From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V1 #416 Reply-To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Saturday, December 19 1998 Volume 01 : Number 416 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 14:23:35 -0500 From: "Robert frey" Subject: (klr650) KLE Throughout the years that I have owned Kawasakis(KV75 , KE90, KZ400, KZ750, GPz750, EX500, KLR650) I have never known them (the company) or the dealers to be too bright in marketing and totally unresponsive to consumers. I enjoy their products but when it comes to corporate... their engines running but the oils gone. Good luck Kawy wit da KE400. The KLR could have been so much more in the hands of a more aggressive company! Shoulda been a street legal KLX350, with an updated styling change to the KLR, but alas, the bait has sailed... PS: Cut the 400 twin crap, you've got a perfectly tuned 500 twin than hauls butt, has tractable power and could shed a few pounds. Robert Luv The KLR Ride My KTM ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 14:57:08 -0500 From: "Dan Paulsen" Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR Web page Message Board On Thu, 17 Dec 1998 23:46:21 EST Roundr1@aol.com wrote: >Bill Haycock wrote in part re the KLR650 message board: > >>I have been checking these pages and find a lot of evidently first time >>users are leaving messages with simple KLR questions - they are not >>being answered! Sheeesh! I'm a newbie to this forum and so where is the Dual Sprt Page/ address? Find out how you can win a trip to Nassau in the Bahamas: http://www.dunloptire.com Signup for your FREE Dunlop Rider E-Mail account at: http://www.handleit.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 16:57:45 -0800 From: "Darrel & Deanna" Subject: (klr650) NKLR: Oval pistons et al This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BE2AA7.89228B00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If I ever get too old to ride a real motorcycle I'll get a Harley. Dave Sim ******************************* With sidehack (who needs a centerstand) and antique Acerbis high-speed = fender of course. Right Dave ;>) Darrel A12 "Avenger"=20 - ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BE2AA7.89228B00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

If I ever get too old to ride a real motorcycle I'll get a=20 Harley.

Dave Sim

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With sidehack (who needs a centerstand) and antique Acerbis = high-speed=20 fender of course. Right Dave ;>)

Darrel

A12 "Avenger"

- ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BE2AA7.89228B00-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 17:34:47 -0800 (PST) From: KLR650@webtv.net (Conall O'Brien) Subject: (klr650) Tengai Tengai- Far away place across a distant horizon. Conall KLR650 A4 54k miles ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 01:22:54 -0700 From: "skip faulkner" Subject: (klr650) KLR650- Kawasaki side protectors List, I talked to a Kawasaki rep today about the new side protectors they are putting out. They were supposed to be out by December, but due to the decision to do a change (beef up ) they will be delayed another 4 to 6 weeks. The original price I was quoted was $76 a pair. I was apologized to for the mis-quote and was informed they would list for around $41 a pair. It`s usually the other way around, low price first, then the increase. Question: If KHI was planning on discontinuing the KLR650, why start marketing accessories or additional options now? Just another bad corporate decision?? Skip (who doesn`t think his present riding jacket will hold up to the present 20 below 0) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 20:33:18 +1000 From: Ted Palmer Subject: Re: (klr650) KLE Robert frey wrote: [...] > PS: Cut the 400 twin crap, you've got a perfectly tuned 500 twin than hauls > butt, has tractable power and could shed a few pounds. 250-400cc is a traditional license division in Japan. Maybe the Jap market is more important to KHI than the rest of the world combined. OTOH, 40-50hp isn't too hard from a 400 twin, so maybe KHI wan't to keep the power of the KLE at about the same as the 650 single. Mister_T ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 09:04:22 -0700 From: "josh sammons" Subject: (klr650) discontinued This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01BE2B2E.91A2AD00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just don't see KHI putting out all this aftermarket stuff for a bike = that is going to be discontinued. I just doesn't make any sense. I tend to = look at the KLR as the old VW beetle. Its a classic from the start, make a couple of upgrades about once a decade. I just wouldn't expect any kind = of redesign in the near future. So by my VW logic we will see the = redesigned KLR in about 35 to 40 years. I can't wait. josh 92 klr650 - -----Original Message----- From: skip faulkner To: KLR650 Page Date: Saturday, December 19, 1998 1:24 AM Subject: (klr650) KLR650- Kawasaki side protectors >List, > I talked to a Kawasaki rep today about the new side protectors they = are >putting out. They were supposed to be out by December, but due to the >decision to do a change (beef up ) they will be delayed another 4 to 6 >weeks. > The original price I was quoted was $76 a pair. I was apologized to = for >the mis-quote and was informed they would list for around $41 a pair. = It`s >usually the other way around, low price first, then the increase. > Question: If KHI was planning on discontinuing the KLR650, why start >marketing accessories or additional options now? Just another bad = corporate >decision?? > > Skip (who doesn`t think his present riding jacket will hold up > to the present 20 below 0) > - ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01BE2B2E.91A2AD00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I just don't see KHI putting out all this aftermarket stuff for a = bike=20 that
is going to be discontinued. I just doesn't make any = sense. =20 I tend to look
at the KLR as the old VW beetle. Its a classic = from the=20 start, make a
couple of upgrades about once a decade. I just = wouldn't=20 expect any kind of
redesign in the near future. So by my VW = logic we=20 will see the redesigned
KLR in about 35 to 40 years. I can't=20 wait.
josh
92 klr650
-----Original Message-----
From: skip = faulkner=20 <msfaul@digisys.net>
To: = KLR650=20 Page <klr650@lists.xmission.com&g= t;
Date:=20 Saturday, December 19, 1998 1:24 AM
Subject: (klr650) KLR650- = Kawasaki side=20 protectors

