From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V2 #1280 Reply-To: klr650 Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Wednesday, January 5 2000 Volume 02 : Number 1280 (klr650) Re:Crashes (klr650) Re:Crashes NKLR Re: (klr650) KLR valve adjustment Re: (klr650) Re: Valves Re: (klr650) Re: Pikes Peak (NKLR) Re: (klr650) KLR valve adjustment Re: (klr650) Re:Crashes NKLR RE: (klr650) Year Re: (klr650) NKLR Excelsior bancruptcy Re: (klr650) Re:Crashes NKLR Re: (klr650) Re:Crashes NKLR Re: (klr650) KLR valve adjustment nklr ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 06:32:40 -0600 From: aches@deltech.net (Chesley, Andrus) Subject: (klr650) Re:Crashes ha ha ha..... well...... let me count the scars.. both mentally and physically.... riding for 40 years and did the competive thing for about 14 years on flat tracking the little outlaw tracks to MX ing in the early 70's.. Heck my KLR and DR have better suspenions than my Bultacos, Suzukis ., Yamaha, Triumphs, BSA's and Matchless's did of years past... One of my funnyest was on my '76 XT 500 Yamaha.. had it to 525 with cams, 10.5 piston and 36 VM Mik.. was natually getting drunk with some Harley buds one nite and ended up in a race back to town with my 500 showing the way.... was slowing down to about 45 and doing wheelies to about 70 in 4th gear. getting into town one of my buds pull up and wanted me to do one more.. forgetting I was in 3rd instead of 4th.. I got it up way faster than my drunk mind and bod could react to so was throwing it away and sliding down the road on rear end and back... wallet saved left cheek but ended up with good rash on right cheek.. figured that when I slowed down enuff I could dig my heels in and come up walking. well misjudged speed and came up faster than I could even run so went head first this time skinning up the back of my hands and right deltoid.. oh well... heck the bike was just laying there still ideling when got to it.. no other damages so to speak of.. Well don't do that no more thank God survived those years worst was at a stop sign at night and came to in a hospital a few hours later to be told I had been the victim of a hit and run. still don't remember anything about that one.. good concussion.. sprung and lucky..... lost a good bike though.. '82 Yama XV920RJ - -- Cheers and Best Regards Andy Chesley @ 56 and ticking Jennings, La. 97 R11RA, 97 DR350SET(forsale $2800) ,KLR A14 "So Many Roads, So Little Time" http://members.deltech.net/aches Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@softhome.net To subscribe/unsubscribe send message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com leave subject blank. In the body of the message type: subscribe/unsubscribe klr650 (or subscribe/unsubscribe klr650-digest). ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 08:36:16 EST From: EPhilride@aol.com Subject: (klr650) Re:Crashes NKLR Andy wrote: 40 years and still kick'n - way to go Andy. No Maico's or Husky's - shame on you! Nice story. Makes you wonder how we survived those "wild days". If you ever get a chance, come ride with us in the southern mountains. Ernie P. Chattanooga, TN xrl, gspd Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@softhome.net To subscribe/unsubscribe send message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com leave subject blank. In the body of the message type: subscribe/unsubscribe klr650 (or subscribe/unsubscribe klr650-digest). ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 09:44:49 EST From: TLrydr@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR valve adjustment At 565 miles 3 of my valves needed adjustment, I remember one of the exhaust valves was way,way to tight, Mike A14 In a message dated 1/4/00 9:05:15 PM EST, sitimm@home.com writes: << This is interesting...my dealer said it doesn't need to be done and sent me on my merry way. So...I'm now sitting on 9150 km w/ my 99 purchased in April. >> Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@softhome.net To subscribe/unsubscribe send message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com leave subject blank. In the body of the message type: subscribe/unsubscribe klr650 (or subscribe/unsubscribe klr650-digest). ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 07:44:14 -0800 From: "Fred Hink" Subject: Re: (klr650) Re: Valves - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chesley, Andrus" To: "KLRlist" Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 4:18 AM Subject: (klr650) Re: Valves my dealers let me watch and > talk to the mechanic as he did the first 600 mile service on the bike But this did really lock me on to this dealer > for years to come. Very good, well trained mechanic and a very good > dealership that knows it's products. Getting harder to find all the time > in this fast paced world. oh Heberts in Baton Rouge is that dealer and > both the mechanics ride old XL650's mostly even though it's a BMW, > Ducati, MotoGuzzi place.. I knew these guys had to be good just from the bikes they ride. ;<) I don't mind having a customer watch me work on their bike but I have to draw the line with them trying to "help". All their good intentions usually slow down my work. I think most mechanics would like the company but not so much that it is a distraction to them doing a good job. If the service manager doesn't mind and there is no company policy about customers in the work place, then I think it would be good for all to set back and observe the mechanic working without bothering him/her too much. Anybody ever have a female MC mechanic work on their bike? How come it is usually guys that are doing the work? Fred Hink list administrator *^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^* Join the XRLUG Mailing list www.angelfire.com/ut/xrlug/ *^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^* Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@softhome.net To subscribe/unsubscribe send message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com leave subject blank. In the body of the message type: subscribe/unsubscribe klr650 (or subscribe/unsubscribe klr650-digest). ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 09:57:31 -0500 From: Mark Subject: Re: (klr650) Re: Pikes Peak (NKLR) At 1:52 AM -0500 1/5/00, Cdekmg@aol.com wrote: >I rode my mountain bike up Pikes Peak on the "hiking" trail twice, once to >the 10,000 ft mark SNIP > I think I'd rather ride up the road on the KLR. >Charles >A-14 Best of both worlds....ride up the hiking trail on the KLR. Mark B2 A2 Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@softhome.net To subscribe/unsubscribe send message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com leave subject blank. In the body of the message type: subscribe/unsubscribe klr650 (or subscribe/unsubscribe klr650-digest). ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 10:02:47 -0500 From: Mark Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR valve adjustment I have one Yamaha shim in my Tengai. The local Yam-Kawa-Suz-Polaris dealer didn't have the correct thickness from Kawa, but said the Yams were the same. He exchanged it free for my old shim. Mark B2 A2 At 9:41 PM -0800 1/4/00, billmonahan wrote: >BMW K-bike shims fit the KLR buckets, and believe it or not, are cheaper. >And probably more available. > >Eldon Carl's valve adjustment >> instructions, in the DSN archives, describes all you need to >> know -- with a couple caveats: on late model KLRs (97 or newer, >> perhaps?) you don't have to remove the cam chain tensioner bolt >> and washer; you don't actually have to *remove* the cams -- just >> *lift* them (this can be especially important to first-timers >> intimidated by the thought of getting the cam timing correct >> again); it apparently doesn't matter if you remove the spark plug >> or not (you definitely don't need to remove it to ease >> compression -- the automatic compression release does that). And >> *do* remember to put some clean, lint-free rags around the cam >> sprockets before you drop parts down inside the engine; It is >> said to take two or more strong guys to turn the KLR upside down >> and shake it. Eldon Carl's instructions are found at: >> http://www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page27.html Dealer willingness >> to provide shims at a reasonable cost apparently varies with >> dealer and attitude. Fred has the shims, oil filter and stuff you >> need to do your own servicing -- all at a reasonable cost; >> http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/ A freeware program, >> _shimcalc_, handy for converting .000 to mm (and noticing that >> some old shims may work in new places), is available here: >> http://www.ironjungle.com/ >> >> I'm now gathering information for the first service (6,000 miles) >> on my recently acquired '97 BMW. Don't know what I'd do without >> the Internet! >> >> Verle Nelson (whimsy@gj.net) >> '97 R1100R >> KLR650 A13 >> Cedaredge, CO USA >> >> >> >> Visit the KLR650 archives at >> http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 >> Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@softhome.net >> To subscribe/unsubscribe send message >> to majordomo@lists.xmission.com >> leave subject blank. In the body of the message type: >> subscribe/unsubscribe klr650 (or subscribe/unsubscribe >> klr650-digest). >> >> > > > >Visit the KLR650 archives at >http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 >Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@softhome.net >To subscribe/unsubscribe send message >to majordomo@lists.xmission.com >leave subject blank. In the body of the message type: >subscribe/unsubscribe klr650 (or subscribe/unsubscribe >klr650-digest). Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@softhome.net To subscribe/unsubscribe send message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com leave subject blank. In the body of the message type: subscribe/unsubscribe klr650 (or subscribe/unsubscribe klr650-digest). ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 10:19:04 EST From: TLrydr@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) Re:Crashes NKLR Fellow KLR riders and the rest, I have 34 years in the saddle, Never been a day with out a bike, Unless i was in ICU. We all live and learn, Some crashes make us learn faster, I can not even begain to tell of my crashes, Way to long, Mike Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@softhome.net To subscribe/unsubscribe send message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com leave subject blank. In the body of the message type: subscribe/unsubscribe klr650 (or subscribe/unsubscribe klr650-digest). ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 09:02:04 -0700 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: RE: (klr650) Year > Found a used KLR today. It was built 9/96. The owner of the bike and the > owner of the shop are telling me this bike is a 97 model. Could this be > true? Is some other way to tell besides the ID plate on the > steering head? It is possible Dan. From a practical perspective it might not mean too much as the late '96's and '97's should be identical. The important thing is to look at the title and or papers from the original sale. If the original papers say A10 then the title should say 1996. If the title says it is a '96 it is a '96 and that is the bargaining point. You can check motorcycle consumer news (IMO the best source of pricing) says a '96 is worth $2,785 and a '97 is worth $2,860. On the aftermarket parts you can figure their value by finding out their new price and then cutting that in half. I always sell my used (even like new parts) at 50-60% of new and include shipping. You might call Russell and ask them if they will give you a better price on redoing their seat to your specs. Regards, Kurt Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@softhome.net To subscribe/unsubscribe send message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com leave subject blank. In the body of the message type: subscribe/unsubscribe klr650 (or subscribe/unsubscribe klr650-digest). ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 11:10:06 EST From: LawsonCL@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR Excelsior bancruptcy elcid24@gte.net writes: << Rumor has it that a domestic competitor of Polaris of Victory V92 fame is interested in buying EH. The rejuvinated Super X may survive yet... >> If this means Polaris might buy EH, I'd think it's only to move into the plush digs the EH boys and girl set up for themselves. From everything I've read, the Super X is better off dead. "Feet vibrate off the floorboards at 80 mph...." Absurd for a 90s motorcycle. Chris Lawson Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@softhome.net To subscribe/unsubscribe send message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com leave subject blank. In the body of the message type: subscribe/unsubscribe klr650 (or subscribe/unsubscribe klr650-digest). ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 08:20:06 -0800 From: Tobin Lampson Subject: Re: (klr650) Re:Crashes NKLR TLrydr@aol.com wrote: > > Fellow KLR riders and the rest, > I have 34 years in the saddle, Never been a day with out a bike, Unless i was > in ICU. > We all live and learn, Some crashes make us learn faster, > I can not even begain to tell of my crashes, Way to long, > > Mike Seriously? 34 years? Duuuuuuuuude......@#$%+*.......you gotta have a few that stand out. Maybe one 'Most embarrassing or funniest', one 'Gnarliest', or 'Learned the most from'.......huh? Come on man this stuff is good. Slide (Cal Posse) Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@softhome.net To subscribe/unsubscribe send message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com leave subject blank. In the body of the message type: subscribe/unsubscribe klr650 (or subscribe/unsubscribe klr650-digest). ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 12:04:32 EST From: "Matthew Davis" Subject: Re: (klr650) Re:Crashes NKLR Yes. No offense, but I do get enjoy reading them. Also, probably good for us new riders. - -Matt 1 month KLR650 owner, 1st bike. >From: Tobin Lampson >Reply-To: Tobin Lampson >To: TLrydr@aol.com >CC: klr650@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: (klr650) Re:Crashes NKLR >Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 08:20:06 -0800 > >TLrydr@aol.com wrote: > > > > Fellow KLR riders and the rest, > > I have 34 years in the saddle, Never been a day with out a bike, Unless >i was > > in ICU. > > We all live and learn, Some crashes make us learn faster, > > I can not even begain to tell of my crashes, Way to long, > > > > Mike > >Seriously? 34 years? Duuuuuuuuude......@#$%+*.......you gotta have >a few that stand out. Maybe one 'Most embarrassing or funniest', >one 'Gnarliest', or 'Learned the most from'.......huh? Come on man >this stuff is good. > Slide (Cal Posse) > >Visit the KLR650 archives at >http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 >Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@softhome.net >To subscribe/unsubscribe send message >to majordomo@lists.xmission.com >leave subject blank. In the body of the message type: >subscribe/unsubscribe klr650 (or subscribe/unsubscribe >klr650-digest). > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@softhome.net To subscribe/unsubscribe send message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com leave subject blank. In the body of the message type: subscribe/unsubscribe klr650 (or subscribe/unsubscribe klr650-digest). ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 17:10:19 GMT From: "zootpatutie ." Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR valve adjustment nklr gee, my computer problems are mostly learning about all the stuff i don't have for my bike yet. maybe you can fix mine too. ;) todd A9 > > > > I'm now gathering information for the first service (6,000 miles) > >It is an ugly world out there. I was off line for most of the day today, >and I had the [[[shakes]]] and everything... ;<) Glad to be back. I think >I now have most of my computer problems solved. > >Fred Hink >*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^* >Arrowhead Motorsports >www.arrowheadmotorsports.com >435-259-7356 >Moab, Utah >*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^* > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@softhome.net To subscribe/unsubscribe send message to majordomo@lists.xmission.com leave subject blank. In the body of the message type: subscribe/unsubscribe klr650 (or subscribe/unsubscribe klr650-digest). ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V2 #1280 *****************************