From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V2 #176 Reply-To: klr650 Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Tuesday, March 23 1999 Volume 02 : Number 176 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 20:04:59 -0500 From: "Todd Emsley" Subject: (klr650) Vik's idea Vik suggested: . A lot of us have come up with great ideas, modifications, whatever for our KLRs. If we took the time to document them briefly (a page or so) with some pics digital or print and sent them to Bill Haycock we could really improve the DSN/KLR webpage. The upside would be a newbie to the list could check out info there without having to ask. Could we get a quick yea/nea on this great idea. If I could get to see pictures of all the people I have been writing to and learning from, it would be worth it to me to scan a picture and write about myself as well. Great idea Vik. Since I live 5 miles from the Atlantic Coast, getting to Moab to meet is a little tough for me. Todd A11 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 20:28:15 -0500 From: "Stephen Rivett" Subject: (klr650) NKLR: 2x2,not really dualsport http://www.4wdonline.com/Motorbikes/Rokon.2x2.html If it was only a little bit faster :) Stephen Rivett ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Mar 99 17:33:30 PST From: "alyef@iname.com" Subject: (klr650) UV Protection NKLR I was curious about UV protection while wearing my Shoei. I found their = web site and zipped off some mail. The answer is below. - ---------- > Date: Tuesday, March 23, 1999 10:55:27 > From: SHOEICORP@aol.com > To: Alex > Subject: UV Protection > > Dear Alex, > > All Shoei shields offer UVA and UVB protection. The percentage is > approximately 99.9% > > > Best Regards, > Shoei > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 18:37:50 -0700 From: "Vik Banerjee" Subject: Re: (klr650) UV Protection NKLR My understanding is that polycarbonates (your face shield and many sports wrap around sunglasses) provide excellent UV protection without any special coatings. Cheers, Vik - -----Original Message----- From: alyef@iname.com To: klr Date: Tuesday, March 23, 1999 6:40 PM Subject: (klr650) UV Protection NKLR I was curious about UV protection while wearing my Shoei. I found their web site and zipped off some mail. The answer is below. - ---------- > Date: Tuesday, March 23, 1999 10:55:27 > From: SHOEICORP@aol.com > To: Alex > Subject: UV Protection > > Dear Alex, > > All Shoei shields offer UVA and UVB protection. The percentage is > approximately 99.9% > > > Best Regards, > Shoei > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 20:44:41 EST From: FTabor231@aol.com Subject: (klr650) sprocket storage I've been looking for a way to store a rear sprocket and it reared up and bit me today. a rear sprocket can be bolted to the top rear passenger foot rest mounting bolt. The center of the sprocket goes over the folding footrest, push the welded wire boot guard in just a little and use a longer allen bolt with some washers as needed and the sprocket mounts just as if it was supposed to be there. The mini compressor is now up and running too. It took 9 minutes to inflate a completely flat front tire to 38 lbs of pressure. It's mounted inside the front fairing just above the headlite. the hose sticks through the R/H side of the fairing just behind the turnsignal stalk where it is clamped to a brass nipple. A hose clamp could be installed on both sides of the plastic fairing to hold the nipple in place more securely while installing the hose when needed. The toggle switch is just in front of the turnsignal stalk. I keep the 6 foot hose in the tour trunk until needed, which will probably be never now that it is there. A worn sprocket story on the list this past weekend reminded me to finish the search for a secure sprocket storage spot. frank ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Mar 99 17:53:18 PST From: "alyef@iname.com" Subject: (klr650) Longevity > c. cam and balancer chains, balancer idler shaft and bearing are change= d every > 33,000 > miles Okay, is the procedure documented on the web site? > Eldon adds, "The two biggest problems in the KLR650 engine are the crud= e chain > driven > counter balancer mechanics and the huge counter weight loads put on the > balancer shaft > bearings especially at high RPM's. Weird design. If the counter weight is put on the crank shaft, then the = bearing loads are reduced at all RPMs producing longer bearing life. Go = figure! Probably, space/cost constraints forced the design. Alex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 21:16:51 +0000 From: Jeffrey Doyle Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR-"Tired" and curious... > And now the $10,000 question... I know there's a "cardinal direction" > for the tires when mounting but is there any certain part that's > required to be over, say, the valve stem? I've heard some folks mention > this in the past, just wondering... > > Any advice you might have regarding this matter would be much > appreciated. And the sooner the better, as I plan on tackling this > tomorrow (sorry so late transmitting, but Hotmail's been giving me fits- > you get what you pay for...). Thanks in advance, > > Juan Villarreal, '97 KLR > "The Happy Hooligan" Juan, I agree with what Fred said about the tire installation and just use something like liquid dishwater soap to lube the tire bead. It washes off easy when you're done. I've only changed about a 1/2 dozen tires myself but found that putting a bead in the rim, then the tube, and then the other bead worked best. Jeff A2 v > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 21:30:10 +0000 From: Jeffrey Doyle Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR - Shoei helmet info Eric Jasniewicz wrote: > > Well I just received my brand spankin' new RF800 today. Cool lid! Lotso > padding, much more so than my ancient GRV. > > Shoei has a new model called the Syncrotech, another flip-top lid like the > Nolan N100. They are shown at www.motodepot.com and www.accwhse.com Oh yes, I've got the RFR and I think it's great but when I saw my neighbor's RF800 I was impressed. One thing I noticed about the shield though is that you have to be discrete with the kind of sunglasses you use because things can look pretty funky with certain lenses (like Polaroid). Jeff A2 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 21:37:14 -0500 From: Tim Bootle Subject: Re: (klr650) [NKLR] blood in a parking lot "Stevens, Greig (CALBBAY)" wrote: > I wear a Dri-Rider Thunderbolt when on the road which has a removable > thermal lining so I can wear it all year round. Since you are going to > purchase motorport gear I take it that you believe this style of jacket > doesn't offer enough protection. > Thanks for the response. I'm sorry to hear about the horrible accident in which your friends were involved. As for the suit you mention, I'm not familiar with it. I've looked at Aerostich, Joe Rocket, FieldSheer, Motoport and Tourmaster. Is there a web site for the Dri-Rider? I did not find anything in the archives. Thanks, -Tim ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 13:36:56 +1000 From: Ted Palmer Subject: Re: (klr650) UV Protection NKLR alyef@iname.com forwarded: > > Dear Alex, > > > > All Shoei shields offer UVA and UVB protection. The percentage is > > approximately 99.9% Thanks for that Alex. So that's the official word? That's a pretty confident statement from Shoei coming from the land of litigation. I had noticed Shoei used to advertise the UV resistance in a few ads in magazines here in Oz, and I always wondered whether other Shoei models did the same UV thing. In a sunburnt land like Australia, you'd think that UV protection like this would be a major selling point, yet Shoei doesn't make more of it, nor other helmet makers mention it at all. Mister_T ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 13:45:38 +1000 From: Ted Palmer Subject: Re: (klr650) UV Protection NKLR Vik Banerjee wrote: > My understanding is that polycarbonates (your face shield and many sports > wrap around sunglasses) provide excellent UV protection without any special > coatings. I've suffered my fair share of red noses after a long day's ride in my time, so I guess not all visors are created equal. A bottle of sun cream is a standard content in the Gearsack bags for both my bikes these days. Being bit a sceptic myself, I've often wondered about the UV transmission of my many visors, and how I could test for myself their ability to stop UV, especially my tinted visors. Tinted visors that don't stop UV are worse than equivalent clear visors. Mister_T ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 19:26:02 -0800 From: Mike Magier Subject: Re: (klr650) Tool List Thanks for the tip, Fred. My Internet provider lets me use I think 3-4 MB of space for a web page - I just haven't gotten around to using it for anything yet. On another note - I REALLY would like to get a useful list of tools to bring. Like I said, I currently have everything INCLUDING the kitchen sink in there, but it's bigger than I'd like. I'm afraid to do aggressive turns because I'll drag toolbax before I drag pegs. If I can get rid of some of the stuff in there it would help a lot. What do you bring tool-wise on long trips? This might make an interesting thread. Mike Magier (OK - I cant' pick up the ST until Friday . . .GROAN . . .) - ---------- Fred the WebMeister wrote: > >Hey Mikey!!......Try it, you'll like it!!! > >I would highly recommend Angelfire or Geo Cities. There are a thousand >different free places to make web pages. They are fun to do and if you need >any help let me know. > >Web Meister Fred (I am not "the" expert but I pretend to be) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 19:30:50 -0800 From: Mike Magier Subject: Re: (klr650) sprocket storage OK Frank - we all want DETAILS! What compressor did you use that is small enough to mount there? How did you wire it? How is it mounted? Pics would be nice, of course. Mike Magier (not long-winded enough to inflate my tires) - ---------- > From: FTabor231@aol.com > To: KLR650 List > Subject: (klr650) sprocket storage > Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 20:44:41 EST > >The mini compressor is now up and running too. It took 9 minutes to inflate a >completely flat front tire to 38 lbs of pressure. It's mounted inside the >front fairing just above the headlite. the hose sticks through the R/H side of >the fairing just behind the turnsignal stalk where it is clamped to a brass >nipple. A hose clamp could be installed on both sides of the plastic fairing >to hold the nipple in place more securely while installing the hose when >needed. The toggle switch is just in front of the turnsignal stalk. I keep the >6 foot hose in the tour trunk until needed, which will probably be never now >that it is there. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 22:45:21 EST From: DOUGUR@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR Hauling in truck In a message dated 3/22/99 10:17:46 AM Central Standard Time, moabmc@lasal.net writes: << You can use a piece of 2X4 under the fender and on top of the tire. This will allow you to compress the tire and not the springs when you cinch down your bike. Or you can use a world >> Fred, I dont quite follow what to do with the 2X4, do you attach the tie downs to the 2x4-- what holds it in place. I will be hauling mine on a 4-wheeler trailer occasionally. Thanks, Doug. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 20:43:47 -0700 From: "Skip Faulkner" Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR Pannier Info >Skip, > >Try here: > >http://privat.schlund.de/c/carlo/panniers.htm > >I have built my three in one sidebox/top box combo and am having it powder >coated as we speak. It looks awesome and big! I'll post some pics by this >weekend. >Cheers, > >Vik Thanks Vik, that`s the one. Skip ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 20:52:11 -0700 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: Re: (klr650) Tool List |On another note - I REALLY would like to get a useful list of tools to |bring. Like I said, I currently have everything INCLUDING the kitchen sink |in there, but it's bigger than I'd like. I'm afraid to do aggressive turns |because I'll drag toolbax before I drag pegs. If I can get rid of some of |the stuff in there it would help a lot. What do you bring tool-wise on long |trips? This might make an interesting thread. Well I guess anyone can start...from the toolkit and supplements: 1. wrenches...8, 10, 12, 14, 15, 17, and then whatever I need for the axle nuts...I ditched the stock nuts and bought some nylocs from DualStar that don't require pins...the stock tool kit does not have a wrench for the front axle nut. 2. 2 tire irons + 1 tire iron combo rear axle nut wrench, 2 plastic rim protectors 3. A spare front tube standard grade... 4. a nice kit from Dualstar that has a small ratchet with 8, 10, 12 sockets, 3 or 4 allen wrench bits, and 2 phillips and 2 flat screw bits...I added a 6 inch flexible extension. 5. needle nose vice grip 6. 6 C02 cartridges and mini-cartridge pump thingee (what the hell is it called Fred?) 7. the screwdriver blade from the toolkit and spark plug remover 8. Leatherman 9. Clean-up wipes, handi-wipes Spares: I carry a length of wire, electricians vinyl tape, a bunch of plastic ties in different sizes. I need to develop an assortment of nuts and bolts....rear master stay, plastic thingee that goes into the rear master cylinder What others carry: Jake Jakeman carries a chain splitter, chain tool and additional links... I'm sure I've missed something Ajax ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 20:54:08 -0700 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR Hauling in truck |<< You can use a piece of 2X4 under the | fender and on top of the tire. This will allow you to compress the tire and | not the springs when you cinch down your bike. Or you can use a world >> | |Fred, | |I dont quite follow what to do with the 2X4, do you attach the tie downs to |the 2x4-- what holds it in place. I will be hauling mine on a 4-wheeler |trailer occasionally. | Doug, it is held down by the compressed springs...it fits between the top of the tire and the bottom of the fender so the springs can't compress any further...that is the main thing with tieing it down the springs have to be fully compressed or lodged against something like the 2X4 or Fred's magic thingee... Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 21:00:03 -0700 From: "Fred Hink" Subject: Re: (klr650) Tool List - -----Original Message----- From: Mike Magier To: Fred Hink ; KLR650 List Date: Tuesday, March 23, 1999 1:27 PM Subject: Re: (klr650) Tool List >On another note - I REALLY would like to get a useful list of tools to >bring. What do you bring tool-wise on long >trips? This might make an interesting thread. I think the biggest tip I can think of is to keep your bike up in shape before something breaks. I replace my bike every three or four years to keep it fresh. Seems like it is everyone else that breaks down or has flat tires. So I carry tools for other folks most of the time. I carry the OEM tool kit, three tire irons, moto pump and extra Co2 cartridges, an extra 21" regular tube, patch kit, Leatherman, tow strap, some zip ties, first aid kit, food and water of course, jacket or long sleeve shirt, note pad and pen, matches, Quiksteel, extra B8ES for the 2 stokes that I find out in the boonies with a fouled spark plug. Like I said if you go over your bike thoroughly before you ride most times it won't let you down. The OEM tool kit will give you a good idea of what the factory thinks are your necessities. If you take upgraded versions of this you should be in good shape. Fred ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 23:01:22 -0500 From: "Stephen Rivett" Subject: (klr650) NKLR: Darien Gap I think I may be the only one, but I'm against the Panamerican Highway going through the Darien Gap. Anyway, since I plan to take a trip through it some time, I need some help. Does anybody know about any books/websites that deal with building bridges, canoes, and rafts? I'm hoping to use wooden pegs instead of rope and nails if at all possible. Gonna be quite the trip, it took 741 days for the first jeep to make it with only water crossings and no water travel. Sure would be nice if somebody made those solid wheels for a KLR650 or 640 Adventure, an extra 9 gallons would come in handy. http://www.outbackofbeyond.com has some interesting reads. Stephen Rivett oh yeah, can the KLR650 be left on its side for long periods of time? Possibly upside down too... ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V2 #176 ****************************