From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V1 #137 Reply-To: $SENDER Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Wednesday, July 15 1998 Volume 01 : Number 137 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:27:46 EDT From: Subject: Re: (klr650) And people wonder...why I sold my BMW On 7/15/98, efpoklu@sandia.gov wrote: snip >....And people wonder why I have a hard time dealing with the >BMW crowd. I rest my case. I hang my head in shame as a former BMW owner. Luckily I woke up one night while visiting a local brew pub. An obviously intoxicated fellow stumbled up to the bar and shouted, "All BMW riders are @$$holes." The room became very quiet until another man approached and screamed back, "Hey buddy, I take offence to that remark". The first guy was taken back and sheepishly asked, "Do you ride a BMW?". The second gent replied, " NO, I'm an @$$hole!!". CA Ron (livin' in the land of credit filled streets;) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:31:22 -0600 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: Re: (klr650) Coolant Level - -----Original Message----- From: Todd Emsley To: Robert Kaub Cc: klr650@lists.xmission.com Date: Wednesday, July 15, 1998 4:50 AM Subject: Re: (klr650) Coolant Level >List, > > After rejetting my A11, temperature concerns are a thing of the past >for me. The only time my fan comes on is after extended idling, 5 to 10 >mins. When the bike is moving the temp stays at around 1/8 to 1/4. My >humble opinion is the hotter engine temp is a byproduct of the factory >lean jetting across the entire rpm range, not just the low speed mix. >Anyone with engine temp concerns could try going a little richer to cool >things down. It has worked great for me. The great power is just a >BONUS! > > Todd A11 cooler than ever > I've been wondering why my A12 is similarly blessed, temps in the 100's this week in Salt Lake City and my temp gauge is generally around 1/3 and never more than 1/2 in traffic. Maybe you are right. Mine is running like a freight train since I popped off the airbox cover.... Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:34:10 -0600 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: Re: (klr650) Jackets - -----Original Message----- From: Bill Wright To: wass Cc: klr650@lists.xmission.com Date: Wednesday, July 15, 1998 5:28 AM Subject: Re: (klr650) Jackets >wass wrote: > >> I've been seeing alot of interest in jackets the last couple of days and >> I am in the market for a new one as well and was wondering are the >> gore-tex jackets actually WATERPROOF I mean could you leave home without >> a rainsuit I am looking at the Joe Rocket,Cortech,Hein Geirke Ballastic, >> or the motoports any help would be great. >> >> Scott Wass > > Scott, > >My Aerostich Darien jacket and pants have worked a number of times in the >wet. Most recently I road 108 miles in a driving rain. The only water that >I noticed was about 4 inches of the bottom of my pant legs were damp. I >forgot to pack my galoshes!. This is also with a stock windshield. A >taller windshield would provide even more protection. One note: the >exterior pockets do allow some water in. I got my map wet this way. > >Bill Wright >Hotlanta, GA. >98 KLR 650 - 12427 miles > Ditto for me Bill, a couple of weeks ago I found myself caught in a torrential thunder and hailstorm. The cagers were looking on with pity at me (I appreciated that...) but I was dry as a bone in the Darien.... Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:38:07 -0600 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: Re: (klr650) Ride Your Bike Day - -----Original Message----- From: Robert Kaub To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Date: Wednesday, July 15, 1998 6:16 AM Subject: (klr650) Ride Your Bike Day >Today was supposed to be the day everyone who could would ride their bikes >to work. To promote positive awareness of folks who ride bikes and all >that. Well, I rode mine and saw only one other rider, a Harley-dude who >looked like he wasn't quite sure what planet he was on. This was 7AM on a >slightly foggy and cool morning but I expected to see more bikes. I guess >I'm kinda disappointed. Thanks. >Bob Kaub >SUNY Binghamton >Watson School Student Shop >PO Box 6000 >Binghamton, NY 13902 >607-777-2715 > > I rode today...I'm waving at you Bob... Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:39:57 -0500 From: "Royer, Timothy E." Subject: (klr650) light jacket Hey from that B'mer jacket review I found this for hot weather. Body Gard from Motoport (1-800-777-6499) $99. I called, and they are sending Info It sound like just what I need. Anybody on the list tried one? It's not that I'm not willing to shell out for good equipment, it's just that I have to go groveling on my knees to my better half whenever I spend money on my one and only hobby (back road bombin). I carry a cheap ($24) rain suit rolled up on my bike at all times, and cold weather in south Texas is a one month phenomena. I do have an aversion to road rash though (been there, done that, long time ago). So I'm doing my research and getting the best value for my buck. Tim Royer (98 KLR650 Kaw-Thump, the back road bomber) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:15:29 +0000 From: Alex Jomarron Subject: (klr650) KLR in the midst of GSes In response to Gino's post about the guy whose friends were afraid his KLR couldn't hang on a 3000 mile trip: That poor guy riding his KLR in the company of BMW GSes is going to be stuck when his friends diode boards and rotors go south. If his friends Paralevers have over 40k, those too will frag causing the poor KLR guy to be stuck at some BMW shop waiting for his friends repairs................. Alex Jomarron Oak Park, IL 88 BMW K75S 98 KLR 650 & FORMER owner of an Airhead ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:38:21 -0400 From: "J. Taylor" Subject: (klr650) Body-Gard Armor I have been riding in my Motoport Body-Gard Armor For nearly 2 years now. It is the ULTIMATE in ventilation and washes with the armor in in the washing machine no problemo. It fits nicely under my Gericke rainsuit and provides a nice little pocket of ventilation between me and the rain suit. I bought it after one of the guys in a south Florida riding club I was in went down in one and suffered no ill effects. The Motoport folks will replace just the jacket should you wipe and can still use the armor. MAKE SURE THEY HAVE ONE IN STOCK-Motoport is notorious for backorders. Some jackets they will only "sew up" based on monthly orders. The Body-Gard was that way for a while but I think its changed over the last year. @ $99 its been a nice addition but expect about a month of steady wear before the armor, which is quite thick I might add, finally breaks in. Jake in Jacksonville,FL (where 100% humidity/100degree temps laugh in the face of ventilated riding gear.) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:26:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Rex Hefferan Subject: (klr650) Aluminum and Plastic repairs DIY Listers, I had a email exchange with Ted Palmer some time ago and the question of silver soldering Aluminum radiators was asked. Here may be just the product to do such repairs and much more. For those of us who have done damage to our plastic side covers, check out the last site. If anyone has used any of these or similar products please let me know. For Aluminum (and other metals) repair using a soldering method with propane torch and solder stick Durafix has the best website IMHO; http://www.durafix.com/ Here's another source; http://www.divescoinc.com/ Solder-It is a paste style product better for smaller more delicate repairs or projects. (electronics) Of particular interest is "Solder-It Plastic Weld" which could be used to repair plastic body parts. http://www.solder-it.com/solderit.htm There may be other sources you may know of, please reply Thanks _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:35:16 -0700 From: "Jeffrey L. Walker" Subject: Re: (klr650) Coolant Level >List, > > After rejetting my A11, temperature concerns are a thing of the past >for me. The only time my fan comes on is after extended idling, 5 to 10 >mins. When the bike is moving the temp stays at around 1/8 to 1/4. My >humble opinion is the hotter engine temp is a byproduct of the factory >lean jetting across the entire rpm range, not just the low speed mix. >Anyone with engine temp concerns could try going a little richer to cool >things down. It has worked great for me. The great power is just a >BONUS! Did you do any other mods besides the rejetting? And what jets specifically did you use? Thanks, Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:32:57 -0400 From: Stuart Heaslet Subject: Re: (klr650) Ride Your Bike Day I'm trying to wave at you, but I'm waiting for this pesky Level Five thunderstorm to pass. Stuart 1998 KLR Juno Beach, Florida At 08:12 AM 7/15/98 +0000, Robert Kaub wrote: >Today was supposed to be the day everyone who could would ride their bikes >to work. To promote positive awareness of folks who ride bikes and all >that. Well, I rode mine and saw only one other rider, a Harley-dude who >looked like he wasn't quite sure what planet he was on. This was 7AM on a >slightly foggy and cool morning but I expected to see more bikes. I guess >I'm kinda disappointed. Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:40:31 From: Robert Kaub Subject: (klr650) KLR vs. BMW In regard to the post about the BMW folks afraid to ride with a KLR, I think that those guys are really not your (our) friends. There could be an elitist dynamic at work here. Since BMW bikes cost so much that a relative few can afford them, some of those who ride them might consider themselves special and resent the poor folks trying to attach themselves to the fringes of their group for whatever reason. If I felt unwelcome, I wouldn't go with them. At least they do wave to other bikers, though. Thanks. Bob Kaub SUNY Binghamton Watson School Student Shop PO Box 6000 Binghamton, NY 13902 607-777-2715 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:51:12 From: Robert Kaub Subject: (klr650) CHEAP? I just turned 2000 miles on the bike and am gonna change the oil. I've already changed the oil and filter twice, once at 500 miles and again at 1000 miles. The question is do I really need to change the filter again with only 1000 miles on it? Or, am I just being too cheap? Thanks. Bob Kaub SUNY Binghamton Watson School Student