From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V2 #88 Reply-To: klr650 Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Thursday, March 4 1999 Volume 02 : Number 088 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 11:54:58 -0700 From: Bogdan Swider Subject: RE: (klr650) Cameron's Crash NKLR Great advice by the Kurtmeister. I'll add that you should shop around for physical therapists; they're not all the same. I had one that had me on the road to infirmity till I got better advice. Bogdan > don't short change on the physical therapy...the shoulder is a bad place > to get > injured... > > Peace to you, > > Kurt > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 14:47:54 EST From: Cloudhid@aol.com Subject: (klr650) stock vs aftermarket exhuast On 3/4/99, ajax@xmission.com writes: snip re: stock vs aftermarket exhuast >>How much lighter is the aftermarket? > >It feels like a gazillion pounds...but is probably about 6-8 lbs...Ron? Kurt, my klr stock muff and head pipe weigh in at 11 LB and 2 LB-11 oz, (13 LB-11 oz total). The BigGun compares at 4 LB-7 oz and 2 LB-7 oz, (6 LB-14 oz total), chopping almost 7 LB off the stock setup. I won't know how much if any of the additional power comes from the replacement head pipe until I can get it on a dyno. I'll put the stock head pipe back on and see if there's any SOP difference. The matched set looks great. But if it turns out there isn't any performance gain with the head pipe, the muff does slip over the stock head pipe and you'll save $120 and still have a greater volume of exhaust flow than any option short of running no muffler. The fit is excellent. Just like the stock muff it replaces, two bolts secure it to the subframe. The metal badge is riveted on and will not burn off. There's been no detectable loss of fiberglass after 500 miles of testing. The nickel plated pipe is showing a deep purple heat discoloration from the head to about a foot back. Mothers will restore it to new if this bothers you. I'll have a full test report on the klr, and maybe the dr this month. For those of you who are more in touch with your feminine side, the quiet core is coming out of R&D, so I'll be testing that soon. Maybe we listers can come up with some standardized tests for all of the exhaust systems so we'll have empiric stats to compare? For orders or questions about Big Gun Exhaust, call Mike Young, (909) 948-7029 Redondo Ron (with testosterone to spare) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 15:00:36 -0500 From: Cameron Cole Subject: RE: (klr650) Cameron's Crash NKLR Fortunately, I write medical software for Anesthesiologists, Podiatrists, General Practitioners, Ortho Surgeons, Dermatologists, and a host of other medical specialties. I get to go around and meet the Doctors as well. I almost always get comp'd by the best. Thanks for the advice, C. > -----Original Message----- > From: Bogdan Swider [mailto:BSwider@ColoradoCollege.edu] > Sent: Thursday, March 04, 1999 1:55 PM > To: 'Kurt Simpson'; KLR650-List > Subject: RE: (klr650) Cameron's Crash NKLR > > > Great advice by the Kurtmeister. I'll add that you should > shop around for > physical therapists; they're not all the same. I had one that > had me on > the road to infirmity till I got better advice. Bogdan > > don't short change on the physical therapy...the shoulder > is a bad place > > to get > > injured... > > > > Peace to you, > > > > Kurt > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 12:02:09 -0800 From: "Robert Morgan" Subject: Re: (klr650) List growth... Kurt after the last flameout you stated "the jury was still out" on SEX as topic. I was just curious if the jury was in yet. Morgan I love the smell of rhubarb in the morning. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 13:14:05 -0700 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: Re: (klr650) List growth...NKLR >Kurt after the last flameout you stated "the jury was still out" on SEX as >topic. I was just curious if the jury was in yet. >Morgan >I love the smell of rhubarb in the morning. > > See the week's Time magazine.... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 15:38:32 EST From: VFR754@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) Cameron's Crash NKLR Cameron, Congrats on surviving the crash, and not getting all road burned up!.Just think of all the skin grafting and head damage you saved by wearing protective gear! I had a crash in 88' where a driver came from the opposite direction and slid over into my lane coming into a corner; ran me off the road on my 900 SuperSport, and my helmet was ground down pretty badly, but it saved me from being spaghetti on the road! Broke my ribs and collar bone, but that stuff healed fairly quickly. Glad to hear your mending, and still coherent. I think the next time I'm tailgated, after hearing your story, I'm just gonna pull over and let the impatient ones pass me and the Moose by! I usually slow down more just to irritate them :), but now I think that may be taking a chance of a rear-end collision like you had. Your story makes it worth all the ribbing I take from other riders about wearing my riding gear even on 100 degree days. They're in shorts, t-shirts, and shades. I'm in a one-piece Cordura nylon riding suit with armour over my clothes and a full-face helmet, sweating like crazy; but the idea of little or no rad rash in case of an accident makes the sweating worth it to me personally. I still remember vividly how it feels (road rash/broken bones/bruises), even though it was 10 1/2 years ago! Wearing that stuff saved you from a lotta pain on top of what you already have. Be grateful! Bill Swindle A12 "Moose" Montgomery, IL. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 13:27:13 -0700 From: "Tim Bernard" Subject: Re: (klr650) Tim's Racks... SOOOO IT IS GENNTLY THAT YOU ARE TRYING. - -----Original Message----- From: Kurt Simpson To: Jeffrey Doyle Cc: klr650@lists.xmission.com Date: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 5:13 PM Subject: Re: (klr650) Tim's Racks... >>If the new rack/backrest is a bolt on replacement for the existing rack, >>makes it more roomy and comfortable for passengers, has storage for the >>tool pack, and is reasonably priced then I think it certainly should be >>in the DSN. > >It is not a replacement...it is in addition...it uses quick-release clips and can be >on/off in seconds..pretty nifty...I'm gently trying to talk Tim into making it with >the same sexy black "aircraft" aluminum that the Top of the Line Rack uses...adds a >certain cachet... > >Kurt > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 14:29:23 -0700 From: "Pokluda, Gino F" Subject: (klr650) On the way Just thought I'd let you all know that the March/April issue of DSN was mailed today. Gino ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 09:07:23 EST+10 From: evesterb@ilanet.slnsw.gov.au Subject: (klr650) Re: stuffup oops... sorry everyone. (embarrassed? me?) > From: "Vik Banerjee" > To: > Subject: Re: > Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 08:31:57 -0700 > sending this to the list will not do anything....you have to send it to the > list server. > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 18:06:16 -0500 From: "Steamroller" Subject: Re: (klr650) List growth... Can I ask a question? Now I don't want to start another flame war, if you ever had any, but I've been elsewhere and have been *burned* a time or three, but, I'm new here and a bit ignorant. So, please, respond "off-list" if necessary. What was the *wilderness* topic about? Thanks, NY Pete - -----Original Message----- From: Bogdan Swider To: 'Kurt Simpson' ; KLR650-List Date: Thursday, March 04, 1999 2:12 PM Subject: RE: (klr650) List growth... How'd we do after one of our oil arguments; perhaps people were too sleepy to unsubscribe. Bogdan > 361 members until the wilderness topic hit...we went down to 338 and now > we're back to 357....I > think ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 18:27:31 -0500 From: Bill Haycock Subject: (klr650) Re: link Pat, I made up a separate web page for your software - take a look at the Dual Sport Home page as well as the KLR specific page - there is a link to a web page explaining the software then directing you to the ironjungle page for downloading. Bill To the KLR LIST - take a look at two neat pieces of software that work with the KLR. Bill PAT_HENSLEY@HP-USA-om32.om.hp.com wrote: > Bill: > > Any chance of linking www.ironjungle.com to the KLR link page (or wherever). > It would appear from all the comments I have been getting that my KLR ShimCalc > and GearCalc software is a big hit. > > Thanks for doing such a great job with the KLR page. > > Pat ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 18:40:08 -0500 From: "Steamroller" Subject: (klr650) KLR shifters, breaking Hey there everyone. Today I picked up a new shifter for my 96 KLR 650, having broken the original(?) at the weld. The parts guy said this was a first on him, yet when surfing some Thumper sites, I see mention of replacement shifters to replace the weak, welded original. So what's the scoop? Am I going to break this again? I admit my riding may be a bit rough, but I never broke one before, not even on my old XT, which I beat the snot out of. Has this happened to any of you? If so, what was your fix? Thanks, NY Pete ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 19:26:10 -0500 From: "Rob Tayloe" Subject: Re: (dr350) RE: (klr650) Spring industry announcements... - -----Original Message----- From: Pokluda, Gino F > >I'll give you a hint that one huge announcement is from Yamaha and of course >the other is from BMW, heh, heh, heh. > With BMW's win in the Dakar race, I'd reckon that they will be coming out with a "Dakar" version of the F650. Too bad Honda isn't bring their Varadero (sp?). One of the magizines had a nice write up on the Cagiva Gran Canyon recently. The Gran Canyon uses a 900 cc Ducati 2-valve motor and has evolved from the Elefant. I've got an '87 Cagiva E-650 Elefant that looks just right next to my '88 KLR650. The KLR is blue and white with green accents and the Elefant is blue and white with red accents. Ride Safely, Rob Tayloe Columbus, Ohio ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 18:31:08 -0600 (CST) From: Tom Clay Subject: Re: (klr650) Gas Tank Size At 17:19 -0000 4/3/99, Erik Schelzig wrote: >Hi there. I'm new to the list, so fogive my ignorance. I'm looking to >buy a large bore dual sport and have pretty much decided that the price >and performance of the KLR650 looks about right for me (now if I could >just raise the money . . .) In any case, getting a used one would be >nice, but according to Chris Scott's adventure motorbiking book the gas >tanks have been too small and the water cooler pump perilously exposed to >the elements. I recognize that the 99 KLR has a huge tank (6.1 