From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V1 #470 Reply-To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Monday, January 18 1999 Volume 01 : Number 470 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 17:57:16 -0700 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: Re: (klr650) carb bolts |Jake, |How can I purchase some of your bolts for the carb float bowl as I have one |that the head is stripping out and want to replace it with a better bolt. |Thanks |Larry Alas, David is not on-line and probably a good thing. I've thought a couple of times about giving him one of the orphaned machines at work and then I think that it would, as Robert Bly wrote in Iron John, "end his former art and life." Contact Jake at: Sagebrush Machine Shop 49S 400W Milford, UT 84751 (435) 387-5575 Don't call if you are in a hurry... Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 20:22:28 EST From: LPetty4585@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) *%#<"+! SCREWS In a message dated 1/18/99 12:45:09 AM !!!First Boot!!!, robertlmorgan@worldnet.att.net writes: << Don't think for an instant anything you have already in a bazillion buckets of bolts is anywhere close. They must be made of alleviated unobtanium in a size all their own. Bicycle parts, Volkswagen, Porsche, Audi, Benz parts.....no way. Solex, Zenith, Weber carb parts....no sir. >> Sounds like the rest of the bike, I don't think they use the same size bolt more than twice on the bike I spent $28 the other day at the dealer just in bolts. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 20:20:41 -0000 From: "Eric Jasniewicz" Subject: (klr650) KLR Kawi part number for saddlebag supports? Anyone got 'em? How about a price? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 22:19:57 EST From: Krgrife@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR Kawi part number for saddlebag supports? In a message dated 1/17/99 6:17:25 PM Pacific Standard Time, ericjazz@mindspring.com writes: << Anyone got 'em? How about a price? >> Last time my buddy the parts manager checked he was told they would be available late this month at a price of $41.00. I will ask him to check again Tuesday and see if I can get a part # and availability update. I will post any info that he can get me. Kurt Grife ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 20:46:51 -0700 From: Tony Subject: (klr650) 285 not 185 Just read my posting, correction 285miles not 185. Tony > Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 19:42:12 -0700 > From: Tony > Subject: (klr650) Out of gas yet? > > Thanks for all of the responses regarding my KLR gas inquires. Today I gased up > with 185 miles on the trip. It took about 5.5gallons. I did the "tip the bike > trick", to sloush gas to the valve side. Looks like I could of went another 25 > miles or more 5.5 - 6.1 @50+mpg. I dont think that Ill do the tank mod since the > tip trick seems to work for me. Thanks again. > Tony phx. 9001 miles now, it just fliped 9k at the gas pump. > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 21:17:12 -0700 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: Re: (klr650) 285 not 185 - -----Original Message----- From: Tony To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Date: Sunday, January 17, 1999 8:48 PM Subject: (klr650) 285 not 185 |Just read my posting, correction 285miles not 185. |Tony | Don't think we didn't do the math (g)... Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 20:45:01 PST From: "James Boyles" Subject: Re: (klr650) Mileage/Performance with a 140/150 Main jet????? I am in the market for after market exhaust, (stock has a chirp) also but the more I read the less I understand. I'm not into loud, I have to keep the neighbors happy. I've heard much good about about Super Trapp but whats with the repacking I read about recently. So Cobras junk and Big Gun is loud, what is Laser Produro? >From: "Kurt Simpson" >To: "Bruce H." , > , > , > >Subject: Re: (klr650) Mileage/Performance with a 140/150 Main jet????? >Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 08:37:24 -0700 >Reply-To: "Kurt Simpson" > >In case you are holding your breath...middle notch... >> >>Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 21:51:02 EDT >From: K650dsn@aol.com >Subject: Re: (klr650) Vroom, vroom > >Well, I have rode the KLR to work and then some, for a couple days now with >the jet kit. What a difference. Bike runs great, but I think I will pay the >price at the gas pump. For the record, I have the Dyno Jet 140 main jet, the >clip in the middle notch on the needle, the mixture screw turned out 2.25 >turns and the float set to spec. I have a K&N Filter and a Laser Produro >Exhaust. > >Gino > > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 00:40:37 EST From: WingRJ@aol.com Subject: (klr650) For Sale; KLR650 High Ya'll I have a 1990 KLR650 for sale. I'm asking $1500. I'm in the silicon valley, San Jose, Ca. If interested, Email me at wingrj@aol.com See Ya ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 22:24:23 +1000 From: Ted Palmer Subject: (klr650) KLR600 rear sprocket dish direction I've got a question for owners of 600s out there (all what is it, 2 of you?) about the the rear sprocket. I changed mine years ago for a locally fabricated sprocket that wasn't dished. The supplier (Chain Gang, Melbourne) claimed it doesn't matter and that nobody had ever complained. Maybe that's why they got bought out and the business moved to Queensland. Anyway, I know that the factory