From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V1 #135 Reply-To: $SENDER Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Tuesday, July 14 1998 Volume 01 : Number 135 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 18:29:56 -0500 From: Steve Rottenberg Subject: Re: (klr650) Motard info right,left UFO low front fender. I ordered the Acerbis fender. Do oyu have any opinion which is better? ericR Hey Eric, Yes, it's a UFO Low fender. When I went to RTM (The place I do business with) to buy the fender, they showed me the catalog and the UFO was the one that fit KLR's and the price was around $30. I've read about the acerbis, I've never seen it. They might be the same thing ! right,left Steve Rottenberg Tuca en IRC (Undernet) Email: tuca@tampabay.rr.com Email: steve@vvd.com Don't take life so seriously ... it's not permanent. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 15:54:26 -0700 From: "Dean Harrison" Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR newbie w/ a coupla questions Looks like Germain's right about the meter. I'm not sure if it's clear though that he's telling you to set the meter to VOLTAGE if you're checki= ng to see if the connector is hot or not. The only time you use AMPS is when you put the meter in series with a load and are trying to determine how many amps the load is drawing. At least you were lucky and the meter was fused. Dean in Seattle - ---------- From: Germain Gagnon To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR newbie w/ a coupla questions Date: Monday, July 13, 1998 6:58 AM > De : Mike Magier > A : klr650@lists.xmission.com > Objet : (klr650) KLR newbie w/ a coupla questions > Date=A0: 13 juillet, 1998 00:08 >=20 > 3) Electrical (yecch). There are 2 wire connectors inside the fairing that > go to nowhere. They run right next to the wires for the right turn signal. I > wanted to check them out, so I threw my $5 special ohm/amp/voltmeter an= d > immediately blew both the fuse in the meter and the 10A fuse on the bik= e. > After replacing the bike fuse w/ the spare, there doesn't seem to be an= y > other damage. What gives? I'm no electrical wizard, but I cant' figure out > how this happened. Anybody know what those wires are? Hi Mike I don't know the utility of these connectors. Concerning your fuses blow up, It looks like you were checking the amps with your multimeter. Becaus= e you didn't put any load, the meter was making a short circuit with your t= wo wire connectors. This is why the internal fuse of your meter blow up and the 10A fuse on your bike also . I guess both fuse are at 10A. The purpose of the fuse is to protect the wiring. It looks like the short circuit was very fast so, any dommage should be done on the bike. Good luck Germain =20 - ---------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 18:45:25 -0500 (CDT) From: rycomm@webtv.net (Ryan Combs) Subject: (klr650) jackets I have a Vanson Avenger in cordura that works very well in the heat and high humidity. The jacket is very well constructed, and includes good integral armour. A liner is available, but I think a regular fleece pull over would work better. I got mine in blue, which matches the '94 and earlier perfectly (too perfectly). I liked the Kilimanjaro/Kenya's, but they only came in black. I thought a lighter color would be better for a summer jacket (my previous jacket was thick black leather). It has a lot of reflective pipeing. I wear it with my Darien pants, and have been mistaken for Lake Patrol rangers / officers (though they don't have a bike). This jacket is a bit more expensive than the Firstgear, and it is not water proof. It has quite a bit of competition leather on it (which takes a while to break-in), and I had a waterproof parka anyway. Gino, if you want some more info for the newsletter, let me know Ryan (89 klr 650) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 20:29:01 -0400 From: Stuart Heaslet Subject: Re: (klr650) jackets Ryan, does the Vanson Avenger jacket have a number of ventilation slots? I'm another who's looking for a hot weather jacket in south Florida... Stuart 1998 KLR 650 At 06:45 PM 7/13/98 -0500, Ryan Combs wrote: >I have a Vanson Avenger in cordura that works very well in the heat and >high humidity. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 21:21:05 EDT From: Subject: Re: (klr650) Re: Engine Noises and Heat My 91 KLR also has a knocking sound on occasion while at low rpm trail riding, since I have only had this bike for about 3000 miles and am new to this list I am curious to learn if any others have had this noise. I used a stethascope to find that the noise is coming from the top end. I had my trusted local mechanic check the cam chain tensioner and the top end in general. He told me that the tensioner was ok and that there appeared to be a very small amount of end play on the cams which could account for this noise. This is a problem that I was familiar with as the owner of two GS series Suzuki street bikes which were notorious for this problem but which ran forever despite the noise at low rpm. I was always told that this was because the cams were centered only by the chain and as a result tended to rattle at idle. In any case I am going to check the top end regularly to make sure the problem,if it is one,doesn't get any worse. The bike currently has 17,000 miles. Kurt Grife Avila Beach, Ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 22:00:43 -0400 From: "Bob Zeliff" Subject: Re: (klr650) Tampa-Montreal You should get an Canadian insurance coverage card from you insurer. they should give you one for free. I've never had to show one in Canada....but their tourist guides always mention to have proof of mandatory minimun insurance if asked. Better to be prepared than having to buy insurance on thespot. Bob Zeliff A10 - -----Original Message----- From: Christian Kindarji To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Date: Monday, July 13, 1998 12:19 PM Subject: (klr650) Tampa-Montreal >I'm planning for 3 days trip from Tampa to Montreal on my KLR650. That will >be my first long ride. >Does anybody knows where I could get a list of preventive stuff I should >take with me? tools ? >Should I get a kind of AAA road assistance kind of membership ? >I'll appreciate any help or recommendation. Thank you. > >Chris > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 18:54:59 -0700 From: "Hirofumi A. Watanabe" Subject: (klr650) KLE and Africa Twin Mr. Kurt Simpson wrote >Welcome Hiro, you are well known to this list and I know that we will >benefit from your perspective. It has been quite awhile since we have heard >from your friend Ron and it is good to know that he has been up to something >constructive. In time, maybe, you can help the list come to have a better >understanding of this most complicated person. > >In the meantime, I wonder if you can tell us more about the KLE, considering >that it is to be the replacement of a most venerable bike I'm assuming that >it is quite a ride. > >BTW, did you ever seriously consider my offer on the African Twin? > >Kurt Simpson A12 Thank you for a most warm welcome Mr. Simpson. I have not actually witnessed Ron being constructive:p Please let me know if you do. I can help you with information on the KLE but first I need to clear up a few misconceptions that are being perpetrated here. I am currently assigned to a position in Kobe, Japan but I was born in West L.A. and had my KLR650 shipped to me. I ride with a friend who owns a KLE so I know a little something about them. The first difference you might notice is the KLE runs smoother at most speeds. I think this is partly due to the increased weight and the fact that it is a twin engine. It has the same size tires as the KLR but comes with twin calipers on the front brake. My friend can keep up on the street or dirt and he stops much faster. He also has to be more alert for hazards because the KLE exhaust runs under the engine. There is much turmoil here. The Yen took another dive today. If this lasts long enough you should see lower prices for Japanese motorcycles and other products. I was not sure when talking to Ron that you were serious about trading for an Africa Twin. If you are, then I can search here for you. I can send you a web site for a motorcycle export company here in Japan. Do I attach it to my files that I send here? Peace on your heart, Hiro A10 Thunderbolt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 22:51:01 EDT From: Subject: Re: (klr650) Joe Rocket? I have been using the Ballistic jacket and I like it a lot. I will also shortly purchase the pants to complete the "suit." As you may have already heard the ventilation SUCKS, but in Seattle that usually isn't that big a deal, for long anyway! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 23:13:03 EDT From: Subject: Re: (klr650) jackets In a message dated 98-07-13 19:48:36 EDT, you write: << Gino, if you want some more info for the newsletter, let me know Ryan (89 klr 650) >> Yes, send it in. Thanks. Gino ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 20:33:40 -0700 From: "Robert Morgan" Subject: Re: (klr650) jackets howdy Here is a page with a review of the Darien and Kalahari jackets. Well written, very thorough, with lots of references, links, sources, and comparisons. I'm shopping for a jacket myself. This was helpful. eagle.onr.com/ibmwr/prodreview/jacket.html I hope thats right, if it don't link somebody hollar. peace Morgan (just because everything is different doesn't mean that anything has changed) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 22:38:37 +0000 From: Alex Jomarron Subject: (klr650) (KLR) Trip report (long) Size DOES matter. Once I committed to attending the AMA Vintage Days at Mid-Ohio my only di= fficulty was deciding=20 which bike to ride. Do I take the K75S which I just recently completed a = 4 day round trip blast to=20 Utah with, or do I take the KLR which I=B9m riding to Davis, West Virgini= a next week for the=20 Blackwater 200. I took the KLR reasoning that I=B9m not in a hurry this t= ime, plus I=B9ve never ridden=20 the KLR fully loaded with all my camping gear.=20 I decided on an itinerary avoiding the interstate, taking the KLR=B9s abi= lity to slow tour to a test.=20 Leaving Chicago around noon, I decided to stop and eat in Valparaiso, Ind= iana. Just north of=20 Hwy 30 on Washington street I spied a green sign, Suzie=B9s Cafe & Cateri= ng, Homecooking at its=20 Best!. I=B9m a sucker for anyplace that has homecooking on its sign. Walk= ing in, I found trays of=20 freshly made breads and muffins. After riding through Gary, Indiana, this= change in aroma was=20 welcomed! I ordered a delicious meatloaf sandwich and topped off the meal= with an incredible=20 serving of warm bread pudding. Getting back to the KLR, I mused that I sh= ould increase the=20 preload of the shock a notch. Unlike my blitz around Lake Superior, the K= LR really seemed to=20 be in its element riding the two lane highways at 60-70 mph. While riding= my BMW I find myself=20 using my peripheral vision to enjoy the scenery. On this ride, I found my= self swiveling my head=20 from shoulder to shoulder actually looking at the view. One unusual site = was a guy on a GL1500=20 wearing nothing but shorts. He was even barefoot. I hope he never hits th= e deck.=20 One of the negatives of riding the two laners is the cross traffic. Ridin= g behind a =8C76 Goldwing, a=20 car pulled partially out from an intersection nearly causing the Wing to = lose control under a=20 momentary heavy brake maneuver. The positives, however, far outweigh the= negatives. As I=20 passed through a number of small towns I noticed all the homes with massi= ve porches and=20 swings anchored to their ceilings. Dean Koontz, author of a few aviation-= oriented books once=20 wrote, =B3A summer evening in small-town America. I like it more than wor= ds can express. My life is=20 passing quickly, but by God, I am spending it well.=B2 There is indeed so= mething here that is so=20 Rockwellian, so Americana, I dig it. As I=B9m riding through, my mind dri= fts back to 1975 when I was=20 16. I dreamed of owning either a Yamaha DT 125 or a Honda MT 125. I reall= y liked the blue=20 Honda XL 250 too! How cool would it be to travel the back roads of this c= ountry and explore off=20 road? I could only smile as I flashed forward to the present and listened= to the KLR=B9s mill thump=20 away. The bike hit reserve at 231 miles. The sensation is like opening a = parachute after a free=20 fall. Switching the petcock to reserve, I scan the map and there are plen= ty of towns ahead.=20 Besides, I should be able to go 50 miles on reserve. Wrong! The two towns= I cruised through=20 had no gas stations. Down the road the engine sputtered and finally died = of fuel starvation.