Shop PO Box 6000 Binghamton, NY 13902 607-777-2715 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:00:10 -0700 From: "Jeffrey L. Walker" Subject: Re: (klr650) Jackets wrote: > >> I've been seeing alot of interest in jackets the last couple of days and >> I am in the market for a new one as well and was wondering are the >> gore-tex jackets actually WATERPROOF I mean could you leave home without >> a rainsuit I am looking at the Joe Rocket,Cortech,Hein Geirke Ballastic, >> or the motoports any help would be great. >> >> Scott Wass > > Scott, > >My Aerostich Darien jacket and pants have worked a number of times in the >wet. Most recently I road 108 miles in a driving rain. The only water that >I noticed was about 4 inches of the bottom of my pant legs were damp. I >forgot to pack my galoshes!. This is also with a stock windshield. A >taller windshield would provide even more protection. One note: the >exterior pockets do allow some water in. I got my map wet this way. > Its been my experience with using Gortex in the field in the Army, (I even was part of an experimental test group once for new Gortex jackets) that Gortex will keep you dry up to a point...but after a while....the fabric becomes saturated and stops being water resistant. You get wet under, and lose some insulation as well. Don't get me wrong, we were glad to have them, and if you were in the field and sweating the Gortex still kept you somewhat warm and allowed your sweat to evaporate. They worked much better than the plastic rain gear, with that stuff you got soaked from the inside out since your sweat couldn't evaporate out. Spray on water repellent like "Camp Dry" helped delay the inevitable, but the Gortex still became saturated over time. Riding with my Kilimanjaro, I can't say enough good things about it. It has proved to be totally water proof at 65 + MPH in torrential downpours on my 50 + mile commute (one way). I still wear my Army Gortex rain pants with the Kilimanjaro, because I haven't been able to afford the First Gear pants yet. The pants become saturated and soaked especially from the knees down by the end of the ride. On especially cold and rainy days, I was wearing a one piece plastic rainsuit over the Kilimanjaro (without the Gortex pants). For boots I wear my Army Corcoran Jump boots, Kiwi polished to an inch of their lives and thus waterproof. One day I got caught short by the weather and was wearing my jungle boots instead (nylon uppers, ventilated lowers) My feet got soaked and I was near hypothermic when I got home. Good gear makes all the difference. Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:08:54 -0700 From: Chris Beasley Subject: Re: (klr650) Ride Your Bike Day Rob, Is that a national thing or local? How did you hear about it? I rode my bike today but hey, this is California. b Robert Kaub wrote: > Today was supposed to be the day everyone who could would ride their bikes > to work. To promote positive awareness of folks who ride bikes and all > that. Well, I rode mine and saw only one other rider, a Harley-dude who > looked like he wasn't quite sure what planet he was on. This was 7AM on a > slightly foggy and cool morning but I expected to see more bikes. I guess > I'm kinda disappointed. Thanks. > Bob Kaub > SUNY Binghamton > Watson School Student Shop > PO Box 6000 > Binghamton, NY 13902 > 607-777-2715 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:11:46 -0700 (PDT) From: frjsmithjr@webtv.net (Francis Smith) Subject: Fwd: Re: (klr650) Roadside Assistance for Bikes - --WebTV-Mail-2133346443-21 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit - --WebTV-Mail-2133346443-21 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUAuyYwZDwouStKpyqr/Go1RpSBPEcCFEAtIoRWWE03B0Duj5QPlYj/ArOn From: frjsmithjr@webtv.net (Francis Smith) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:05:28 -0700 (PDT) To: vfr750@gte.net Subject: Re: (klr650) Roadside Assistance for Bikes Message-ID: <28488-35ACE158-26@mailtod-142.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Dean: Knock on wood, I've never had to use the service. I pay $25.00 a year for all three bikes. (you can only ride one at a time, right?) Yes, MTS claims to contract only with towing companies that are set with up or have special rigs for motorcycles. Jim '98 KLR '98 GL 1500 '98 Bandit 1200 - --WebTV-Mail-2133346443-21-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:17:16 -0700 (PDT) From: frjsmithjr@webtv.net (Francis Smith) Subject: Fwd: Re: (klr650) Gas Tank - --WebTV-Mail-1163593252-19 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit - --WebTV-Mail-1163593252-19 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhQd2Nf88+8xB3bfdloxT/Qr2z+MmwIVAJhcTKmqY9DVXhjIFRMrcxf2rjOJ From: frjsmithjr@webtv.net (Francis Smith) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:15:55 -0700 (PDT) To: vesannlewis@juno.com Subject: Re: (klr650) Gas Tank Message-ID: <28490-35ACE3CB-33@mailtod-142.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Ves: The operative word here is BLEND. Each time you fill up, you're blending new gas with the old. It is a non-problem. Jim - --WebTV-Mail-1163593252-19-- ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V1 #137 ****************************