From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V1 #435 Reply-To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Thursday, December 31 1998 Volume 01 : Number 435 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 05:21:03 -0600 From: Hungree Subject: Re: (klr650) Re: - KLR protection.... michael Stecyk wrote: > I'm 6'1-tried those side paniers > from a friend .Construction is great but "obstrutive if long seamed" Hmm, makes me think that they also help some to deflect cold wind (and rain?) from your legs...(I'm thinking about making some 'lowers' for my KLR - primarily to protect my feet when it rains. Now that I've ordered the 'hiway-bar' setup from Tim I should have a nice attachment point). hungree ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 05:53:01 -0600 From: Hungree Subject: Re: (klr650) I bought one! K650dsn@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 12/30/98 4:10:23 PM Mountain Standard Time, > moabmc@lasal.net writes: > > << How are > you going to get both bikes to Moab? >> > > Look's like I may just have to ride just one bike there. I think a 450 mile > trip on a 350 would be fun. > > Gino - -- I remember a local guy who built a sidecar - just a simple framework that quick-attached/detached to his street bike - and he used to haul his dirt bike to the track and back with it... hungree ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 07:17:56 -0600 (CST) From: Dale Borgeson Subject: Re: (klr650) luggage crate/straps > Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 14:36:19 -0500 > From: "Brian Schoonveld" > Subject: (klr650) luggage crate/straps > > >....REI? ........Fastex(tm) buckles? REI is Recreational Equipment Inc. THey are an outdoors supply place. They are on the pricey side but carry only the best quality. If there's not one near you any decent camping/outdoors place should have either pre-assembled straps or straps and buckles for you to make your own. Fastex is the brand name, there are a couple of others that are similar. THey make NRP (Nylon Reinforced Plastic) buckles, snaps, guides, and other stuff for straps - mostly for use on back packs, cloth luggage, etc. Cheers - -- Dale Borgeson dalebor@tiny.net Minneapolis, MN U.S.A. "Motorcycle Touring For Beginners" at www.visi.com/~dalebor ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 09:49:56 EST From: K650dsn@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) Re: - KLR protection.... In a message dated 12/31/98 4:18:27 AM Mountain Standard Time, pzucht@cableregina.com writes: << Hmm, makes me think that they also help some to deflect cold wind (and rain?) from your legs...(I'm thinking about making some 'lowers' for my KLR - primarily to protect my feet when it rains. >> You are correct, sir. The key to mounting the tank panniers is to move them all the way to the front of the tank. I cross the two top straps and lay them where the tank meets the frame. Then I attach the bungees. This moves the panniers as far foward as you can get and leaves plenty of room for legs. Gino ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 09:53:27 EST From: K650dsn@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) luggage crate/straps In a message dated 12/31/98 6:18:58 AM Mountain Standard Time, dalebor@tiny.net writes: << Fastex is the brand name, there are a couple of others that are similar. THey make NRP (Nylon Reinforced Plastic) buckles, snaps, guides, and other stuff for straps - mostly for use on back packs, cloth luggage, etc. >> Nylon straps with a variety of buckles are by far the way to go. I quit using bungees ages ago. One thing I do all the time is I strap my gear to the bike, then I hook a bungee net over everything. This gives you a nice place to stash stuff when you don't want to dig into your bags. Great for drying towels and swim suits too while on the road. Gino ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 12:41:51 -0500 From: Stuart Heaslet Subject: Re: (klr650) Mods for a major trip >I thought I'd share what I'm doing to the KLR for my upcoming trip to Alaska which will be a >shakedown trip for a 14 month assualt on the world. >headlight shield >45L GIVI top case >MSR skidplate >throttle lock >Acerbis handguards/spoilers >Motion Pro Quick Jack >RevPack saddlebags and tank bag >folding enduro mirrors >handlebar thermometer >"dash" digital clock >fuel tank modification as per Skip >relocating fuses and swap to bladed type >roll chart holder >I may change the muffler to an IDS. Where did you get your headlight shield? I'm getting set for Alaska departing May 15 - in addition to some of your list, I installed a Works shock, Progressive fork springs, new fork boots, Jesse panniers, an ugly-as-sin-but-comfy Day-Long seat, crossbar water bottle, heavy duty tubes, Avon Gripsters and a full Motoport suit with GoreTex liners. Not happy with the Clearview shield with Stealth, and the DynoJet 140 w/stock pipe is getting only between 37-42 mpg. I don't plan any more modifications after January since I don't like last minute changes. Am debating whether to rewire the headlamp, and will definitely do the tailight wiring since the Jesse panniers caused the turn signal wire connections to end up in the rear wheel well. I'm also interested in a tool box mounted low and forward of the center of gravity, but haven't quite figured out how to do it. Stuart Juno Beach, FL ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 13:14:10 EST From: Cloudhid@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) Mods for a major trip On 12/31/98, stuart@heaslet.com wrote: snip >I'm also interested in a tool box mounted low and forward of the center of >gravity, but haven't quite figured out how to do it. When my luggage has been too full, I've secured a tool wrap to the highway bar with velcro. This has withstood any of my stupid pranks in the dirt. I recall Carolina Tom posting that he used a metal ammo box on the lower front engine mount. Any pix Tom? Redondo Ron - North, the rush is on... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 14:03:06 +0000 From: Tom Simpson Subject: Re: (klr650) Mods for a major trip At 01:14 PM 12/31/98 EST, Cloudhid@aol.com wrote: >On 12/31/98, stuart@heaslet.com wrote: snip >>I'm also interested in a tool box mounted low and forward of the center of >>gravity, but haven't quite figured out how to do it. > > When my luggage has been too full, I've secured a tool wrap to the > highway bar with velcro. This has withstood any of my stupid > pranks in the dirt. I recall Carolina Tom posting that he used a > metal ammo box on the lower front engine mount. Any pix Tom? > "Carolina Tom"? Have I aquired an official nickname now? :) Yes, I took a bandsaw and cut a USGI .50 camiber ammo can down to about 2" high, rewelded the hinge and latch and bent the latch untill it wrapps around the front of the box, then fitted a bolt that sticks through the bent-around latch. The bolt has a hole in it so I can skip a Cotter key through it to serve as a saftey. Be advised: ammo box steel is moth fairly high in carbon content and very thin, so welding can be troublesome (gotta' get me a MIG gun :) I blew mine full of holes that I had to patch with silicone caulk. Also, be careful about clearance with the front tire. I managed to get another 1/2" or so by cold chisling the factory bash plate mounts off the frame and thus sliding my Moose bash plate back a bit. You also need to grind the rear Moose brackets back a bit for clearance, but I am happier with it this way. Sorry, no photos at the moment. I will be buying a digital camera in a couple of weeks and hope to overhaul my KLR web pages shortly. Its been over a year now. Dang. :) - -"Carolina" Tom '96 "Carolina" KLR 650 31,600 miles (mostly in "Carolina" :) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 13:43:42 +0000 From: Alex Jomarron Subject: (klr650) ATTN: KENNY, BILL, & CARLOS One of my resolutions for 99 is to not procrastinate as much as I did the prior year. Truth be told, that is an annual resolution! Kenny, Carlos, and Bill, I have FINALLY devolped the pics from the 1st Windy City KLRist get together. Unfortunately, the pics did not come out very sharp because of the crappy disposable camera. Nonetheless, send me your mailing address if you'd like one. Paul-Yours is in a stamped envelope awaiting my bravery to go outside into the hostile environment to mail it!! So it's ALMOST in the mail!!!! ;-) Alex --who will NEVER, EVER forget his camera equipment event again! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 14:56:08 EST From: Cloudhid@aol.com Subject: (klr650) NKLR - Goin' to Carolina in my mind o/~ On 12/31/98, bullet45@usit.net wrote: snip >"Carolina Tom"? Have I aquired an official nickname now? :) Unless I see a self scribed moniker, I've affectionately hung one of my own making on each of our fellow listers. Your's being one of the few I can use in polite conversation... Redondo Ron (who was born just a short glide from Kill Devil Hills) "First in flight" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 16:16:19 -0500 From: Stuart Heaslet Subject: Re: (klr650) Mods for a major trip > When my luggage has been too full, I've secured a tool wrap to the > highway bar with velcro. This has withstood any of my stupid > pranks in the dirt. I recall Carolina Tom posting that he used a > metal ammo box on the lower front engine mount. I'm going to see about installing a relatively thin, elongated rectangular and waterproof box to lay parallel to the front plane of the Moose bash plate. Maybe mount it with a couple of rubber engine mount washers and SS Home Depot bolts/washers to the actual plate to clear the bash plate U-bolts. It'll protect the bash plate. :-) I'm gonna assume calcium chloride mud will be all over it. Stuart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 17:29:48 -0500 (EST) From: miketortuga@webtv.net (michael Stecyk) Subject: Re: (klr650) Mods For fuel Dear Stuart, What is the"Fuel tank mod as per Skip"? MIKE {montreal} ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 14:38:33 -0800 From: "Darrel & Deanna" Subject: (klr650) KLR Ride Review (Part I) Here's an account of a recent motorcycling experience. More about motorcycling than motorcycles... ********** As I was passing the town of Mojave just after 7pm, I had the Blind Pig Records 20th Anniversary Collection CD playing, the Chevy's V8 purring and the KLR650 faithfully following on the trailer. Going for a ride! Clear moonlit night with stars aplenty. Temp at about 35F--not bad for this time of year. Let's see, there it is, the sign reading "Death Valley 101". Better get gas before taking it. At the station I don additional layers of clothing. Cruising along the highway, there