=20 Across the road was a guy sitting on his mower shortening his lawn. I chu= ckled at the recollection=20 of the list opinions that the stock KLR sounded like a lawn tractor. Than= ks to the KLR list I leaned=20 the bike 45 degrees to the left and found the secret reserve which propel= led me just a couple of=20 miles. Still stranded. A guy on a Concours (you meet the nicest people on= a Kawasaki! ;-)) stops=20 to offer assistance, but taking his tank off was too much to ask. Instead= I push the bike 50 yards=20 to a house. I ring the bell and an elderly gentleman answers. Using my Vu= lcan (Star Trek, not=20 Kawasaki!) mind control I proceed to ask if I can leave my bike on his pr= operty while I find gas. All=20 the while I=B9m sending telepathic vibes to get him to offer gas. He give= s me directions twice. As I=20 thank him, he says, =B3hold on=B2, then asks me what kind of gas does the= motorcycle take. I=20 respond, =B3sir, it=B9ll run on ANYTHING but diesel.=B2 He walks into his= garage with a plastic 5 gallon=20 can of gas. Hurrah! I thank the Concours rider for stopping and waiting a= nd put fuel in the tank.=20 After thanking the elderly man , I offer to pay him for the fuel, but he = would have none of it. I ask=20 his name and he says, =B3Perkins=B2. Ya gotta love a guy who introduces h= imself using only his last=20 name. Kinda like MacGyver or Bond! He asks me mine. Unable to resist, I o= ffer my hand, and say,=20 =B3Jomarron, Alex Jomarron.=B2=20 I finally arrive at Mid Ohio. I meet with some friends and make some new = ones. I was surprised to=20 hear the many inquiries about the KLR. Many people told me they were look= ing to buy a Dual=20 Purpose bike for their next acquisition. Naturally, I was happy to talk a= bout this new found love of=20 mine. I also mentioned the support available through Gino=B9s excellent n= ewsletter and the=20 Internet website and mailing list. We may have new brethren among us soon= !=20 The campsite adjacent the track had large gravel paths in a grid pattern.= I gleefully rode through=20 them knowing the bike was more capable than I. I even rode into the woods= where I saw dozens=20 of vintage dual sports, trials bikes and motocrossers disappear into. Qu= ickly I was in over my=20 head. I turned around nearly dumping the bike, but I gassed it, and the K= LR bulldozed me out of=20 trouble. I emerged from the trees grinning with some mud on the bike. Vir= gins no longer!!!! I=20 putted around the campsite and the perimeter of track ogling and being og= led. The bike has=20 some fans out there.=20 IF YOU ARE EASILY OFFENDED, SKIP THIS PARAGRAPH. I walked the vendor areas window shopping. I saw a few Honda CB 400Fs, an= MT 125!, and a lot=20 of junk! There were many sticker and t-shirt vendors. Many were, of cours= e crass, but I admit to=20 being a bit sophomoric. Here=B9s two: Back of a T-shirt: =B3If you can read this, the bitch fell off.=B2 Sticker: =B3If its got two wheels or a dick, I can ride it.=B2 Imagine the chick who puts THAT on her bike! I did squeeze in watching a few races. I was introduced to a racer (Alex = McLain) who patiently=20 answered my questions. He=B9s headed off to the Isle of Man soon. I also = did a demo ride. I am=20 interested in adding a third bike to the stable. Something different. A (= GASP!) Cruiser. I rode a=20 Yamaha V-Star. My first choice, a Vulcan, was unavailable, as was my seco= nd the Royal Star. I=20 actually liked it. The weird thing was trying to find the pegs to upshift= after leaving a stop. I had to=20 visually look for the pegs! They were reeeeeally forward. All in all, it = had comfy ergonomics. I=20 won=B9t buy the V-Star, but one day, I=B9ll own a cruiser. Saturday night= my friends and I enjoyed a=20 carnivore fest at a restaurant just north of the track called The Roadhou= se. I had the steak and=20 ribs combo. Many Vintage Days spectators and participants packed the plac= e.=20 The next day, a new friend of mine and I headed an hour south to Westervi= lle, home of the AMA=20 offices and Heritage Museum. The roads taken there were all farm roads, r= olling green hills=20 everywhere. The museum held longer hours due to the AMA sponsored event a= t the track. The=20 current museum theme is: You Meet the Nicest People on a Honda, commemora= ting Honda=B9s=20 50th Anniversary. A lot of memories are in that museum. It reminded me of= the feeling I had=20 when I visited the Baseball Hall of Fame in Cooperstown, NY. It was just = short of a religious=20 experience. After an hour, we returned to the track which was nearly dese= rted. I packed up my=20 tent, bid adieu and headed home.