From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V1 #255 Reply-To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Monday, September 21 1998 Volume 01 : Number 255 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 12:44:07 EDT From: Roundr1@aol.com Subject: (klr650) The Hippy, Hippy Shake... In a message dated 9/19/98, Eric Rhoads and Ted Palmer wrote: >[...] >> ...I have the wobble. I don't like it at all. I still have the stock tires >> which I keep at factory spec pressure (21lbs.) From what you'e saying, I'm >> wondering if this wobble has something to do with the tires....and >> wondering if it might go to hell (away) if I change tires...I can hope so... > >...Try different pressures, maybe go up to 25psi and see what it does, >this I guess is still way below the tyre's max cold pressure. Check >on the sidewall, most tyres will tell you this max figure... >Mister_T ............The wobble I've felt above 75mph (indicated) has been more pronounced when I'm sitting in the most rearward position on the saddle. The shake is considerably lessened when I press the family jewels up against the gas tank. BTW, thank you Mister_T for the suggestion to use a sheepskin cover when riding around naked with my grandmother. She enjoyed it immensely. Can I just throw it in the washer now or do I need to get it dry cleaned ? TIA John Oldepus - 96 KLR650 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 13:18:58 -0400 From: "David Sim" Subject: Re: (klr650) Returning Weave Problem NKLR Sorry Fred, after re-reading your post I realized we are in agreement. Your post was aimed at those with the forks sticking up through the top triple clamp. Dave Sim Kitchener, Ontario - -----Original Message----- From: Fred Hink To: David Sim Date: September 21, 1998 12:56 PM Subject: Re: (klr650) Returning Weave Problem NKLR >If you read what I said, I completely agree. > >Fred > > >-----Original Message----- >From: David Sim >To: Fred Hink ; Steve Young ; >klr650@lists.xmission.com >Date: Monday, September 21, 1998 10:40 AM >Subject: Re: (klr650) Returning Weave Problem NKLR > > >>I've got to disagree Fred. >>Lowering the front end will decrease the rake and quicken >>the steering, making it even twitchier. >> >>Dave Sim >>Kitchener, Ontario >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Fred Hink >> >>>I am wondering for you guys that have the "wobble" problem where your >forks >>>are setting in the triple clamps. I would think that they may be set too >>>high and need to be lowered a little in the clamps. Try lowering the >forks >>>or raising the triple clamps about a half inch and see if that helps. If >>>that is better try another half inch till they feel right. What this does >>>is increase the angle of your forks and make it more stable at speed while >>>sacrificing the quik turning at slower speeds. Be SURE that you retighten >>>all the bolts you loosened to the correct torque specs. >>> >>>Fred Hink (torque to me) >> >> >> >> > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 14:04:43 From: "R. Kaub" Subject: (klr650) Damn thermostat Replaced the thermostat over the weekend. Very easy to do. However, when I removed the old thermostat, I didn't find a damaged o-ring as I expected. In fact, the o-ring looked perfectly normal. OK. I installed the new thermostat with o-ring after making sure there were no burrs or imperfections on the thermostat seat in the head and on the thermostat cover. Lovingly torqued the three screws, added one pint of new anti-freeze and washed everything off with water. Started up the engine and let it warm up. Still leaks. Same amount, same place. Shit. Take it all apart again and re-check everything. Still very easy to do but not quite as much fun now. Don't see anything abnormal. Carefully and lightly pull the mating surface of the thermostat cover over fine emery cloth laid on a flat surface to clean off any possible rough spots. Housing cleans up right away. Put it all back together and torque/add/wash/start/warm-up. Still leaks; same amount, same place. Goddam piece of shit motorcycle. Put it in the shed. Went into house and chased wife around kitchen. Kids came home. YAAAAAAAAAA. Took a nap. The only thing I can think of is that the counterbore in the head that the thermostat seats in is a little too deep and the cover can't quite squeeze the o-ring completely when attached. Anybody been there, done that? Thanks. Bob Kaub State University of New York PO Box 6000 Binghamton, NY 13902 607-777-2715 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 14:35:27 -0400 From: Mike Ratta Subject: RE: (klr650) Damn thermostat Is there supposed to be a gasket between the head and the thermostat housing? or does the thermostat get pinched around the edges to make a gasket? You might want to try some RTV on it. > > Replaced the thermostat over the weekend. Very