From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V1 #457 Reply-To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Tuesday, January 12 1999 Volume 01 : Number 457 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:55:33 -0500 From: Chalz Milliken Subject: (klr650) Big Money Laydowns! I just finished breaking in my Brand New A13 last weekend! This weekend was the first time I was able to really get on it, and it ended up getting on me. I went flying over this little hill in a wooded trial only to find a couple of icy puddles on the other side that I landed on. The bike went down faster than I could blink. A big rock severely deformed my radiator and my side panel broke into 5 pieces. I think I might have bruised a rib on a rock, but that doesn't compare to the pain I got when I heard a new radiator cost $415!! Is there anyway out of this? I think I might start making a metal guard to stop that from happening again. The same guy that makes the side bar protectors should make some radiator bars.. Any Ideas? Chalz A13 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:28:37 -0500 From: mjv2@psu.edu (Mark) Subject: Re: (klr650) Big Money Laydowns! I'd bet an automotive heater core would make a great radiator in a pinch. The heater core in my SAABs are about the same size as the KLR radiator. The big issues would be in mounting it to the frame and making the hose connections.... I think. Mark, B2 At 9:55 AM 1/11/99, Chalz Milliken wrote: >I just finished breaking in my Brand New A13 last weekend! This weekend >was the first time I was able to really get on it, and it ended up >getting on me. I went flying over this little hill in a wooded trial >only to find a couple of icy puddles on the other side that I landed on. >The bike went down faster than I could blink. A big rock severely >deformed my radiator and my side panel broke into 5 pieces. I think I >might have bruised a rib on a rock, but that doesn't compare to the pain >I got when I heard a new radiator cost $415!! Is there anyway out of >this? I think I might start making a metal guard to stop that from >happening again. The same guy that makes the side bar protectors should >make some radiator bars.. Any Ideas? > >Chalz >A13 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:44:15 EST From: Krgrife@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) Replacing cooling hoses In a message dated 1/10/99 5:38:36 PM Pacific Standard Time, klr650@bellsouth.net writes: << Just out of curiosity, do the KLR cooling hoses need to be replaced with the "formed" hoses from Kaw or can they be replaced with auto store "off the roll" stock of the same diameter? Mine don't need replacing but thought I'd ask before I need to. >> I just replaced all three hoses on my 91, cost about $50.00. The old hoses still looked good so I expect the new ones to last for another 6-7 years which makes the price a little more bearable. It appears to me that the routing past the exhaust header is critical and I didn't want to risk melting a hose and so went with the factory parts. Kurt Grife Avila Beach, Ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 07:58:53 -0800 From: Brian Subject: Re: (klr650) Big Money Laydowns! I bet the htr core in your Saab is probably in the same $$ ballpark as the KLR rad. Wonder if it could work ? Mark wrote: > The heater core in my SAABs are about the same size as the KLR radiator. > The big issues would be in mounting it to the frame and making the hose > connections.... I think. > Be glad, a rad is cheap compared to some of the more important parts that could have been injured, glad to here you are ok. > > At 9:55 AM 1/11/99, Chalz Milliken wrote: > >I think I might have bruised a rib on a rock, but that doesn't compare to > the pain > >I got when I heard a new radiator cost $415!! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:22:10 -0700 From: "Fred Hink" Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR - -----Original Message----- From: Bogdan Swider Date: Sunday, January 10, 1999 11:59 PM Subject: (klr650) To: "'klr650@lists.xmission.com'" >THE FINAL INSULT Upon reading my very own post from last night I find >that even in death my nemesis the "Supper Trapp" has again gotten the better >of me. The can has exposed me as a super-challenged speller. I should have >written Supper Tripe or Super Tripe. Bogdan P.S. Fred: Upon closer >examination (looking down the pipe), I believe the brute actually was an >E.A.R. I had tripe for supper O N C E My excuse was that I was young and foolish and didn't know any better. Fred ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:27:57 -0700 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: (klr650) NKLR Anti-Fog from the GS List Here is the results from a review of some of the anti-fog products from Motorcycle Consumer News 2/96: 1. Smith No Fog Cloth (best) 2. Kleer Vu Lens Cloth 3. Kleer Vu Spray 4. Fog Off! 5. Cat Crap Paste 6. Brite Sight Paste 7. Speedo Anti-Fog Drops 8. JT Majik Spray 9. Star Brite Cleaner 10. Baush & Lomb Tissues (worst) The review listed FogCity in a class by itself and as being the best anti-fog system. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 11:38:44 EST From: Cloudhid@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) Carb floats...[overflow] Excerpt from pipeline.com/~randyo/Maintenance/Fuel_System.htm: >The other opening, the overflow tube, prevents the float bowl >from overflowing should the float needle malfunction...