sprocket is dished, but I can't remember which way and the photos and diagrams are a bit ambiguous. I'm considering spacing the current sprocket which is otherwise ok (made of allegedly better steel, flame hardened teeth) or spot facing parts of it as necessary. If somebody has an old sprocket laying around it would be useful to know how much the dish is as well. Mister_T 'n' BigRed ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 08:29:05 -0500 From: Chalz Milliken Subject: (klr650) >>I have a 93 KLR with a K&N filter, jet kit, and a Cobra ISDE exhaust and it dynoed out at about 35HP. Has anybody else dynoed a similar setup? If so what kind of results did you get? I don't have a similar setup, but I am starting to wonder about this horse power measurement. I have a new A13 and it states right on the certificate of ownership, that it has 48HP. I was a little surprised to read that after all the Horsepower ratings I have seen in this newsgroup. 35 seems rather low to me. I wonder what gives? Chalz ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 07:09:02 -0700 From: "Pokluda, Gino F" Subject: RE: (klr650) KLX300R as a companion for my KLR650? >>I've not ridden one but my friend did. He said it was VERY quick and light especially in tight conditions. I'd be interested in comments from anyone that owns or has ridden one.<< The KLX300 would be a very good choice as a more dirt oriented dualsport as long as it was legalized. The Yamaha TTR250 may be even better. Rumor has it that the bike will come as a dirt only enduro, but will have all of the switch gear and electrical hookups in place to make it dual sport. It is the first dirt only motorcycle to come with electric start and battery. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 01:29:45 +1000 From: Ted Palmer Subject: Re: (klr650) Chalz Milliken wrote: [...] > horse power measurement. I have a new A13 and it states right on the > certificate of ownership, that it has 48HP. I was a little surprised to > read that after all the Horsepower ratings I have seen in this > newsgroup. 35 seems rather low to me. I wonder what gives? Lies, damn lies and dyno figures. The certificate probably lists the makers stated power at the crank. A 48bhp motor is quite likely to show about 35 at the dyno due to power losses in the transmission, tyre distortion on the rollers and so on. Besides, dyno figures don't mean much unless you know exactly the conditions the figure was measured. Simple things like ambient temperature and pressure make a difference along with other variables like fuel quality and so on. Dynos themselves need regular recalibration, like any sensitive measuring device. Two different dynos are just as likely to come up with two different figures for the same bike in the same conditions. Mister_T ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:51:10 -0500 From: duftler@us.ibm.com Subject: (klr650) (NKLR) KLX300R as a companion for my KLR650? Rick, I'm in agreement with you on this. I am looking to buy another bike this spring, and I was leaning towards the DR350. After going to the bike show this past weekend, and sitting on the KLX300, I'm pretty much set on buying it. Looks like a hell of a bike. - -Matt Duftler Tarrytown, NY BTW, have you priced out the conversion kit? >Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 12:04:40 EST >From: MOTOBEEM@aol.com >Subject: (klr650) KLX300R as a companion for my KLR650? > > I've noticed Gino and others referring to other bikes, DR350s, etc., to >compliment our great KLR650s. That set me thinking of what I'd buy if I were >to spend about what a new DR350 would cost. If it were to be another off road >bike I'd want it to be MUCH lighter, more maneuverable, better suspension, and >better brakes than my KLR or even my ex- DR350. > I think I would start with a KLX300R. A few highlights of this machine are: > 232 lb. dry weight > 43 mm, inverted, cartridge forks. 11" front and rear suspension. > Perimeter frame > Electrofusion-coated cylinder. Liquid cooled, DOHC 4 stroke. > Twin piston front caliper grabbing a 250 mm floating disc. Rear disc also. > Gear driven counterbalancer > 6 speed > 2.5 gal tank (would have to see Aceribis about increasing this) > Lights, side stand, and spark arrestor come standard. > To this I'd ad a Baja Design kit and a speedometer to make it street legal. > > I've not ridden one but my friend did. He said it was VERY quick and light >especially in tight conditions. I'd be interested in comments from anyone that >wns or has ridden one. > Rick Sanders ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 08:44:17 -0700 From: "Fred Hink" Subject: Re: (klr650) (NKLR) KLX300R as a companion for my KLR650? - -----Original Message----- From: duftler@us.ibm.com To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Date: Monday, January 18, 1999 12:54 AM Subject: (klr650) (NKLR) KLX300R as a companion for my KLR650? > >Rick, > >I'm in agreement with you on this. I am looking to buy another bike this >spring, and I was leaning towards the DR350. After going to the bike show >this past weekend, and sitting on the KLX300, I'm pretty much set on buying >it. Looks like a hell of a bike. > >-Matt Duftler >Tarrytown, NY > >BTW, have you priced out the conversion kit? Howdy, I have ridden a KLX300 that had the "Larry Roesler" treatment. It was one screamin' machine. Handled my big body great. For tight technical stuff I don't think you could beat it. The KLX is geared more for racing than the DR350. It fills a