From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V2 #28 Reply-To: klr650 Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Thursday, February 11 1999 Volume 02 : Number 028 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 15:49:37 -0700 From: "Tim Bernard" Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR Talking to myself...NKLR DR350SE Norman Kouba E-mail Address(es): njkouba@ix.netcom.com Norman is known for his DR smarts. Drop him a line. He is in the middle of 5 435 upgrades rigt now. - -----Original Message----- From: Vikram Banerjee To: Kurt Simpson ; KLR650-List Date: Sunday, February 07, 1999 7:41 PM Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR Talking to myself...NKLR DR350SE >Sorry for beating a dead horse, but I posted a msg regarding the benefits of >a DR350 vs and XR400 for dirt oriented dual sport riding. One of the >reasons I was not looking favorably on the DR350 was the extensive >suspension mods everyone seemed to be doing to them. After reading this >post I looked back at all the info I had on the DR350 and noticed it was >fort 90-93 models. Was there a big change in later models? If so what were >the changes? > >Cheers, > >Vik (always looking for the perfect dualsport!) > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Kurt Simpson >To: KLR650-List >Date: Sunday, February 07, 1999 10:26 AM >Subject: (klr650) Talking to myself...NKLR DR350SE > > >>More important my SO wonders why not buy a clean used one...like a '95 for >>$2,500. I said because they are essentially a different bike after the >>cartridge fork change and more adjustable rear shock. And, I say, when you >look >>at the older models people are putting $1,000-$1,500 to fork and shock >work. >> >>What year did they make the change? I'm guessing '97. Is the new suspension >so >>much of an improvement that most people are not going to have to rework it? >So, >>in other words, how important is it to hold out for a later model? > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 17:43:33 -0000 From: "Eric Jasniewicz" Subject: (klr650) Kawi saddlebag supports part# & price from my local dealer K99994 - 498 $77.99 pair ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 17:53:02 -0000 From: "Eric Jasniewicz" Subject: (klr650) Location of center of gravity Does this ring a bell with anyone...I remember Honda mounting gas tank on the bottom of one of their GP roadracing bikes in the early '80s. Bike handled like crap. They then found an error in their calculations. A bike does not pivot about the contact spot (ground), the pivot point is higher. The exact point is determined by different factors, none of which I know. Sorry I can't be of more help. Engineer folks, any comments? I could be hallucinating on this one. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 16:20:51 -0700 From: "Tim Bernard" Subject: Re: (klr650) Kawasaki Side protectors... Let's see $145 divided by 2 = If you want 1/2 buy half - -----Original Message----- From: Kurt Simpson To: KLR List Date: Friday, December 11, 1998 9:51 AM Subject: (klr650) Kawasaki Side protectors... > >-----Original Message----- >From: AKLR650@aol.com >To: ajax@xmission.com >Date: Thursday, December 10, 1998 3:29 PM >Subject: KLR - Kurt its ericjazz > > >>Hey Kurt, >> >>I'm moving around a bit, haven't been keeping up with the list. >> >>One piece of information I obtained: >> >>The Kawasaki saddlebag supports are in the catalog, my dealer had them for >>$78. There is a small picture in the Kawa Acces. supplement (?). Doesn't >>cover as much area as Tim Bernards (?), but less than half the price. >> >>Later... >>Eric J >> > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 18:40:31 -0500 From: "Brian Schoonveld" Subject: (klr650) getting smooth Now have about 250 miles on my A13, and am definitely noticing the bike getting smoother. I've seen other posts that this is normal of course........I was wondering though, what changes actually occur that makes this happen? Will it continue (obviously only to a point)? Hopefully the seat will get softer!! Brian Schoonveld Indianapolis IN ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 19:21:47 -0500 From: "WDSRC" Subject: (klr650) plastic stuff i know this was just done, but at the time i wasn't paying attention (OOPS!)but can someone hip me to where I can get that liguid plastic stuff you can dip your tools into to make a plastic handle on them? Robert ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 18:30:18 -0600 From: Alan Henderson Subject: Re: (klr650) getting smooth At 06:40 PM 2/10/99 -0500, you wrote: >Now have about 250 miles on my A13, and am definitely noticing the bike >getting smoother. I've seen other posts that this is normal of >course........I was wondering though, what changes actually occur that makes >this happen? Will it continue (obviously only to a point)? Hopefully the >seat will get softer!! > >Brian Schoonveld >Indianapolis IN > > > The seat doesn't get any softer but your butt gets tougher. Sort of like getting used to a bicycle seat. Alan Henderson, Iowa A13 TEMP 62 deg F 30mile ride after work! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 18:11:41 -0600 From: "Paul A. Yelk" Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR ? Boyd/Blair (Doug) wrote: > > Here's > one; > What does K L R stand > for? > Doug Boyd > Vancouver > A 12 Kawasaki - Love to Ride (just a guess!) Paul '98 KLR650 Montgomery AL ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 19:46:44 -0500 From: "Brian Schoonveld" Subject: (klr650) ......The first run of Big Gun exhausts for the klr are ready I think I would be interested in their product, basing my decision on the technical info they have on their web site as to the physics of why their product's performance is state -of-the-art. I emailed them awhile back, and asked 2 things: 1) What is the cost? - it is the same as the other Kawasaki one they already made - I think around $329 2) How does the noise level compare to stock? - no answer Does anyone have any info on this noise issue? What is the most quiet "performance" exhaust system available for the KLR? Here is the link for the info on Big Gun designs: http://www.biggunexhaust.com/about.