From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V1 #231 Reply-To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Thursday, September 10 1998 Volume 01 : Number 231 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 23:50:12 -0000 From: ericjazz@mindspring.com Subject: (klr650) Russell Day-Long Saddles web page Russell Day-Long Saddles web page: http://www.day-long.com/index.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 20:51:03 -0700 From: "Darrel & Deanna" Subject: (klr650) highway pegs? thoughts? From: "Peter M. Anderson": Highway pegs? Do they really work? I know Gino and Jack have a set, but is there any other KLR riders that swear by them? thanks for your response, 6' 2 1/2'' Anderson **************************************************************** Dear 6' 2 1/2- The highway pegs from Driveline I'm sure will be one of the most practical mods done to my KLR. For touring, the additional footing option is indispensable. Your personal height shouldn't be an issue since you can sit further back if you're tall (unless toting a passenger). Also, the price makes the pegs a value and a half. Thanks Mr. Bernard and Co. for a fine one-of-a-kind product! Darrel A12 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 22:34:40 -0700 From: Tony Jones Subject: Top End rebuilds (was: Re: (klr650) Oil consumption) > I'm seriously considering pulling the engine and replacing > the rings this winter. Has anyone on the list done this procedure > themselves. Should I be doing this myself (I am adventurous), is it > fairly straight forward, or is this more of a mess than its worth. In the few weeks I've been reading the list, I've seen quite a few mentions of top end work being done on listers KLRs at around 12,000 miles (and similar intervals thereafter). This seems overly frequent to me, though perhaps it is a 'thumper' thing? Just curious ... Tony ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 23:45:19 -0600 From: "skip faulkner" Subject: (klr650) Re: (nklr650) FW: KLE500 >Tim, > > Thanks for the return mail and the picture. Yours is much cleaner >than mine!! I use my KLE pretty much every day, for the 4 mile cross town >journey to work, and it is great for this since the height/ride position>........but the KLE performs really well on this type of road. For a tall bike it >is remarkably easy to throw into the bends, and with the right power its>......... I have only been riding for 18 months, and the KLE is my first bike. >It has been great fun over that time, as well as a reliable commuter for a> I would think it would be quite exciting if they upgraded it to say >a 650 or more. It would be interesting to ride such a machine. I am hoping >for a test run on the Cagiva Canyon 900, which I have been reliably informed >performs like a CBR600, but is a cool looking on/off roader. That could be >pretty exciting. >. Those interested in the Canyon, Ducati will be bringing it to the US according to two dealers I`ve talked to when I was trying to import a Cagiva E650 Lucky Explorer (Dakar Elefant) this spring. Skip ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 23:10:44 -0600 From: Brian Bonenfant Subject: (klr650) F650 I have had my 1st bike klr650, about 2 months now and have put about 5000 km on it, and I really enjoy this reliable, all round good tourer, but somewhat archaic mode of transportation. Lately though I have seen many different DP's around town (most likely 'cause I look for them now). So I visited my local BMW dealer, to see the competition and maybe do a few wheelies. Luckily they had a '97 F650 (4000 km) there that I was able to burn around the block a few times on. One thing I have to definitely comment on is the smoothness of the single rotax, twin plug, twin carb. engine. I also wanted to mention the fit and finish quality was all that of a beamer. So this rider gives it 2 thumbs up for the above mentioned qualities. But 2x the price of a klr ?? not for me. Next the thing that bothered me was that the dealer said it was a good off road'r but if you look through the brochure it specifically states that this bike is not made for more than a smooth dirt road -- and they more or less worn you about this on every single page (how confident does this make you feel about the bikes DP capabilities). Conclusion: put the GS suspension on it, drop the price 1/3 rd , a bigger tank, and shaft drive, and I might consider it. Any other comments out there,, regards, Brian. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 23:10:06 PDT From: "Juan Villarreal" Subject: (klr650) Foot pegs Oops, it's me again. I forgot to consolidate my questions. I'm crazy like that I guess... In addition to the kick-starter (which I've since found out is not compatible with any post-95 model KLRs- - it sucks to be me...) I was wanting to know if anybody has been able to find any good, wide, moto-cross type footpegs for the KLR. I know there were some mentioned in one of the KLR newsletters but upon calling the guy I was told that production had been discontinued. I do a lot of shopping via Dennis Kirk and Chaparral so if there's anything out of those catalogs that will work please let me in on it. Standing on those rubber pegs just gets me a little nervous when the going gets wet or muddy. Thanks- - Juan Villarreal, '97 KLR ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 00:17:20 -0600 From: "Fred Hink" Subject: Re: (klr650) Foot pegs - -----Original Message----- From: Juan Villarreal To: KLR650@lists.xmission.com Date: Thursday, September 10, 1998 12:14 AM Subject: (klr650) Foot pegs I was wanting to know if anybody has been able to find any >good, wide, moto-cross type footpegs for the KLR I have some for sale made by IMS for $65.20 Fred Hink Arrowhead Motorsports http://cctr.umkc.edu/user/khink/moabmc/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 01:10:15 +0300 From: "=?iso-8859-1?B?Qt1ST0wgU0FZ?