From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V1 #463 Reply-To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Thursday, January 14 1999 Volume 01 : Number 463 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:08:55 -0800 From: "Darrel & Deanna" Subject: (klr650) DS Ride on Jan. 31 frjsmithjr@webtv.net (F. J. Smith) wrote: I just heard from a reliable source that there is suppose to be a dual sport ride on the 31st of this month, and the starting point is here in Palmdale(?) at 9 AM. This is news to me. Does anyone out there know about this?. If so, how about filling me and everyone in on the details. Jim (rarin' to go in Palmdale) ***************************************** News to me as well Jim. Dual Dogs next scheduled ride isn't until July 4th in the Redding area (Six Days of N. California) and AMA D-37s next one is Jan 23 & 24 out of Ridgecrest. Isn't the the 31st Superbowl Sunday? Darrel ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 23:09:45 -0700 From: "skip faulkner" Subject: Re: (klr650) Out of gas yet? 6.1 for my >>KLR. Yet I run out on the main after 225 miles. What is the typical >>range for the main, and has any body ran their reserve out of gas. For myself I pull in at >>around 230 miles for gas, but I think that I should be able to get more >>range on a tank. 50 mpg times 6 gal equals 300 miles range. I really >>don't want to test its limits commuting on the freeway, so what is the >>general range opinion on a tank of gas.. >>Tony >Tony, you just said the magic word "hall of fame post"...we have about a half a dozen >of these gems from the first year of operation and this is the first repost of Dr. >Moreau's first operation...so here it is in all its glory... Tony, Just a note to let you know that after installation of the fuel mod and the internal hose settling to the bottom of the tank, I now average 28 miles on the unusable fuel, which gives me an average of 298 miles per tank with the type of driving I do, which tends to be mostly hiway during the week (none since of a month ago). Yes Kurt, I`m still here, just no time right now, especially with my engine out and on the floor of my shop. Will be talking to you and Ron soon. Skip (who`s sorry to disappoint the Listers that had thought they had seen the last of my looong posts, I have a few left in the saddlebags) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:28:34 -0800 From: Brian Subject: (klr650) MT 21 I have seen a few questions on the Pirelli MT21 from the list, and stumbled on this positive review... http://www.motorcycle.com/mo/mcbeware/pirellimt21.html Brian A12CE 7k ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:12:08 -0000 From: "Eric Jasniewicz" Subject: (klr650) KLR Acerbis good news, well maybe ... Fw: KLR Parts I got this response from Acerbis. If you email Rob, please state "KLR Parts" in the subject line so we don't kill him with email. From the responses I received from Acerbis, it is clear they have people there trying to work this out, but it is a business. Who knows, if they are convinced we are a decent market-size, maybe they will expand their product line for the KLR. It will be a few weeks before that high-output stator is available, I'm still working on it. - -----Original Message----- From: Rob Gladden To: ericjazz@mindspring.com Date: Wednesday, January 13, 1999 1:14 AM Subject: KLR Parts >Thank You for your inquiry Eric. Those KLR's seem to have a very loyal >following, yours is not the only request I have received. > >I've sent a request to the factory that they search the rafters and the >corners of the warehouse for any of the disc guards that may be left. > >Do you have any idea how many of the disc guards your group would need? > >I can order the Fast front fenders in white. It will take 90 days for them >to arrive, and they would need to be prepaid. Again, any idea on the quantity? > >We would love to take care of your needs. We appreciate your support. If >there is any way for me to get these disc guards I will. > >I look forward to your response. I have Italy waiting. > >Thank You!!! > >Rob Gladden >Acerbis USA > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 04:32:12 -0700 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: (klr650) Poseur or not... To Fred and all true off-road knowledgeable list patrons: With the recent list excitement about Devol/Ahhhh...chair......bisss brake guards and the like I started to page through my giant White Bros catalog. It occurred to me that their were probably lots of parts that could work on KLR's if we could just have a way of measuring our bikes having a contact with Devol and checking key measurements. Then, I thought, nawwww, not likely. So, then it was, well maybe Fred could order the stuff in, have a local KLR guy stop in and line it up to see if it would work and if it didn't return it to his supplier with maybe a list patron or two being willing to put up the restocking fee if any... nawwwwww...then I thought... You know, where do I intend on going with the bike anyway and what is likely to need protecting? Most of us have dashed any lingering illusions about the venerable KLR being a true dirt bike. What does that leave? I call it an "all-road" bike...give me anything that anyone could/would call a road and the KLR will handle it. Maybe just a bit more in my hands but not much more. So, what is likely to need protecting? Fred et. al., what does a good all-road bike need to have protected? Has anyone on the list ever broken anything in a fall that they haven't mentioned to us (shame!). The list has reported the following potential breakdowns (only some of which are protection related): 1) the rear brake master cylinder area. The master stay, the black plastic thingee that comes out of the master cylinder. I now carry spares of both. And, I have Pat Hensley's Z guard fix...http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page41.html 2) radiator...we now have two reports of radiator/fan damage. Tim B. is out back with his fig welder working on that... 3) license plate...easily fixed before going off-highway by moving the mounting bracket see WebPage.. 