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 21:34:23 EST From: NILSTIAR@aol.com Subject: (klr650) Slipping new grips on. howdy, Which of you kind learned gentlemen can tell me the proper way to slip a new grip onto the handlebar? there's got to be an easier way! In an analogous situation in my personal life I would buy the grip dinner and a movie in order to speed the process, but methinks this is not applicable to this task. ciao, Steve 98 RXCe 620 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:42:18 -0700 From: "Skip Faulkner" Subject: Re: (klr650) How to Carry Extra Fuel? >>>I need to figure out how to carry a couple of gallons of fuel on the KLR. >Since it's only for a couple of trip legs this summer,< > > >Some one was working on a fuel cell that fit where the skid plate would be. >Anyone remember who? > >Gino > A lot of the Paris-Dakar bikes have been using skidplates with fuel and water cells welded to each side of the plate. Would be easy to add on. The best is to incorporate a fuel cell under the side panel like the PD F650 and KTM PD`s. Gravity fed with no pumps. Skip ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:50:53 -0700 From: "Skip Faulkner" Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR Side Protector/Support >I just picked up Kawasaki part # K99994-498 which is completely different than >Kawasaki's initial photo. First it is for the right side only with no >matching left side bracket offered. Second it is a single fairly heavy metal >bracket that keeps the saddle bag off the exhaust but still allows it to rub >on the plastic side plate. This is not a well thought out part and I don't >think offers any competion for Tim Bernard's excellent product. Price is >$40.95 but if it doesn't work well cheap doesn't mean much. >Kurt Grife-who is on his way to Baja tomorrow for 10 days > Kurt G. I too received my rack today, haven`t picked it up yet. Dealer said that they weren`t told by Kawasaki that the quoted price was for only one side. The left side will be arriving Friday. I called Kawasaki myself and was apologized to for the mix up and was told my left rack would arrive as soon as possible. Skip ( why am I not surprised ) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:59:20 -0700 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: Re: (klr650) Slipping new grips on. - -----Original Message----- From: NILSTIAR@aol.com To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Date: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 7:54 PM Subject: (klr650) Slipping new grips on. | |howdy, | |Which of you kind learned gentlemen can tell me the proper way to slip a new |grip onto the handlebar? there's got to be an easier way! Hair Spray...or spray paint...both work...take your pick... Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 22:52:52 EST From: K650dsn@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) Slipping new grips on. In a message dated 2/10/99 7:55:31 PM Mountain Standard Time, NILSTIAR@aol.com writes: << Which of you kind learned gentlemen can tell me the proper way to slip a new grip onto the handlebar? there's got to be an easier way! >> I clean the bar and then give the inside of the grip a good shot of hair spray. You can use 90% rubbing alcohol also. Gino ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 23:07:29 EST From: K650dsn@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) How to Carry Extra Fuel? In a message dated 2/10/99 8:53:14 PM Mountain Standard Time, msfaul@digisys.net writes: << A lot of the Paris-Dakar bikes have been using skidplates with fuel and water cells welded to each side of the plate >> I have always thought that fuel tanks that replace side panels would be a great way to carry extra fuel. Full size Aerostitch tank panniers were designed to carry a gallon can of fuel on each side of the tank. Get one gallon cans, weld petcocks onto them, make cut outs in the panniers to accomodate the petcock and fuel line and you are set. Gino ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 10:20:03 -0800 From: "e. rhoads" Subject: Re: (klr650) Slipping new grips on. - ----- > >howdy, > >Which of you kind learned gentlemen can tell me the proper way to slip a new >grip onto the handlebar? there's got to be an easier way! > >In an analogous situation in my personal life I would buy the grip dinner and >a movie in order to speed the process, but methinks this is not applicable to >this task. > >ciao, >Steve >98 RXCe 620 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well....no comment on the personally analogous, whatever there might be. I used ordinary rubbing alchohol. Gave the grip a good belt of the stuff and crammed it on. Worked great. The alchohol evaporates pretty fast, so you'll get a good grip soon enough. eric ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 22:10:42 -0700 From: "Skip Faulkner" Subject: Re: (klr650) How to Carry Extra Fuel? ><< A lot of the Paris-Dakar bikes have been using skidplates with fuel and > water cells welded to each side of the plate >>......... > > I have always thought that fuel tanks that replace side panels would be a >great way