From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V1 #414 Reply-To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Thursday, December 17 1998 Volume 01 : Number 414 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 14:16:20 -0700 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: (klr650) NKLR > Hiro, if you and Kurt are through berating the "unreliable, > loose cannon", I'll remind you both that if it were not for > the field work of covert agents such as JP and myself, this > info would have remained concealed. You may have awoke > one morning...with no warning...to find that you could no > longer buy a new klr. Let me remind you Ron that it is you that has many times signed off as my evil twin...Hiro seems to be the one that is always apologizing for you...One can only guess why... But, it is true that you have come up with a number of coups...in fact, the entire list is nearly a twitter waiting for your report on the Big Gun prototype... Keep up the good work... Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 15:19:24 -0800 From: phipps@bulldog.prn.bc.ca (Allan Phipps) Subject: (klr650) Re:KLR - KLE I haven't heard or read why Kawasaki would drop the KLR 650 and replace it with a 400 cc dual sport. Can anyone tell me what Kawasaki is thinking? Would this new bike be as versatile as the KLR? Al ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 15:37:29 -0700 From: Roy Cope Subject: RE: (klr650) Trailer hitch???? >I don't claim to be an expert, but wouldn't there be a concern having a >hitch on something that has a long travel suspension? That would mean that >the hitch would have a large range of travel and could induce some wobble >into the trailer. This could probably be reduced by having a long tongue on >the trailer and the wheels further back than normal. Of course that would >mean high tongue weight then. I'll just shut up now. > I am by no means a authority on the subject either, but I rode with a guy on a R1100GS pulling a trailer up in Colorado last summer, I could't believe it when I first saw it , and he could really haul thru the twisties trailer and all. A GS has a large suspension travel, but then again we never left the pavement. Don't recall the trailer make but it was just a standard bike trailer, he carried a bathroom scale with him so he could adjust the load so it tongue weight was 10% of the load. Roy Cope ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 16:10:30 -0700 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: (klr650) Moab '99...164 days and counting Only 164 days until Moab and not to early to make your reservations at Canyonlands RV/Campgrounds 800-522-6848 http://moab-utah.com/canyonlands/rv.html...this year's official site. They have RV sites, tent camping and, new this year, a few air-conditioned cabins at $29/night. The official dates are June 3-5. Be sure and mention you are with the DualSport group with advance arrangements made by Gino Pokluda. For those who prefer/require Motel lodging the Redstone Inn http://moab-utah.com/redstone/inn.html is right next door (800) 772-1972 . Kurt A12 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 09:41:15 +1000 From: Ted Palmer Subject: Re: (klr650) Fast Front Fenders... Pokluda, Gino F wrote: > >>Anyone know what Tengai means? > > Horizon Which sadly conjures up visions of the horrible Honda 750 Horizon. Mister_T ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 15:37:06 -0700 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: (klr650) Fw: Good friends - -----Original Message----- From: francisco cortes To: bykes klr650 Date: Wednesday, December 16, 1998 11:31 AM Subject: Good friends Hi gang. I need some help my "engine start" klr650 was completely damage in my last ride, so I need to get one ASAP, problem ´s I´m in Mexico City and there´s no one over here. Kawa gave me a month to get one and price is a grossness, that´s why I´m using this resource. If someboby would help this byker I´ll apreciate it. Contact ASAC. PACO ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 17:40:19 -0700 From: "Fabian Cipollone" Subject: (klr650) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 21:38:54 -0300 Hi All list : I need date of GPX / GPZ 250 model 1990/1995 : 1) Carburetor specifications 2) Valve clearence 3) T Marks, and Camshaft Removal (Described ). I can recieve JPG files attachments (graphic file type ) with my email service+ACI- Very Thank for everybody cheers Fabian Cipollone Almirante Brown 220 Monte Buey ( CP 2589 ) Provincia de Cordoba Argentina TE: 0467-71123 chipo+AEA-southlink.com.ar ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 19:06:47 -0800 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Carlos_Y._Gonz=E1lez?