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klr650-digest        Monday, December 6 1999        Volume 02 : Number 1205



(klr650) New here
(klr650) Hedge Peterson
Re: (klr650) clearview, where to buy?
(klr650) Marine diesel KLR650s
(klr650) Questions 
Re: (klr650) 2000 KLR Price?
RE: (klr650) 2000 KLR Price?
Re: (klr650) powdercoating vs anodizing
RE: (klr650) Hedge Peterson
Re: (klr650) 2000 KLR Price?
(klr650) Re: klr650-digest V2 #1204
(klr650) (Was) Leaking gas cap
Re: (klr650) Re: klr650-digest V2 #1204
Re: (klr650) Re: klr650-digest V2 #1204
Re: (klr650) 2000 KLR Price?

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Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 18:33:08 -0500
From: "Steve Secrest" <ssecrest@cinci.rr.com>
Subject: (klr650) New here

Hi to everyone on this list. I'm new here and will be buying a new KLR as
soon as the
Gold Wing sells. Anyone interested in a nice 98 Aspencade? <G>
I had a KLR600 way back when and loved it ... it's time to get another one.
One question tho,
where in the world did the kickstarter go??? I tend to ride year 'round and
with the 600 I had,
after using electric jackets and chaps, the battery would always be too low
to use the button.
Is there an aftermarket kit or does Kawaski sell kicks as an option? If so,
what kind of price?
Looking forward to some rides and maybe meeting some of you fine folks next
summer.

I know about the "no KLR" thing in the subject but wanted the first to get
to everyone! <G>
BTW ... If I stand on the pegs .... does that lower the center of gravity?
JUST KIDDING!

Steve in Cincy


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Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 15:42:21 -0800
From: Sarah Barwig <sarah@weddingchannel.com>
Subject: (klr650) Hedge Peterson

> Russel'r aka Hedge Peterson (whoever he is)

Probably trying to compare you to Helge Pedersen. You know,
the first guy to get a motorcycle across the Darien Gap in
Panama.

But it's amusing, because in high school, my family had a
norwegian exchange student named Hege Pettersen. And geez
did she have a pair of gams.

Whichever, I think it'd be interesting to be on a ride with
either of 'em. :)

Sarah


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Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 19:44:09 -0500
From: Stuart Heaslet <stuart@heaslet.com>
Subject: Re: (klr650) clearview, where to buy?

At 03:45 PM 12/6/99 -0500, Nandaholz@aol.com wrote:
> sounds like the Clearview is the preferred 
>windshield. Where can I order one? 

Call Clearview at 800.798.6089.  They're near Denver.

Stuart

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Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 18:46:11 -0600
From: "John Houchins" <jhouch@radiks.net>
Subject: (klr650) Marine diesel KLR650s

Listers,

In my mailbox today was my AMA rag American Motorcyclist. Inside was an
article titled THE FEW, THE PROUD Diesel Kawasaki KLR650s join the Marines.
I paraphrase:
" The military has long wished for a motorcycle that would run on diesel...
And now
after years of development, a diesel-powered Kawasaki KLR650 has
successfully
completed marine Corps training... Hayes Diversified Technologies of
Hesperia, CA
is supplying the Marines with the converted machines. ... Company president
Fred
Hayes says the company has worked with the Marines since 1985. Until
recently
though, the focus was on gasoline-powered KLR250s. The need for more power
and
durability required the switch to a larger displacement machine.. "Its a
robust
motorcycle," Hayes said. "Its handles extremely well. It is extremely
reliable, and
it proved to be the best choice for this application,"  The diesel
conversion has been
on the HDT drawing board since 1984.... HDT contracted the Royal Military
College
Of Science from Cranfield University in England to design the engine. The
diesel-fitted
KLR650s recently completed testing and training and HDT has just started
production.
Blah blah.....

Interesting, very interesting. First I'm Jonesing for one! Question,
questions?
Will there be engine parts on the market?  Is it a converted engine or a
completely new one?

John from Omaha, my a-7 is just a gas gas gas!


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Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 16:57:22 -0800
From: "Darrel & Deanna" <elcid24@gte.net>
Subject: (klr650) Questions 

From: "Jose Luis Vazquez G." <doc01@Prodigy.Net.mx>
<snip>
and last one: how much are the radiator shrouds by there and the best
source, mines are broken and missing the tabs,, they are fixed with a
screw at the bottom fron both sides, and to the gas tank at top, one
have the plastic plug who fixes the rear to the bottom of the tank
missed too, so I guess must get a new ones, and they come from the
dealer with the decals?

