From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V2 #89 Reply-To: klr650 Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Friday, March 5 1999 Volume 02 : Number 089 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 21:28:40 -0500 From: "bob kaub" Subject: (klr650) Front Brake Line This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE6685.F8CB2920 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What's the best choice Russell or Fastline? We can order direct from = Russell @ roughly $50.00. Thanks. - ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE6685.F8CB2920 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

What's the best choice Russell or=20 Fastline? We can order direct from Russell @ roughly $50.00. = Thanks.

- ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE6685.F8CB2920-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 21:32:57 +0000 From: Jeffrey Doyle Subject: Re: (klr650) Spring industry announcements... Rob Tayloe wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > From: Al Silberstein > > >I heard a rumor about a new dual-sport from Harley Davidson-1340 cc springer softail, > >lots of chrome, floorboards, fat-bob tank, pull-back handlebars and knobby tires. > >Maybe it wasnt a rumor, maybe it was a nightmare. Baba Al > > > Back in the early '70s, when HD owned Aermacchi, they had a Sprint 350 dual sport > bike. A fellow that I used to ride one. I always thought that it was a neat bike. > > Also a few years ago in one of the HD mags, a fellow took an > 883 Sportster engine and put it in a custom frame with off road > suspension. It looked like a neat dual sport bike. Frankly I was suprised > that HD didn't make a production version to go after a market > segment that they have abandoned. > > Of course there are those rumors about HD buying KTM.... > > Ride Safely, > Rob Tayloe > Columbus, Ohio Rob, I don't think the Harley - KTM deal went through. Unless things have change recently it was my belief that KTM wanted to stay on their own. Ride on, Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 21:51:36 -0500 From: "Rob Tayloe" Subject: Re: (klr650) Front Brake Line This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BE6689.2CEAF160 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----Original Message----- From: bob kaub =20 =20 What's the best choice Russell or Fastline? We can order direct = from Russell @ roughly $50.00. Thanks. =20 I just purchased a braided stainless brake line for the front brake on my 88 KLR650. Initially I got a Russel, but returned it as there was no plastic coating on the braided stainless. The braided stainless is very abrasive. The Fastline was purchased for same price (from local MC dealer) and had a plastic coating. =20 Ride Safely, Rob Tayloe Columbus, Ohio - ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BE6689.2CEAF160 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 bob kaub <kaub@epix.net>

What's = the best=20 choice Russell or Fastline? We can order direct from Russell @ = roughly=20 $50.00. Thanks.

I just purchased a braided stainless brake line for the front=20 brake

on my 88 KLR650. Initially I got a Russel, but returned = it=20 as

there was no = plastic coating on=20 the braided stainless. The braided

stainless is very = abrasive. =20 The Fastline was purchased for same

price (from local = MC dealer) and=20 had a plastic coating.