=20 At 233 miles the bike hit reserve. I was 10 miles south of the Ohio Turnp= ike. No problem I=20 thought as I pass a few gas stations. Surely there will be a gas station = at the pike entrance or, I=B9ll=20 just get gas at the first service center on the pike. I take my ticket at= the entrance to the on ramp.=20 As I=B9m entering the curve, in big black letters on an orange background= read, =B3NEXT SERVICES=20 33 MILES.=B2 Shit!!!!!!! Not again!!!!!! I quickly do the math, at 233 m= iles I went to reserve. I have=20 40 miles. Damn! I will fall 3 or 4 miles short!! I immediately went into = the left lane doing 80-85mph=20 looking for a break in the wall to do the illegal U-turn. Mile after mile= passes no break. I am=20 screwed again! Finally, 5 miles later is the break. I pull into the left = shoulder and stop as the=20 oncoming traffic rushed by. I know Murphy=B9s law will rear its ugly head= and I will get nailed. I make=20 the u-turn, check the mirrors. Ha!!! Another motor vehicle law broken wit= h no consequences!! I=20 ride back to the exit and debate on telling the attendant that I lost my = ticket. No, I don=B9t want to=20 pay the toll from the east border. I told her the truth. She charges me $= 4.70 for my stupidity.=20 Then she asks me for my name and address. Before I can give her false inf= ormation, I blabber all=20 my info. Must have been that Vulcan mind control technique. I then ask he= r if I=B9m going to get in=20 trouble for the u-turn. She says no, and thanks me for my honesty. Now I = sit here and wait for an=20 Ohio summons, wondering what her commission is for catching idiots like m= e.=20 It is now past sunset, I get gas and return the to the Turnpike. The 100 = watt bulb I recently=20 installed makes the KLR light work like it should. Just over the Indiana = border I see a dark car on=20 the shoulder. I long haired blonde is at the back of the car. Wanting to = repay Perkins, my good=20 Samaritan, AND meet a damsel in distress, I pulled onto the left shoulder= , ride down the grass=20 median, back up the other side and ride back to the car (Man, this DPing = is fun!). Imagine my=20 sheepish grin under my helmet when Ted Nugent=B9s twin walks up to me. Oh= well. I imagine=20 Perkins would have preferred Sofia Loren needing gas over me too! I let T= ed use my cell phone=20 to summon help and was on my way after passing on Perkins=B9 favor. Cruis= ing along at 70 mph I=20 noticed that cars passed in packs. Riding my BMW, I wasn=B9t used to that= . I did the passing. A pair=20 of headlights came up quickly from behind, changed lanes and passed. It w= as a late model white=20 Ford Econoline Passenger van. Stenciled on the side was the name of a pas= tor and his church.=20 On the back, in large blue block letters was, CHURCH VAN. Here was my rab= bit. I barreled along=20 in tow at 80 mph. Finally, God himslef was my copilot. I arrived home at = 330 am, not having run=20 out of gas. I did make one gas stop, not wanting to tempt fate again.=20 Postscript: The KLR now has 4026 miles. The rear Dunlop is not long for t= his world. Before the=20 trip, I adjusted the counterbalancer (thanks for the help guys!) and it i= s still quiet. Although it was=20 short and slow, I really enjoyed the trip. The love affair continues.=20 Next weekend, I=B9m off to Davis, West Virginia to try my novice hand at = the Blackwater 200 AMA=20 Dual Sport Run. This was my second trip report. If you would like me to p= ost the next one, =20 please let me know as I do not want to impose this on the majority if it = is not wanted. Gino, if you=20 have read this, I would be willing to do a story with pics on the Blackwa= ter for the newsletter. Let=20 me know if you=B9re interested. Alex Jomarron Oak Park, IL, USA 88 BMW K75S 98 Kawasaki KLR 650 The most expensive thing I own is my photo album! ".....I could go east, I could go west, it was all for me to decide............." = -Bob Seger; Roll Me Away ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 20:46:29 -0700 From: "Robert Morgan" Subject: Re: (klr650) Cool Jackets some more http://eagle.onr.com/ibmwr/prodreview/jacket.html ok so try this instead Morgan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 