From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V2 #222 Reply-To: klr650 Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Friday, April 2 1999 Volume 02 : Number 222 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 19:58:59 -0700 From: "Bruce Hedquist" Subject: Re: (klr650) 1999 Tiger (NKLR) Unfortunately, no test rides allowed by this >dealership. Gino, you must be talking about MotorSport. By the way, some time back you mentioned the Suzuki SV650. Did you get to ride that one? I am getting more intrigued by every article I read. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 22:32:54 EST From: FTabor231@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) Fw: Shop Maintenance - The Horror of it all - NKLR In a message dated 4/2/99 11:55:02 AM Central Standard Time, marbach@nucleus.com writes: << They also measured how many miles, if any, the bike was >test ridden after servicing. Some did as little as 1 mile. >> Guys and lassies, there are many reasons a dealer does not want to ride a persons bike. accidents, alleged scratches of cutom bags, readjustment of controls, etc. We live in a litigious society and its dangerous to ride someone else's bike. Dynos can help with tuneup testing, but handeling issues are tough to address. It sounds like a lot of listers are getting cheated, I would bet that those business tactics are prevalent in most businesses in your areas. I owned a big multiline dealership and can tell you, Kawasaki Motorcycle Co did not condone shoddy treatment of its customers and went out of its way more than BMW or Moto Guzzi to honor a questionable warranty. frank ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 19:38:50 -0800 (PST) From: KLR650@webtv.net (Conall O'Brien) Subject: (klr650) KLR650 Windscreen Hello listers, Just picked up my KLR from its 60000 mile check up. While at the Kawi dealer I discovered that Kawasaki is now offering a extended windscreen for the KLR. Part # K46001-085 Price-?? It is very good looking, somewhat like the clearview. 4 inches taller and 4 inches wider than stock. Tinted and made from scratch resistant polycarbonate, uses the stock windscreens' 3-hole mounts for a secure fit. Also saw a pix ot Kawi's soft luggage support- WHAT A JOKE. They have have obviously never seen Drivelines excellent supports. My next post will be about the service check-up so hold on to your horses. Conall ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 22:42:33 EST From: FTabor231@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) My Own Valve Adjustment In a message dated 4/2/99 4:12:34 PM Central Standard Time, kaub@epix.net writes: << The service manager commented that the shims should be installed with the numbers down. The original shims were installed this way >> You are right, primarily to prserve the etched sizing numbers and its probably hardened on the other side for lobe contact. frank ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 22:45:40 EST From: FTabor231@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) Warranty Question In a message dated 4/2/99 4:25:59 PM Central Standard Time, bcp@home.com writes: << Will a local dealer be willing to do warranty work or will they grudgingly do it, pissed that I bought the bike elsewhere? >> Brian, the warranty is for 1 year to whoever owns it as long as the required services can be verified. also you can buy the 24 or 36 month extensions from the dealer. That would be a good incentive to be of service. The truth is that the dealer doesn't make that much on this kind of bike. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 22:57:50 EST From: FTabor231@aol.com Subject: Re: Fw: (klr650) KLR "Tricks of the Trade" In a message dated 4/2/99 7:05:12 PM Central Standard Time, ajax@xmission.com writes: << think my english is not enough to understand. and i wanna ask what is |"progressive springs" is it another fork (not stock) or a style that use |prefer? >> Gurol, your English is pretty good, welcome! Progressive is a brand of after-market springs and accessories for motorcycles. The Progressive spring is made to compress at a firmer rate as it nears full compression. You remove your stock springs and replace them with the new ones, some people also change their fork oil to a heavier weight and add a little extra. The air valves are a mystery. No one really knows why they are on the bike. The manual says not to use any air, but owners that have experimented with a bicycle air pump have found increased springing with 4-12 pounds of air. Ask anything you have question about, we'll all figure out something for anyone with a need. frank ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 22:39:16 EST From: FTabor231@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) trials and tribulations In a message dated 4/2/99 3:52:04 PM Central Standard Time, cosmo_bojinski@hotmail.com writes: << Any feedback is appreciated,will search the archives, thanks,....cosmo >> The beauty of chain drive! Gear it how you need it.....and cheap too. frank ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 20:42:07 -0800 From: "Arne Larsen" Subject: Re: (klr650) Digital cameras (NKLR, non-dualsport) I just bought the new Sony digital 8 camcorder that is also capable of taking digital snapshots. Haven't tried the snapshot function yet but the video version is awesome. 