From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V2 #1112 Reply-To: klr650 Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Friday, November 5 1999 Volume 02 : Number 1112 (klr650) Re: NKLR USEFUL METRIC CONVERSIONS (klr650) NKLR USEFUL METRIC CONVERSIONS Re: (klr650) Charging at Idle Re: (klr650) Charging at Idle Re: (klr650) Heritage and Guzzi's NKLR (klr650) gas tank klr logo (klr650) gas tank klr logo RE: (klr650) gas tank klr logo RE: (klr650) Part of "Wish List" complete (klr650) Seats (klr650) buell Single (klr650) Charging At Idle II/// Re: (klr650) Charging At Idle II/// (klr650) Fork Seal Part # (klr650) Vertically challanged! (klr650) Canadian carb heaters Re: (klr650) Vertically challanged! Re: (klr650) Vertically challanged! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 12:01:55 -0800 From: "Robert Morgan" Subject: (klr650) Re: NKLR USEFUL METRIC CONVERSIONS For those of you that are struggling with Commie Metric Shit, here are some useful conversions. USEFUL METRIC CONVERSIONS 1 million microphones = 1 megaphone 1 million bicycles = 2 megacycles 2000 mockingbirds = two kilomockingbirds 10 cards = 1 decacards 1/2 lavatory = 1 demijohn 1 millionth of a fish = 1 microfiche 453.6 graham crackers = 1 pound cake 10 rations = 1 decoration 10 millipedes = 1 centipede 3 1/3 tridents = 1 decadent 10 monologs = 5 dialogues 2 monograms = 1 diagram 8 nickels = 2 paradigms 2 baby sitters = 1 gramma grampa Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 15:07:08 -0500 From: Ian Cariolo Subject: (klr650) NKLR USEFUL METRIC CONVERSIONS At 12:01 PM 11/5/99 -0800, you wrote: >For those of you that are struggling with Commie Metric Shit, here are some >useful conversions. > >USEFUL METRIC CONVERSIONS That was great! lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll Ian Cariolo 1985 VF700F Interceptor 1986 Kawasaki KL600B Duxbury, MA llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 07:50:13 +1100 From: Ted Palmer Subject: Re: (klr650) Charging at Idle Paul Christenson wrote: [...] > Make sure the exhaust system is up to running temp when you shut it down. > You don't want the gases to condense inside the muffler and cause it to > rust. The exhaust won't stay hot forever, so whatever gasses will eventually condense to some extent anyway. Mister_T Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 07:55:12 +1100 From: Ted Palmer Subject: Re: (klr650) Charging at Idle Bogdan Swider wrote: [...] > Take it for a ride till it gets nice & warm. Rev the hell out of it > or at least ride at 5k rpm instead of the usual 3k rpm. Shut it off > immediately when you hit home. Push it into the garage instead of letting it > idle or restarting if you must get off to open the door. I suppose it depends on how you shut it off as well. If turning off the ignition, the faster the motor is running, the more completely unburned fuel and air will be drawn through until the motor stops. Of course, I'm no expert in winter bike storage. It's quite a foreign concept in the vast majority of Australia. Mister_T Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 08:06:31 +1100 From: Ted Palmer Subject: Re: (klr650) Heritage and Guzzi's NKLR Gino wrote: > Just out of curiosity, how important is a motorcycle's racing heritage or > lineage to you the consumer. Might be best to ask the F650 Chain Gang. They'd be a pretty obvious target for such marketing. Us KLR pilots don't have much competition pedigree to crow about (maybe some Australian Safari offroad event results for KLX650R jockeys, but no KLRs AFAIR) [...] > While BMW is happy to show women (who have probably never been on a > motorcycle) posing by sparkling clean F650's, MG chose to show a women who > actually looks like she knows how to ride (and recently wore a helmet) > standing next to the muddy Quota. If she can lug a Guzzi through real mud, she's a better man than I. Mister_T Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 17:44:47 -0500 From: Andre Roy Subject: (klr650) gas tank klr logo I've just purshase a 99 klr (a13) and I just realize how much the 98 klr gas tank logo were more awesome than the one the 99. It's look like kawa repair their mistake on the 2k model but does anyone got a quick fix for the 99? Am I the only one with this feeling? Andy, Montreal Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:49:41 -0700 From: Jason Lutz - ISDX Subject: (klr650) gas tank klr logo I thought that the Y2K KLR had the same logo (square letters, with sparklies) as the '99. The Y2K bike I saw had a horrid "Army man green" that I did not dig. Of course that is my own personal opinion. I mean not be very objective, I own a '98 KLR, but I thought Kawi made the bike look "cheap" with that color scheme. That forest green of the '99 and previous gave the KLR a look like it would fit into a BMW show case or something... Am I off base? Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:36:48 -0800 From: "Drew" Subject: RE: (klr650) gas tank klr logo Yes, the only thing that would have been worse would have been the 1st year KLX650 paint scheme. Kawi green has to go... >I thought that the Y2K KLR had the same logo (square letters, with sparklies) as the '99. The Y2K bike I saw had a horrid "Army man green" that I did not dig. Of course that is my own personal opinion. Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 17:32:45 -0600 From: Alan L Henderson Subject: RE: (klr650) Part of "Wish List" complete > >I am driving without any windshield. I like the clean clear air up there. >I also wonder if one's perceptions are driven by helmet type. I have a full >face Shoei RF800. > >Michael > I too am going with the windshield. I didn't notice the buffeting wearing my old open face Bell RT, of course there was too much wind noise to notice anything. I am now using a full face Shoei RFR, the only helmet that I could find that would fit my head more or less. The Shoei is fairly quiet and I really noticed the buffeting big time. Alan Henderson A13 Iowa Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 18:45:39 -0600 From: aches@deltech.net (Chesley, Andrus) Subject: (klr650) Seats Kurt or anyone.... does Bill Miers (spelling yukky) still build seats for the KLR also and does anyone have a phone number for him. Intiment morning with KLR, changed oil/filter (Castrol 10w40), checked valves, wired in BMW receptable for me GPS or Widder Vest ( which ever needed at time), and installed SU Racks I recieved today, built the cute ( I think so anyway) little alu spacers to reinstall the signal lights in a pleasant 5 hours. Guess I'll do the chains tomorrow before hitting the road for Arkansas. - -- Cheers and Best Regards Andy Chesley @ 56 and ticking Jennings, La. R11RA,DR350SET,A14 "So Many Roads, So Little Time" http://www.deltech.net/members/aches Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 17:19:06 -0800 From: "Debt Doctor" Subject: (klr650) buell Single Here is a very poor picture of the new Buell Thor single cylinder sport bike. (http://www.prospexx.com/images/Buell%20Thor.jpg) I can't say where I got it and I don't have very much info on it. Today the grapevine says it is 500 or 600cc's, vertical cylinder with everything new except the gearbox, which is a Buell modified Sporster gearbox. The story today says the engine is relatively short stroke unit with, pushrod valve gear. Armstrong of England has had a large hand in what the end results will be. If you are unaware, Armstrong is an English motorcycle manufacturer that has been building Rotax powered military bikes for UN forces for a number of years. Where is the connection? Harley-Davidson has owned Armstrong outright for quite some time. Apparently they wanted to keep it quiet. They didn't want the public to know they built another line of truly shitty motorcycles. (http://members.aol.com/fgyt/armstrong/500.htm) The word is out now so they'll probably quit making them. Tom McKenzie A13 and a bunch of other stuff, no Armstrong's Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 06:59:56 -0800 From: "e. rhoads" Subject: (klr650) Charging At Idle II/// > The consensus seems to be that the bike will not charge at idle speed. > This, of course, begs the question: At what speed does the alternator > begin to charge the battery? > Thanks. > Bob Kaub > >_______________________________________ ...... No no, it doesn't beg the question. The question you asked was, in fact, answered. Asking what speed it needs to charge the battery is a new question. If you want to know that you will have to figure it out yourself. It's easy with a voltmeter. Establish rpm for the point at which the system goes from battery-supported operation to alternator-supported operation. Add a known draw, such as a headlight. Increase rpm till you go from battery-supported operation to alternator-supported operation. Fool around with different loads if you want. And if you do all this consider charting and posting your results. eric Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 21:11:36 -0500 From: "bob kaub" Subject: Re: (klr650) Charging At Idle II/// > The consensus seems to be that the bike will not charge at idle speed. > > This, of course, begs the question: At what speed does the alternator > > begin to charge the battery? > > Thanks. > > Bob Kaub > ...... No no, it doesn't beg the question. The question you asked was, > in fact, answered. Asking what speed it needs to charge the battery is a > new question. If you want to know that you will have to figure it out > yourself. It's easy with a voltmeter. Establish rpm for the point at which > the system goes from battery-supported operation to alternator-supported > operation. Add a known draw, such as a headlight. Increase rpm till you go > from battery-supported operation to alternator-supported operation. Fool > around with different loads if you want. And if you do all this consider > charting and posting your results.