Jose- My dealer charged me $49.70 for the LH shroud for my A12 and 
another $22.56 for the decal (ouch!).  The decal is poorer quality than
the original one, but it's better than nothing.  Its starting to peel off.
I recommend zip tying the shroud on when the tabs break.
Darrel    



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Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 19:55:54 EST
From: LawsonCL@aol.com
Subject: Re: (klr650) 2000 KLR Price?

Hey, think about it. Your out-the-door price has no correlation with anybody 
else's out-the-door price. Tax and license fees vary not only from state to 
state but from municipality to municipality. 

My 1999 was $4200 plus tax and license. I've heard of others paying as little 
as $4000. 

But you won't. Because Californians pay more. It's the way God wants it.

Chris Lawson

<<  I went to my local dealer here in the San Francisco bay area and he 
refused, said nothing under $5500 would do.  Anyone else buy a new one 
lately?  I would be interested to know what you paid out the door. >>

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Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 17:13:22 -0800
From: "Drew" <ajp1@axe.humboldt.edu>
Subject: RE: (klr650) 2000 KLR Price?

1. Do not pay for freight (destination); freight is reimbursed by the
manufacturer.
2. Try some of the other dealerships in the Bay Area/Valley.  You can find a
better deal than what SF has countered.

I bought my KLR new in 1995 in Redding.

Drew
Eureka area, CA



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Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 20:31:53 -0500
From: Mark McCoy <Mark.McCoy@sdrc.com>
Subject: Re: (klr650) powdercoating vs anodizing

I have been having email trouble so may have missed the rant but, don't
disregard the normal option, paint.  I think the brake caliper is just painted
but with a paint that has a catalyst so that it hardens from a chemical
reaction, not just "drying" like paint from a rattle can.  It is probably also
cured in an oven to expedite the process.  Paint of this nature gets very hard.

Mark McCoy

Di or Eddie C wrote:

> Hey Arne,
>
> I just read your powdercoating rant with respect to the bask plate.  I agree
> with you.
>
> My question is not regrading the bask plate specifically.  Does anyone know
> how powdercoating compares to anodizing for cost, durability, variety of
> colours/textures, material limitations, etc.  Is their any detriment to the
> surface hardening due to anodizing? There must be some resourse already
> on-line.
>
> Another q - is our brake caliper (for example) anodized, or powdercoated?
>
> I presume that they both provide equivalent corrosion resistance, but powder
> coating is prettier while anodizing is more functional.
>
> Eddie
>
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Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 17:35:55 -0800
From: Russell Scott <russell@eoncat.com>
Subject: RE: (klr650) Hedge Peterson

Anybody who would ride a 650 Beemer around the world needs his hedge 
examined.  People might think I am crazy taking a KLR on black diamond 
single tracks, but five other KLR Cal Posse members did it earlier this 
year, and they all seemed sane.  Then again, Toby is now designing bash 
plates, Tony is looking for a new un-dented gas tank, and I came within an 
inch of needing a new radiator.  OK, maybe we are a little insane, but you 
have to be if your going to ride motorcycles anyway.

Russel'r  Kaw Pow <- Sarah, you need a spell checker, its cams, not gams, 
unless they are sealed with silicone.

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From:	Sarah Barwig
Sent:	Monday, December 06, 1999 3:42 PM
To:	klr650@lists.xmission.com
Subject:	(klr650) Hedge Peterson

> Russel'r aka Hedge Peterson (whoever he is)

Probably trying to compare you to Helge Pedersen. You know,
the first guy to get a motorcycle across the Darien Gap in
Panama.

But it's amusing, because in high school, my family had a
norwegian exchange student named Hege Pettersen. And geez
did she have a pair of gams.

Whichever, I think it'd be interesting to be on a ride with
either of 'em. :)

Sarah


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Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 20:39:06 -0500
From: Mark McCoy <Mark.McCoy@sdrc.com>
Subject: Re: (klr650) 2000 KLR Price?

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I bought mine (99) for $4800 in a state with 6.5% sales tax.

Mark McCoy
Ohio

jon bowman wrote:

>   Have enjoyed reading the list over the last few months, this is my
> first post.  What is the list's experience with current prices on 2000
> KLR.  I got the dealer price sheet from cyclebuy.com added 5% profit,
> taxes, tags etc and came up with $4800 out the door.  I went to my
> local dealer here in the San Francisco bay area and he refused, said
> nothing under $5500 would do.  Anyone else buy a new one lately?  I
> would be interested to know what you paid out the door.  I'm willing
> to go $5000, but anything above that would seem to be an extreme
> profit margin if the numbers I am using are right.  Thanks.



