From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V1 #343 Reply-To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Tuesday, November 3 1998 Volume 01 : Number 343 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 09:35:04 -0500 From: James Naus Subject: (klr650) Removing triple-clamps Has anyone removed the triple-clamps and replaced the head tube bearings? I started to do this on Saturday and did not read far enough ahead in the book. It says you need a special tool to remove the center bolt under the handle bars and it also looks like a pain to remove and replace the bearings. Has anyone done this and is there anything I should know or look out for? Frank how much is that special tool going to cost me? On a side note. I am doing this because I thought I bent my forks after using a car to stop myself. Well, it turns out that the only damage is to the bottom triple-clamp and maybe to the top triple-clamp. Both fork tubes are in great shape, these 43mm inverted forks are pretty strong. Thanks for any help, James Tallahassee, FL '95 KLX650C ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 08:25:24 -0700 From: "Pokluda, Gino F" Subject: (klr650) Duct tape Thought this was kinda fun. Sorry for the waste of bandwidth, but I use a lot of duct tape. "Duct tape is like the Force. It has a light side, a dark side, and it holds the universe together." Gino ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 11:12:11 From: "R. Kaub" Subject: (klr650) Fuses While prepping the bike for the upcoming long winter's nap, I decided to sort out what the fuses did what and make sure I had spares on board. As it turns out, my bike (and everybody else's, probably) has three fuses. There is a 10 amp fuse in a white fuse holder located near the coolant tank. It is tie-wrapped (the tie on my bike has a little tab so you can release and re-use the tie) to the outside leg of the mounting frame for the tank. You can see the fuse holder by looking through the grill in the right side of the fuel tank fairing. This fuse protects a wire leading to the fan relay. There is a spare 10 amp fuse mounted inside the fuse holder. The easiest way to get to the fuse is to remove the fairing. It is easier to remove the fairing by removing the silver 8mm hex head cap screws that attach the black plastic cover to the coolant tank and the single screw at the top of the fairing. There are two fuses in the holder located under the seat. Yes, you have to remove the seat (10mm hex head cap screws) to gain access. One fuse is a 20 amp and the other is a 10 amp. There is a spare 10 amp stuck into the rubber mount that surrounds the fuse holder. There is NO spare 20 amp fuse. The 20 amp fuse is the main fuse and protects the entire bike. It looks like the 10 amp fuse protects the tail and/or brake lights. I decided that it would be a good idea to have a spare for each size fuse. Since there already is a 10 amp spare in the fan relay fuse holder, I wanted to change the 10 amp spare under the seat to a 20 amp. The existing spare fuse was completely stuck in the rubber mount and I had to BREAK the fuse to get it out. Nice. If you were really in a jam, you could carefully cut the rubber around the spare fuse and get it out without breaking it. I decided to try coating the new spare with silicone grease and only shoved it about half-way into the hole in the rubber mount. It slides easily and, hopefully, I will be able to get it out without breaking it if I ever really need it. I hope this description of sliding greasy things into a hole isn't too modern. Wouldn't want to offend anyone. So, I now have a spare fuse on board for each size. They are located in incredibly inconvenient places. Since I bought a box of five fuses for each size and there's room in the factory toolkit for both boxes, I put the rest of the fuses in the toolkit. This virtually guarantees that I will never have a fuse blow and, should the impossible happen, I've got it covered. All this for less than three bucks. No need for fancy circuit breakers or re-wiring the bike either. :-) Thanks. Bob Kaub State University of New York PO Box 6000 Binghamton, NY 13902 607-777-2715 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 13:35:14 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Winslow Subject: (klr650) Advice on a 1989 KLR650 Howdy, I came across a 1989 KLR650 for sale for the wonderful price of around $1000. It has around 6000 miles on it (as far as I know). How do the 1989 models differ from the newer ones? Is the gas tank the same size and the windscreen similar? Any info or experiences that you may have would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Eric M. Winslow '93 GS500E 1-800-AMA-JOIN ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 12:46:07 -0600 From: David M. King Subject: (klr650) NKLR NX 650 Advice I have the chance to buy a 1989 NX 650 for around $1600. I know at least one person on this list had one of these. Can anyone tell me about this bike and if that sounds like a good deal? Thanks, David M. King ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 14:06:24 -0500 From: Tom Simpson Subject: Re: (klr650) Advice on a 1989 KLR650 At 01:35 PM 11/3/1998 -0500, Eric Winslow wrote: >Howdy, > >I came across a 1989 KLR650 for sale for the wonderful price of around >$1000. It