<<<<>>>> Eric: The next time I start up my bike to warm it up I'm not going to tell anybody! Thanks. Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 21:11:32 EST From: Krgrife@aol.com Subject: (klr650) Fork Seal Part # Some months ago I reported that my mechanic buddies at the local shop suggested that I use Honda fork seals in my KLR since according to them they are of superior quality than either the Kawi or aftermarket seals. I've had the part # but never got around to posting it till now. Honda #51490-KA3-711. Regards, Kurt Grife Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 19:23:21 -0700 (MST) From: Heather Skogerson Subject: (klr650) Vertically challanged! What should I do? I had my stock seat lowered about an inch, so they said at the shop, and I could touch the ground, on tippi toes, with tennis shoes on. Now, I got some great dirt boots, and I can't touch the ground at all! I'm probably 5'4", on a good day! I really need to touch the ground with both feet. I can do it with one, but it's a real pain in the ass, and not as secure on the stops. Should I cut the seat out more, or, I've been looking at the Travelcade Saddlemen brochure, and their dual sport seat looks lower. I did look in the archives and I found the lowering links, but it looks like I already have them on the bike. Although, I don't know what the normal ones look like. Anyone have any good suggestions besides grow, I'm done growing vertically. Thanks in advance. Heather Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 18:42:28 -0800 From: "Dreas Nielsen" Subject: (klr650) Canadian carb heaters I was talking to my dealer the other day about carb heaters, and he said that, although there is no heater kit for the U.S. carb, Canadian KLRs have a different carb that might be able to take a heater kit. He couldn't tell me, though, whether Kawasaki makes such a kit for Canadian carbs. So, is it true that Canadian KLRs have different carbs? And if so, can anyone north of the border find any information on the availability of heater kits? Dreas Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 19:50:02 -0700 From: "Fred Hink" Subject: Re: (klr650) Vertically challanged! Hello Heather, How do you know if you have lowering links already? Where is your forks set in the triple clamps? You may be able to gain about an inch if you are careful by raising the forks in the triple clamps. This will effect your handling so only move the forks about a half inch at a time and then go test to see how it handles. Raising the forks in the triple clamps will make your bike more "twitchy" at speed so be careful. Fred - ----- Original Message ----- From: Heather Skogerson To: Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 7:23 PM Subject: (klr650) Vertically challanged! > What should I do? > I had my stock seat lowered about an inch, so they said at the shop, and I > could touch the ground, on tippi toes, with tennis shoes on. Now, I got > some great dirt boots, and I can't touch the ground at all! I'm probably > 5'4", on a good day! I really need to touch the ground with both feet. I > can do it with one, but it's a real pain in the ass, and not as secure on > the stops. Should I cut the seat out more, or, I've been looking at the > Travelcade Saddlemen brochure, and their dual sport seat looks lower. I > did look in the archives and I found the lowering links, but it looks > like I already have them on the bike. Although, I don't know what the > normal ones look like. Anyone have any good suggestions besides grow, I'm > done growing vertically. Thanks in advance. > Heather > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net > for info. > Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 20:09:14 -0700 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: Re: (klr650) Vertically challanged! > like I already have them on the bike. Although, I don't know what the > normal ones look like. Anyone have any good suggestions besides grow, I'm > done growing vertically. Thanks in advance. > Heather Well measure the distance between the bolts on the links (center to center) and post it to the list, we'll then tell you if you have the lowering links. My guess is you don't. If you put the stock Corbin seat on you'll be 11/2" lower to the ground. I bet you could find some folks on the list that would give one away pretty cheap. I think Tim Bernard would sell his. Kurt Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Subscribe to Dual Sport News...write to dsneditor@softhome.net for info. ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V2 #1112 *****************************