22:35:25 -0700 From: "Kathleen" Subject: Re: (klr650) (KLR) Trip report (long) Alex, Good report and I sure hope that you post your next one! Kath ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 07:19:10 -0400 From: Todd Emsley Subject: Re: (klr650) (KLR) Trip report (long) Alex, I, for one, enjoyed your trip report. It was fun to read it and ride along in my mind, before another long day of work with no riding for another 9 hours! Todd A11 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 08:29:27 From: Robert Kaub Subject: (klr650) Coolant Level I'm wondering if the list could come to a concensus about the proper fill level for the radiator and overflow tank. Mine came from the dealer about half way up the sight glass on the tank. I'm assuming that the radiator is completely full all the time and the expansion volume is handled by the overflow tank. The engine never overheats but the gauge does vary a lot depending on the ambient temperature. This leads me to believe that the thermostat doesn't control the engine temp quite as rigidly as the thermostat in an auto engine and opens up completely at a fairly low temp and then depends on air flow to keep the engine within limits. My gauge has never gone above the half way point even on the hottest day around here (high 80's so far). Currently running 20w50 oil. Thanks. Bob Kaub SUNY Binghamton Watson School Student Shop PO Box 6000 Binghamton, NY 13902 607-777-2715 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 23:42:36 +1000 From: Ted Palmer Subject: Re: (klr650) Coolant Level Robert Kaub wrote: [radiator/overflow bottle level question] > half way up the sight glass on the tank. I'm assuming that the radiator is > completely full all the time and the expansion volume is handled by the > overflow tank. Don't assume this, check it yourself, don't trust the dealer/whoever to bleed the air out of the system properly. The level in the overflow tank is ok if it's between the marks. As long as the hose from the rad to the bottle stays full of coolant, everything is dandy. > The engine never overheats but the gauge does vary a lot > depending on the ambient temperature. As long as it doesn't vary a lot while you're riding, it's ok if it's somewhere around 1/4 to 1/2 way up the gauge. If you see the gauge vary, for example between 1/4 and 1/2 way during a ride in fairly constant running and ambient temp, I suspect the rad level is a bit low. A dealer did a bad service on my bike and didn't bleed the cooling system. On the ride home, the gauge would vary from 1/4 to 3/4 and back in minutes, and this was at night. There wasn't even enough coolant to get to the top of the radiator cores. I made sure that dealer never touched my bike again. > This leads me to believe that the > thermostat doesn't control the engine temp quite as rigidly as the > thermostat in an auto engine and opens up completely at a fairly low temp What does your temp gauge show on cruise in hot weather? (The colder the ambient temps, the warmer my gauge indicates). > and then depends on air flow to keep the engine within limits. My gauge has > never gone above the half way point even on the hottest day around here > (high 80's so far). Currently running 20w50 oil. Thanks. While a 650 single-radiator system appears to have less cooling area than my twin-rad 600, it should still be enough in normal use. The temp on my bike is quite stable. I can't remember the last time the fan even engaged, so I assume that the thermostat (original, from 1985) is doing it's job. Perhaps my twin rads have a greater reserve supply of cool water to draw on. I've always mixed my own coolant using concentrate and distilled water. It's only a litre and a bit, so it doesn't break the bank to change it every year. Mister_T ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 10:39:39 -0400 From: James Naus Subject: RE: (klr650) (KLR) Trip report (long) Nice report. Keep them coming. James Tallahassee, FL '95 KLX650C > -----Original Message----- Snip.