to carry extra fuel. > >Full size Aerostitch tank panniers were designed to carry a gallon can of fuel >on each side of the tank. Get one gallon cans, weld petcocks onto them, make >cut outs in the panniers to accomodate the petcock and fuel line and you are >set. > >Gino > Gino, Excellent idea with a lot of possibilities. Please don`t suggest things like this for awhile, I`ve too many projects going as it is, and the good ideas are just to hard to pass up. Skip (who`s bike will never be whole again ) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 00:54:36 EST From: Cloudhid@aol.com Subject: (klr650) A Little Gun Fun Cameron I thought you said the Big Gun was loud? I just ran it for 15 minutes and I still have eardrums!!! I haven't installed the spark arrestor or the quiet core. But it's months until the July 4 block party, so I think I'll just terrorize my neighbors for a while. Don't worry. I'll be sure to let them all know that I don't represent the majority of responsible enthusiasts.... Redondo Ron - gunnin' through town ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 07:30:25 -0500 From: Todd Emsley Subject: Re: (klr650) A Little Gun Fun To Anyone with the new Big Gun..... How much $$$$$$ for it. How is the fit? How long does it take to get it? Todd A11 waiting for the 'gun ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 07:26:14 -0500 From: Mike Ratta Subject: RE: (klr650) ......The first run of Big Gun exhausts for the klr are ready I also plan on buying the big gun exhaust for my KLX as well as a keihin FCR carb from stroker. If anyone has any info on noise levels compared to stock or to an average supertrapp, I'd also be very interested. Is the spark arrestor and quiet core on the big gun included in the price or is it extra? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 07:32:20 -0500 From: Mike Ratta Subject: (klr650) Arai DS cheaper source Check out motorcycle accessory warehouse. You can get a better deal than that from there. http://www.accwhse.com/ - -----Original Message----- From: Stuart Heaslet [mailto:stuart@heaslet.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 2:27 PM To: Pokluda, Gino F; KLR650 List Subject: RE: (klr650) Arai Dual-Sport opinions? At 06:52 AM 2/10/99 -0700, Pokluda, Gino F wrote: >I had an Arai Dual Sport for about 3 years, before I crash tested it last >spring. Great helmet. Too bad they don't make it anymore. Gino, I talked with Redline M/C in North Palm Beach, Florida and they said that one of their distributors confirmed Arai D/S helmets were in stock. The quote was for US$429. Stuart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 08:40:55 EST From: Rcklr@aol.com Subject: Fwd: (klr650) Slipping new grips on. This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --part0_918740455_boundary Content-ID: <0_918740455@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII In a message dated 2/10/99 8:55:31 PM Central Standard Time, NILSTIAR@aol.com writes: << Which of you kind learned gentlemen can tell me the proper way to slip a new grip onto the handlebar? there's got to be an easier way! >> I agree with those who have responded that hair spray works well, look for the "extra hold" variety as it sets up stickier. I just spray a liberal amount into the grip, (we're talking soaked here) and then slide it on and position it where I want it. You'll have a little time to try different positions, but then you will want to let it set over night before riding. By the way, if you have an air compressor, remember that grip removale and installation can be done using a lot of air. I don't have one any more, so I use a razor to remove old grips.... Just an FYI. MN Ron (Ice storms today, in the 40's this weekend, gotta love it here!!) - --part0_918740455_boundary Content-ID: <0_918740455@inet_out.mail.aol.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-ya04.mx.aol.com (rly-ya04.mail.aol.com [172.18.144.196]) by air-ya01.mail.aol.com (v56.26) with SMTP; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 21:55:31 -0500 Received: from lists.xmission.com ([198.60.22.7]) by rly-ya04.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id VAA04471; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 21:55:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from domo by lists.xmission.com with local (Exim 2.05 #1) id 10AmBH-00049Q-00 for klr650-goout@lists.xmission.com; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 19:48:43 -0700 Received: from [198.81.17.4] (helo=imo14.mx.aol.com) by lists.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 10AmBE-00048n-00 for klr650@lists.xmission.com; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 19:48:41 -0700 Received: from NILSTIAR@aol.com by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv18.1) id XMWGa05514 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 21:34:23 +1900 (EST) From: NILSTIAR@aol.com Message-ID: <1b6a3b11.36c241af@aol.com> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 21:34:23 EST To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Subject: (klr650) Slipping new grips on. X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: NILSTIAR@aol.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit howdy, Which of you kind learned gentlemen can tell me the proper way to slip a new grip onto the handlebar? there's got to be an easier way! In an analogous situation in my personal life I would buy the grip dinner and a movie in order to speed the process, but methinks this is not applicable to this task. ciao, Steve 98 RXCe 620 - --part0_918740455_boundary-- ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V2 #28 ***************************