From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V1 #148 Reply-To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Tuesday, July 21 1998 Volume 01 : Number 148 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 23:31:49 -0700 From: Tom Simpson Subject: (klr650) Oil Wars: The Final Chapter? It is with considerable glee that I report a final resolution to the car vs. bike oil wars. Effective in the next week or so, AutoZone (and a western-based chain that I cant recall) will be selling the new motorcycle-specific version of Mobil One synthetic motor oil. Yee-ha! - -Tom Having his cake and eating it, too. '96 KLR 650 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 22:49:39 -0500 From: Chadd Thompson Subject: (klr650) Jet kit. Well I finally got around to puting in my jet kit this weekend. Not too hard to install didn't really take all that long. I had the K&N kit and went with the stage one and I think the 136 jet. Anyway I can tell a difference in the way the bike runs. Starts easier throttle is more crisp and no more surge :O) not sure of any affects on milage yet. It almost seems that I am in the rich condition now though seems to load up a little at high speed. I ordered a K&N filter and the Super Trapp from the local shop today and it should be here this week, also ordered progessive springs. I hope these items will make some more improvments especially the nose dive front end. I took pictures during the jet kit install of items that I thought were confusing in the install wright ups that I have veiwed. If anyone wants copies of the pics with short descriptions let me know and I can send them to ya. I have also been looking for a Kawasaki Concours to add to the stable if anyone knows of a good used one in the $3000-$4000 range please pass it on. Thanks Chadd Thompson chadd@accessus.net ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 23:07:26 -0600 From: "skip faulkner" Subject: Re: (klr650) Kickstands >I usually do end up using things like wood planks or large rocks that I >find laying around when I put the bike on its stand, just to keep it >middle ground. I'm thinking of trying to find a welder to cut the "pad" >at the bottom off at the seam, and having an inch or so of tube added, and >the pad reattached to the bottom. Kind of a complicated pain, but... > Carlos, I don`t know if you`ve modified your stand yet since I`m just catching up on the list, (I went to the BMW Rallye and took an extra couple of days and went riding with some guys) but what I`ve done to my past two bikes might work for you. On my now present KLR and on my R100GS (it was heavier and I had soft ground problems with it) I cut my stand 5 inches from the bottom, found some 1/8 th inch wall tubing small enough to slide inside the original (8 inches for mine, you may want more or less but 8 gave me another 3 inches) and welded another pad on (about 1 inch wider and 1/2 inch longer than the original), drilled a 5/16 inch hole 1/2 inch from the bottom of the still attached original, slid the new piece in an inch and proceedeed to mark holes to be drilled every inch on center till my last hole would place my stand two inches shorter than original. I then reamed the holes with a round file to allow my 5/16 clevis pin to easily slide in each hole, zinc chromated the new piece and the exposed end I cut and painted silver. I made a 4x4 inch plate with a welded on pocket that slips over the stand plate for really soft ground and slips nicely in my tool pouch. I now have a fully adjustable side stand and it works great. It sounds like a lot of work but it didn`t take that long. You can do all the work yourself with hand tools, hacksaw and drill and when your to the stand plate, take that to your welder. If you want to take it a step farther, have ears welded to the stand plate and instead of welding it on, drill holes through the bottom of the stand tube and ears of the plate and put a bolt through it not to tightly, this will allow the plate to pivot and self adjust to to the terrain your on. - ----Skip (who has to use my stand to get on my bike when loaded)----- (the bike, not me) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 23:14:46 -0600 From: "skip faulkner" Subject: Re: (klr650) Solid Foam Tube - -----Original Message----- From: Cloudhid@aol.com To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Date: Saturday, July 11, 1998 10:03 PM Subject: Re: (klr650) Solid Foam Tube > >you wrote: > >>overheat quickly at >>highway speeds. > > That's what I thought. Thanks Tom. > Ron > Ron, For future reference and the archives, foam tubes are cheaper than Viagra and they really do heat up when the used to fast. - -----------------------Skip------------------------------------------------- - ----------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 01:28:29 EDT From: Subject: Re: (klr650) Oil Wars: The Final Chapter? Please try to support your local motorcycle retailer. Thanks, Walter ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 21:06:28 -0700 From: "Dean Harrison" Subject: Re: (klr650) Oil Wars: The Final Chapter? The 'Yee-ha' may diminish when you find out it costs $9 per quart. Also sold at Schucks Automotive. Dean in Seattle - ---------- > From: Tom Simpson > To: klr650@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (klr650) Oil Wars: The Final Chapter? > Date: Monday, July 