From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V1 #413 Reply-To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Thursday, December 17 1998 Volume 01 : Number 413 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 06:24:36 EST From: LPetty4585@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR ....NKLE... In a message dated 98-12-16 22:09:22 EST, ajax@xmission.com writes: << I'm just back from France, where I saw the GREAT (font size 72) KLE 500. >This bike is awesome. I will be scanning the brochure I have taken which has >great (font size 72 again!) pictures and details. >> Forget the brochures, figure out how to import the bikes. Larry Wishfull in South Texas ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 13:18:04 +0200 (EET) From: Atilla Altay Subject: Re: (klr650) KLE500 On Wed, 16 Dec 1998, Jim wrote: > Anybody rode the KLE500 that has also rode the KLR650? And how does it > compare? Is the motor another version of the 500 ninja and 500 vulcan? I now > a guy who's got 106,000 miles on a 500 vulcan. > Jim - 98 Yes, we're two Japanese bikers in my town(yes only two high displacement japanese trailer in a town!) and other guy rides a KLE for 5 years.The KLE engine, being a twin,delivers power smoother, but still gotta plenty of vibration.It has 12 lt (=3 galloons?) fuel tank which correspond less than 200 km before hitting reserve.Is's got an awful saddle, worst a trailer can have. Third point is that engine has nothing of technological innovation.Nothing changed after it was introduced more than 15 years ago.It doesn't have automatic cam tensioner like my beloved machine, which caused some trouble for my friend.Its street-based suspension makes you keep away from off-road. But I can fairly declare that it's as durable.If it'a soft street trailer what you're looking for, good for you! Atilla ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 07:48:14 -0700 From: Roy Cope Subject: Re: (klr650) Trailer hitch???? > >Speaking of which... > >Does anyone make a trailer hitch for the KLR? > >I saw a neat trailer not too long ago. It's a bike hauler when attached >to a car, and becomes a cargo trailer when attached to the bike. (You >haul the cargo box in the car when the bike is on the trailer.) > >It would be the slickest thing to get the camping gear up the mountain >when you don't have a 4x4 available... > I have a couple of pics I took at Arizonia bike week of a KLR pulling a trailer, never got to talk to the owner, his hitch was a home made affair. Roy Cope ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 08:25:31 -0700 From: Tom Myers Subject: Re: (klr650) Fast Front Fenders... >Has anyone tried getting a Tengai fender from Kawasaki? I'd bet they're >available, but you'd probably get butt-reamed by the price. Anyone know what Tengai means? Is is pronounced "ten guy"? Tom (just wondering) +------------------------------------+ | CycoActive Products tel (206) 323-2349 | 701 34th Ave fax (206) 325-6016 | Seattle, WA 98122 USA | webpage: http://www.cycoactive.com | e-mail: TomMyers@cycoactive.com +------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 17:46:34 +0200 From: Ofer Ben Michael Subject: (klr650) KLE500 Shalom gentleman, My name is ofer ben-michael from ISRAEL and I ride KLR650 96 model (look very different from US model). Here in Israel the KLE500 is selling from 1995 and doing well du to 500cc license category. You can see all the information you wont in the following site: http://www.metro.co.il/index2.html Thanks,,, Ofer. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 98 08:36:05 PST From: "Marick Payton" Subject: (klr650) Shalom Ofer, Welcome to the KLR list. I met 4 of your countrymen in Northern Mexico last summer as I was returning from a trip to the Copper Canyon. They had bought KLR's in California and were riding to Tierra del Fuego. They planned to take 5 months for the trip. Their KLR's were heavily loaded, a big mound of stuff strapped to the back with a spare front and rear tire on top of the pile. Boy, wish I was going along. Marick ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 11:06:58 -0500 From: Cameron Cole Subject: RE: (klr650) Trailer hitch???? I have a VERY nice hitch for my KLR. Check out the site below. I have toted my bike from Ga to Ct and Tn many times. I had to make a change to the brace so the bike sat up higher, but that was because my 96 Blazer sat low. I absolutely love it! http://www.quadrack.com/ - -----Original Message----- From: Roy Cope [mailto:lcope@lanl.gov] Sent: Thursday, December 17, 1998 9:48 AM To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: (klr650) Trailer hitch???? > >Speaking of which... > >Does anyone make a trailer hitch for the KLR? > >I saw a neat trailer not too long ago. It's a bike hauler when attached >to a car, and becomes a cargo trailer when attached to the bike. (You >haul the cargo box in the car when the bike is on the trailer.) > >It would be the slickest thing to get the camping gear up the mountain >when you don't have a 4x4 available... > I have a couple of pics I took at Arizonia bike week of a KLR pulling a trailer, never got to talk to the owner, his hitch was a home made affair. Roy Cope ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 98 08:36:05 PST From: "Marick Payton" Subject: (klr650) Shalom Ofer, Welcome to the KLR list. I met 4 of your countrymen in Northern Mexico last summer as I was returning from a trip to the Copper Canyon. They had bought KLR's in California and were riding to Tierra del Fuego. They planned to take 5 months for the trip. Their KLR's were heavily loaded, a big mound of stuff strapped to the back with a spare front and rear tire on top of the pile. Boy, wish I was going along. Marick ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 98 08:36:05 PST From: "Marick Payton" Subject: (klr650) Shalom Ofer, Welcome to the KLR list. I met 4 of your countrymen in Northern Mexico last summer as I was returning from a trip to the Copper Canyon. They had bought KLR's in California and were riding to Tierra del Fuego. They planned to take 5 months for the trip. Their KLR's were heavily loaded, a big mound of stuff strapped to the back with a spare front and rear tire on top of the pile. Boy, wish I was going along. Marick ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 12:04:42 -0600 From: "Jim Barthell" Subject: Re: (klr650) Trailer hitch???? Ummmm... I thought he was looking for a hitch to PULL a trailer behind the bike. Jim - -----Original Message----- From: Cameron Cole To: 'Roy Cope' Cc: 'klr650@lists.xmission.com' Date: Thursday, December 17, 1998 11:19 AM Subject: RE: (klr650) Trailer hitch???? >I have a VERY nice hitch for my KLR. Check out the site below. > >I have toted my bike from Ga to Ct and Tn many times. I had to make a >change to the brace so the bike sat up higher, but that was because my 96 >Blazer sat low. I absolutely love it! > >http://www.quadrack.com/ > >-----Original Message----- >From: Roy Cope [mailto:lcope@lanl.gov] >Sent: Thursday, December 17, 1998 9:48 AM >To: klr650@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: (klr650) Trailer hitch???? > > >> >>Speaking of which... >> >>Does anyone make a trailer hitch for the KLR? >> >>I saw a neat trailer not too long ago. It's a bike hauler when attached >>to a car, and becomes a cargo trailer when attached to the bike. (You >>haul the cargo box in the car when the bike is on the trailer.) >> >>It would be the slickest thing to get the camping gear up the mountain >>when you don't have a 4x4 available... >> > >I have a couple of pics I took at Arizonia bike week of a KLR pulling a >trailer, never got to talk to the owner, his hitch was a home made affair. > >Roy Cope > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 13:05:59 -0500 From: "Robert frey" Subject: Re: (klr650) Eisner's a*@ whupin' In Defense of the Rat, I mean Mouse, Disney World does provide a parking area for motorcycles at the entrance gate to the magic Kingdom, While all those four wheelers have to ride the trams, you get to get off the bike and go right in. here's the bonus, when I went, they didn't even charge me a parking fee! LMAO at all those cars!!!!!!! Robert Florida, USA - -----Original Message----- From: J.Taylor To: KLR650@lists.xmission.com Date: Wednesday, December 16, 1998 11:27 PM Subject: Re: (klr650) Eisner's a*@ whupin' >Stuart Heaslet wrote: > >> You're absolutely right. Since I'm in Florida, I'll be the designee and >> ride the KLR down to Eisner's place and and beat the crap out of them. >> :-) (in case anybody's wondering.) >> >> Stuart > >I'd love to come along if not to assist in the festivities, to at least >bring the lunch! > >Jake, pugilistic because it feels so good! > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 09:45:59 -0800 From: Jean Philippe Bagel Subject: RE: (klr650) NKLR ....NKLE... I'll try to get some space on Geocities or smtg. - -JP - -----Original Message----- From: Kurt Simpson [mailto:ajax@xmission.