different nich and is great at what it does. The only problem with the Larry Roesler version is it's price tag is a little steep. around $8K 8<0 There are only a few dirtbikes that I can think of that have been around along time for a reason. The KLR650, XR600, TW200 & the DR350 to name a few. They are all great at what they were designed to do. Fred Hink ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Arrowhead Motorsports http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/index.html *NEW* 435-259-7356 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 08:50:18 -0700 From: "Fred Hink" Subject: Re: (klr650) - -----Original Message----- From: Chalz Milliken To: 'KLR650' Date: Sunday, January 17, 1999 11:47 PM Subject: (klr650) >>>I have a 93 KLR with a K&N filter, jet kit, and a Cobra ISDE exhaust >and it >dynoed out at about 35HP. Has anybody else dynoed a similar setup? If so >what kind of results did you get? > >I don't have a similar setup, but I am starting to wonder about this >horse power measurement. I have a new A13 and it states right on the >certificate of ownership, that it has 48HP. I was a little surprised to >read that after all the Horsepower ratings I have seen in this >newsgroup. 35 seems rather low to me. I wonder what gives? > >Chalz > > > I would hazard to guess that Kawasaki measures their horsepower at the crankshaft. There is some HP lost through all the drive train on your bike. Since most all the dynos in a bike shop can only measure HP at the rear wheel, this could be why there is such a difference in numbers. Fred ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 11:57:14 -0500 From: Stuart Heaslet Subject: Re: (klr650) Tire choices (was:(no subject)) At 01:13 PM 1/17/99 +0000, Tom Simpson wrote: >...but the 7,500 mile life expectancy of the rear Gripster (nominaly very good for a dualsport tire) >lead me to try the AM 21 Roadrunner, a heavy carcased cruiser/touring tire. >So far it is living up to its billing at a potential 15,000 mile tire on >the KLR and I dont think I gave up all that much in the offroad department, >either. Interesting. What's your opinion on how the AM21 would work on mud-slicked pavement, compared to the Gripster? Stuart Juno Beach, FL ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:42:32 -0700 From: "Tim Bernard" Subject: Re: (klr650) (NKLR) KLX300R as a companion for my KLR650? I have all 3 bikes and & happy with the performace of all. I ride the KLX 300 primarily as my trail bike. The trails we ride are from a high mtn single track to desert cow trails. The biggest complaint with the KLX is the twitchiness in a sand wash. In a drag race with an XR400 I can pull them about a length up to sixth and then they pull by me. Mods are a Yoshimira carbon fiber muffler & K&N air cleaner. The bike was dual sported when I bought it [brake light, mirror & bicycle horn] I added a rear rack we make & change tires K139 front & cheng-shin rear. True wt is 265 wet with fuel. The DRS350 is a 94. Stock rear shock was chucked and a DR shock was added. Front suspension still needs work. The DRS's have adequate suspension components that can be tuned. The one draw back to the DRS is about 4 lbs more than the KLX300. I have had the DRS on all the high mtn single track trails in Idaho also. The eh-cher-bis [Canadian version] tank is left on the bike all of the time and is kept full. This bike works well in the sand, cruises nice at 65, corners extremely well and is fun on 2 tracks. The DRS can also be kitted to 435 and lives. More if you want. Happy Trails - -----Original Message----- From: duftler@us.ibm.com To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Date: Monday, January 18, 1999 7:47 AM Subject: (klr650) (NKLR) KLX300R as a companion for my KLR650? > >Rick, > >I'm in agreement with you on this. I am looking to buy another bike this >spring, and I was leaning towards the DR350. After going to the bike show >this past weekend, and sitting on the KLX300, I'm pretty much set on buying >it. Looks like a hell of a bike. > >-Matt Duftler >Tarrytown, NY > >BTW, have you priced out the conversion kit? > >>Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 12:04:40 EST >>From: MOTOBEEM@aol.com >>Subject: (klr650) KLX300R as a companion for my KLR650? >> >> I've noticed Gino and others referring to other bikes, DR350s, etc., to >>compliment our great KLR650s. That set me thinking of what I'd buy if I >were >>to spend about what a new DR350 would cost. If it were to be another off >road >>bike I'd want it to be MUCH lighter, more maneuverable, better suspension, >and >>better brakes than my KLR or even my ex- DR350. >> I think I would start with a KLX300R. A few highlights of this machine >are: >> 232 lb. dry weight >> 43 mm, inverted, cartridge forks. 11" front and rear suspension. >> Perimeter frame >> Electrofusion-coated cylinder. Liquid cooled, DOHC 4 stroke. >> Twin piston front caliper grabbing a 250 mm floating disc. Rear disc >also. >> Gear driven counterbalancer >> 6 speed >> 2.5 gal tank (would have to see Aceribis about increasing this) >> Lights, side stand, and spark arrestor come standard. >> To this I'd ad a Baja Design kit and a speedometer to make it street >legal. >> >> I've not ridden one but my friend did. He said it was VERY quick and >light >>especially in tight conditions. I'd be interested in comments from anyone >that >>wns or has ridden one. >> Rick Sanders > > > ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V1 #470 ****************************