easy to do. However, when > I removed the old thermostat, I didn't find a damaged o-ring as I > expected. > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 11:35:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Rex Hefferan Subject: (klr650) Steamboat Springs Hi Marcus, I forgot about the Tengai when I posted last night. I saw it parked on the street near 7th in front of the Rocky Mountain Chocolate Factory. I noted that the swingarm had been polished, not a bad custom idea for a mostly street use machine. Maybe other listers would like to do that to their bike. Shouldn't be too much work. Heck, I might even do it to mine, but I've already scuffed it on rocks. == Rex (93 KLR650) For the Colorado Springs Get-together info see http://shell.rmi.net/~avbb/cos.htm (please remember to reload/refresh the page) _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 15:26:02 EDT From: Cloudhid@aol.com Subject: (klr650) Re: Frankenstein and Steamboat Springs On 9/20/98, rhefferan@yahoo.com wrote: Snip >Interesting bike, thanks for the report Ron. > >So Ron, did you move to Redondo for the bonus of the cool signature? >Rex (93 KLR650) >For the Colorado Springs Get-together info see > http://shell.rmi.net/~avbb/cos.htm >(please remember to reload/refresh the page) It was my pleasure Rex. I still hope to get free for the get-together. I'm interested in sampling the trails you've described on your site and putting some more faces to all these screen names. Redondo Ron (who blames landing here on a simple twist of fate) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 15:26:38 EDT From: Cloudhid@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) Frankenstein...by Team Green On 9/21/98, hawatanabe@earthlink.net wrote: snip >It could also be that the KX500 brake was designed to stop a bike with >a dry weight that is 120 lbs less than our beloved KLR. Maybe someone >on the list with more suspension knowledge will weigh in on this. >Hiro (who frequently finds himself cleaning up after Redondo Ron) Thanks for pointing out my mistake on the fork diameter. You might be on to something regarding the weight as well. But I'd be careful about the "cleaning up after me" thread. I could always tell them about 1975 in Burnaby...... :-p Redondo Ron (who has done his share as a cleaner) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 15:28:12 EDT From: Cloudhid@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) The Hippy, Hippy Shake... On 9/21/98, Roundr1@aol.com wrote: snip >The shake is >considerably lessened when I press the family jewels up against the gas >tank. BTW, thank you Mister_T for the suggestion to use a sheepskin cover >when riding around naked with my grandmother. She enjoyed it immensely. >Can I just throw it in the washer now or do I need to get it dry cleaned ? >TIA John Oldepus - 96 KLR650 My wobble experience (with my forks flush in the clamp) is the same as Dave Sim and yourself. I don't know sheep from shinola about cleaning your pelt, so I can't help you with that. However depending on how intimate a relationship you have with granny, you might look in the archives for an early post of mine that can help you get more of your passenger's weight over the front wheel to lessen that hippy, hippy shake. Redondo Ron (who personally wouldn't fork around with an Oedipus complex) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 17:41:46 -0400 From: "Christian Kindarji" Subject: (klr650) Tampa - Montreal - Tampa (NKLR) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01BDE587.1B645DB0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0011_01BDE587.1B645DB0" - ------=_NextPart_001_0011_01BDE587.1B645DB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit First I would like to thank everybody who helped me getting myself ready for the trip, then I would like the thank the List and all those people that keeps it alive everyday. Thank you everybody. Although I'm not a hard-core biker but a person that enjoys driving my bike everyday, I learned a lot from your everyday postings and I did my first oil change and oil-filer change in the middle of my trip (and very proud of myself should I add). I have still a lot to learn about sprockets, dynajet, ... Here's a long summary of my trip. When i first thought about it , i told myself the idea was crazy and i was expecting my wife to freak out! But guess what , she didn't! I guess she knew I needed the challenge So I started planning for the trip.Tampa , Montreal on my Kawasaki bike is definately easier said than done . Believe me when I say it, because I did it! 1500 miles is not a short trip! What is the safest , shortest way? Let's start! First, the maps! Of course, my PC (stands for Perfect Companion!) was a great help, using Rand McNally Deluxe Edition, I printed 3 copies of the itinerary (one for my wife, two for me in case I threw one out of frustration on the road!) On the other hand , all those years I spent as a Boy Scout came on handy , my survial kit for instance was updated.... I knew I had to travel light , so 4 T-shirts 2 shorts, underwear, blabla...backpack, my alarm set at 5A.M (as if I 'll get any sleep that night) and I went to bed... 5:00 AM I am actually going to do it ! Shower.. 