From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V1 #181 Reply-To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Saturday, August 15 1998 Volume 01 : Number 181 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 22:44:58 EDT From: Subject: Re: (klr650) throttle locks In a message dated 8/12/98 6:09:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kaddee@aa.net writes: << does anyone have one? what type/brand do you recommend? i find that my hand gets tired on long highway rides. >> See the throttle lock review on the KLR 650 website. I installed the Vista Cruise and love it. Greg '88 KLR 650 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Aug 98 21:03:09 PDT From: "Marick Payton" Subject: (klr650) Centerstand for KLX? Anyone know anyone who makes a center stand for the KLX? Marick ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 06:42:26 -0400 From: "Darren Koepp" Subject: RE: (klr650) Centerstand for KLX? - -----Original Message----- From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Marick Payton Sent: Friday, August 14, 1998 12:03 AM To: klx650-moto@lists.Stanford.EDU; klr650@lists.xmission.com Subject: (klr650) Centerstand for KLX? Anyone know anyone who makes a center stand for the KLX? Marick Try Capitol Cycle in Sterling Virginia. 1-800-642-5100. They will send you a catalog for the asking, not many pictures though {;-( They handle BMW rigs but I hear they have center stands that work on the KLR . When I was on the phone with the guy he offered the item to me for $175. Good Luck! Darren / 98 KLR a.k.a. "Mr Freeze" / Central Virginia ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 09:13:32 -0400 From: Mike Ratta Subject: RE: (klr650) Balancer Chain Woes If you've ever pulled the magneto on the KLR, you'll see the bolt you are loosening only holds a plate thats tensioned by a spring. Loosening it only allows the adjuster to snug down under force from the spring. If the assembly is making weird noise, you may want to pull the magneto and check to see whats rubbing. Maybe the chain has developed a kink or tight spot? Maybe the balancer shaft or one of its bearings is damaged? > >...so I go to adjust my balancer chain for the second time since > acquiring > >the A12. Loosen the adjuster bolt, maybe more turns than necessary, tap > on > >the side case a few times with a rubber mallet and tighten bolt...now > > Darrel, > I`ve never had mine do that but if it happened to me I would do the > process over, making sure to turn left only three times and then gently > but > snugly tighten after your taps. Could you have over tightened or even > loosened to much and had the idler come loose? > Just a guess but unless someone has had this happen to them, I bet you > loosened to much. > > Skip > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 12:57:08 -0600 From: "skip faulkner" Subject: (klr650) (NKLR) Sun glare solution List, A while back I was looking at buying a visored helmet, not just for off road (I already have an MX helmet) but because of a problem I was having with sun glare, even with my sunglasses on, usually at the top of the face shield, or in the corners. Many of you recommended I place some tape at the top of my shield since I didn`t want to be carrying around two shields, one tinted and one clear. I found another solution some of you might like. It is perfect for our use and works great. I had been looking for a static cling film that pilots use in aircraft. It is the military green tint or brown and comes in squares of about 10"X10". It is a thick flexible film that you place wherever the sun is and stays by static. I couldn`t find what I wanted anywhere at a decent price. By luck, I found some static cling window tint in the JC Whitney catalogue. I ordered some of the bronze. This stuff is great! I cut a piece to cover the top 2" of my face shield all the way across. You can see through it and you can leave it on all the time. I cut a piece to completely cover my shield for really bright days on long trips and come dark, I just pull it off and stick it in a zip-lock bag and stick it in my pocket. For full coverage, I recommend getting a $2 squeegee that you use to apply window tint (at auto parts store) and cut it to about 2" wide (I don`t use the handle) to quickly squeeze out all the air on a piece that big. It`s completely reusable stuff and leaves no marks. I have some left over and if some of you want to try it without buying any (you may prefer the darker smoke), e-mail me your address and I`ll mail you a piece enough for a top strip. Skip ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 23:04:35 +0100 From: "Eric Dietiker" Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR engine/carb/exhaust mods Hi Wilfred, I installed a White Brothers 38mm Mikuni carb kit, SuperTrapp IDS and K&N air filter. Contrary to the advertising, it was not an out of the box solution since the jetting was so far off. I am still working towards the proper jetting. (This probably takes me longer than most folks, since I don't get much time to fiddle with my bike.) At this point I feel I have gotten significant power improvements across the board, at the expense of drivablility. However, the personality of the bike is completely changed. I think because of the carburetor throttle response is much more direct. So the whole bike has a raw, rebellious edge to it - personality! If I can ever arrange it, I would like to have the bike jetted properly on a dyno. At that point, I'll report my findings here. For now my only measurement is the wheelie-o-meter. I've also added Progressive Suspension