=20 > Next weekend, I=B9m off to Davis, West Virginia to try my novice hand = at > the Blackwater 200 AMA=20 > Dual Sport Run. This was my second trip report. If you would like me > to post the next one, =20 > please let me know as I do not want to impose this on the majority if > it is not wanted. Gino, if you=20 > have read this, I would be willing to do a story with pics on the > Blackwater for the newsletter. Let=20 > me know if you=B9re interested. >=20 > Alex Jomarron > Oak Park, IL, USA > 88 BMW K75S > 98 Kawasaki KLR 650 > The most expensive thing I own is my photo album! >=20 > ".....I could go east, I could go west, > it was all for me to decide............." > =20 > -Bob Seger; Roll Me Away ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 09:57:48 -0600 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: Re: (klr650) Cool Jackets some more - -----Original Message----- From: Robert Morgan To: klr650@lists.xmission.com ; Timothy.Royer@bakeroiltools.com Date: Monday, July 13, 1998 9:51 PM Subject: Re: (klr650) Cool Jackets some more >http://eagle.onr.com/ibmwr/prodreview/jacket.html >ok so try this instead >Morgan Nice link Robert, there are comments from riders on other jackets as well. I have a Roadcrafter and a Darien. I like them both but love the Darien.... Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 12:18:40 EDT From: Subject: (klr650) Air Box Does anyone knows about the advantages of NKR air box, Price and where to get them for? Thanks, Yann ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 11:02:42 -0600 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: Re: (klr650) Air Box - -----Original Message----- From: YSTaurel@aol.com To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Date: Tuesday, July 14, 1998 10:20 AM Subject: (klr650) Air Box >Does anyone knows about the advantages of NKR air box, Price and where to get >them for? > >Thanks, > >Yann > > Yann, do you mean the K&N products? I've not heard of NKR. If you are talking about K&N, a lot of us run them and you can get them through Fred Hink, MAW or almost anywhere. They work very well. You do need a stock airbox to mount them though...I seem to recall you saying your box was toast. You might try a uni "sock" that mounts directly to the carby and see how it works. Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 11:11:25 -0600 From: "Anton Perdices" Subject: (klr650) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:09:02 -0400 Anybody willing to trade a klr650 for a GPZ 750 trubo? Anton Perdices Specialist, Development and Support Information Services NORTEL CALA Inc. * 954-851-8753 (ESN 228) * 954-851-8499 (ESN 228) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:28:51 -0400 From: "Anton Perdices" Subject: (klr650) KLR Trade? > Anybody willing to trade a klr650 for a GPZ 750 trubo? > > Anton Perdices > Specialist, Development and Support > Information Services > NORTEL CALA Inc. > * 954-851-8753 (ESN 228) > * 954-851-8499 (ESN 228) > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:23:28 -0400 From: "David Sim" Subject: Re: (klr650) jackets I had been looking at enduro jackets for several years and really couldn't justify the $300 price for them. Well I just bought an MSR for $93 CDN. It's not goretex and it doesn't fold into it's own fanny pack. It is unlined with no armour. I got it extra big to fit over my chest protector (when I'm riding my WR) or my Aerostitch fleece jacket (when I'm riding my KLR). It's well ventilated and ideal for the hot stuff. For the price, I am ecstatic! I got it at Royal Distributing (a snowmobile parts retailer) Call 1-800-265-2970. Dave Sim STOC 244 Kitchener, Ontario - ---------- > From: Stuart Heaslet > To: klr650@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: (klr650) jackets > Date: July 13, 1998 8:29 PM > > Ryan, does the Vanson Avenger jacket have a number of ventilation slots? > I'm another who's looking for a hot weather jacket in south Florida... > Stuart > 1998 KLR 650 > > At 06:45 PM 7/13/98 -0500, Ryan Combs wrote: > >I have a Vanson Avenger in cordura that works very well in the heat and > >high humidity. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:42:29 -0700 From: Chris Beasley Subject: Re: (klr650) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:09:02 -0400 Yeah, I would. Except I don't have the GPZ anymore :) And I got a KLR :p b Anton Perdices wrote: > Anybody willing to trade a klr650 for a GPZ 750 trubo? > > Anton Perdices > Specialist, Development and Support > Information Services > NORTEL CALA Inc. > * 954-851-8753 (ESN 228) > * 954-851-8499 (ESN 228) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 17:03:25 -0400 From: Dave Wormmeester Subject: RE: (klr650) (KLR) Trip report (long) - -----Original Message----- From: Alex Jomarron [SMTP:alex319@IDT.NET] Sent: Monday, July 13, 1998 6:39 PM To: KLR650 list Subject: (klr650) (KLR) Trip report (long) This was my second trip report. If you would like me to post the next one, please let me know as I do not want to impose this on the majority if it is not wanted. Keep it coming! Anyone else? Dave W. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 15:07:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan Brown Subject: Re: (klr650) Tampa-Montreal Chris, it's not an offical list but here's what's in my toolbag when I go on a long trip, any motorcycle, hope you find it useful... - - Chain Lube (small can wrapped in a plastic bag) - - Spark Plug - - Oil Filter (the KLR's are small so why not?) - - 1 quart oil (sometimes more) - - 2 pieces of clothes line (cotton rope) about 4' each - - Cargo net - - Brake fluid - - The tools that came with the bike (they aren't great but I don't worry about loosing them) - - adjustable wrench and vise grips - - Screw driver with multiple types and sized bits - - hacksaw blade with small handle - - 1 fine, 1 course emery cloth - - rags - - duct tape - - tube of silicon - - gasket in a tube - - Bic lighter - - 2 motorcycle tie downs (used for large ferrys or when all goes bad and a kind person with a truck or trailer comes along.) - - 2 large garbage bags (to put things in when it rains) - - small tube of hand cleaner - - Paper towels - - Sharp swiss army knife - - spare bulbs - - spare fuses - - Air pressure gauge - - I forget the name of it but it looks like a giant syringe (with a hose instead of a needle) and is used to adjust the air pressure in the forks. - - a few coffee filters (in case I need to get water for the radiator from a stream) - - Small first aid kit wrapped in plastic - - Small flashlight - - I then get really carried away because I also bring a small amount of cleaner (honda bright or S100 and wax so I can work on the bike if I am waiting for something or someone. - - Soon I will add the tools necessary to repair a flat. - - I haven't adjusted the valves on my KLR myself yet (only 3,600 miles)but on my old Honda I also always brought my valve adjusting tools. - - I want to add Electricals diagnostic tools - - If you don't know the bike real well, bring a manual. I probably missed some things, this is from memory. I know it looks like a lot but most are small, light items that you will hopefully never need. My KLR is my first water cooled bike. Anyone have any suggestions on what to bring for street/trail repairs for the cooling system? Oh yeah, I will never, ever, again pack my tools with my clothes. Ever see what happens when a can of chain lube punctures? - ---Christian Kindarji wrote: > > I'm planning for 3 days trip from Tampa to Montreal on my KLR650. That will > be my first long ride. > Does anybody knows where I could get a list of preventive stuff I should > take with me? tools ? > Should I get a kind of AAA road assistance kind of membership ? > I'll appreciate any help or recommendation. Thank you. > > Chris > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 17:53:34 -0500 From: "Lowell Mattox" Subject: Re: (klr650) Tampa-Montreal Chris K. wrote: >I'm planning for 3 days trip from Tampa to Montreal on my KLR650. That will >be my first long ride. >Does anybody knows where I could get a list of preventive stuff I should >take with me? tools ? >Should I get a kind of AAA road assistance kind of membership ? >I'll appreciate any help or recommendation. Thank you. Hello Chris, a couple of things: 1. Buy Bill Stermer's book Motorcycle Touring and Travel (Whitehorse Press carries it). It covers everything about long distance travel, has a packing list etc.etc. 2. I've used Motorcycle Towing Service protection for the last 3 years. Had to use it yesterday, as a matter of fact. They're in Las Vegas at 1-800-999-7064. They claim to only ever send crews who know about moving motorcycles, have 24-hour dispatch, trip routing, etc. 3. Always wear ear plugs. Make sure they're in all the way. You'll be 100% less fatigued if you use them. My $.02 Lowell Mattox St. Louis ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V1 #135 ****************************