From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V1 #206 Reply-To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Friday, August 28 1998 Volume 01 : Number 206 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 02:17:49 -0400 From: "Darren Koepp" Subject: RE: (klr650) melt down Doug, Lets plan a time to get together and I will let you try out my KLR. Just don't scuff It ;) From the sound of it you seem pretty experienced, I guess Mr Freeze will tolerate you. Your partner (wife?) can hop on the back to see how she likes it. I work near Culpeper Va. (down 29) Any day is good. Let me know. I am really active on the weekends but we could make that work too if It is better for y'all. I met a guy named Joe on this list we talked about riding in George Washington National Forest (Central Va. near Harrisonburg.) I have received some info on this and it sounds like it has a tremendous amount of ORV trails. I have info on maps, phone numbers and addresses. I am planning on KLRing across the USA on the http://transamtrail.com/ So I need to practice right. ;) Darren / A12 "Mr Freeze" - -----Original Message----- From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Douglas J Bouley Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 1998 3:21 PM To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: (klr650) 2 up? Hi, Darren, Yes, sir, there are some fine rides around here, for sure. We had some good times on more-or-less "real" roads in West Virginia... the fire road thing in the Blue Ridge, though, sounds wonderful. If/when we get our KLR, I'll drop you a note and maybe we can go riding. So, it all comes down to finding one to test ride. Which, of course, is true of every bike, huh?!? Best, Doug - -----Original Message----- From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of djbouley@juno.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 1998 7:01 PM To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Subject: (klr650) melt down I've had a bit of a system melt-down over the last 2 days. I think there were several messages about my questions re KLRs 2-Up and maybe the differences in model years that I lost before I could read/respond to them. I apologize to anyone whom I may seem to be "ignoring"! Thank-you all for you excellent advice so far, and I hope to have my system functioning properly within a few days. Doug Bouley _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 03:15:41 -0000 From: ericjazz@mindspring.com Subject: (klr650) Welding gas tanks O.k., who wants to volunteer to weld a gas tank? Seriously, I had a two GPZ 750's both had a support tang that would stress and separate the gas tank, causing a small leak. I couldn't find anyone to weld a gas tank, got some funny looks though. I ended up using that Loctite gas tank sealant. Oh, my point, any pointers to specific types of welding shops that would handle that hazard concern? Just curious... By the way, I was kidding about the rubber sheets. Please don't send me any, I've got a stockpile of them now. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 18:20:19 +1000 From: Ted Palmer Subject: Re: (klr650) Fork set up on my new KLR? I wrote: > I'd suggest checking the coolant level as well. > The base manual shows that the level (at least on the 600s) should > have some air space above it, for some reason I can't figure out. > Coolant recovery systems as used on the KLRs need to be absolutely > full and air-free to allow the recovery system to work. After a query from Eric Rhodes about this, I re-read what I wrote. The "level" I was referring to is the level in the radiator(s), not the height of the coolant in the recovery bottle. The radiator(s) and the rest of the sealed part of the cooling system need to have no air space. The recovery bottle can run the stock marked level. When my bike was supplied to me, I rode it around for a while, and wondered about the fluctuations in the temperature, even in steady state riding. I checked the radiator coolant level and found it not far above the cores. I filled it up to the max and the temps were very stable from then on. The 600 in particular needs the radiators _full_, and the crossover pipe from the right to left radiators is the highest part of the cooling system. Mister_T ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 08:43:38 EDT From: Rcklr@aol.com Subject: Fwd: (klr650) Passenger Pegs and Gas This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --part0_904308218_boundary Content-ID: <0_904308218@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII In a message dated 8/27/98 9:21:20 PM EST, K650dsn@AOL.COM writes: << Okay, don't quote me on this because things change. But IMS is planning on redesigning their plastic tank for the KLR so that it carries closer to 7 gallans and has dual petcocks. I'll call them tomorrow and get the latest scoop. Gino >> Yeah!!!!! Now that's something that I would order as soon as possible. I agree with everyone that is sucks to know that I have a gallon sitting there with no access. (OK, no EASY access.) Gino, tell them that they'll sell about 2000 of these things so that we will get them out. :-) MN Ron - --part0_904308218_boundary Content-ID: <0_904308218@inet_out.mail.AOL.COM.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-zc03.mx.aol.com (rly-zc03.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.3]) by air-zc04.mail.aol.com (v49.4) with SMTP; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 22:21:20 -0400 Received: from lists.xmission.com (lists.xmission.com [198.60.22.7]) by rly-zc03.