springs & Race Tech gold valve (must haves), a MAP Engineering front disk (pricey, but brutally effective, and gorgeous), and a PS rear shock (dissapointingly harsh for street riding, but much better controlled than the stock waterbed. Eric. - ---------- >From: Wilfred Gaube >To: klr650@lists.xmission.com >Subject: (klr650) KLR engine/carb/exhaust mods >Date: Wed, Aug 12, 1998, 1:14 AM > >Hello all, > >I have been planning to do some mods to my 93 KLR650 and was wondering what >people out there have done to theirs. Including what worked and what did not! > >Currently I have a dynojet jet kit, k&n air filter, and a cobra pipe. The >bike dynos at 35HP at the rear wheel. I have seen a klx650 making 45+hp, >but I don't know if a KLR can make that kind of power and be reliable. > >Any suggestions would be appreciated. > >Wilfred > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 18:15:21 EDT From: Subject: Re: (klr650) Balancer Chain Woes In a message dated 8/14/98 9:19:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time, MRatta@ADE.com writes: << Could you have over tightened or even > loosened to much and had the idler come loose? > Just a guess but unless someone has had this happen to them, I bet you > loosened to much. >> I have removed the idler bolt completely out before after draining the engine oil in order to replace a leaking o-ring on the idler bolt. I then reinstalled it with no problems. It sounds as if something else might be the culprit and I suggest pulling the left cover off and looking with a flashlight around the magneto. You may have to remove the magneto which is easy if you have the tools that the Kawasaki shop manual shows. Keep us informed. Greg '88 KLR 650 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 16:56:38 -0600 From: "skip faulkner" Subject: Fw: (klr650) Brake caliper question/problem >>I inspected the front caliper and found the following problem. When you >>look at the brake piston you could see that the rubber seal had popped out > >>1. Could having the piston extend out too far when I replaced the pads >>cause this outer seal to pop out? I didn't see any kind of lip on the >>piston that it could have caught on and got knocked out of position though. > >>2. It appears there are two seals- an inner one that appears to hold in the >>fluid/pressure and an outer seal to keep out the dirt (that's my >>interpretation of it, anyway). Can the inner seal have worn enough to let >>fluid slip by (hence the poor braking) and finally blew out the outer dust >>seal? > >>Dean in Seattle 95 VFR750, 94 KLR650 Dean, First , how much is left of your pads now? The only way the piston can come out far enough to expose the seals is if there is excess clearance and if the caliper is installed properly, that could only happen if your pads and or your rotor are worn enough to give this excess. If clearance is not the problem and only the leak is, you probably have a bad seal. Whenever you remove the piston or it comes out to far when you`re changing pads, make sure everything is clean before reassembly. Cleanliness is extremely important when it comes to those seals and the brake system. A grain of dirt is all it takes to nick one of the seals or score a cylinder and piston. You also have to make sure that all the air is bled out of the system. If you have leaked any fluid, it means you now have air in the system. At the caliper end, for fluid to come out, it usually means it was replaced with air. You also could have rolled the seal when pushing the piston back in. I would bet the inner seal is bad and the outer seal was blown out or installed incorrectly. Skip ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 13:36:54 -0700 From: vesannlewis@juno.com Subject: (klr650) Lowering Links If you don't need lots of clearance for bashing in the dirt, this option of lowering the KLR650 is well worth the bucks. I couldn't encourage it more. The biggest problem, and that isn't such a big deal, is shortening the kick stand; several ways have been on the list. -Ves A12, lowered _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 21:24:39 -0700 From: "Darrel & Deanna" Subject: (klr650) Kickit Wilfred- The kits are in the Kawasaki accessories catalog. Beware though, some folks say they don't work... Darrel A12 **************************** From: Wilfred Gaube Just wondering if anybody out there has ever retrofit a kickstarter onto a KLR650. I just found out a kit was produced but I can't find one anywhere. Seems like only a few were ever made. Anybody have any ideas on where/if they can still be obtained? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 21:25:57 -0700 From: "Eric Rhoads" Subject: Re: (klr650) Lowering Links - -----Original Message----- From: vesannlewis@juno.com To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Date: Friday, August 14, 1998 8:54 PM Subject: (klr650) Lowering Links >If you don't need lots of clearance for bashing in the dirt, this option >of lowering the KLR650 is well worth the bucks. I couldn't encourage it >more. The biggest problem, and that isn't such a big deal, is shortening >the kick stand; several ways have been on the list. -Ves A12, lowered > >_____________________________________________________________________ >> Exactly. And although it's still a tad high, I'm not gonna get the seat scultpted out like I thought before I installed the lowering links. By the way, Skip Faulkner's kickstand solution is obviously best. (And personally, I'm tired of needing left-leaning parking spaces...so I'll do it.) ericR > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 09:09:48 EDT From: Subject: Fwd: (klr650) Lowering Links This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --part0_903186589_boundary Content-ID: <0_903186589@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII In a message dated 98-08-15 00:43:56 EDT, eroads@europa.com writes: << By the way, Skip Faulkner's kickstand solution is obviously best. (And personally, I'm tired of needing left-leaning parking spaces...so I'll do it.) >> I must have missed this one. Skip, can you resend this solution to me personally? Thanks!! MN Ron - --part0_903186589_boundary Content-ID: <0_903186589@inet_out.mail.aol.