>List,
>   I talked to a = Kawasaki rep=20 today about the new side protectors they are
>putting out. They = were=20 supposed to be out by December, but due to the
>decision to do a = change=20 (beef up ) they will be delayed another 4 to=20 6
>weeks.
>    The original price I was = quoted was=20 $76 a pair. I was apologized to for
>the mis-quote and was = informed they=20 would list for around $41 a pair. It`s
>usually the other way = around, low=20 price first, then the increase.
>   Question: If KHI was = planning on discontinuing the KLR650, why start
>marketing = accessories or=20 additional options now? Just another bad=20 corporate
>decision??
>
>    Skip (who = doesn`t=20 think his present riding jacket will hold=20 up
>          &nb= sp;    =20 to the present 20 below 0)
>

- ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01BE2B2E.91A2AD00-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 10:10:47 -0600 From: "Jim" Subject: (klr650) KLR discontinued?? So if it's seems to be somewhat difficult to find KLR's at the dealers, and the dealers all say they sell very well, why would they get ride of it? Also look at the Voyager. It's been around since the mid 80's and is still a current model... And for the money it's still a very excellent buy. All the magazines say it's one of the worlds favorite adventure bikes. .00015 cent's worth Jim - ------------------------------------------------ > sprecker@inetnebr.com < - ------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 08:55:35 -0800 From: Rob Gendreau Subject: Re: (klr650) Luggage Guy asked about commute luggage.... I use the Kawasaki tail bag. My 10 by 16 inch file folders easily fit inside. If it's rainy, I cram them in a stuffsack first. No problems, and the tailbag removes easily to carry inside. I often carry a suit to work to change into, and I carry that in a Lowe garment bag, which I then slide into a Timbuktoo bicycle courier bag. The courier bag is excellent, with a large comfortable shoulder strap and a body strap that cinches around your body so the bag doesn't suddenly slide forward in a fast stop (an absolute necessity, IMHO, and something missing from the courier bags sold by some motorcycle gear shops). The Lowe garment bag is quite small but holds a suit and shirt easily. It's very minimal, the smallest garment bag I've ever seen. I got mine at Campmor, but I don't think they sell them anymore. With this system I can carry everything inside with me easily, and I have nothing sticking off the side of the bike and potentially impeding me during lane splitting. And it's cheaper than hard luggage by a long shot, tho' not as cheap as bungies and trash bags.... Rob Gendreau Oakland, California gendreau@ccnet.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 10:23:29 PST From: "Paul Christenson" Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR650- Kawasaki side protectors >Question: If KHI was planning on discontinuing the KLR650, why start >marketing accessories or additional options now? I think the rumor of them dropping the KLR is just that... a rumor. Bordering on urban legend in this group... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 11:27:24 -0800 From: "Robert Morgan" Subject: (klr650) Re: NO KLR...Internet Question Good morning all. We haven't been seriously off topic for a few days now, here goes. One of the more common denominators of this list (perhaps more-so than KLR ownership) is the fact that we all are SOMEWHAT computer literate ( I've already stated I' m a doofus at this) and all the using the net to converse. I am seriously considering changing internet service providers. I currently use ATT world net and they have been ok, however recently their offerings have diminished and price increased. The one plus is I can bill my service on my phone bill. What feedback do you all have on competing services; MSN, AoL, Prodigy etc. I, looking for multiple web pages and e mail accounts primarily. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 13:32:41 -0700 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: NKLR Re: (klr650) Re: NO KLR...Internet Question >Good morning all. We haven't been seriously off topic for a few days now, >here goes. One of the more common denominators of this list (perhaps >more-so than KLR ownership) is the fact that we all are SOMEWHAT computer >literate ( I've already stated I' m a doofus at this) and all the using the >net to converse. I am seriously considering changing internet service >providers. I currently use ATT world net and they have been ok, however >recently their offerings have diminished and price increased. The one plus >is I can bill my service on my phone bill. What feedback do you all have on >competing services; MSN, AoL, Prodigy etc. I, looking for multiple web >pages and e mail accounts primarily. I would always check out local ISP's first unless I lived in a place with no local numbers or traveled a lot. We have our entire company on line for $39.95/mo. Locally you can find individual accounts for $12.95/mo. Free web-sites and pop3 email accounts abound. I have set 20 or 30 people up at www.softhome.net for over a year for email. Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 14:09:44 PST From: "James Boyles" Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR650- Kawasaki side protectors Checked with my local dealer today. Had them in the accesories supplement book. List was $78. Was not impressed by what I saw in the picture. If Kaw is changing and the price is in the $40.s I could be convinced. >From owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Sat Dec 19 00:35:59 1998 >Received: from [198.60.22.7] by hotmail.com (1.0) with SMTP id MHotMail309150935323720435065325043325826567378550; Sat Dec 19 00:35:59 1998 >Received: from domo by lists.xmission.com with local (Exim 2.05 #1) > id 0zrHlf-0000ZG-00 > for klr650-goout@lists.xmission.com; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 01:29:43 -0700 >Received: from [205.138.110.204] (helo=digisys.net) > by lists.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) > id 0zrHld-0000ZB-00 > for klr650@lists.xmission.com; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 01:29:41 -0700 >Received: from default (X2modem77.digisys.net [208.150.203.44]) > by digisys.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id BAA04797 > for ; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 01:29:38 -0700 (MST) >Message-ID: <004701be2b28$c9116840$2ccb96d0@default> >From: "skip faulkner" >To: "KLR650 Page" >Subject: (klr650) KLR650- Kawasaki side protectors >Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 01:22:54 -0700 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >X-Priority: 3 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 >Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com >Precedence: bulk >Reply-To: "skip faulkner" > >List, > I talked to a Kawasaki rep today about the new side protectors they are >putting out. They were supposed to be out by December, but due to the >decision to do a change (beef up ) they will be delayed another 4 to 6 >weeks. > The original price I was quoted was $76 a pair. I was apologized to for >the mis-quote and was informed they would list for around $41 a pair. It`s >usually the other way around, low price first, then the increase. > Question: If KHI was planning on discontinuing the KLR650, why start >marketing accessories or additional options now? Just another bad corporate >decision?? > > Skip (who doesn`t think his present riding jacket will hold up > to the present 20 below 0) > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 14:13:29 PST From: "James Boyles" Subject: Re: (klr650) KLE 400 ccs is OK for the around town rider. I sold a low mileage DR-350 to get a KLR, something that could get me around the country without tearing its willing heart up and not stopping every 100 miles for gas. Sure hope Suz and Hon keep the big bore singles. >From owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Sat Dec 19 01:34:49 1998 >Received: from [198.60.22.7] by hotmail.com (1.0) with SMTP id MHotMail3091512888802035065324983325826567389760; Sat Dec 19 01:34:49 1998 >Received: from domo by lists.xmission.com with local (Exim 2.05 #1) > id 0zrIlR-0001OM-00 > for klr650-goout@lists.xmission.com; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 02:33:33 -0700 >Received: from [203.12.238.34] (helo=zhora.replicant.apana.org.au) > by lists.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) > id 0zrIlI-0001O9-00 > for klr650@lists.xmission.com; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 02:33:28 -0700 >Received: (from smap@localhost) > by zhora.replicant.apana.org.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA06755 > for ; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 20:33:00 +1100 >Received: from electra.replicant.apana.org.au(192.168.100.73) by zhora.replicant.apana.org.au via smap (V1.3) > id xma006751; Sat, 19 Dec 98 20:32:37 +1100 >Message-ID: <367B80EE.21ED@replicant.apana.org.au> >Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 20:33:18 +1000 >From: Ted Palmer >Organization: RC17 Proving Labs >X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03 (WinNT; I) >MIME-Version: 1.0 >To: klr650 >Subject: Re: (klr650) KLE >References: <004201be2abb$e8e62380$caf0ffd0@default> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com >Precedence: bulk >Reply-To: Ted Palmer > >Robert frey wrote: > >[...] >> PS: Cut the 400 twin crap, you've got a perfectly tuned 500 twin than hauls >> butt, has tractable power and could shed a few pounds. > >250-400cc is a traditional license division in Japan. >Maybe the Jap market is more important to KHI than the rest of the >world combined. >OTOH, 40-50hp isn't too hard from a 400 twin, so maybe KHI wan't to >keep the power of the KLE at about the same as the 650 single. > >Mister_T > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V1 #416 ****************************