From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V2 #99 Reply-To: klr650 Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Sunday, March 7 1999 Volume 02 : Number 099 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 16:32:14 -0500 From: "Steamroller" Subject: Re: (klr650) Re: (KTM 650) field operative reports Well, at least here in New York, there are no "legal, public" places to ride. I've spent my entire Saturday researching places (it was snowing anyway). So far I've found one forest in PA, the Alleghany, way out by Oh= io, a few seasonal trails in MA, one "pay-to-play" off-road park in NJ. Everything else is "illegal". All this and NY requires ALL ATV's to registered and insured, even when solely used on ones own property, for t= he purposes of a "trail fund", yeah right, try ,"balance the budget fund" th= is seems to be the problem all over the Northeast. Plus, DP's just don't generate the "STATUS" that a SUV generates, which i= n my opinion is a major reason why people buy the damn things anyhow. That's the way I see it, at least around here, anyway. What I should do is move to North Carolina or maybe Arizona, at least at these places, you can still do stuff, like have fun. New York Pete - -----Original Message----- From: Carlos Y. Gonz=E1lez To: Robert Morgan ; K650dsn@aol.com ; klr650@lists.xmission.com Date: Sunday, March 07, 1999 1:40 PM Subject: Re: (klr650) Re: (KTM 650) field operative reports > > >---------- >> From: Robert Morgan > >> I have a feeling >> this could be the year Dual Sporting really takes off in this country. >> Morgan >> Carlsbad Ca. > >Anybody have any thoughts on why dual sport bikes haven't been as popula= r >as sport-utility vehicles have been in the last few years? At least in >purpose of design, DP bikes seem like the SUV's equivalent in the >motorcycling world. > >Carlos >Milwaukee, WI > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 17:43:10 +0000 From: Jeffrey Doyle Subject: (klr650) Low battery March has come in like a lion up here in New England. Went to start up my KLR yesterday (1st time in 2 weeks) and had to bump start it due to a low battery. Got it going after the third hop though (and didn't kick out the rear directional signals in the process). Took a five miler by Long Island Sound and thought about how happy I should be with the 40 degree heat wave. Today there's snow on the ground, 40 mph winds and highs in the 20's. Dam I can't wait for summer. These short rides have to do for now. I checked my chain adjustment (cold) according to the lister that said it should be within about a 1/16th inch from the padded forward part of the swingarm when you push up on it from the bottom and low and behold I had it right on the money. It's much easier than trying to eye-ball it with a ruler! I was concerned about that because I made the foolish mistake of damaging one countershaft already. Lot's of cool info on this list. Time to crank up the trickle charger, top off the cells, and get my last 12 months out of this 36 month wonder. KLR batteries aren't cheap. I think this gem cost me about $70.00 filled from a dealer 2 years ago. It shocked me a little because I used to buy Dorsey batteries for previous bikes for a lot less. Just had to be careful with the acid bag. I think I'll shop around next time. Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 14:15:03 -0800 From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" Subject: Re: (klr650) RE: (NKLR) Boots and Jackets > >Yes, don't count on the 100% waterproof claim. I returned the first one >for leaking like a sieve (through the upper vent zippers) and the second >one leaked too. Rider magazine pointed out the same problem in their >review. FWIW > >-- >Dean in Seattle 95 VFR, 94 KLR650 > Dean ought to know, riding in Seattle. Been there, done that. I was very impressed with my Kilimanjaro's waterproofness while riding there. If it leaked, I didn't notice. And if it did leak, the fleece liner kept me warm anyway. Jeff > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 14:06:26 -0800 From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" Subject: Re: (klr650) Alpinestar Boots >BTW - Jeff I wear those Danners all summer on my bike with no heat related >problems. Without going to a jungle boot style boot I can't see getting any >cooler. > >From the comments made by Arne and Jeff I get the feeling there are >significantly different models of Danners out there. I know for example >there are insulated and non-insulated Danners, must be other differences as >well. > >Cheers, > >Vik I was referring to the Danner insulated boots that were issued to us for winter use. They were an all leather boot, with an insulated Gortex liner. They were like putting on Frankenstein's boots. I thought that these were what you were talking about, since they were the only issue type of Danner. I haven't been a military clothing sales for over two years now though. I think that I would prefer wearing my Hi-Techs over Jungle boots for riding, just because I know that if my feet get wet, at least the Magnums will insulate somewhat. I've nearly gotten frostbite from riding with jungles in the rain before. Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 14:56:26 PST From: "Juan Villarreal" Subject: (klr650) Miles to go...