appears to be a white wall parallel to the road...couldn't be. Not out in this desolate of an area. What is that? Too dark to tell. Looking for a sign indicating where the dirt road is that I'm looking for, a coyote crosses my path. I then notice that there are lots of beady eyes out here. The desert literally comes alive at night. There's my turn off. It's a dirt road with lots of washboard. Now I'm looking for a cabin somewhere on the left side of the road. How far from the road? I don't know--wish I had a spotlight. Finally, I see a light from what appears to be a building. I wonder if that's my party. At the head of the long rocky driveway I spot a cardboard box that has my name scratched on it. This must be the place! The building it seems is a deserted miner's cabin. Terry and his brother Bryan (the Bohemian desert ruler) greet me as I pull up. They weren't expecting me so soon. Their bikes were already unloaded and obviously well ridden, as they were covered in a fine layer of desert dust. Terry's mount is a late model XR600 with the Baja Designs kit, while Bryan rides an earlier DR350 also set up for minimal street duty. Funny thing about the DR, it has RM decals on it. A sign of things to come? Yamaha did it, why not Suzuki? After warming our bones next to the wood burning stove with our favorite beverages and some tunes, it was lanterns out. As dawn cracked, it was colder than a well digger's ax, but coffee and hot cakes made it seem less so. The A12 was chompin' at the bit coming off the trailer and there were doubts about my Gripsters being able to handle the terrain. Wasn't so sure myself since I'd yet to dirt test the Avons (I had mud tested them, but that's another story). No time like the present to see how they'll do! The GPS said we were at 5147 feet and we decided to head for higher ground. The road was nice and wide with intermittent stretches of pavement. My goggles soon bore a reminder to always stay clear of the XR's roost. Not an easy task considering the XR pilot is fast. As we start encountering patches of snow, our lead rider takes a spill. Seems that some water from a spring had frozen on the road and caught him off guard. Riding a little more cautiously now, we soon find another frozen patch on an ascent. So much for higher altitudes today. As we stop to take a breather, we were pleasantly surprised to find some petroglyphs in a pile of boulders. Heading for lower and sunnier ground, the temperature was rising to an eventual 60 something degrees F. The view of the white Saline Valley was breathtaking contrasted with the purplish mountains, backset with scraggly snowcaps. What a diverse Landscape! Grazing cattle seemed somewhat out of place here. But then so did we. (to be continued) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 17:47:06 -0500 From: Michael Kovaliv Subject: (klr650) Performance There have been a fair amount of posts about upgraded mufflers for the KLR650 and how they improve horsepower and performance. Can someone give me an explanation as to how this is accomplished technically? My first thought was that the muffler is the last in the chain of events, after the explosion, so how could it improve power? It obviously does, just how exactly? Thanks, Michael Kovaliv (No KLRs in Windsor yet, but lot's of snow) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 17:55:15 +0000 From: Tom Simpson Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR - Goin' to Carolina in my mind o/~ At 02:56 PM 12/31/98 EST, Cloudhid@aol.com wrote: >On 12/31/98, bullet45@usit.net wrote: snip > >>"Carolina Tom"? Have I aquired an official nickname now? :) > > Unless I see a self scribed moniker, I've affectionately hung > one of my own making on each of our fellow listers. Your's > being one of the few I can use in polite conversation... > Oh. That'll work. :) - -"Carolina" Tom ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 14:00:56 -0700 From: Tom Myers Subject: Re: (klr650) touratech gps 3 mount Hello Josh, Our local Touratech rep from Germany (Alex) will be translating the instructions soon but he has a lot of work ahead of the GPS mounts. My German is limited to tacky impersonations from watching "Hogan's Heroes" as a kid. But I can help you install your your Touratech GPS mount. Give a call sometime. Holiday hours are varied, but if you catch me I'll help! Tom ================================= >hey, >just got my gps 3 and touratech mount. i love both but have one problem. >the touratech mount instructions are in GERMAN. any one who knows how to >put this thing on, or speaks the lovely language of german please contact >me. thanks >josh >'92 klr650 +-------------------------------------+ | CycoActive Products | 701 34th Ave | Seattle, WA 98122 USA | | webpage: http://www.cycoactive.com/gps | e-mail: gps@cycoactive.com | tel (206) 323-2349 fax (206) 325-6016 +-------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 18:10:33 -0500 From: "Dan Paulsen" Subject: Re:(klr650) KLX list On Wed, 23 Dec 98 18:13:18 PST Marick Payton wrote: >Guy, > >You can join the KLX list by sending the following 1-line message > >subscribe klx650-moto > >to majordomo@lists.stanford.edu > >Marick > > Thanks to all who helped a cripple to the other side of the road. You have a good list and I would keep it specific also. 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