From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V1 #172 Reply-To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Sunday, August 9 1998 Volume 01 : Number 172 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 13:00:39 -0600 From: "Fred Hink" Subject: Re: (klr650) Honda XR 650L Mirrors -----Original Message----- From: John L. Wilson To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Date: Wednesday, August 05, 1998 9:43 PM Subject: (klr650) Honda XR 650L Mirrors I read in the July/August 1998 Issue of Kawasaki 650 Dual Sport News (Page 13) under Carl's Corner: Technical Insights, that Honda XR650L mirrors are recommended to minimize fuzzy images in KLR 650 mirrors. This is because the XR650L mirrors have vibration dampeners built in. According to the article, they work great. My question to the LIST is whether the Honda Mirrors will thread into the KLR mounts or do you have to buy the Honda mirror and the Honda mount? John, The XR650L mirror damper won't fit the KLR mirror. You can't buy just the damper. The Honda mirror and damper sells for about $31 and will fit the KLR. According to the expert that I spoke with a 77-78 Suzuki GS 750 has a mirror damper that will work and costs about $11. Fred Hink moabmc@lasal.net Arrowhead Motorsports http://cctr.umkc.edu/user/khink/moabmc/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 12:04:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Rex Hefferan Subject: (klr650) Re: Colorado Springs Gathering Marcus and other interested listers, I'm on the Digest mailing, so I can be slow to respond to KLR list posts. I do check this yahoo email 2 or 3 times a day and the avbb@rmi.net at least once each day. If anyone else would like any details about the get-together Oct 2-4, please contact me through the above email addresses directly. If you want even faster response you can reach me weekdays at my work email rhefferan@omnipoint.com or call 1-888-910-8241 and talk to my wife Karla. Watch for an article in the next KLR650 Dual Sport News. == Rex (93 KLR650) For the Colorado Springs Get-together info see http://shell.rmi.net/~avbb/cos.htm (please remember to reload/refresh the page) _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 14:53:18 +0000 From: Alex Jomarron Subject: (klr650) Re: Forbidden Motorcycles Chris wrote that his bike is not welcome in his apt community. Chris if you reside in the US, contact the AMA. They deal with this sort of thing all the time. Sometimes with success. Since you signed the lease you may be stuck. Alex Jomarron Oak Park, IL BMWMOA,BMWRA, AMA............blah blah...... 88 K75S 98 KLR ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 16:53:12 -0400 From: Brian Roth Subject: (klr650) Fw: Science is Good For all you beer drinkers out there: As we all know, it takes 1 calorie to heat 1 gram of water 1 degree Celsius. Translated into meaningful terms, this means that if you drink a very cold beer (generally consisting of water in large part), the natural processes which raise the consumed beer to body temperature during the digestive cycle literally sucks the calories out of the only available source, your body fat. For example, a beer served which is drunk near 0 degrees C (32.2 deg F) will in a short time be raised to the normal body temperature of 37 degrees C (98.6 deg F). For each gram of beer drunk, that process takes approximately 37 calories as stated above. The average beer portion is 12 oz, or 340 grams. Therefore, by operation of hermodynamic law, 12,587 calories (1 cal./gm/deg x 37 deg x 340 m) are extracted from body fat as the beer's temperature is normalized. Allowing for the 16 latent calories/oz in the beer, the net calorie loss is approximately 12,395 calories. Obviously, the more cold beer you drink, the better off you are and the faster you will lose weight, if that is your goal. Thus we highly recommend drinking very cold beer in frosted glasses. Frozen desserts, e.g., ice cream, are even more beneficial, since it takes 83 cal./gm to melt and an additional 37 cal./gm to further raise them to body temperature. The results here are really remarkable, and it beats running hands down. Unfortunately, for those who eat pizza as an excuse to drink pop, pizza (loaded with latent calories and served above body temperature) induces an opposite effect. But, thankfully, as the astute reader should have already reasoned, the obvious solution is to drink a lot of ice cold beer with pizza and follow up immediately with large bowls of ice cream. We should all be thin very soon if we adhere religiously to this pizza, beer, and ice cream diet. Kevin Crosby webmaster@fastbytes.net Fastbytes Internet Services 6600 Stage Road Suite 126-619 Memphis, TN. 38134 Internet Hosting for the HVAC Industry http://www.fastbytes.