=" Subject: Ynt: (klr650) List notes part ???.... - -----=D6zg=FCn =DDleti----- Kimden: Kurt Simpson Kime: KLR List Tarih: 09 Eyl=FCl 1998 =C7ar=FEamba 17:24 Konu: (klr650) List notes part ???.... >A reminder to all of us to ensure a quality list: > Simply move the cursor below the desired ingredients of former message an= d press CTRL-SHIFT-END and DELETE. Isn't that all Kurt? Birol SAY, M.D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 07:08:59 -0400 From: "Darren Koepp" Subject: (klr650) Chain Lube. Okay, Since we are on this subject, I have to ask this one: Who uses what, if anything (Fred ;), for their chain and how do you/they apply it? Anything has to be better than what I am using/doing. Darren (Squeaking in Virginia) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 07:21:49 -0700 From: Tom Simpson Subject: Re: (klr650) Chain Lube. At 07:08 AM 9/10/98 -0400, Darren Koepp wrote: >Okay, Since we are on this subject, I have to ask this one: > >Who uses what, if anything (Fred ;), for their chain and how do you/they >apply it? Anything has to be better than what I am using/doing. First, what are you using/doing? Personaly, Chain Wax is proving to be most sucessful for me. Does not attract dirt and the chain actualy stays fairly clean. Its a spray-can produst that can be found at most any MC dealer. - -tom '96 KLR 650 28,300 mi. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 07:26:58 -0700 From: Tom Simpson Subject: Re: (klr650) F650 At 11:10 PM 9/9/98 -0600, Brian Bonenfant wrote: > I have had my 1st bike klr650, about 2 months now and have put about >5000 km on it, and I really enjoy this reliable, all round good tourer, >but somewhat archaic mode of transportation. Lately though I have seen >many different DP's around town (most likely 'cause I look for them >now). > So I visited my local BMW dealer, to see the competition and maybe >do a few wheelies. Luckily they had a '97 F650 (4000 km) there that I >was able to burn around the block a few times on. One thing I have to >definitely comment on is the smoothness of the single rotax, twin plug, >twin carb. engine. I also wanted to mention the fit and finish quality >was all that of a beamer. So this rider gives it 2 thumbs up for the >above mentioned qualities. But 2x the price of a klr ?? not for me. Next >the thing that bothered me was that the dealer said it was a good off >road'r but if you look through the brochure it specifically states that >this bike is not made for more than a smooth dirt road -- and they more >or less worn you about this on every single page (how confident does >this make you feel about the bikes DP capabilities). > Conclusion: put the GS suspension on it, drop the price 1/3 rd , a >bigger tank, and shaft drive, and I might consider it. Youve pretty much captured the avreage KLR lister appraisal of the F650. Is it nice ? Sure. Is it worth the price of admission? Questionable. Is it anything resembing a dirt bike? Hell, no. At least you can flog a KLR and *make* it do some dirt bike-like things in a pinch. And, personaly, twin carbs is a substantial turnoff for me, given the long-standing issues with troublesome tuning these have. - -Tom '96 KLR 650 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 07:30:00 -0700 From: Tom Simpson Subject: Re: (klr650) highway pegs? thoughts? At 08:51 PM 9/9/98 -0700, Darrel & Deanna wrote: >From: "Peter M. Anderson": > >Highway pegs? Do they really work? I know Gino and Jack have a set, >but is there any other KLR riders that swear by them? I had a set that came off of an old Harley that I fitted to my KLR. I like the concept but I never did get these bent properly to fit me. Now they have mysteriously disapeared. Eve as ill-fiting as mine were, they were a net-assed in the comfort department. - -Tom '96 KLR 650 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 07:59:23 -0700 From: Tom Simpson Subject: Re: Top End rebuilds (was: Re: (klr650) Oil consumption) At 10:34 PM 9/9/98 -0700, Tony Jones wrote: > >> I'm seriously considering pulling the engine and replacing >> the rings this winter. Has anyone on the list done this procedure >> themselves. Should I be doing this myself (I am adventurous), is it >> fairly straight forward, or is this more of a mess than its worth. > >In the few weeks I've been reading the list, I've seen quite a few >mentions of top end work being done on listers KLRs at around 12,000 >miles (and similar intervals thereafter). This seems overly frequent >to me, though perhaps it is a 'thumper' thing? Near as I can tell it is not a common thing, realy. Mine didnt even need a valve adgustment until 19,000 mi. The only finiky thing is the counterballancer chain. Just need to make sure that the tentioner is working and dont overtorque it. - -Tom '96 KLR 650 28,300 mi. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 08:14:03 From: "r. kaub" Subject: (klr650) Lowering Links I've been calling Quality and leaving messages but nobody's calling back. Does anybody else sell high quality lowering links? Thanks. Bob Kaub State University of New York PO Box 6000 Binghamton, NY 13902 607-777-2715 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 08:56:21 EDT From: Rcklr@aol.com Subject: Fwd: (klr650) whaddayathink?? This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --part0_905432181_boundary Content-ID: <0_905432181@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII In a message dated 9/9/98 8:03:26 PM EST, AGSholar@aol.com writes: << << I looked at an 89 KLR at a local dealer recently... They wanted $2850 for it... >> If anybodly is looking for a used KLR, there are some from our local LISTERS. I know that the KLR Web page has several also. Example, my '93 with many extras and well taken care of for $2400. I bet if you noted that you were interested you would find the right KLR right here. I think that this dealer is about $1200 off by your description..... MN Ron - --part0_905432181_boundary Content-ID: <0_905432181@inet_out.mail.aol.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-ya01.mx.aol.com (rly-ya01.mail.aol.com [172.18.144.193]) by air-ya03.mx.aol.com (v49.1) with SMTP; Wed, 09 Sep 1998 21:03:25 -0400 Received: from lists.xmission.com (lists.xmission.com [198.60.22.7]) by rly-ya01.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with SMTP id VAA04454; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 21:02:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from domo by lists.xmission.com with local (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0zGv5k-0006y0-00; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 19:00:08 -0600 Received: from (imo19.mx.aol.com) [198.81.17.9] by lists.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0zGv5h-0006t0-00; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 19:00:05 -0600 Received: from AGSholar@aol.com by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.1) id OCMUa10121 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 20:55:41 +2000 (EDT) From: AGSholar@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 20:55:41 EDT To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: (klr650) whaddayathink?? X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: AGSholar@aol.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/9/98 9:51:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, djbouley@juno.com writes: << I looked at an 89 KLR at a local dealer recently... They wanted $2850 for it... I'm inclined to walk away from this one. Would love to hear the opinions of others that know more than I. >> I would not touch this one, at least at that high of price. I paid $1800 for my '88 KLR in very good condition last year so I know you can do better than $2850. Greg - --part0_905432181_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 08:36:17 -0500 (CDT) From: Tom Clay Subject: Re: (klr650) Chain Lube. > Personaly, Chain Wax is proving to be most sucessful for me. Does not >attract dirt >and the chain actualy stays fairly clean. Its a spray-can produst that can >be found >at most any MC dealer. > > >-tom >'96 KLR 650 >28,300 mi. I also used Chain Wax and find that it's the only stuff that doesn't immediately fling off all over the back end of my KLR. I have a little plastic doodad that I bought at the dealer's which allows me to direct the spray directly at the chain. This saves me from having to stand back six inches and flail away with the spray going into the wind and not on the chain. Tom Clay Winnipeg MB ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 08:36:22 -0500 (CDT) From: Tom Clay Subject: (klr650) Chain cleaning? The manual says to clean the chain unsing kerosene or "diesel oil" [whatever that is]. OK, so I paint the kerosene on with a little brush, and then scrub the heck out of it with all manner of other brushes. It eventually comes mostly clean, but what a pain in the neck! My question is this: is there some type of specialized brush or tool which will make this task easier? TIA Tom Clay Winnipeg MB ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 06:58:02 PDT From: "Juan Villarreal" Subject: (klr650) Re: Kick starter Sorry Linus, the only thing I know is that I can't have a kick on my '97. As for those of you that can... I recommend going to the bulletin and letting one of the "haves" send you in the right direction. Juan Villarreal >Hi Juan, >Do you know where I could get the kick-starter kit for my 90KLR? >Also how much is it? >Thanks >Linus ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 07:00:00 -0700 From: Dreas Nielsen Subject: RE: (klr650) Chain Lube. Aerosol lithium grease, applied sparingly to each side of each link while the chain is warm (but not too warm). Dreas Nielsen > -----Original Message----- > From: Darren Koepp [SMTP:darrenk@mnsinc.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 10, 1998 4:09 AM > > Okay, Since we are on this subject, I have to ask this one: > > Who uses what, if anything (Fred ;), for their chain and how do > you/they > apply it? Anything has to be better than what I am using/doing. > > Darren (Squeaking in Virginia) > ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V1 #231 ****************************