=" Subject: Re: (klr650) Re:KLR - KLE - ---------- > From: Allan Phipps > To: klr650@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (klr650) Re:KLR - KLE > Date: Thursday, December 17, 1998 3:19 PM > > I haven't heard or read why Kawasaki would drop the KLR 650 and replace it > with a 400 cc dual sport. Can anyone tell me what Kawasaki is thinking? > Would this new bike be as versatile as the KLR? > Al > I'd be very dissapointed if KHI decided to drop the KLR for the KLE, adding it to the line would be fine, but just don't replace it. I personally don't think a KLE would do me any good. Seriously, what could you do with this bike? Besides saying "look I have a weird bike that no one else has", not much. I can already say that with the KLR _and_ go off-road at the same time. With the exhaust hanging underneath the engine, all that plastic, and a low torque motor, the only trail I would feel comfortable going down on the KLE is one of those paved two lane trails :) My opinion in nutshell: KLR - Utility, versatility, simplicity, off-road capability and "da thump" = KLE* (Gee, sounds like fun, huh? NOT!!) Carlos Milwaukee, WI *this calculation has a 4-5% margin of error, but I'm pretty sure that's what it comes out to. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 21:16:41 -0500 From: Bill Haycock Subject: (klr650) Dual Sport Web page Message Boards As you probably know, there are two message boards on the Dual sport Web page. One board is on the Home page and devoted primarily to Dual Sport Questions. The other board is on the KLR650 specific page. I have been checking these pages and find a lot of evidently first time users are leaving messages with simple KLR questions - they are not being answered! A good way to loose potential LIST members (KLR650 owners) is to "leave them hanging" with their questions unanswered. If you have an extra minute when you log on the net, how about checking these boards and see if you can't answer their questions and also inform them of the LIST and point them toward the "FAQ LIST" page so they can sign on. Appreciate your help here. Bill ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 22:41:28 -0500 From: Michael Kovaliv Subject: (klr650) KLE? What's this about a KLE replacing the KLR? I'm here in Windsor waiting for a 99 KLR650! Is there any truth to this or is it just rumor? I saw the picture of the KLE400 and it does not appeal to me at all. How can a 398cc bike replace a 651cc bike? That's a different class of machine. Do you compare it to the Suzuki DR350 or DR650?. I don't see the improvements over the KLR650, I see more negatives. A 15 L tank doesn't match a 23.1 L and what about highway power on a 398cc compared to a 650? I also like the ease of maintenance of a single and single carb than a twin. Plus it's kinda funny looking, not "beefy" like the KLR. Michael Kovaliv (I got my Kawasaki soft tail trunk the other day, just no KLR yet) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 21:05:38 -0700 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: NKLR Re: (klr650) KLE? - -----Original Message----- From: Michael Kovaliv To: KLR List Date: Thursday, December 17, 1998 8:38 PM Subject: (klr650) KLE? >What's this about a KLE replacing the KLR? I'm here in Windsor waiting >for a 99 KLR650! Is there any truth to this or is it just rumor? > >I saw the picture of the KLE400 and it does not appeal to me at all. >How can a 398cc bike replace a 651cc bike? That's a different class of >machine. Do you compare it to the Suzuki DR350 or DR650?. I don't see >the improvements over the KLR650, I see more negatives. A 15 L tank >doesn't match a 23.1 L and what about highway power on a 398cc compared >to a 650? I also like the ease of maintenance of a single and single >carb than a twin. Plus it's kinda funny looking, not "beefy" like the >KLR. > >Michael Kovaliv >(I got my Kawasaki soft tail trunk the other day, just no KLR yet) > > I can tell you this Michael, no one has suffered more about this announcement than you have - as evidenced by your post 7 months ago: >Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 21:29:13 -0400 From: mkovaliv Subject: (klr650) Tell me it isn't so! Has anybody heard anything about this, or is it bogus? I plan on buying a 99 KLR650 and would hate there not to be one! PRESS RELEASE......for immediate release April 8, 1998 ================================================= In an impressive move to raise the bar for dual sport cycling and meet future global emission requirements, Kawasaki Heavy Industries, Ltd., announced today that the successful and venerable model KLR650 will be replaced with the all new KLE400 A13. The latest offering from Kawasaki is expected to be in dealer showrooms by mid 1999. It features a 398cc liquid-cooled 4-stroke parallel twin engine. The high revving twin will deliver it's maximum power at 9,000rpm. The color will change from it's present Bluish-Green to Greenish-Silver. Styling is a quantum leap over the competition's Funduro. Price TBD. KLE400 http://www.khi.co.jp/mcycle/line_up/mc/mc42e.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 23:15:50 -0500 From: Michael Kovaliv Subject: Re: NKLR Re: (klr650) KLE? Kurt, don't you ever press that "Delete" button on your email program? Mike Kurt Simpson wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Kovaliv > To: KLR List > Date: Thursday, December 17, 1998 8:38 PM > Subject: (klr650) KLE? > > >What's this about a KLE replacing the KLR? I'm here in Windsor waiting > >for a 99 KLR650! Is there any truth to this or is it just rumor? > > > >I saw the picture of the KLE400 and it does not appeal to me at all. > >How can a 398cc bike replace a 651cc bike? That's a different class of > >machine. Do you compare it to the Suzuki DR350 or DR650?. I don't see > >the improvements over the KLR650, I see more negatives. A 15 L tank > >doesn't match a 23.1 L and what about highway power on a 398cc compared > >to a 650? I also like the ease of maintenance of a single and single > >carb than a twin. Plus it's kinda funny looking, not "beefy" like the > >KLR. > > > >Michael Kovaliv > >(I got my Kawasaki soft tail trunk the other day, just no KLR yet) > > > > > I can tell you this Michael, no one has suffered more about this announcement > than you have - as evidenced by your post 7 months ago: > > >Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 21:29:13 -0400 > From: mkovaliv > Subject: (klr650) Tell me it isn't so! > > Has anybody heard anything about this, or is it bogus? I plan on buying a 99 > KLR650 and would hate there not to be one! > > PRESS RELEASE......for immediate release April 8, 1998 > ================================================= > In an impressive move to raise the bar for dual sport > cycling and meet future global emission requirements, > Kawasaki Heavy Industries, Ltd., announced today that > the successful and venerable model KLR650 will be > replaced with the all new KLE400 A13. The latest offering > from Kawasaki is expected to be in dealer showrooms > by mid 1999. It features a 398cc liquid-cooled 4-stroke > parallel twin engine. The high revving twin will deliver it's > maximum power at 9,000rpm. The color will change from > it's present Bluish-Green to Greenish-Silver. Styling is a > quantum leap over the competition's Funduro. Price TBD. > KLE400 > http://www.khi.co.jp/mcycle/line_up/mc/mc42e.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 20:30:19 -0800 (PST) From: Eric Mercer Subject: (klr650) Re: klr650 Meet for a ride At 05:19 PM 12/15/98 -0700, Alex wrote:> >Everybody is welcome. Meeting Location is where Skyline Blvd runs into >Hwy 92. There is, to the best of my recollection, a parking lot at the >cross roads. See you all there at 12 noon (PST) the 19th of December. >Bring a few bucks for lunch. I'll be there on my Tengai. I might even bring a Doe for after lunch. Eric Mercer B2 (TEN GUYS) Ukiah ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 23:48:11 EST From: alyef@juno.com (Alex Yefimov) Subject: (klr650) Re: (nklr650) KLE500 On Thu, 17 Dec 1998 13:18:04 +0200 (EET) Atilla Altay writes: > > But I can fairly declare that it's as durable.If it'a soft >street >trailer what you're looking for, good for you! > > Atilla > > > Might as well buy an F650. Alex ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 23:46:21 EST From: Roundr1@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR Web page Message Board Bill Haycock wrote in part re the KLR650 message board: >I have been checking these pages and find a lot of evidently first time >users are leaving messages with simple KLR questions - they are not >being answered! > >A good way to loose potential LIST members (KLR650 owners) is to "leave >them hanging" with their questions unanswered. I couldn't agree with you more Bill. I apologize for not visiting the message board more often. It's the least I can do in exchange for all the great information your efforts have made available to me. But now that you have me thinking about it, wouldn't it be easier for everyone if instead of directing people to the message board, you just made it easier for them to sign up for the (klr650) list from your web site? That way the questions would get answered and we'd get more owners involved here even if we forget to check the board. Everyone on this list owes you a debt of gratitude. Thanks. John O. Rolling Hills, CA Give a man a fish he eats today...Teach a man to fish and he eats for life. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 13:29:35 +0800 From: linus Subject: Re: (klr650) KLE500 At 01:18 PM 17-12-98 +0200, you wrote: > > >On Wed, 16 Dec 1998, Jim wrote: > >> Anybody rode the KLE500 that has also rode the KLR650? And how does it >> compare? Is the motor another version of the 500 ninja and 500 vulcan? I now >> a guy who's got 106,000 miles on a 500 vulcan. >> Jim - 98 > > Hi all, I used a KLE500 before switching to the KLR650. I was taken up by the attractive styling of the former before realizing later that the single piston beast outperforms the pretty babe in many areas namely riding comfort,feel,torque and offroad riding. With the proper engine mods applied to the KLR ,i wouldn't want to use the KLE again. Sad to say it they are about to discontinue the thumper beast. Linus Former KLE500 94 klr89/Tengai90 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 21:43:25 -0800 (PST) From: Eric Mercer Subject: (klr650) klr650 Tengai fairing >From: Ztib@aol.com >Subject: (klr650) TENGAI fairing > >The Tengai fairing has a molded attatchment point that bolts to the metal >frame of the motorcycle. I, of course, broke that small circular molded >plastic part. The problem is, how do I fix it so as to facilitate a good >strong attatchment point to the frame? Any ideas? Super glue? Fibreglas >repair? Epoxy? I had the same problem on my Tengai. Glue the pieces back together with Ace Hardware multipurpose cement for joining PVC, CPVC, and ABS pipe (available in the plumbing dept). If you need to reinforce the area, use JB Weld. I have also used small pieces of aluminum flashing cut to fit and attached with JB Weld with excellent results. Eric Mercer B2 (TEN GUYS) Ukiah,CA ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V1 #414 ****************************