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 21:40:11 EDT From: Subject: Fwd: (klr650) Security This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --part0_902540411_boundary Content-ID: <0_902540411@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII In a message dated 98-08-07 10:14:33 EDT, Christian_Kindarji@the-firm.net writes: << Hey fellow bikers, The appartment complex I live in just called me to say that bikes are forbidden in their "community". Apparently there was a small writing in the lease I signed with them that stated this. Does anybody out there know how legal that thing is ? Can they actually forbid this ? Until I resolve this issue my KLR will be parked in my office building covered parking. What kind of security chain should I be getting ? Can't tell you how frustrating that is since I use my bike as a transportation mean..GRRRRRRRRRRRRR Frustrated Chris >> Chris, contact the AMA NOW!! They have worked through this several times. If you're not a member, become one as soon as possible. MN Ron - --part0_902540411_boundary Content-ID: <0_902540411@inet_out.mail.aol.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from relay21.mx.aol.com (relay21.mail.aol.com [172.31.106.67]) by air15.mail.aol.com (v47.2) with SMTP; Fri, 07 Aug 1998 10:14:32 -0400 Received: from lists.xmission.com (lists.xmission.com [198.60.22.7]) by relay21.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with SMTP id KAA26768; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 10:14:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from domo by lists.xmission.com with local (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0z4nGh-0007bp-00; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 08:13:19 -0600 Received: from (internet.the-firm.net) [208.139.243.66] by lists.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0z4nGf-0007bk-00; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 08:13:17 -0600 Received: from ntck (208.139.243.117 [208.139.243.117]) by internet.the-firm.net with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.1960.3) id PQ3VX0XD; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 10:17:13 -0400 From: "Christian Kindarji" To: Subject: (klr650) Security Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 09:19:00 -0400 Message-ID: <000801bdc205$f173b900$75f38bd0@ntck.the-firm.net> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: "Christian Kindarji" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Hey fellow bikers, The appartment complex I live in just called me to say that bikes are forbidden in their "community". Apparently there was a small writing in t= he lease I signed with them that stated this. Does anybody out there know ho= w legal that thing is ? Can they actually forbid this ? Until I resolve this issue my KLR will be parked in my office building covered parking. What kind of security chain should I be getting ? Can't tell you how frustrating that is since I use my bike as a transportation mean..GRRRRRRRRRRRRR Frustrated Chris - --part0_902540411_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 01:16:44 -0600 From: "skip faulkner" Subject: Re: (klr650) another mirror solution > > -----Original Message----- > From: John L. Wilson > To: klr650@lists.xmission.com > Date: Wednesday, August 05, 1998 9:43 PM > Subject: (klr650) Honda XR 650L Mirrors > > > I read in the July/August 1998 Issue of Kawasaki 650 Dual Sport News >(Page 13) under Carl's Corner: Technical Insights, that Honda XR650L >mirrors are recommended to minimize fuzzy images in KLR 650 mirrors. This >is because the XR650L mirrors have vibration dampeners built in. According >to the article, they work great. > My question to the LIST is whether the Honda Mirrors will thread into >the KLR mounts or do you have to buy the Honda mirror and the Honda mount? > > John, > > The XR650L mirror damper won't fit the KLR mirror. You can't buy just >the damper. The Honda mirror and damper sells for about $31 and will fit >the KLR. According to the expert that I spoke with a 77-78 Suzuki GS 750 >has a mirror damper that will work and costs about $11. > Fred Hink John, Fred is right, you have to buy the mirror also. The mirror base threads are 8mm, same as the KLR. I had a set on mine I borrowed from a customer at work and they helped but not much. I had better luck with 1/8in. thick neoprene gaskets under the base nut, but only at certain rpm`s. I hate the fuzzy mirrors so much, I have dedicated much time and energy to solving this situation and as of this week (with much trial and error and virtually destroying one mirror stripping it open) I now have a completely blur free left mirror. I am ecstatic. The images in the rearview are crystal clear at all speeds except at 3400 to 3600 rpm, which is the now converted frequency range of the mirror. Damping is only marginal at best. In the field of vibration isolation you must isolate and to reduce or eradicate vibration, you MUST have deflection. I have been able to do this but it is a little lengthy to explain and requires cutting the mirror shaft to modify. It is a simple process and easily done. For those interested, e-mail me and I`ll explain it out. If enough Listers are interested and wouldn`t mind a long post, I`ll put it on the List. I just don`t wan`t to list a long post nobody has an interest in. I have become obsessed with this mirror thing and it works great, but if style and not function is important to you, I don`t recommend this. Skip ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 08:06:28 EDT From: Subject: Re: (klr650) another mirror solution In a message dated 98-08-08 03:19:45 EDT, you write: << For those interested, e-mail me and I`ll explain it out. If enough Listers are interested and wouldn`t mind a long post, I`ll put it on the List. I just don`t wan`t to list a long post nobody has an interest in. I have become obsessed with this mirror thing and it works great, but if style and not function is important to you, I don`t recommend this.