gallons), >so it seems one problem has been rectified. How long has the tank been >this big, and does anyone have any thougts on the water cooled engine vs >the air cooled varieties employed by the competitors? Thanks in advance, > >Erik Erik You won't find a better bike for the money, guaranteed. As Kurt mentioned, the gas tank has been at 6.1 gal since 1987. Most of the things that are "wrong" with it can be fixed relatively cheaply. For example, the too-exposed water pump can be better protected by an aftermarket bash plate such as the one made by Moose [about $US70, I think - check with Fred]. Similarly, you can add soft luggage, hard luggage, upgraded suspension and brakes, etc. But, the biggest advantage of the KLR is the availability of this mailing list. The best solution to any technical problem is never more than an e-mail away, and it's free. Every nut and bolt on this bike has beem examined and thoroughly discussed over the past year, and you can search the list archives 'til your heart's content. KLRs have been taken to hell and back and have a well-deserved reputation for reliability. I ride mine mostly on long highway trips at 70mph+ and can vouch for it's ability as a long-haul bike, if that's what you're interested in. Many guys on this list have lots of off-road experience on the bike and can advise you better in that area. good luck Tom Clay Winnipeg MB ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 19:36:09 -0500 From: "Rob Tayloe" Subject: Re: (klr650) Spring industry announcements... - -----Original Message----- From: Al Silberstein >I heard a rumor about a new dual-sport from Harley Davidson-1340 cc springer softail, >lots of chrome, floorboards, fat-bob tank, pull-back handlebars and knobby tires. >Maybe it wasnt a rumor, maybe it was a nightmare. Baba Al > Back in the early '70s, when HD owned Aermacchi, they had a Sprint 350 dual sport bike. A fellow that I used to ride one. I always thought that it was a neat bike. Also a few years ago in one of the HD mags, a fellow took an 883 Sportster engine and put it in a custom frame with off road suspension. It looked like a neat dual sport bike. Frankly I was suprised that HD didn't make a production version to go after a market segment that they have abandoned. Of course there are those rumors about HD buying KTM.... Ride Safely, Rob Tayloe Columbus, Ohio ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 19:40:49 -0500 From: "Rob Tayloe" Subject: Re: (klr650) SuperTrapp IDS - -----Original Message----- From: Christopher J Beasley >The only thing that sucks about the supertrapp is that they use non-metric >fasteners. I just discovered this yesterday. After trying every metric thread guage unsuccessfully, on a whim, I tried the SAE ('merican) thread guage. Sure enough, the screws holding the discs to the rear of the muffler are 10-24 threads. At least it was pretty easy to find stainless hex cap screws that were 10-24 x 1.5 inches. And they were much cheaper than the $12 box of 6 replacement screws from SuperTrap. Ride Safely, Rob Tayloe Columbus, Ohio ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 19:52:33 -0500 From: "Rob Tayloe" Subject: Re: (klr650) Spring industry announcements... - -----Original Message----- From: Rob Tayloe > >>I heard a rumor about a new dual-sport from Harley Davidson-1340 cc springer softail, >>lots of chrome, floorboards, fat-bob tank, pull-back handlebars and knobby tires. >>Maybe it wasnt a rumor, maybe it was a nightmare. Baba Al >> >Back in the early '70s, when HD owned Aermacchi, they had a Sprint 350 dual sport >bike. A fellow that I used to ride with had one. I always thought that it was a neat bike. ^^^ ^^^ Sigh, I must be getting tired. Ride Safely, Rob Tayloe Columbus, Ohio ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 20:07:25 -0500 From: "Stephen Rivett" Subject: (klr650) Fuel System Does the KLR650 rely on gravity to deliver it's fuel or does it have a fuel pump. If so, what is the maximum height it can draw the fuel? ie. Six inches below carb... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 18:35:15 From: Guy Cheney Subject: (klr650) NKLR Leather Pants Hey All, The recent experience of our two wheelin' colleague has reawakened in me the desire to buy leather pants so as not to add to my collection of road rash scars. Does anybody have any experience with Joe Rocket Hustler overpants? Any other recommendations? I wouldn't dream of riding without my leather jacket, I guess it's time to cover my ass literally and figuratively. Tahnks, Guy Cheney ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 21:24:41 -0500 From: "bob kaub" Subject: (klr650) Shim Calc This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE6685.6A9CD860 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've downloaded this program to two different computers and NEITHER will = run it. Anybody got any ideas. I keep getting a message something like = "not a valid program group" or something like that. Sure would like to use it. Thanks. - ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE6685.6A9CD860 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I've downloaded this program to two = different=20 computers and NEITHER will run it.  Anybody got any ideas.  I = keep=20 getting a message something like "not a valid program = group"  or=20 something like that.
Sure would like to use it. =20 Thanks.
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