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 1998 7:04 PM To: Jean Philippe Bagel; hawatanabe@earthlink.net; klr650@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR ....NKLE... >I'm just back from France, where I saw the GREAT (font size 72) KLE 500. >This bike is awesome. I will be scanning the brochure I have taken which has >great (font size 72 again!) pictures and details. YIIIKKKKESSS...Don't send the pictures to the list (it will be the second email bomb we've had in a week)...but we'd love to see them on your website... Kurt (leave the bombs in Baghdad) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 09:05:36 -0700 From: "Pokluda, Gino F" Subject: RE: (klr650) Fast Front Fenders... >>Anyone know what Tengai means? Horizon Gino ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 10:36:30 EST From: Cloudhid@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR Replacement...NKLE On 12/16/98, hawatanabe@earthlink.net wrote: snip >The latest intelligence suggests that the powers that be at KHI >Headquarters are still debating whether to import the domestic >KLE400 or the European KLE500 into the North American... Hiro, if you and Kurt are through berating the "unreliable, loose cannon", I'll remind you both that if it were not for the field work of covert agents such as JP and myself, this info would have remained concealed. You may have awoke one morning...with no warning...to find that you could no longer buy a new klr. Some in this Country have the luxury from their cozy little beds of passing judgement on the 'unseemly' nature of our work. That's alright. Some of us still serve in the face of criticism. Besides, you'll find in the archives that it was Lister Irishkat who suggested that I go undercover to infiltrate the evil empire that is Kawasaki. Redondo Ron --- silently slippin' in --- stealth mode on ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 08:38:20 -0700 From: "Pokluda, Gino F" Subject: RE: (klr650) Trailer hitch???? >Does anyone make a trailer hitch for the KLR? I don't claim to be an expert, but wouldn't there be a concern having a hitch on something that has a long travel suspension? That would mean that the hitch would have a large range of travel and could induce some wobble into the trailer. This could probably be reduced by having a long tongue on the trailer and the wheels further back than normal. Of course that would mean high tongue weight then. I'll just shut up now. Gino ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 09:00:46 -0600 From: "Bryce Hysjulien" Subject: (klr650) RE: Trailerhitch I'd be interested in a trailerhitch for the KLR also. Paul, could you please post an address for the trailer you were describing in your post. Bryce 98 KLR ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 98 13:31:16 CST From: "John W. Houchins --UNMCVM(JWHOUCHI)" Subject: (klr650) Tengai From: John W. Houchins --UNMCVM(JWHOUCHI) I had no idea, except maybe it was one of those African Deserts. :^), Wrong! I found a online Japanese dictionary that gave two definitions that seem likely:1 beyond the heavens; farthest regions. 2 Horizon; distant land; skyline; heavonly shore; remote region. John whose in a distant land called Nebraska. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 09:10:37 -0600 From: "Bryce Hysjulien" Subject: (klr650) RE: KLE If KHI wants to cut the KLR we can bitch and moan but in the end there probably isn't much we can do. I can count on one hand the number of companies I've dealt with that actually listen to their consumers. My request would be to introduce a 500 to 750 cc machine instead of a 400. Maybe it's the American attitude of bigger is better but I'd be more likely to buy one if it had larger displacement. My .02. Bryce 98 KLR ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 98 13:31:16 CST From: "John W. Houchins --UNMCVM(JWHOUCHI)" Subject: (klr650) Tengai From: John W. Houchins --UNMCVM(JWHOUCHI) I had no idea, except maybe it was one of those African Deserts. :^), Wrong! I found a online Japanese dictionary that gave two definitions that seem likely:1 beyond the heavens; farthest regions. 2 Horizon; distant land; skyline; heavonly shore; remote region. John whose in a distant land called Nebraska. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 98 13:31:16 CST From: "John W. Houchins --UNMCVM(JWHOUCHI)" Subject: (klr650) Tengai From: John W. Houchins --UNMCVM(JWHOUCHI) I had no idea, except maybe it was one of those African Deserts. :^), Wrong! I found a online Japanese dictionary that gave two definitions that seem likely:1 beyond the heavens; farthest regions. 2 Horizon; distant land; skyline; heavonly shore; remote region. John whose in a distant land called Nebraska. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 13:21:41 -0700 From: "Pokluda, Gino F" Subject: RE: (klr650) RE: KLE In defense of the KLE, Kawasaki showed a 600cc version of the KLE two years ago at the dealers show. Unfortunately, they also showed the new Vulcan cruisers which stole the show. So somewhere out there, there is a prototype 600cc twin that could make it's way to the US. Gino ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 16:03:46 EST From: MSchue5938@aol.com Subject: (klr650) trailer hitch on these "dirt" bikes theres nothing back there to connect a hitch too! i've been towing my bicycle behind my klr for months now. check out my web site for a photo. http://members.aol.com/mschue5938/mschuette.html i had to come down from the luggage rack or across from the rear foot pegs. both work but you'll need to put a swivel joint in for a single wheel trailer and or a two dimensional swivel in for a two wheel trailer. i'm working on replacing my bicycle, with a one wheel trailer for carrying my kayak. it would only be for carrying "light" unwielding large objects mainly sporting goods. anything of resonable shape but heavy would ride better on the luggage rack. you won't be able to tow much over 40-50 lbs. or else the handling will dramatically suffer and become dangerous. mark schuette "bicycle carriers for motorcycles" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 14:17:03 -0700 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: (klr650) [Tom Simpson ] swingarm repair - -----Original Message----- From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Date: Wednesday, December 16, 1998 10:56 PM Subject: BOUNCE klr650@lists.xmission.com: Non-member submission from [Tom Simpson ] >>From bullet45@usit.net Wed Dec 16 22:56:41 1998 >Received: from [208.10.171.67] (helo=transfer.usit.net) > by lists.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) > id 0zqWQT-0006Bz-00 > for KLR650@lists.xmission.com; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 22:56:41 -0700 >Received: from -1 (ppp48.coladlp1.scsn.net [208.133.153.48]) by transfer.usit.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA24884 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 00:56:38 -0500 (EST) >Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19981217005735.007c5100@pop.usit.net> >X-Sender: bullet45@pop.usit.net (Unverified) >X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) >Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 00:57:35 -0500 >To: "KLR650-List" >From: Tom Simpson >Subject: Re: (klr650) Swingarm... >In-Reply-To: <007f01be296a$6ab26160$d30746a6@kurt> >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >At 07:55 PM 12/16/98 -0700, Kurt Simpson wrote: >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Bogdan Swider >>Date: Wednesday, December 16, 1998 4:15 PM >>Subject: (klr650) To: "'KLR650@lists.xmission.com'" > >> >> >>Listers: >>1. I'll try again. Has anyone out there cleaned & repacked the swingarm >>bearings? Is it pretty straight forward? How long would it take? I'm not >>talking meatpacking, packing a gun or gerbil packing; Just the Unitrac. >> >> >>____________________________ >> >>Bogdan, here is something from the archives. I'm also copying Tom so that >he'll >>be sure to notice your request for help. Tom, why not post your response >to the >>list. I gather the most critical thing is to unload the swingarm before >>unbolting it..maybe from the rafters of your shop or garage: > > > Pretty much. In my case, I have acess to an Hendy-Lift, so I clamped the >front wheel in place and secured the handle bars with cargo straps, jacked >the rear up and sat the engine case on a milk crate. Afte that it was >pretty much by the book, starting by removal of the shock and spring. Its a >good bit of work, but fairly straighforeward. > > > Holler if you need any help. :) > > >-Tom >'96 KLR 650 >31,300 Miles >Adding new MAP Engineering front rotor next month, and maybe a new shock! > > > > > ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V1 #413 ****************************