(NKLR) Rev Chuck wrote: >My only problem to date with the KLR is I don't have enough time to >ride it. Hmmmm... Little time to ride means a busy schedule for you which in your case means people must not be behaving themselves. Maybe you should consider giving us a running odometer count so we can have some idea of how the human race is doing. On second thought... Juan Villarreal, '97 KLR "The Happy Hooligan" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 15:08:24 -0800 From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" Subject: Re: (klr650) Re: (KTM 650) field operative reports Well, at least here in New York, there are no "legal, public" places to ride. I've spent my entire Saturday researching places (it was snowing anyway). So far I've found one forest in PA, the Alleghany, way out by Ohio, a few seasonal trails in MA, one "pay-to-play" off-road park in NJ. Everything else is "illegal". All this and NY requires ALL ATV's to registered and insured, even when solely used on ones own property, for the purposes of a "trail fund", yeah right, try ,"balance the budget fund" this seems to be the problem all over the Northeast. Plus, DP's just don't generate the "STATUS" that a SUV generates, which in my opinion is a major reason why people buy the damn things anyhow. That's the way I see it, at least around here, anyway. What I should do is move to North Carolina or maybe Arizona, at least at these places, you can still do stuff, like have fun. New York Pete > >Anybody have any thoughts on why dual sport bikes haven't been as popular >as sport-utility vehicles have been in the last few years? At least in >purpose of design, DP bikes seem like the SUV's equivalent in the >motorcycling world. > >Carlos >Milwaukee, WI > I agree. Buying SUV's has become a real status thing. Talk about pretentiousness! A MERCEDES SUV! Please! If that isn't a status thing, then I don't know what is. Here in WA we USE our SUV's. I got mine to get around off road for hunting, skiing, fishing, mountainbiking, hiking, camping, and all the other things I do that takes me off the pavement. If I didn't do at least one activity like that per month, then I would have just gotten a minivan with studded tires for the snow. Pretentiousness in motorcycles seems to be for BMW and HD owners, not true Dual Sporters who actually ride there bikes off road, where they get muddy, scratched and beat up. If you fall into the catagory that is offended by my remarks, sorry to hear that you're just another typical American consumer. If you want to flame me back, feel free. If its interesting enough, I might just put down my copy of Thoreau long enough to reply. Jeff--"Simplify, simplify, simplify" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 15:19:51 -0800 From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" Subject: Re: (klr650) Low battery >Time to crank up the trickle charger, top off the cells, and get my last >12 months out of this 36 month wonder. KLR batteries aren't cheap. I >think this gem cost me about $70.00 filled from a dealer 2 years ago. >It shocked me a little because I used to buy Dorsey batteries for >previous bikes for a lot less. Just had to be careful with the acid >bag. I think I'll shop around next time. > >Jeff > Seems to me, Fred had some batteries listed on his site for much less than that. I thought that my battery was a goner after this winter, but after topping off the cells, (maybe about 10 cc's of distilled water needed,) and some progressive charging (about 10 seconds at 50 amps, 5 minutes at ten amps, and overnight at a trickle) the battery has performed great for the last two weeks. I'm not sure how old this battery is, as I bought my A3 last year, but it looks pretty used, and one of the cell caps broke off and I had to glue it in permanently. (Thankfully that cell is still topped off). Jeff--Deep in the heart of the Columbia Basin, Washington ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 18:28:34 -0500 From: PAT_HENSLEY@HP-USA-om32.om.hp.com Subject: (klr650) RE: Parts from Fred - --openmail-part-1954e03e-00000001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="BDY.TXT" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="BDY.TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fred wrote:>>>> Where do you live? Antarctica? The Moon? <<<<<< Arnie: I have spent some time in Antarctica and I would bet that Fred could easily get parts to you there (the problem is getting the permits to run a combustion engine vehicle on the continent). Now the moon.... I am sure Fred *could* get you parts shipped there, but you would have to pay for shipping. If that indeed is your location, I might suggest going to your local dealer to avoid the shipping cost. ;) Pat Austin, TX '97 w/ 10.8K miles - --openmail-part-1954e03e-00000001-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 16:45:22 -0700 From: Bogdan Swider Subject: RE: (klr650) re. Spring Industry Announcments What ever happened to the good Docter Birol? > I have sold parts to our Turkish > Doctor Say ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 18:44:38 -0500 From: PAT_HENSLEY@HP-USA-om32.om.hp.com Subject: (klr650) RE: Moab Girls - --openmail-part-1954f25e-00000001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="BDY.TXT" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="BDY.TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gino wrote:>>>>>> >Came in to warm up and check out Fred's revised homepage and noticed he had >the umbrella girl page. <<<<<< Hey, that Fred is a marketing genius, isn't he!! Pat Austin, TX '97 KLR @ 10.8K miles - --openmail-part-1954f25e-00000001-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 18:44:46 -0500 From: PAT_HENSLEY@HP-USA-om32.om.hp.com Subject: (klr650) Moab 99 - --openmail-part-1954f2f6-00000001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="BDY.TXT" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="BDY.TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone from Texas plan on riding hard; ie, darn near non-stop (either on the bike on in a truck/trailer) to the Moab Rally this year? If so, please email me. I wanna go, but I need someone to complain with if I am going to do the 1,000 mile journey on the KLR. Pat@Ironungle.Com Austin, TX - --openmail-part-1954f2f6-00000001-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 16:52:12 -0700 From: "Fred Hink" Subject: Re: (klr650) RE: Moab Girls - -----Original Message----- From: PAT_HENSLEY@HP-USA-om32.om.hp.com To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Date: Sunday, March 07, 1999 9:50 AM Subject: (klr650) RE: Moab Girls Hey, that Fred is a marketing genius, isn't he!! Pat Austin, TX '97 KLR @ 10.8K miles Now if I could just figure out how to give away free beer, then I would have something. Fred ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 18:01:53 -0000 From: "Eric Jasniewicz" Subject: (klr650) KLR disk lock w/alarm Try a Xena disk lock. The alarm on it probably works better to protect your bike from you, rather than a thief, but... http://www.mgx.co.uk/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 16:13:51 -0800 From: "ripkid" Subject: (klr650) Helge Pederson Show Hey I was wondering if Helge Pederson was doing a show for Ten years on two wheels in Seattle? If so I might bomb down for it. Cheers, Vik - ------------------- >Hey I was wondering if Helge Pederson was doing a show for Ten years on two wheels >in Seattle? Helge lives in Seattle, does shows there more regularly than elsewhere. Stuart A12 Juno Beach, FL - ----------------------- Ok Vik, Heres my Plan. You bomb down here with a case of Canadian (not sparkling water). We then load up on lutefisk and head over to Helge's place for a bit of a chat. Who would have thunk this could be so damn convenient? - ----rik in Seattle with an A13 cooling down after a sweet ride in brilliant spring weather... blah, blah, blah... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 16:12:46 -0800 From: "Arne Larsen" Subject: Re: (klr650) re. Spring Industry Announcments Thanks, I'll be sure to keep Fred in mind. I've got a feeling that if I hook up with a KLR that he would be a great deal more knowledgeable than most out here. Arne - -----Original Message----- From: Stuart Heaslet To: Arne Larsen Date: Sunday, March 07, 1999 1:18 PM Subject: Re: (klr650) re. Spring Industry Announcments >At 09:12 AM 3/7/99 -0800, you wrote: >>Fred, I'd love to be able to bring you my business. Unfortunately there are >>too many miles between us. Thanks for the advice - let's hope the wait >>isn't too long... > >Hi Arne, > >Just wanted to drop you a note - I know you're in Canada, but Fred has been >great for all my mailorder stuff. I live in Florida, and his prices have >been competitive even with first class mail shipping. > >Best, > >Stuart >KLR A12 >Juno Beach, Florida USA ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 16:15:22 -0800 From: "Arne Larsen" Subject: Re: (klr650) Pederson Show I would be willing to put money down (well, almost willing) that Helge doesn't get bugged too much about the fact that he rides an F650. Does he ride this bike by choice, or is he sponsored by BMW? Arne - -----Original Message----- From: Stuart Heaslet To: ripkid ; klr Date: Sunday, March 07, 1999 1:25 PM Subject: Re: (klr650) Pederson Show >At 12:35 PM 3/7/99 -0800, ripkid wrote: >>Hey I was wondering if Helge Pederson was doing a show for Ten years on >two wheels >>in Seattle? > >Helge lives in Seattle, does shows there more regularly than elsewhere. I >finally got to meet him in person at Daytona last Thursday - a heck of a >nice guy. Also got to meet Florida Frank and a few others, including some >Iron Butt aficionados. > >Stuart >A12 >Juno Beach, FL ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 16:44:48 -0800 From: "Arne Larsen" Subject: Re: (klr650) Pederson Show Erik (with the scandahoovian name) You won't hear me ever slagging the Beemer. The name "Fund..." yes, (I said in an earlier post I'd never say the name outloud) but not the bike. However, I don't think the Rotax/Bombadier engine is used by KTM - I could be mistaken, but I believe they have their own. Aprilia (whom BMW developed the frame from) have their own version of the F650 called the Pegaso 650. If I recall correctly, I think Aprilia also uses the Rotax motor, but in a 5-valve configuration. BMW lost the center valve and put a second spark plug in it's place. Arne (with another scandahoovian name) - -----Original Message----- From: Erik Schelzig To: Arne Larsen Cc: klr Date: Sunday, March 07, 1999 4:32 PM Subject: Re: (klr650) Pederson Show >On Sun, 7 Mar 1999, Arne Larsen wrote: > >> I would be willing to put money down (well, almost willing) that Helge >> doesn't get bugged too much about the fact that he rides an F650. Does he >> ride this bike by choice, or is he sponsored by BMW? >> >> Arne > >It seems that Pederson could ride a velo-solex and nobody would be allowed >to say anything to the man that spent ten years on two wheels. Also, >despite the outrageous price of the F650 (and the downright stupid name >"Funduro"), the bike did make significant strides towards respectablility >by its dominant showing in the Dakkar race. Also, the Rotax engines that >they use are, if I'm very much mistaken, the same used by KTM. Not that >I'm running out to buy a beemer any time soon, but it seems to be much >less the joke bike than it used to be. > >Allbests, > >Erik ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V2 #99 ***************************