has around 6000 miles on it (as far as I know). > >How do the 1989 models differ from the newer ones? Is the gas tank the >same size and the windscreen similar? Any info or experiences that you may >have would be greatly appreciated. '96+ bikes have beefed up clutch components, more flywheel mass and and a (supposidly) improved seat, as well as an improved counterballancer chain tentioner. Does it run? Is it in decent overall shape? If so, buy it. - -Tom '96 KLR 650 30,600 miles ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 16:56:55 -0500 From: Todd Emsley Subject: (klr650) I GOT DSN! King Gino, Just got my first issue of DSN. What a great idea to open the scope of the newsletter! I have been battling with COBRA about pipes, and while leafing through the issue, noticed on page 3 a KLR with an exhaust I don't recognize. I thought I had to pick between Supertrapp and COBRA. Could anyone give me a list of available exhaust pipes for the KLR. Thanks. Todd A11 Wilmington, Delaware ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 17:53:04 -0700 From: Bogdan Swider Subject: (klr650) To: "'klr650@lists.xmission.com'" Fellow mechanically ignorant and/or plain unlucky listoids (the adroit of mind & body need not read on): Yes, all 4 cam cover bolt holes can be heli coiled without taking off the head. The man who did this for me offered these opinions as to why stripping is likely to occur precisely there. #1 A 6mm bolt with a 12mm head, If you torque by feel it won't work with this combination. #2 If the cam cover is just a bit off line the bolts will go in at an angle and strip the holes. I can't be positive but this is what I think I did since I was finishing the job in a hurry in the dark and I know I didn't over torque. Either that or the mechanic that last checked the valves did the foal deed. Tap or nudge the cover slightly till the bolts drop in easy. He also postulated that to tighten these guys a inch/lb. torque wrench is a must as the lower end of a ft./lb. wrench.is notoriously inaccurate.Of course anti-seize is also a must. Bogdan, poorer for sure, wiser not guaranteed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 18:20:05 -0800 From: "Rob Clement" Subject: Re: (klr650) Fuses Great posting, Mr. Kaub. I'm going to put some spare fuses in my stock tool kit too. I just assumed A) I'd never blow a fuse, and B) if I did, there'd be a spare on board. My lack of concern about fuse problems/trust in Kawasaki could have caused me trouble if the 20-amp main fuse had blown. I'd have been searching the ground for a gum wrapper, or something. To protect me against that revolting outcome, I've just put some aluminum foil in my tool kit, until I get "real" fuses. Thanks. Rob C. A12 Atascadero, CA - -----Original Message----- From: R. Kaub To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Date: Tuesday, November 03, 1998 8:15 AM Subject: (klr650) Fuses >While prepping the bike for the upcoming long winter's nap, I decided to >sort out what the fuses did what and make sure I had spares on board. >As it turns out, my bike (and everybody else's, probably) has three fuses. > >There is a 10 amp fuse in a white fuse holder located near the coolant >tank. It is tie-wrapped (the tie on my bike has a little tab so you can >release and re-use the tie) to the outside leg of the mounting frame for >the tank. You can see the fuse holder by looking through the grill in the >right side of the fuel tank fairing. This fuse protects a wire leading to >the fan relay. There is a spare 10 amp fuse mounted inside the fuse holder. > The easiest way to get to the fuse is to remove the fairing. It is easier >to remove the fairing by removing the silver 8mm hex head cap screws that >attach the black plastic cover to the coolant tank and the single screw at >the top of the fairing. > >There are two fuses in the holder located under the seat. Yes, you have to >remove the seat (10mm hex head cap screws) to gain access. One fuse is a >20 amp and the other is a 10 amp. There is a spare 10 amp stuck into the >rubber mount that surrounds the fuse holder. There is NO spare 20 amp fuse. >The 20 amp fuse is the main fuse and protects the entire bike. It looks >like the 10 amp fuse protects the tail and/or brake lights. >I decided that it would be a good idea to have a spare for each size fuse. >Since there already is a 10 amp spare in the fan relay fuse holder, I >wanted to change the 10 amp spare under the seat to a 20 amp. The existing >spare fuse was completely stuck in the rubber mount and I had to BREAK the >fuse to get it out. Nice. If you were really in a jam, you could >carefully cut the rubber around the spare fuse and get it out without >breaking it. I decided to try coating the new spare with silicone grease >and only shoved it about half-way into the hole in the rubber mount. It >slides easily and, hopefully, I will be able to get it out without breaking >it if I ever really need it. > > I hope this description of sliding greasy things into a hole > isn't too modern. Wouldn't want to offend anyone. > >So, I now have a spare fuse on board for each size. They are located in >incredibly inconvenient places. Since I bought a box of five fuses for >each size and there's room in the factory toolkit for both boxes, I put the >rest of the fuses in the toolkit. >This