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with SMTP id WAA09629; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 22:15:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from domo by lists.xmission.com with local (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0zCE4B-00072I-00; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 20:15:07 -0600 Received: from (imo15.mx.aol.com) [198.81.17.5] by lists.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0zCE49-00070u-00; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 20:15:05 -0600 Received: from K650dsn@aol.com by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.3) id OFQa020922 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 22:13:46 +2000 (EDT) From: K650dsn@AOL.COM Message-ID: > Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 22:13:46 EDT To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: (klr650) Passenger Pegs and Gas X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 62 Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: K650dsn@AOL.COM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-08-27 22:02:09 EDT, ajax@xmission.com writes: << Any machinist types that can answer this? I suppose we need someone with an extra perhaps banged up tank to offer it to the list for surgery...seems like we could just drill and tap another petcock...let's get creative... >> Okay, don't quote me on this because things change. But IMS is planning on redesigning their plastic tank for the KLR so that it carries closer to 7 gallans and has dual petcocks. I'll call them tomorrow and get the latest scoop. Gino - --part0_904308218_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 08:08:59 -0500 From: "Jim Sprecker" Subject: (klr650) 16 TOOTH I put a 16 tooth front sprocket on the countershaft. I really helps slow down the engine for highway speeds. Dropped about 300 rpm. Had to remove some of the plastic lip on the countershaft cover because the chain would touch, otherwise is seems to work fine. It's close though. Sprocket Specialist makes all kinds of sizes for the front and the rear of the KLR. You could gear is anyway you want. They even make a 17 tooth. Don't know if it would fit easily. Still breaking in my new 98'. Got about 150 miles on it so far. This weekend!! I havn't pushed it hard to see how it will cruse down interstate 80 with the Nebraska speed limit of 75. I was wondering how those of you who have the Givi luggage like the mounts? Is there a better brand? thanks Jim. - ----------------------------------------------- > jsprecker@uswest.net < - ----------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 08:01:33 -0600 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: (klr650) Fw: BOUNCE klr650@lists.xmission.com: Non-member submission from [Steve Rottenberg ] >Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 09:23:42 -0500 >To: klr650@lists.xmission.com >From: Steve Rottenberg >Subject: Mirror Vibration Dampeners > >Hey, > Since nobody has posted anything at all for the past two days. I'll >give u something to read. I purchased those Suzuki Mirror Vibration >Dampeners part #56700-31001-000. Installed them last night ... they're the >ONLY chromed part in my stinkin' KLR .. besides the key :P > So I'm gonna go to work today. 60 miles round trip. and tell y'all >tonite, my first impression on them. > Paid $11 + tax for each .... > >PS: Have y'all seen this .avi ? It's worth every second of slow downloading >time ! 1.73MB >http://www.imagine-it.com.au/biaggi.avi > >Steve Rottenberg >Tuca en IRC (Undernet) >Email: tuca@tampabay.rr.com >Don't take life so seriously ... it's not permanent. > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 10:00:46 -0500 From: David M. King Subject: (klr650) re: Stories? George wrote: >David, > >Try this for size, tell me what you think. > >George Basinet >San Jose, >ca > >What finally got me was a steep hill that was >covered with flat, shale like rocks. I just couldn't >keep up any speed and got tired of falling. The KLR >just bounced from rock to rock and from side to side. Don't >know whether it was because of tires (Dunlop 750) or my >stock springs and shocks, or all three. That was a great writeup! Thanks for posting it. Sounds like y'all had a great time. I think riding over loose shale would require some good off-road experience. How did the other bikes and riders handle the shale? The 12 miles in 6" sand sounds like it would be fun at first but then tiring after a while. David M. King ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 11:06:15 EDT From: Krgrife@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) Welding gas tanks In a message dated 8/28/98 12:31:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time, ericjazz@mindspring.com writes: << I couldn't find anyone to weld a gas tank, got some funny looks though. >> Many radiator shops also weld gas tanks, the technique is to put dry ice inside the tank to displace the oxygen so no explosion. Nonetheless while this was being done to my BMW P/D tank a few years ago I waited in the next room. Kurt Grife ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 12:00:41 -0400 From: Michael Kovaliv Subject: (klr650) Spotted a KLR I was riding to work yesterday on my 1984 Nighthawk S and was stopped at a light. Around the corner came a 96-98 KLR650 and we made eye contact. I have never seen a KLR in my city, Windsor Ontario Canada, so I was taken by surprise. I waved and gave a "thumbs-up" to the KLR rider because I was so excited to