5:30 AM VRRRRRRRR.... I am on my way.... 10:30 AM Have you ever been on a motorcycle for more than an hour? 5 or 6 for example? I guess God didn't create these legs for this particular purpose in mind! I had some weird reactions : while my lower back was busy acking me increasingly , my legs were spreading and spreading.... When I looked really funny on the bike , I had to stop , rest , refuel, leave a message for Nathalie on the beeper with the miles i have already put behind me! My first encounter was at Virginia : Tattoes on his arm, ring in his ear, eye brow, nose, lip and tong, Kevin and his bike were going my way too! He ended uo calling me "slave driver!" because I wouldn't stop every hour for his "smoke"!, Albany was his destination and I promised to gety him there early next day. I am afraid I have to tell you we shared a room that night , I can't recall everything happening during that night ! I only remember waking up with a pierced ear and "Kevin for ever " tattoed on my arm! (Please note that is a joke , I also informed my lawyer about this comment just to make sure nobody can sue me because of it and that it is not Starr report material! 5:00 AM A man with a mission! that's me! "on the road again" 3 Hours of sleep was all "Slave Driver" needed to be back on his feet and face the next part odf the Trip (Kevin still hates me for that). At the risk of something romantic , I enjoyed thoses sunrises and the views ! Those beautiful colors that change by the second , all the serenity of the mountains. Where are we every morning when those beauties are unfolding ? This is really breathtaking .I am trying to take in as much as I can (I remembered Forest Gump and his desire to run for years and trying to be one with his surroundings). I guess our species have weird needs sometimes: to challenge oneself to ones limits .... Miles are running so quickly before me and I noticed that after all those miles , I could tell how many different kind of gravel, pavement materials they used on thoses highways. Different shades of grey, different shades of black...I also encounter an alligator on the side of the highway , huge deer killed , and oh let's not forget the thousands of insects dying on my helmet... Miles are running so quickly before me . Every 2 hours , stop , refuel, rest for 10 or 15 minutes and n my way again.. Pretty soon it was like a routine and by the ned of the day , I was approaching the canadian border... I was getting really cold and I had to stop for 20 minutes inside the station to warm up again... After the paper work was done , I started the motorcycle under the rain , but what the heck? I have seen worse... The rain turned into a crazy storm , winds was pushing cars off the highway, so I along with many cars had to pull on the side and stop . WAter was pouring in , I was chilled to my bone . One car driver took pity on me and let me in his car to warm up HAVE YOU EVER SHAKEN FROM HEAD TO TOE , UNABLE T ARTICULATE A WORD ? YEP ! THAT WAS ME! After a while the storm eased and I headed to my father's house under the rain. Forget about my glorious arrival! I was dreaming of a hot shower and dry clothes! Not even Demi Moore herself wouldn't have made me happier at that point! I will never forget the expression on my father 's face. He didn't know I was coming and he was trying to figure out how the heck I was standing in front of him and why I WAS SOOOO MISERABLE? Shower , dry clothes and an hour later , the VIBRATIONS in my head were still there ! BUZZING IN MY EAR ... WOULDN'T STOP! Pretty uncomfortable feeling but I DID IT! so I didn't mind the buzz . I was thrilled to tell myself that I DID IT ! What I didn't realize at that particular thrilling and happy moment of my life is that I will have to do it all over again in 4 days! Well, the way back was tiring and problem free, but on that bike was a man , renewed with the knowledge that this was a kind of a rerun (been there, done that), a man wisened by the fact that the human mind is a strange box . It believes everything that you feed it : you can tell it you can do it and it will! The great gift through it all is our WILL . This is where everything starts and becomes reality . The only thing still bothering me though are those VIIIIIBRAAAATIOOONS. If only they would stop! Christian KLR650 '98 - ------=_NextPart_001_0011_01BDE587.1B645DB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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