20, 1998 11:31 PM > > > > It is with considerable glee that I report a final resolution > to the car vs. bike oil wars. Effective in the next week or so, > AutoZone (and a western-based chain that I cant recall) will > be selling the new motorcycle-specific version of Mobil One > synthetic motor oil. > > > Yee-ha! > > > -Tom > Having his cake and eating it, too. > '96 KLR 650 > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 07:12:01 -0700 From: Tom Simpson Subject: Re: (klr650) Oil Wars: The Final Chapter? At 01:28 AM 7/21/98 EDT, WKPII@aol.com wrote: >Please try to support your local motorcycle retailer. Given my negative experience with Golden Spectro, Ill be buying by filters from my dealer, not my oil. - -Tom '96 KLR 650 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 07:15:01 -0400 From: Bill Wright Subject: (klr650) Nolan Helmets Gino (and anyone else who has a Nolan), I'm thinking about a new helmet and have been looking at the N100. I understand you purchased one after your unscheduled get off. I have a few questions for you: 1. Do you ride with the chin guard up and does it feel top heavy or catch the wind.? 2. Since the chin bar is moveable, do you think it provides enough protection? 3. Could it accidentally come up in the event of a crash? 4. Does the visor open independently of the chin bar? 5. How is the ventilation? 6. Is the lining removable for cleaning? 7. Did you get the breath deflector and wind protector with yours? Bill Wright Hotlanta, GA. 98 KLR650 - "Special K" - 13K miles ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 07:14:34 -0700 From: Tom Simpson Subject: Re: (klr650) Oil Wars: The Final Chapter? At 09:06 PM 7/20/98 -0700, Dean Harrison wrote: >The 'Yee-ha' may diminish when you find out it costs $9 per quart. Also >sold at Schucks Automotive. I'll go with that. It's gotta' work beter than the Golden Spectro @ almost $7) did. - -Tom '96 KLR 650 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 22:23:22 +1000 From: Ted Palmer Subject: Re: (klr650) Battery/Starting Dennis Lee Lacy wrote: > Recently, I started my bike and it ran for about a minute and then it > died. I had been having trouble with the battery off and on for about a > year, so I just replaced it. That solved the problem. Does this sound > right? Has this happened to anyone else? My KLR is a 1996. Batteries can do weird things. I chased a strange "electrical" problem for nearly two days before I got the notion to put a meter onto the battery. I'm only surprised that Dennis' battery only lasted 2 years. The original Yuasa in my 600 went for seven years, the replacement only lasted 4 years (which is why I didn't originally suspect it). Mister_T ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 08:37:45 EDT From: Subject: (klr650) Fwd: BMW MOA in Missoula This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --part0_901024666_boundary Content-ID: <0_901024666@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII In a message dated 98-07-20 20:37:27 EDT, efpoklu@sandia.gov writes: << BMW rallies are fun, but too big for me. I get a kick out of all of the gadgets that are available. The National Thumper Rally (in Red River,NM first week in September) is far more entertaining than any of the 3 BMW rallies and the HOG rally I have been too. Only about 100 bikes show up to these Thumper rallies, but the people are some of the neatest folks you'd ever want to meet. Gino >> I would assume that this statement just means that the KLR people are the neatest of the neatest since we're just a subset of the Thumper folks? Of course coming from Gino, that goes without saying.. :-) MN Ron (having to write something so you won't miss me) - --part0_901024666_boundary Content-ID: <0_901024666@inet_out.mail.aol.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from relay17.mx.aol.com (relay17.mail.aol.com [172.31.106.71]) by air13.mail.aol.com (v45.21) with SMTP; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 20:37:26 -0400 Received: from bodhi.dorje.com (inet-gw.dorje.com [199.45.131.14]) by relay17.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id UAA18345; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 20:37:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bodhi (server@localhost.dorje.com [127.0.0.1]) by bodhi.dorje.com (8.7.1/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA01997; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 18:28:57 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 18:28:57 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199807210028.SAA01997@bodhi.dorje.com> Errors-To: gnome@dorje.com Reply-To: dust@dorje.com Originator: dust@dorje.com Sender: dust@dorje.com Precedence: bulk From: "Pokluda, Gino F" To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: RE: BMW MOA in Missoula X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Dual Sport Touring list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit BMW rallies are fun, but too big for me. I get a kick out of all of the gadgets that are available. The National Thumper Rally (in Red River,NM first week in September) is far more entertaining than any of the 3 BMW rallies and the HOG rally I have been too. Only about 100 bikes show up to these Thumper rallies, but the people are some of the neatest folks you'd ever want to meet. Gino - --part0_901024666_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 06:25:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Rex Hefferan Subject: (klr650) (NKLR) Web based Translator Gino and anyone else, Bookmark the below URL for the next time you need to translate something. It's usually not too great at what it does, but it's better than nothing. (Bonus: can be amusing as well) http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com/cgi-bin/translate? I tried it with Hugos' post and it sort of worked, see below; Please, necesitaria to buy the manual tecnico or of mecanica of 650 Tengai model 1991, since I can make to consegir it and whichever bond? Thank you very much. Rex (helping the world to communicate since 1998) _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 10:38:37 EDT From: Subject: Re: (klr650) Oil Wars: The Final Chapter? Good morning, There are other oils. Bel-Ray, Castrol Motorcycle, Maxima, Motul, Klotz, Blendzall. Give these oils a try. They are all fine products. I personally like the Castrol and Motul. Walter ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 10:41:01 -0400 From: Bill Wright Subject: Re: (klr650) Manuals Robert Kaub wrote: > I rode to Scranton, PA 50 miles) this past Saturday to a dealer called > "Jim Murray's Kawasaki Sales & Service" (717-342-3280) to see if he would > order a set of service manuals for me. Well, he STOCKS service manuals and > had the KLR set on the shelf. They cost me $38.06 total for the set. > The parts guy claimed that they were the oldest Kawasaki dealer in PA > having been in business since the late 60's. They only sell Kawasaki. > What a pleasant ride and surprise it was. Thanks. > Bob Kaub Bob, I called "your" dealer in PA. and ordered some parts and saved 10% over my local dealer even including shipping. They don't charge state sales tax for out of state sales which can cover the shipping charges. When I told them I got their number off the internet, they gave me their toll free number, (800)-713-3057, and said "pass it on". This appears to be a good, conscientious dealership. Check it out! Bill Wright Hotlanta, GA. 98 KLR 650 "Special - K" - 13K miles ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 12:41:13 From: Robert Kaub Subject: (klr650) Sprockets Sooner or later we're gonna have to change sprockets (and chains). What's the story on rear sprockets? Specifically, steel vs. aluminum and slots between the teeth for self-cleaning. Thanks. Bob Kaub SUNY Binghamton Watson School Student Shop PO Box 6000 Binghamton, NY 13902 607-777-2715 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 13:05:17 From: Robert Kaub Subject: (klr650) Coolant/Silicates Texaco Dex-Cool extended life coolant (100,000 miles in cars) does NOT contain silicates. When I have to change the coolant in my bike I plan to use it and never change it again. Thanks. Bob Kaub SUNY Binghamton Watson School Student Shop PO Box 6000 Binghamton, NY 13902 607-777-2715 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 13:49:35 -0400 From: Bill Wright Subject: (klr650) Plastic Parts Hey Guys, I suppose I would have heard of it by now, but are there any suppliers of body plastic other than the dealers. I have trashed the 2 side panels by carrying saddlebags with no racks. The best price I have found so far is $71.70 each. (ouch!) Any help would be appreciated. Bill Wright Hotlanta, GA. 98 KLR 650 - "Special K" - 13K miles ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 11:27:57 -0700 From: "Dean Harrison" Subject: Re: (klr650) Oil Wars: The Final Chapter? I'm sure your statement is totally accurate but what I always wonder is- what's there to like about an oil? It either does a good job of protection, in which case you can't see what it does or see how well it does it -or you have an engine failure. Unless you have test data which seems scarce to me, how do you pick one over the other, price? - ---------- > From: WKPII@aol.com > To: bullet@scsn.net > Cc: klr650@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: (klr650) Oil Wars: The Final Chapter? > Date: Tuesday, July 21, 1998 7:38 AM > > Good morning, > There are other oils. Bel-Ray, Castrol Motorcycle, Maxima, Motul, Klotz, > Blendzall. Give these oils a try. They are all fine products. I personally > like the Castrol and Motul. > > Walter ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 12:24:02 -0600 From: bruixot@rmi.net Subject: Re: (klr650) (NKLR) Web based Translator A (usually) far better online translator (select either German or Spanish to English): http://www.gmsmuc.de/english/trans.html But all online translators get confused when the original text lacks the necessary accents and other diacritical marks :-0 Rex Hefferan wrote: > Gino and anyone else, Bookmark the below URL for the next time you > need to translate something. It's usually not too great at what it > does, but it's better than nothing. (Bonus: can be amusing as well) > > http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com/cgi-bin/translate? > > I tried it with Hugos' post and it sort of worked, see below; > > Please, necesitaria to buy the manual tecnico or of mecanica of 650 > Tengai model 1991, since I can make to consegir it and whichever bond? > Thank you very much. > > Rex (helping the world to communicate since 1998) > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V1 #148 ****************************