track your order. Try Jeff at MX South. He was willing to match MAW's web prices and the service was superb! I ordered a gripster through him and the tire was at my front door the next day, with only the normal shipping charge ($7 I think). He doesn't stock a lot. Instead he has it shipped directly from your nearest distributor. In my case, it worked out great. Here's some more info- Jeff MX South MX@pipeline.com WWW.bews.com/mxsouth 305-255-3718 305-255-2555 - -Rick R.P.Clarke (rpclarke@mindspring.com) "What traffic?" RTP, NC, USA DoD#5811 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 22:19:38 -0400 From: "Robert frey" Subject: (klr650) Daytona Dual-Sport Pictures Hey, I've got a Kodak Disk full of groovy dualsport pictures from Daytona! How do I get them from the disk to my email out to you or whoever wants to see them. HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Robert @ rlfrey@gte.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 21:10:45 -0600 From: Kurt Simpson Subject: Re: (klr650) Daytona Dual-Sport Pictures At 10:19 PM 5/19/1998 -0400, Robert frey wrote: >Hey, I've got a Kodak Disk full of groovy dualsport pictures from Daytona! >How do I get them from the disk to my email out to you or whoever wants to >see them. PLLEEESSE whatever you do don't pull the trigger on them to the list it won't work on the digest. OK, usually the digital camera comes with some software to offload or manipulate them. If you have that and have figured out what you have you just save them in a .gif or jpeg format and note their location. I'm assuming that is the a: drive but it would be much better to get them on your hard disk noting the directory they are in and their name. Then you simply send a message to someone and hit the attachment button on your mailer toolbar or select attach from your pull down menu off of message or whatever. So, in short you send them as an attachment. The recipient will either have to have a .gif or jpeg compliant email program or will have to have a viewer...There are a lot of variables but basically just attach them and let the people on the other end figure out what to do with them. Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 23:15:47 EDT From: K650dsn Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR 250 is used in the ARMY!!! In a message dated 98-05-19 20:35:46 EDT, jpbagel@microsoft.com writes: << KLR 250-D8 Marine Corps Motorcycle Primary function: Alternate means of transporting messages, documents, light cargo and conducting reconnaissance. Length: 7 ft. (2.13 meters) Weight: 258 lbs. (117.13 kilograms) Estimated Range: 210 miles highway Unit Replacement Cost: $5,500 >> Yes. They were actually used for GPSing and recon during Desert Storm. Rider or Motorcyclist had and article on them. Gino ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 23:46:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Kuhlman Subject: Re: (klr650) seat again At 12:02 PM 5/19/98 -0400, Peter Dahlheimer wrote: >one more thing on seating and butt comfort... prolly the most important >lesson i learned on my ironbutt tour (not really...) is that highway >pegs allow for much change in seating position, which was the key to my >butt surviving the trip. Try some good bicycle shorts under whatever you're wearing as well. It may help some. On hot days, a liberal dose of talcum/baby powder in there as well, as sweat is a real enemy. And for you susceptible to getting hemorrhoids (hey, no one *likes* to talk about them) be sure to grease up with some KY jelly or similar. Just please don't ask me how I know all of these things help. Going back to lurking, Don Kuhlman "Gawd, but that Russell seat is ugly!" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 21:05:35 -0700 From: "Darrel & Deanna" Subject: (klr650) Grease Fittings Today was "ride your bike to work day", at least in my neck of the woods...so I rode the KLR. Upon parking, I happened to look down at the front wheel hub and saw a dandy little flat spot that would be perfect for drilling out and installing a zirk fitting. Has anyone done this? Does anyone advise against it (of course I would remove the bearings before drilling)? Darrel SoCal ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 07:04:00 -0400 From: Todd Emsley Subject: Re: (klr650) Re: jetset Mike, On a bike like a BMW, with the plugs hanging out, reading them is an easy process. With the KLR, all the dissassembly has changed my technique to not use plug reading. I used it on my two-stroke motocross bikes because they were also easy to reach, unlike the KLR. Whatever works, Todd A11 p.s. You WILL hear the detonation, don't worry. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 07:10:20 -0400 From: Todd Emsley Subject: Re: (klr650) Castrol Syn About the Castrol, I waited the 3k break-in, then went to Syntec. Very smooth shifting, great clutch action and grip. No complaints after 4.5k. Todd A11 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 07:16:16 -0400 From: Todd Emsley Subject: Re: (klr650) Synthetic Oil (again!) Jim, Quite a motorcycle budget this year, eh? 98KLR 98 'Wing Todd A11 Envious ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 07:17:54 -0400 From: Todd Emsley Subject: Re: (klr650) Daytona Dual-Sport Pictures Send them to the list! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 23:50:54 +1000 From: Ted Palmer Subject: Re: (klr650) New KLR on Twisties R. K. Dow wrote: [...] > How do the Tengai pegs work? Advantages? Has any one else tried the > Tengai pegs? The Tengai pegs are much bigger and rubber covered. I'm no expert on Kwaka road bikes, but I suspect the Tengai pegs also served duty on bigger Kwak road bikes. The rubber cuts down vibration a _bit_, but I prefer them because they don't chew leather soles like the stocker serrated steel pegs. > What are "hero bolts"? The Tengai pegs also have threaded holes on the outer lower edge, for fitting "hero" bolts. These bolts are the dome-headed little bolts that stick out downwards at about 45deg. These should be the first thing to touch down in a bend. The more bolt you can grind off with bitumen the greater the street cred. I'm trying to find an aussie distributor of some titanium hero bolts I saw in "Fast Bikes" magazine. Titanium is supposed to throw massive sparks on touchdown. Mister_T - -- \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\ | RC17 KLR600 Roces BCN FreeBSD 2.2.5-R NT4W (ugh) | | tedp[at]replicant[dot]apana[dot]org[dot]au | \|_________________________________________________________________| ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 10:10:48 -0400 From: "J. Taylor" Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR 250 is used in the ARMY!!! One of the reasons I bought the 250's bigger brother was after watching the Marines at Camp Pendleton and overseas (during Desert Storm) abuse them unmercifully. I was a Corpsman assigned to standby and wait for one of "the few, the proud" to fall off one of them during training ops. What I saw impressed me with the machine and its willingness to be worked lika dawg. However, I never saw the "document carriers" that the description spoke of or I would have requisitioned a pair myself somehow! They did have better paint schemes than the civilian model (Digel green and pupple)-All flat black, all flat green or Cammo. Jake Taylor, Jacksonville, FL. K650dsn wrote: > > In a message dated 98-05-19 20:35:46 EDT, jpbagel@microsoft.com writes: > > << KLR 250-D8 Marine Corps Motorcycle > > Primary function: Alternate means of transporting messages, documents, light > cargo and conducting reconnaissance. > Length: 7 ft. (2.13 meters) > Weight: 258 lbs. (117.13 kilograms) > Estimated Range: 210 miles highway > Unit Replacement Cost: $5,500 >> > > Yes. They were actually used for GPSing and recon during Desert Storm. Rider > or Motorcyclist had and article on them. > > Gino ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 10:28:43 -0500 From: mcpete@juno.com Subject: (klr650) oil frustrations OK guys, I'm confused as hell. First I hear that synthetic oil is the best for our bikes (upon proper break-in) then I hear it's not, then I hear testimony that it works great. Why does Castrol oil "hint" that their oil is not suitable for m/c's. They're the experts, why don't they come out and state w/ data what oil works and what oil doesn't? It's not because of liability concerns, they pour out tons of data on their oils for other uses. Next, for those running Mobile 1 and the like, I am not sure that 5-10k of synthetic oil use is a fair test. I would much rather see longer tests. Again, why don't the oil companies have some hard data, or the various m/c mags? Mobile 1 has been out for years, isn't there some long term tests? And blending oils? Am I suppose to set up some kind of lab in my kitchen and cook up formulas? In this day of modern technology, I find it hard to believe that I am suppose to make my own back yard blend. You