4) shift lever...Tim and Fred have aftermarket upgrades...carry the stocker for a spare... 5) footpeg slippage...I use IMS w/o rubber full-time, available through Fred 6) handlebars/levers/stalks/cables...nothing unusual here...wait till they bend...good excuse for Renthal Jimmy Button's...Ahhhhhh...chair......bis.......or Moose handguards...don't need a clutch anyway (spare clutch cable anyone?)...neutral safety switch gone... 7) float blockage...seems like a good 500 mile maintenance thing would be to remove the fuel line/drop the float bowl and give a shot of air to clean out factory debris in the carb that some of us have run into in the first 1,000 miles....Would that help/hurt anything Fred? 8) intermittent fuse problems...Dr. Moreau's circuit breaker mod (soon to be released) or simply relocate fuses with blade type fuses... 9) front brake caliper damaged in fall...Cameron Cole nearly totaled his new bike while testing its off-road capabilities. He reported that the Ahhhh.....chair......bis brakeguard didn't help prevent the caliper from being damaged... blank...I can't remember anyone reporting anything else bent or damaged...additional crash/breakdown reports? Kurt (sleepless in Salt Lake) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 04:38:54 -0700 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR Acerbis good news, well maybe ... Fw: KLR Parts >>I can order the Fast front fenders in white. It will take 90 days for them >>to arrive, and they would need to be prepaid. Again, any idea on the >quantity? >> >>We would love to take care of your needs. We appreciate your support. If >>there is any way for me to get these disc guards I will. >> >>I look forward to your response. I have Italy waiting. >> >>Thank You!!! >> >>Rob Gladden >>Acerbis USA Good work Eric. BTW, Fred has some fast front fenders in white from another Italian company. I bought one but haven't had the time to take it out of the box. Looks good though...about $30 something... Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 03:44:14 PST From: "Juan Villarreal" Subject: (klr650) Tire Balancing "You can balance your wheels close enough by spinning. Slowly rotate your wheel mounted in a wheel truing stand. You can use your bikes swing arm or the forks to mount your wheel in if there is no seal drag. When the wheel stops in the same spot, the light part of the wheel will be at the top and that is where you will use the wheel weights to balance it. Spin the wheel and see if you put on enough weight or need some more. There are several types of wheel weights. The easiest kind is the stick-on type. The type I would use on spoked (dirt bike) type wheels crimps on the spokes. When you spin your wheel and it doesn't stop in the same spot each time then you have it balanced." Wow Fred, I didn't know that balancing a wheel could be that easy (or at least it SOUNDS easy). Thanks for letting us in on it... Juan Villarreal > >Fred > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 08:10:56 -0500 From: "J.Taylor" Subject: (klr650) IMS Shift lever One of my local shops has two IMS shift levers to fit a KLX 650 ( the package says KLX 650-C and KLX 650-R). Does anyone know either will fit the KLR before I take mine off and drive back down there? Jake ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 08:06:10 -0500 From: Bill Wright Subject: Re: (klr650) Out of gas yet? Tony wrote: > What is the typical range for the main, and has any body ran their reserve > out of gas. Did > your bike then actually take 6.1 gallons. Ok here's what I really want to > know, when do you people stop to get gas? Tony, I think every KLR has a slightly different size tank. I have filled up a number of times immediately after switching to reserve. The amount of gas required is always 4.75 gallons. Based on my riding style I get anywhere from 250 to 280 miles before switching to reserve. I had an opportunity run out of gas once on a short trip while on the interstate. By laying the bike down on the left side some of the 'super secret reserve' gas sloshed over to the petcock side of the tank and got me another few miles to next exit. When I filled up it took 6.05 gallons. When I switch to reserve at 260 miles I feel confident that I can get another 60 miles before stopping for gas. Just carry a 22oz fuel bottle for a Coleman stove in your tank bag and intentionally run out of gas a couple of times to check your volumes. Bill Wright Hotlanta, GA. 98 KLR650 - "Special K" - 21k miles ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 08:14:13 -0500 From: MRatta@ADE.com Subject: RE: (klr650) NKLR helmets... Hehehe, I know what you mean. A year ago I would never have thought of spending this much money on a lid. But I've gon through several street and dirt helmets in the past few years and they've all had something about them that really annoyed me like poor fit or extra wind noise. the DS is a great helmet. Sounds great but, I ain't plunking down no $400!!! I found a real nice white Shoei for under $200. But thanks for the input!!! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:12:41 +0000 From: Tom Simpson Subject: Re: (klr650) IMS Shift lever At 08:10 AM 1/14/99 -0500, J.Taylor wrote: >One of my local shops has two IMS shift levers to fit a KLX 650 ( the >package says KLX 650-C and KLX 650-R). Does anyone know either will fit >the KLR before I take mine off and drive back down there? Given that IMS makes a KLR-specific part and that nothing else of concequence interchanges between the two bikes, you can assume not. - -Tom '96 KLR 650 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 07:46:11 -0700 From: "Fred Hink" Subject: Re: (klr650) IMS Shift lever - -----Original Message----- From: J.Taylor To: KLR650@lists.xmission.com Date: Wednesday, January 13, 1999 11:11 PM Subject: (klr650) IMS Shift lever >One of my local shops has two IMS shift levers to fit a KLX 650 ( the >package says KLX 650-C and KLX 650-R). Does anyone know either will fit >the KLR before I take mine off and drive back down there? > >Jake > > IMS makes a shift lever specific for the KLR. This is not saying that the KLX might fit (I don't know) but there are two different shift levers. Seems like we have went throught this before and they won't interchange. Better be safe and get the right one. I just happen to have them in stock. Fred ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 07:46:19 -0700 From: "Fred Hink" Subject: Re: (klr650) Poseur or not... - -----Original Message----- From: Kurt Simpson To: List KLR Date: Wednesday, January 13, 1999 9:37 PM Subject: (klr650) Poseur or not... >To Fred and all true off-road knowledgeable list patrons: > >With the recent list excitement about Devol/Ahhhh...chair......bisss I don't want to be the bearer of bad news but... I have heard all sorts of ways to pronounce Acerbis. The correct way that I know is *Ah-chair-bee* ;) >So, then it was, well maybe Fred could order the stuff in, have a local KLR guy stop >in and line it up to see if it would work and if it didn't return it to his supplier >with maybe a list patron or two being willing to put up the restocking fee if any... >nawwwwww...then I thought... I would be glad to do this... If someone wants to be the tester and pay the shipping I will send them whatever they want.(booze & wild women not inc.) Kurt, since you brought this up?? >2) radiator...we now have two reports of radiator/fan damage. Tim B. is out back with >his fig welder working on that... I can get a metal fan blade for the KLR that would be much stronger than the plastic one. "176 Aluminum Radiator Fan Blades KL42 Hiltsystem Aluminum $56.66 Has two more blades than stock and different pitch" >7) float blockage...seems like a good 500 mile maintenance thing would be to remove >the fuel line/drop the float bowl and give a shot of air to clean out factory debris >in the carb that some of us have run into in the first 1,000 miles....Would that >help/hurt anything Fred? I usually do this and any time I put on a new gas tank. There is always crud from the manufacture that gets in there and will end up in the jets of the carb. >9) front brake caliper damaged in fall...Cameron Cole nearly totaled his new bike >while testing its off-road capabilities. He reported that the >Ahhhh.....chair......bis brakeguard didn't help prevent the caliper from being >damaged... Have you ever looked at the front of your wheel to see how far out the rotor is sticking past the tire? It is not very far and for a rock to hit your rotor it is pretty hard. I ride all over canyon country with lots of rocks and without a front disc guard. In the past ten years I have only had one rock hit that was of any consequence. The plastic rotor guards maybe help dress up your bike but I seriously doubt that they will stop your rotor from getting bent. I use a "shark fin" for the rear rotor because that is where the most damage will occur. You can't watch where your rear wheel is going like you can for the front. I see lots of rock hits on the shark fin that would have hit the rotor. They are about $23 and don't list one for the KLR but they can be bolted to some brackets (welded on, custom fabricated). Fred > >blank...I can't remember anyone reporting anything else bent or damaged...additional >crash/breakdown reports? > >Kurt (sleepless in Salt Lake) > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 08:15:26 -0700 From: "Pokluda, Gino F" Subject: RE: (klr650) Poseur or not... >>Most of us have dashed any lingering illusions about the venerable KLR being a true dirt bike. What does that leave? I call it an "all-road" bike...give me anything that anyone could/would call a road and the KLR will handle it.<< Kurt, If you ever feel you do not get enough email, post a message like that on the BMW GS list (substituting GS for KLR of course) and your inbox will runnith over. Trust me I know. Anyway, a KLR that has any intents on riding off road must have a better skid plate that protects the oil drain plug which hangs below the frame rails. To be honest, if it wasn't for the fact that most of the stuff on my KLR was available to me at a highly reduced price, I wouldn't have much of it on the bike. My list of "must haves" for the KLR are... fork springs, rejet for stock pipe, skid plate, Acerbis rally guards, steel foot pegs, brighter headlight, side protector racks. Gino ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V1 #463 ****************************