virtually guarantees that I will never have a fuse blow and, should >the impossible happen, I've got it covered. All this for less than three >bucks. >No need for fancy circuit breakers or re-wiring the bike either. :-) >Thanks. >Bob Kaub >State University of New York >PO Box 6000 >Binghamton, NY 13902 >607-777-2715 > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 22:51:12 -0500 From: "Robert frey" Subject: (klr650) LAND USE ALERT! Please respond! An Important messege from the Blue Ribbon Coalition.. PLEASE READ! Robert Withlacoochee DualSport Riders Florida >---------- >> From: Terry Lee Cook >> To: AMA Staff, Dana Bell >> Cc: AMA Staff, Eric Lundquist ; AMA Staff, Kelita >Svoboda ; AMA Staff, Ed Moreland > >> Subject: OHV ALERT !!! >> Date: Monday, November 02, 1998 9:19 AM >> >> Attention all trail bike and ATV activists. The Forest Service is in >> the process of revising it's most important management guidance >> document, the strategic plan. It is holding a series of meetings all >> around the country in order to solicit public comment that will help >> mold this direction. >> >> Unfortunately, the press release outlineing the meetings was not >> received by the general trail riding public until after the first >> meetings had already begun. Somehow, this was not the case for the >> green community, who was out at the first meeting in force. While this >> is disconcerting, it is also an indication of how important it is for >> the riding public to get involved. >> >> A copy of the press release follows. Some of you who have been copied >> on this message have access to riders or motorcycling business leaders >> who are interested in this issue and who reside near one of the cities >> where meetings will be held. I'd appreciate you re-copying those >> individuals. If you are able to attend one of the meetings, please do >so >> >> and be prepared to contribute to it. If you do attend, please let me >> (Eric Lundquist) >> know your impressions and whether you have any specific comments you >> would like AMA to include in our official comments to the Forest >Service >> >> in this matter. >> >> AMA will be attending the Washington, DC meeting. >> >> >> >> USDA Forest Service News Release >> >> Contact: National Media Desk 202-205-1134 >> Alan Polk 202-205-1089 >> E.Lynn Burkett 202-205-0958 >> >> FOREST SERVICE WANTS PUBLIC OPINIONS ABOUT FUTURE MANAGEMENT >> >> Washington, DC (Oct. 19, 1998) -- A series of national public >meetings, >> >> starting Tuesday in Los Angeles, will kick off the US Forest Service's >> development of the Forest Service Strategic Plan (year 2000). The >> Forest Service will be using public meetings, e-mail, letters, surveys >> and faxes to gain public insights about how future Agency programs >> should be managed. >> >> "We are committed to seeking public input before we develop our >> National Strategy," US Forest Service Chief Mike Dombeck said today. >> "Knowing and understanding the expectations of the American public for >> Forest Service programs in the 21st century is critical to determining >> the most appropriate long-term goals and objectives for Forest Service >> programs." >> >> The Government Performance and Results Act requires Federal agencies >to >> >> ". . .solicit , and consider the views and suggestions of those >entities >> >> potentially affected by or interested in" the development of strategic >> plans. The Forest Service is holding public meetings, asking for >written >> >> comments, and conducting a public survey in early 1999. >> >> Dombeck urges the public to provide input by attending one of seven >> meetings or provide it to the Agency in writing. The Agency will be >> accepting written comments by mail, fax, and e-mail. Forest Service >> representatives will be at the meetings to answer questions. >> >> "This first round of public input, supplemented by survey results and >> other information, will provide the foundation for a draft strategic >> plan," Dombeck said. "Once the draft strategic plan has been developed, >> it will be available for public review and comment." >> >> The public meetings are as follows: >> Oct. 20, Los Angeles, Calf., contact: Mike Srago, (415) 705-2855; >> Oct. 27, Seattle, Wash., contact: Dick Phillips, (503) 808-2281; >> Nov. 4, Washington, DC, contact: Rod Kuhn, (202) 205-1033; >> Nov. 10, Atlanta, Ga., contact: Bob Wilhelm, (404) 347-7076; >> Nov. 18, Chicago, Ill., contact: John Dwyer, (847) 866-9311; >> Dec. 1, Albuquerque, NM, contact: Parks Hillyard (505) 842-3202; >> Dec. 3, Denver, Colo., contact: Pam Skeels, (303) 275-5152. >> >> Written comments should be sent to: >> >> USDA Forest Service-SPRA >> Attn: Kathryn P. Maloney >> P.O. Box 96090 >> Washington, DC 20090-6090 >> >> Comments may also be e-mailed at resources.program/wo@fs.fed.us or >> faxed to Kathryn P. Maloney at (202) 205-1546. For additional >> information, call (202) 205-1235, or visit Forest Service web site at >> http://www.fs.fed.us/pl/rpa. >> >> ### > >--------- End forwarded message ---------- > > >-- >David Clemens >dclemens@execpc.com > > >To unsubscribe from Ride-Net, send mail to majordomo@off-road.com >enter only these two words "unsubscribe ridenetl" in the body of the >message. > > ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V1 #343 ****************************