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-zc04.mx.aol.com (rly-zc04.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.4]) by air-zc01.mail.aol.com (v47.5) with SMTP; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 00:43:55 -0400 Received: from lists.xmission.com (lists.xmission.com [198.60.22.7]) by rly-zc04.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with SMTP id AAA00567; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 00:24:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from domo by lists.xmission.com with local (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0z7XsZ-0001zv-00; Fri, 14 Aug 1998 22:23:47 -0600 Received: from (mail.europa.com) [199.2.194.10] (root) by lists.xmission.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0z7XsX-0001zo-00; Fri, 14 Aug 1998 22:23:45 -0600 Received: from eroads(dialup-B067.europa.com[204.202.55.67]) (1531 bytes) by mail.europa.com via sendmail with P:smtp/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp (sender: ) id for ; Fri, 14 Aug 1998 21:23:36 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.98 1997-Oct-16 #12 built 1997-Oct-28) Message-ID: <000601bdc804$d4de3a40$02000003@eroads> From: "Eric Rhoads" To: , Subject: Re: (klr650) Lowering Links Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 21:25:57 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: "Eric Rhoads" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable - -----Original Message----- From: vesannlewis@juno.com To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Date: Friday, August 14, 1998 8:54 PM Subject: (klr650) Lowering Links >If you don't need lots of clearance for bashing in the dirt, this option >of lowering the KLR650 is well worth the bucks. I couldn't encourage it >more. The biggest problem, and that isn't such a big deal, is shortenin= g >the kick stand; several ways have been on the list. -Ves A12, lowered > >_____________________________________________________________________ >> Exactly. And although it's still a tad high, I'm not gonna get t= he seat scultpted out like I thought before I installed the lowering links. By the way, Skip Faulkner's kickstand solution is obviously bes= t. (And personally, I'm tired of needing left-leaning parking spaces...so I'= ll do it.) ericR > - --part0_903186589_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 23:40:26 -0700 From: omegacolor@sssnet.com Subject: (klr650) Sunstar 15T part number? Anyone happen to have the correct part number for a Sunstar sprocket (15 T) for the KLR? Just received one from MAW but there's no way it will work without modification. (read, grinding) This after waiting a week & 1/2 for an "in stock" part. Couldn't find any application charts on the net. Also, anyone ordering stuff from MAW, watch out for incorrect (read, really high) shipping charges. And when calculating your order don't forget to add the handling markup of 3% to their low, low prices. Thanks. Scott W. A3 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 13:35:24 -0400 From: "SY" Subject: (klr650) Burbank Kawasaki Sorry 'bout the long post, but I am pissed off right now... Anyone done any business with Burbank Kawasaki in Burbank, CA? Ordered a bike there about a week ago for a good price (98 KLR650) - been trying to call them to get shipping status and they don't call me back. I finally got a hold of someone yesterday after going through their receptionist who gives me the impression I am bothering her when I call. Anyways, the guy proceeds to tell me that they are trying to keep their costs down so they don't usally call long distance?? I had to control the urge to tell this guy where to go since they have been blowing me off for several days but a considerable amount of my money is already sitting in their bank account and this guy is worried about a 2 dollar phone call. The other B.S. about this is I paid for the bike in two parts, most of it with a bank to bank transfer as I was instructed. The rest I was going to place on a credit card, which they said was no problem. A few days later they called me up and said I cant pay the balance with a credit card, I need to wire it to their account so my bike will be insured during shipping??? I said no, screw that, just put insurance on it and charge me so I don't have to take time off work to do another bank transfer. They said they cant do that. So, I take 1/2 day off of work to screw around at the bank which cost my company $500.00 in lost billing time for me and some schmuck has the audacity to tell me they are trying to keep their costs down on their end by not making long distance phone calls???? The store manager has been nice when I have been able to talk to him (3 days ago) and I am hoping this is an isolated incident that will all pan out. I wanted to check with you guys for similar problems or info. Jeezuz, I just want my bike... Steve - '98 KLR650 (in the mail) ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V1 #181 ****************************