Ride = Safely,

Rob Tayloe=20 <nukemoto@earthlink.net>

Columbus, = Ohio

- ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BE6689.2CEAF160-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 19:59:48 -0700 From: "joel newtson" Subject: (klr650) Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 18:59:15 PST I musta missed something -- after ass-ending the KLR, the cager actually called the rider stupid?!?!?!? Maybe we all ought to visit said cager some night and communicate our disappointment with both his driving habits and his choice of words. Just kidding, of course . . . ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 19:41:49 -0800 From: Jean Philippe Bagel Subject: (klr650) I'm gonna change my brakes pads... Hi all, The bike has close to 5000 miles and the brakes are slow becomming less effective. The rear rotor even seems to have "scratches". Breaking also produces a nasty vibration when it's raining... I called the dealer and he says he carries 2 sort of pads. Of course I can't remember the 2 now... Something like $27 for a pair. So, since I am no mechanic, what do I have to look for doing it? I've got the manuals from Fred. They seem p[etty clear. I tried to unscrew one of the screw, and boy is it tight... I could not get it to move... - -JP ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Mar 99 20:08:11 PST From: "alyef@iname.com" Subject: Re: (klr650) Cameron's Crash NKLR Cameron, My understanding is that the settlement amount is tied directly to the = amount of medical expenses. So, take Kurts advice. Alex (who is not a lawyer) - ---------- > Cameron, sorry to hear about your crash...I bet you've just about had = it with > KLR's as I think > this is your third in about a year isn't it? I hope you mend well. FWIW= , I > used to ride a road > bicycle with great enthusiasm (a nice way of saying I was addicted)...i= n > April, 1995 I got > clipped from behind by a pickup pulling a trailer...he passed me with = 6" to > spare (rednecks in > Utah like to do that) and I said, "whew that was close" then I saw he = was > pulling a trailer and > I knew I was done (parked car on my right)...still like you, witnesses = said I > almost made > it....long story short the worst of my hurts was my psyche (not recover= ed, I > can ride a > motorcycle on the road but I've never road biked again)..., a broken > collarbone and a totaled > bike. > > I don't believe in litigation but this guy really irritated me when he = had his > insurance agent > hardball me by saying he thought it was my fault. A year later they set= tled > for $25,000 plus > medical plus repair of the bike...My collarbone mended with a typical = big > lump...my shoulder is > still not the same but I'm old enough now that it is just added to the = things > that don't work > like they used to...the physical therapy took a lot of time and a fair = amount > of pain. My > advice, don't sign anything, get a lawyer, don't talk to his insurance = agent > (hoping he has > one)...don't short change on the physical therapy...the shoulder is a = bad > place to get > injured... > > Peace to you, > > Kurt > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 00:20:25 -0500 From: "J.Taylor" Subject: (klr650) Chain clarification I am just clarifying this with others who may be less sleep deprived than myself. The article on the webpage by Eldon Carl re: chain tension seems to indicate the bike needs between 50-55 mm of play with the back wheel completely off the ground? I currently have that but I also have luggage attached. Does the add'l weight of luggage change the setting range? Just thought I'd try a different approach from Jake Jakeman's description to see what was similar/different. Any thoughts on Eldon's range on a bike with luggage? Jake, the other, more tired Jake ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 22:11:44 From: Guy Cheney Subject: (klr650) Chain, again! I wanted to piggy back on Jake's question about chain tension. What about chain tension with the lowering links installed? >I am just clarifying this with others who may be less sleep deprived >than myself. The article on the webpage by Eldon Carl re: chain tension >seems to indicate the bike needs between 50-55 mm of play with the back >wheel completely off the ground? I currently have that but I also have >luggage attached. Does the add'l weight of luggage change the setting >range? Just thought I'd try a different approach from Jake Jakeman's >description to see what was similar/different. Any thoughts on Eldon's >range on a bike with luggage? > >Jake, the other, more tired Jake > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 22:24:01 -0700 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: Re: (klr650) Fuel System >Does the KLR650 rely on gravity to deliver it's fuel or does it have a fuel >pump. If so, what is the maximum height it can draw the fuel? ie. Six >inches below carb... If you subscribe to DSN you may have the anser on your doorstep within a day or two...Redondo has put together the mother of all carb articles and it will eventually appear on the web...Skip Faulker reported that it does have a pump "of sorts" Skip is down with the flu otherwise I'm sure he would jump in..you can check his report on the web archives at: www.listquest.com Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 22:25:10 -0700 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: (klr650) Tach troubleshooting... Does anyone have a clue as to how to approach Sarah's non-functioning tach? How does the thing work so that one can troubleshoot it? Fred? Thanks, Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 23:19:45 +0000 From: Tom Simpson Subject: Re: (klr650) I'm gonna change my brakes pads... At 07:41 