actually see the bike I want, and I must have looked like a geek. If by some strange chance the rider reads this list., send me an email and I'll buy you lunch if you wouldn't mind me asking you some questions and looking at your bike. I don't have a KLR yet but it is at the top of my list for my next bike. Michael Kovaliv ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 09:15:29 -0700 From: "Jeffrey L. Walker" Subject: Re: (klr650) (NKLR) size & sound...speed > So you see what this means? Different people compensate in different >ways, and some may not need to compensate at all. > What about gun nuts? I've heard things about them too (a womens' >comment). So you can't just assume. > One form of compensation results in the seeking of great power, although >I'm not sure if that one is usually sexually motivated.....could be I >suppose. > .....hmmm, now where can I get Monika's phone number? > So what do you mean by that? I have been using guns since before puberty. I was taught to hunt by my father and grandfather who were taught by there's and so on, all the way back to the wild wild west. My family in this country goes back over six generations on my father's side, all of them frontiersmen, where firearms were a necessary tool for bringing home food. Growing up, my family never bought meat or poultry from the store, because we always had a stocked freezer full of venison, pheasants, and fowl. Anyway, I own several shotguns and hunting rifles. After my former profession as a Ranger, and then doing some work as a bond recovery agent, I acquired a few side arms and a H & K MP-5 sub machine gun. Again, necessary tools to the profession, and I am highly trained on their use. Physically, I am 6'2" of a lean and mean 225 lbs. I have been studying martial arts since I was a kid, and could kill with my bare hands if necessary. My guns don't define who I am. I am who I am, and my firearms are just tools to me. I don't think that they are to compensate for a lack of penis size (my wife seems satisfied), but to put food on my table and to defend my home. I don't sit around polishing my firearms all day, I'm more likely to polish my wrenches. As you can see, I take offense to the term "gun nut" just because someone owns firearms. Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 10:17:54 -0700 From: Dreas Nielsen Subject: RE: (klr650) (NKLR) size & sound...speed > > What about gun nuts? I've heard things about them too (a womens' > >comment). So you can't just assume. > > One form of compensation results in the seeking of great power, > although > >I'm not sure if that one is usually sexually motivated.....could be I > >suppose. > > > Physically, I am 6'2" of a lean and mean 225 lbs. I have been > studying > martial arts since I was a kid, and could kill with my bare hands if > necessary. As you can see, I take offense to the term "gun nut" just because someone owns firearms. > > Maybe some form of compensation is also needed for the lack of a sense of proportion... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 14:07:33 From: "R. Kaub" Subject: (klr650) Thermostat I noticed that there was some coolant leaking out of the bottom of the thermostat housing the other night. I checked the three mounting screws and they are tight. A search of the SM didn't give me any info on why it would leak or show what kind of gasket-if any-is used. Is there an o-ring or gasket under the housing or do they use silicone based sealant around the mounting surface. I'm not bothering with a warranty trip to the dealer as that is far more bother than fixing it myself. Thanks. Bob Kaub State University of New York PO Box 6000 Binghamton, NY 13902 607-777-2715 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 15:00:03 EDT From: K650dsn@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) IMS Fuel Tank for KLR650 Okay, here's the story. IMS has the natural (translucent) fuel tank for the KLR650. The tank will hold at least 6.1 gallons, but usually closer to 6.5. It will have only one petcock, but IMS will send a cross-over tube kit complete with fitting and quick disconnect upon request. 909-653-7720 Gino ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 12:17:53 -0700 From: "Jeffrey L. Walker" Subject: (klr650) Oil Change Just changed the oil with a new filter, and after carefully measuring the cc's I put back, and consulting with the owner's handbook (the pocket sized one), I have come to the realization that Eldon might be right, but perhaps for the wrong reason. The sight glass topped after adding 2.2 liters of oil. I then added another 300 cc's for a total of 2.5 liters. The owner's handbook says to add 2.2 liters if the filter isn't changed, and to add 2.5 if a new filter is used. Can it be that the Kawasaki engineers placed the sight glass there, calculating the amount of oil that should be in the filter assembly, and not in the crankcase? The handbook says to run the engine to fill the new filter with oil before checking the level. I believe that the oil that the engineers thought would stay in the filter assembly actually drains down into the crankcase, thus creating a false reading on the sight glass. Its not that they placed it at the wrong height, but that they didn't consider where the volume of oil in the filter would go. So from now on, I'm keeping my level past the top. When the oil level reaches the top line of the glass (after having sat all night) I'll just add another 300 cc's. Jeff ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V1 #206 ****************************