>> Skip, I would certainly like to see your solution and I believe many other listers would like to see it also. I encourage you to post it on the list. Thanks in advance. Greg '88 KLR 650 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 12:22:22 -0700 From: "Robert Morgan" Subject: Re: (klr650) baja gps guidebook Hi gang I just got back from the grocery store where I spotted a pickup truck in the parking lot. In the back were 2 Honda dp bikes with bags, helmets, boots et all,......and a cute blonde. Not one to be shy , I cruised over to inquire about the luggage etc. She said she and her companion were writing a gps handbook for baja and that Honda had lent them the bikes for the project. I told them of the list and offered to post their message. They are hosting a festival in Mexico where you can "ride a page from the guidebook". This will take place at Rancho La Ponderosa, Baja, Mexico (somewhere between Tecate and Mexicali). It is sponsored by AAYWA (all about your whereabouts). Their web address is http://www.bajagpsguide.com , check it out for the full scoop. Looks like it could be fun and informative. later Morgan, San Diego "Where ever you go, there you are!" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Aug 1998 21:52:44 +0000 From: Alex Jomarron Subject: (klr650) Willie Nelson KLRists, I'm on the road again. I'm headed down to the Smokies to do some riding Sunday morning. I'm staying either in the hostel in Seiverville, TN, or the campground at Deals Gap. From there I'll spend an evening at TWO in Suches, GA. Then onto Hot Springs, AR to meet my friend Kirk on his new Africa Twin. He bought the one that was announced on the DUST list. He's still drooling over it! See you on the road! Alex Jomarron Oak Park, IL 88 K75S 98 KLR 650 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Aug 1998 20:50:18 -0600 From: bruixot@rmi.net Subject: Re: (klr650) another mirror solution Has anyone had the chance to see if the BMW F650 Funduro antivibrrrrrrrration mirrors can be made to work on a KLR650? I realize that this would border on heresy, but..... - - Rotten Robert (who actually likes a little buzz from time to time) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 01:43:44 -0600 From: "skip faulkner" Subject: (klr650) (NKLR) Spidi jackets List, I`ve got my jacket search down to two, the Darien and the Spidi Trans NT. The Darien I`m familiar with (thanks in part to the posts I`ve read ) but the Trans NT I`m not that familiar with. How do they compare? I really like the sleeves (draw straps to reduce sleeve volume) on the Trans NT and it seems to have adequate ventilation. If anyone has info or experience with the Trans NT, I would appreciate some advice. Thanks. Skip ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 08:28:34 -0700 From: "Dean Harrison" Subject: (klr650) KLR vs. Transalp Well, this isn't really a 'versus' type deal, but I got to compare them a little yesterday. It was also the first time I got to try my KLR out on dirt roads and a little (very little) offroad. I was very pleased. I was a little concerned about how it would perform with some of the 'this isn't a dirt bike ' type comments on the list. Anyway, I was very pleased and realize this bike can do anything that I'll ever need it to. I was surprised how easily the rear wheel breaks loose on dirt roads, a real torque monster. Except for the damn clutch interlock switch screwing up (I'm bypassing EVERYTHING this morning), it performed flawlessly. I switched bikes with a friend who has a Transalp and there is quite a bit of difference. Felt like I was back on a street bike again, slower steering, heavier. Engine power felt more like my VFR (not surprisingly) but I like the rawness of the KLR. The suspension didn't feel like it could absorb the bumps as well as the KLR. It is definitely a better freeway bike and unlike the KLR, actually had a seat you could sit on for more than 5 minutes. I could see this being an excellent choice for someone who would want a better freeway traveler but still head offroad occasionally. Me, I'm totally happy with the KLR as it fits the niche I was trying to fill perfectly. Now, to go fix that damn clutch switch............... FWIW, Dean in Seattle 95 VFR750, 94 KLR650 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 08:30:44 -0700 From: "Dean Harrison" Subject: (klr650) Aerostich Combat touring boots Any comments on these boots? They seem expensive but look stout. Do they offer good ankle support/protection? I've got the Sidi (they also make the combat touring boot) Interstate but it's super soft leather and doesn't seem to offer significant ankle protection. Just curious. Dean in Seattle 95 VFR750, 94 KLR650 ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V1 #172 ****************************