PM 3/4/99 -0800, Jean Philippe Bagel wrote: >Hi all, > >The bike has close to 5000 miles and the brakes are slow becomming less >effective. The rear rotor even seems to have "scratches". Breaking also >produces a nasty vibration when it's raining... > >I called the dealer and he says he carries 2 sort of pads. Of course I can't >remember the 2 now... Something like $27 for a pair. Most dealers stock the EBC pads 'cause they are cheap and (entirely too) many riders want nothing but the cheapest. The EBCs do work, but I had better luck with the Dunlopad (DP) brakes. Braking Systems pads were no better and didnt last as long as either of the above. >So, since I am no mechanic, what do I have to look for doing it? I've got >the manuals from Fred. They seem p[etty clear. I tried to unscrew one of the >screw, and boy is it tight... I could not get it to move... Its gonna be a two-handed strain-and-grunt proposition the first time. Kawa puts that stuff on *tight*. Once you get past that hurdle, its about as straightforeward as the book would indicate. - -Tom '96 KLR 650 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 23:25:44 +0000 From: Tom Simpson Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR shifters, breaking At 06:40 PM 3/4/99 -0500, Steamroller wrote: >Hey there everyone. >Today I picked up a new shifter for my 96 KLR 650, having broken the >original(?) at the weld. The parts guy said this was a first on him, yet >when surfing some Thumper sites, I see mention of replacement shifters to >replace the weak, welded original. >So what's the scoop? Am I going to break this again? I admit my riding may >be a bit rough, but I never broke one before, not even on my old XT, which I >beat the snot out of. >Has this happened to any of you? If so, what was your fix? This is a notoriously weak part on the KLR. I bent my stocker in a low-speed dump on pavement and then rebent it with little difficulty. Then, a couple of months later the fatigued metal in the shift lever failed (tore, actualy) on the way to a rally in N.Georgia. If I hadnt stumbled across a competant welder in Edgfield SC , the trip would have been a disaster. I have since installed an IMS shifter, one made of a more resiliant steel that can be bent and rebent indefinatly. IMHO, this is a must-have replacement part of the KLR. - -Tom '96 KLR 650 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 00:36:21 -0500 From: "Preferred Customer" Subject: Re: (klr650) RIP KLR Even though I'm a new lister and should speak only when spoken to, I gotta chime in here 'cause this is a touchy subject with me: Sombody asked Cameron what he learned from the accident. Well judging from the list of gear he was wearing (leather jacket, gloves, quality helmet, riding boots, thick pants, etc.) it would seem to me that the dude knows a few things already. I've had a flat on my race bike, but I had some warning. A blowout is very unexpected, and gives you no warning at all. Furthermore, who can figure what those dick head drivers are gonna do who follow way too close to us motorcyclists. So my point is, what happened to Cameron was sudden and unforseeble, there was really nothing he could do. But the part that he could control, like the gear he was wearing, he had covered. The fact that we all ride KLR's means we are smarter than most motorcyclists ;) so dont lapse and ever ride without proper safety gear. The day I got hit (head on at speed), I just happened to be wearing the same kind of stuff Cameron had on. And like him, my ass was spared. If that lady hit me on the day I wheelied my way to the gym in shirt & shorts, today the only place I'd be dual sporting would be up there in the clouds. Most of the listers here I'm sure are into safety gear so cut me off and hit the delete key now. But for those who think that all that stuff is expensive and hot, think again, and put it on. Cameron, glad you're OK, & hope you fully recover soon. BG ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 22:43:08 -0700 From: "Fred Hink" Subject: Re: (klr650) Tach troubleshooting... - -----Original Message----- From: Kurt Simpson To: List KLR Date: Thursday, March 04, 1999 3:30 PM Subject: (klr650) Tach troubleshooting... >Does anyone have a clue as to how to approach Sarah's non-functioning tach? How does >the thing work so that one can troubleshoot it? Fred? > >Thanks, > >Kurt > > > There is a whole section on figureing out the tach in the KLR base manual on pages: 14-19, 14-20 & 14-21 If Sarah doesn't have the manual and has some electrical experience and a multimeter then I would be glad to help her out. Fred ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 00:26:18 -0800 From: "Arne Larsen" Subject: (klr650) "DOH!" (NKLR) F650 comparisons Dear everyone, I just wanna say that I kinda feel a bit like a Homer right now. I just got back after spending the better part of 3 hours, looking through some 166 postings (in the Archives over at Gino's place) regarding F650 bike comparisons. I feel bad badly that I've bent peoples ears on this matter when (judging by all the previous traffic), there must be ears out there that are touching the ground by now. To Michael Kovaliv and Reverand "Chuck", since you both were at the same place I am now, are you still happy with your decisions? I've gotta say though, being a stubborn Norwegian myself (just ask my wife), that Helge Pederson sure makes a guy proud! But I dare say that traversing "Horsethief Pass" switchbacks on the BMW would scare the shit outta me. For people who haven't seen this - you've got to. Check out the Dual-sport news archives and look for Tom's post. Goodnight all, Arne ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V2 #89 ***************************