mean I can do better that the oil companies? I also have a hard time buying into the hype of oils like Amsoil. And last, what is the info on the m/c specific oils made by Castrol Oil and Quaker State. What are they, and where are they? They aren't readily available at any of the bigger parts houses or the K-marts that I go to. Our engines are not complicated, highly technical pieces of equipment. They are actually very simple. So what oil to use should be simple (and cheap!) as well Signed Frustrated in Texas, the Land of Oil! Pete McMahon '97 KLR (Running on Motul, an oil from France for Christ's sake!) '93 R100R (Running just great on Valvoline) _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 12:33:29 -0400 From: "J. Taylor" Subject: Re: (klr650) oil frustrations I couldn't agree more with ya Pete. Why don't we send Gordon Jennings, oil guru, a gift subscription to the list to help obfuscate the matter more. Jake Taylor mcpete@juno.com wrote: > > OK guys, I'm confused as hell. First I hear that synthetic oil is the > best for our bikes (upon proper break-in) then I hear it's not, then I > hear testimony that it works great. > > Why does Castrol oil "hint" that their oil is not suitable for m/c's. > They're the experts, why don't they come out and state w/ data what oil > works and what oil doesn't? It's not because of liability concerns, they > pour out tons of data on their oils for other uses. > > Next, for those running Mobile 1 and the like, I am not sure that 5-10k > of synthetic oil use is a fair test. I would much rather see longer > tests. Again, why don't the oil companies have some hard data, or the > various m/c mags? Mobile 1 has been out for years, isn't there some long > term tests? > > And blending oils? Am I suppose to set up some kind of lab in my kitchen > and cook up formulas? In this day of modern technology, I find it hard to > believe that I am suppose to make my own back yard blend. You mean I can > do better that the oil companies? > > I also have a hard time buying into the hype of oils like Amsoil. > > And last, what is the info on the m/c specific oils made by Castrol Oil > and Quaker State. What are they, and where are they? They aren't readily > available at any of the bigger parts houses or the K-marts that I go to. > > Our engines are not complicated, highly technical pieces of equipment. > They are actually very simple. So what oil to use should be simple (and > cheap!) as well > > Signed > Frustrated in Texas, the Land of Oil! > > Pete McMahon > '97 KLR (Running on Motul, an oil from France for Christ's sake!) > '93 R100R (Running just great on Valvoline) > > _____________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com > Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: 20 May 98 11:34:00 -0400 From: kris.cichon@gsa.gov Subject: (klr650) Lowering klr650 - --UNS_gsauns2_2870339080 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Disposition: inline Hi there.. I have 32 Kawi's klr650. But my girlfriend have a "little" problem reaching "The Ground".. So we are desperately looking for the way to lower one of our Kawi of about 1-1/2 to 2". Does anyone have any idea what my options are.. She doesn't even listen about switching to the other bike ;-) So .. please help ... kris.cichon@gsa.gov or blueshadow@geocities.com - --UNS_gsauns2_2870339080-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 12:53:41 -0500 (CDT) From: Carlos Yonan Gonzalez Subject: (klr650) Crunchy Shifting Hello all, I have a technical problem with my KLR that hopefully someone can help me with. My 91 KLR has 12,300 miles on it with troublefree service. However about 1,000 miles ago it started to get difficult to shift smoothly. Sometimes the shifting feels kinda crunchy or notchy when upshifting and downshifting. It doesn't do it every time I shift, but it does it often. I checked the front sprocket and the shaft it's connected to and found that the sprocket moves on the shaft slightly (which I think is normal) and that the shaft itself moves in and out of the engine slightly (about 2-3mm of total movement). My question is if this movement is normal, and if it could be related to the poor shifting. Has anyone else had this problem. P.S. I think that this shaft movement is the culprit, but if someone else has any other ideas please let me know, I need all the help I can get. Thanks in advance, Carlos ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V1 #83 ***************************