[...]...The >overflow tube is usually connected to a long rubber hose, similar >to the fuel line hose but smaller in diameter, that is routed to >empty onto the ground under the bike. Sadly our CVK-40 doesn't have an overflow hose. The hose that comes off the left side and routes near the rear tire is a vent to allow the float bowl to remain at atmospheric pressure so that the vacuum in the venturi will draw fuel into the air stream. This vent opening is located so high on the carb, You'd have to be well past a peg scraping lean angle for fuel to escape through it. Redondo Ron - [[[[ This End Up ]]]] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:56:45 -0700 From: "Tim Bernard" Subject: Re: (klr650) Big Money Laydowns! W e are in the process of designing a radator guard for thr KLR. We hope to have one by the 20th. Hope the ribs feel better. Remeber KLR stands for Kant Leave Road. Happy Trails Tim - -----Original Message----- From: Chalz Milliken To: 'KLR650' Date: Monday, January 11, 1999 8:10 AM Subject: (klr650) Big Money Laydowns! >I just finished breaking in my Brand New A13 last weekend! This weekend >was the first time I was able to really get on it, and it ended up >getting on me. I went flying over this little hill in a wooded trial >only to find a couple of icy puddles on the other side that I landed on. >The bike went down faster than I could blink. A big rock severely >deformed my radiator and my side panel broke into 5 pieces. I think I >might have bruised a rib on a rock, but that doesn't compare to the pain >I got when I heard a new radiator cost $415!! Is there anyway out of >this? I think I might start making a metal guard to stop that from >happening again. The same guy that makes the side bar protectors should >make some radiator bars.. Any Ideas? > >Chalz >A13 > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:51:14 -0500 From: Bill Haycock Subject: (klr650) Re: Dual Star I sent your email on to Gino for action - as far as I know they do not have a site. Gino will call them and see what gives. Bill Webmaster Edward King wrote: > Gino or Bill: You have dual-star advertising in the newsletter. They > have advertised for almost a year of a dual-star.com website. > Nothing!!!Please have them get it working, or quit advertising the site > address! Otherwise, the newsletter is great, & the website is great. I > get about a dozen motorcycle magazines and stuff a month. Dualsport news > is the only one read immediately, word for word...non stop. Ed King > 11JAN99 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:13:17 -0500 From: Bill Haycock Subject: (klr650) Touratech Panniers Just posted an article on the Touratech Panniers - is on the KLR650 Page "Accessories" Bill ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:08:32 -0800 From: "FMifflin" Subject: Re: (klr650) Re: Help Listers, Thanks for the tips. Although i am not mechanically inclined, I will follow up all the suggestions myself. I would like to keep it a low tech and dollar situation if possible. My gut tells me that the float bowl is the culprit... thanks again. Forrest (missing the obvious again) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 20:10:38 -0500 From: "Robert frey" Subject: (klr650) website The Withlacoochee DualSport Riders website has been updated. dance through it and provide some feedback. Thanks. http://www.geocities.com/Baja/Canyon/5245 Robert WDSRC Florida, USA ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jan 99 18:42:20 PST From: "alyef@iname.com" Subject: Re: (klr650) shifter Now suppose one crashes not bad enough to terminate life, but bad enough = to destroy the stock shifter. However, one has an IMS shifter. Is it poss= ible to damage the shift mechanism because the shift lever did not "break= away" on impact, but transfered the impact load to the shift mechanism? = Has anyone experienced this? If it could happen, better just carry a spar= e shift lever; at least it would be easier and cheaper to fix. Alex ( with appearently not enough crash experience! ) - ---------- > At 10:25 PM 1/10/99 -0500, Brian Schoonveld wrote: > >Wayne writes: > > > >>...........upgraded the gear shifter to an IMS gear shifter > > > > > >What is the benefit of this add-on? I think I may have asked this = of the > >list previous, but I'm not sure what the answer was. > > > Because the factory won *shall* crack and fail and leave you stranded > and > just generaly screw up your whole day. On the othjer hand, if you do = manage > to crash hard enough to break the IMS part you will be too busy being = dead > to worry about filing a warranty claim. They can be bent into a pretzl > repeatedly and keep on truckin'. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 19:53:54 -0800 From: FrenchX Subject: (klr650) Buying a New KLR? Hello all-- Has anyone bought a '99 KLR yet? I was interested in one but I want to make sure that I'm not getting hosed by the dealer. Any advice on a new bike purchase? My other bike (78 KZ650) I bought for only $500, so this is a huge jump--heck the tax and license alone is more than my KZ! Is it worth it? Is the additional 3-year warranty worth the extra $400? I think it's the most versatile and affordable bike on the market right now and the test spin was fun. There aren't any dealer incentives for buying one as inventory is always low on these models. Any thoughts or advice would be most welcome. Thanks for your input! It's great that there's so much networking going on for this bike---it's a pleasant surprise! Michael ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 20:01:51 -0800 From: Brian Subject: Re: (klr650) More BigGun Exhaust // Rear Brake Cover !! Off topic for a minute, I saw the page you posted on the cobra exhaust, however I am very interested in the rear brake cover you have on your KLX. Is it available for the KLR, does it provide good protection (aluminium?) to the rear braking system ? How does it dissipate the heat ? One last question, how much does it lighten the pocketbook ? Brian A12CE 7k > http://members.aol.com/cloudhid/biggunklx.jpg > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 00:15:31 EST From: Cloudhid@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) More BigGun Exhaust // Rear Brake Cover !! On 1/11/99, brbo@uniserve.com wrote: snip >I saw the page you posted on the cobra exhaust, however I am >very interested in the rear brake cover you have on your KLX. >Brian A12CE 7k > >> http://members.aol.com/cloudhid/biggunklx.jpg Brian, it's not my bike. I'd love to have it, but it belongs to a Big Gun customer, (not Cobra). If I can get any info on the brake cover, I'll pass it on. Redondo Ron A10 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 22:27:43 -0700 From: "Fred Hink" Subject: Re: (klr650) More BigGun Exhaust // Rear Brake Cover !! - -----Original Message----- From: Cloudhid@aol.com To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Cc: brbo@uniserve.com Date: Monday, January 11, 1999 3:21 PM Subject: Re: (klr650) More BigGun Exhaust // Rear Brake Cover !! >On 1/11/99, brbo@uniserve.com wrote: snip > >>I saw the page you posted on the cobra exhaust, however I am >>very interested in the rear brake cover you have on your KLX. >>Brian A12CE 7k >> >>> http://members.aol.com/cloudhid/biggunklx.jpg > > Brian, it's not my bike. I'd love to have it, but it belongs > to a Big Gun customer, (not Cobra). If I can get any info > on the brake cover, I'll pass it on. > > Redondo Ron A10 > > > > That cover looks like a Devol. Fred ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 00:48:09 EST From: Cloudhid@aol.com Subject: (klr650) Devol Brake Cover On 1/11/99, moabmc@lasal.net wrote: >That cover looks like a Devol. Fred, can you get these for the KLR? Fronts too? Ron ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 22:51:43 -0700 From: "Fred Hink" Subject: Re: (klr650) Devol Brake Cover - -----Original Message----- From: Cloudhid@aol.com To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Cc: moabmc@lasal.net ; brbo@uniserve.com Date: Monday, January 11, 1999 3:54 PM Subject: (klr650) Devol Brake Cover >On 1/11/99, moabmc@lasal.net wrote: > >>That cover looks like a Devol. > > Fred, can you get these for the KLR? Fronts too? > Ron > > I can get the front & rear for the KLX but have no way of knowing if they will fit the KLR. Fred ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 01:11:59 +0000 From: Tom Simpson Subject: Re: (klr650) Buying a New KLR? At 07:53 PM 1/11/99 -0800, FrenchX wrote: >Hello all-- > >Has anyone bought a '99 KLR yet? I was interested in one but I want to make >sure that I'm not getting hosed by the dealer. Any advice on a new bike >purchase? My other bike (78 KZ650) I bought for only $500, so this is a huge >jump--heck the tax and license alone is more than my KZ! Is it worth it? Is >the additional 3-year warranty worth the extra $400? I think it's the most >versatile and affordable bike on the market right now and the test spin was >fun. There aren't any dealer incentives for buying one as inventory is >always low on these models. Any thoughts or advice would be most welcome. >Thanks for your input! > >It's great that there's so much networking going on for this bike---it's a >pleasant surprise! Well, its not like this is an unbiased croud you are asking, but... :) What do you want to do with the bike? As far as I am concerned, the only the KLR is much less than ideal for is long, hammering Interstate runs. - -Tom '96 KLR 650 31,700 miles ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 01:13:50 +0000 From: Tom Simpson Subject: Re: (klr650) shifter At 06:42 PM 1/11/99 PST, alyef@iname.com wrote: >Now suppose one crashes not bad enough to terminate life, but bad enough to destroy the stock shifter. However, one has an IMS shifter. Is it possible to damage the shift mechanism because the shift lever did not "break away" on impact, but transfered the impact load to the shift mechanism? Has anyone experienced this? If it could happen, better just carry a spare shift lever; at least it would be easier and cheaper to fix. No, the IMS shiftert dosent have to break away becasue it *bends* very, very nicely, and can be rebent indefinatly. - -Tom '96 KLR 650 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 08:37:47 +1000 From: Ted Palmer Subject: Re: (klr650) Carb floats...[overflow] Cloudhid@aol.com wrote: [...] > This vent opening is located so high on the carb, You'd have to be > well past a peg scraping lean angle for fuel to escape through it. When my float needle was playing up, quite a few times when starting off from lights the back tyre would spin up in a puddle of petrol on the painted line, so the vent can drain as well. Mister_T ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V1 #457 ****************************