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I bought mine (99) for $4800 in a state with 6.5% sales tax.

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<FONT SIZE=-1>Have enjoyed
reading the list over the last few months, this is my first post.&nbsp;
What is the list's experience with current prices on 2000 KLR.&nbsp; I
got the dealer price sheet from cyclebuy.com added 5% profit, taxes, tags
etc and came up with $4800 out the door.&nbsp; I went to my local dealer
here in the San Francisco bay area and he refused, said nothing under $5500
would do.&nbsp; Anyone else buy a new one lately?&nbsp; I would be interested
to know what you paid out the door.&nbsp; I'm willing to go $5000, but
anything above that would seem to be an extreme profit margin if the numbers
I am using are right.&nbsp; Thanks.</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
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Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 20:58:44 EST
From: ROKLINGE@aol.com
Subject: (klr650) Re: klr650-digest V2 #1204

I have a "99" KLR650 with stock exhaust and stock Kaw saddle bags.  The 
plastic side panel is melting like the Wicked Witch of the West.  Every time 
I go for a ride it melts a little more.  At some point I will be expecting 
Kaw to mail me a burnt up broomstick.  My Dealer says not covered by 
warranty, side panel or broomstick.  Anyone have the same problem and or 
recommended budget fix.

Ron Klinge
99 klr650 aka "KILLER"
71 BMW R75/5 aka "SLASHER"

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Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 21:02:13 EST
From: Cdekmg@aol.com
Subject: (klr650) (Was) Leaking gas cap

I replaced the O-ring under the gas cap hinge (my local mechanic had them, no 
charge) and the leak is gone : ) I've been checking the bike over carefully 
and it seems to be an anomaly.
I think (the O-ring being crimped) happened at the factory, though I'm 
surprised the dealer didn't notice the leak. It wasn't in their hands long, I 
took delivery the day it arrived.
I guess the moral of the story is new doesn't imply perfect, check those new 
bikes over!

Charles
A-14

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Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 18:15:11 -0800
From: "Steven Timm" <sitimm@home.com>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Re: klr650-digest V2 #1204

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Date: Monday, December 06, 1999 17:59
Subject: (klr650) Re: klr650-digest V2 #1204


>I have a "99" KLR650 with stock exhaust and stock Kaw saddle bags.  The
>plastic side panel is melting like the Wicked Witch of the West.  Every
time
>I go for a ride it melts a little more.  At some point I will be expecting
>Kaw to mail me a burnt up broomstick.  My Dealer says not covered by
>warranty, side panel or broomstick.  Anyone have the same problem and or
>recommended budget fix.

Yes I've been there and done that.

I would suggest purchasing Arne's rack. This will fix your problem.

Steve
>
>Ron Klinge
>99 klr650 aka "KILLER"
>71 BMW R75/5 aka "SLASHER"
>
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Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 18:13:49 -0800
From: "billmonahan" <billmonahan@peoplepc.com>
Subject: Re: (klr650) Re: klr650-digest V2 #1204

> I have a "99" KLR650 with stock exhaust and stock Kaw saddle bags.  The
> plastic side panel is melting like the Wicked Witch of the West.  Every
time
> I go for a ride it melts a little more.  At some point I will be expecting
> Kaw to mail me a burnt up broomstick.  My Dealer says not covered by
> warranty, side panel or broomstick.  Anyone have the same problem and or
> recommended budget fix.
>
> Ron Klinge
> 99 klr650 aka "KILLER"
> 71 BMW R75/5 aka "SLASHER"
>
>
My 98 did the same thing, the saddlebags help keep the heat in, and long
rides at high speeds don't help things much, either.  The local dealer (not
even the one I bought the bike from) replaced it once under warranty, but I
guess it doesn't bother me much anymore.  Now I slide the bags forward on a
long trip (anything over 5 miles at 75 mph, actually) if I want to avoid
melting stuff.  I've also lit up a rainsuit inside the right bag, but it got
extinguished before it melted anything else.  Moving the bags forward makes
all the difference, though.


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Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 21:35:40 EST
From: ATO137528@aol.com
Subject: Re: (klr650) 2000 KLR Price?

Picked up my A14 in Mississippi for $4899.  What a bargain!!  Ran across a 
guy with a 2000 XR 650L while riding this week.  Said he paid $5500 for it.  
Sucker!

Lamar

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