500 lines resolution, 1 lux in normal mode (0 lux in infra-red/night-vision mode), 20x optical zoom and (get this), 360x digital zoom (Gino, stop that, I can see what you're doing). Technically though, I don't think it should be called a "full" digital camera, as the recording media is still analog (it uses a high 8 tape, but runs it at double speed so it can store more info without over-saturation). On the other hand, does this really matter when what counts is the final result? With the purchase of an optional cable, there is the ability to direct-link it to a computer. You can also get an info-lithium battery for it that will give you a full ten hours of recording time (great for week-end trips). Arne - ----- Original Message ----- From: Pokluda, Gino F To: ; Sent: Friday, April 02, 1999 7:24 AM Subject: (klr650) Digital cameras (NKLR, non-dualsport) > Okay, I know I asked this before, but now I'm ready to buy. > > What are everyone's thoughts on digital cameras. Anyone have good > experience with a certain model? > > Gino ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 21:42:07 From: Guy Cheney Subject: (klr650) Mime-Version: 1.0 I saw a new one in the lot at Hayward Kawasaki last week and one in Kawasaki of Oakland's showroom last weekend. At 05:36 PM 4/2/99 -0800, you wrote: >>I was at the dealership today (R&S Kawasaki in Albuquerque, NM) and they >have >>sold a record number of KLR's for 1999. They are sold out. They have >>scoured the southwest and the supply is dwindling rapidly. Sales manager >>estimated that there are fewer than 8 in the AZ, NM, TX, CO, WY, OK, CA area >>to be had. > > >Well, for what it's worth, at a dealer here in Orange County, CA I know for >a fact that 2 weeks ago there were 3 new ones parked out on the lot... > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 21:50:41 -0700 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: Re: (klr650) HELP!! - Valve adjust problems >success. The first question came up when I was removing the upper engine bracket. On the left half of the >bracket, there's a piece of metal connected to the bottom bolt, it seems like a curved retainer of some kind. >Anyone know what this is for? It is simply a stop for the bolt it lips into a part of the engine so it can't turn and you can turn the bolt on the bracket... >OK - the other problems are tougher. >When I was turning the crankshaft to get to TDC, What was the sequence here? Valve cover off? Had you touched the cam chain tensioner or not? Which direction were you rotating? >I felt resistance suddenly increase, then "snap" forward. I assumed this had something to do with the KACR, so I tried to continue. This sensation >continued, and I found that the cam chain was slipping on the intake camshaft gear. I stopped and regrouped. Again which direction and had you loosened something already? Tell me this much first... Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 23:49:03 EST From: Cloudhid@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR650 Windscreen On 4/2/99, KLR650@webtv.net writes: snip >Kawasaki is now offering a extended windscreen >for the KLR. Part # K46001-085 Price-?? $69.95 according to an article in the May issue of Rider. It's one of the mods showcased on their klr project bike. Anyone try it yet? Redondo Ron A10 (with a stock windscreen) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 99 20:57:01 PST From: "Marick Payton" Subject: (klr650) here a markie, there a markie . . . Kurt wrote: "Marick's trip with Helge is 36 markies before the panniers..." Fur gawd's sake, Kurt, keep it down! Don't want the wife to hear I'm blowing 36 perfectly good markies on a damn motorcycle trip. Actually, tho, she's for it, figuring there's a much better chance I'll come back whole if I go with people who've been there before and presumably know what they are doing. We saw Helge's magnificant show together and she was dutifully impressed. I keep asking myself why I'm paying this much. Didn't sound so bad to be paying $5K-something to PVMT, which includes shipping bike to Chili, hotels and most main meals, plus, of course, the planning and guiding the actual ride. But, add airfare to Santiago at $1K plus, another $1k almost for me to get the darned bike to Houston (or is that San Antonio), plus misc expenses, and purty soon it adds up to real money. Tell me more about your plans, Frank. I've only got $300 committed so far. Marick ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 21:13:29 -0800 (PST) From: KLR650@webtv.net (Conall O'Brien) Subject: (klr650) Re:Speedo Cable problem My speedo has stopped working 2 or 3 times. On two occasions the cable broke, then the drive unit gave out (dealer replacement quote about $55-60). BTW I diagnosed the problem by attaching a power drill to turn the speedocable while the cable was attached to the speedo-volla- meter turned, bad drive unit. I know that the drive unit is bad and I once had a mechanic at the local Kawi/Honda/Harley Boutique dealership tell me the speedometer was bad. I stopped going there for repairs and go somewhwere else now. Sorry for ramblin but sometimes it's good to test your potential mechanic to see if he has your best interests in mind. ( of course I wasn't really "testing him" , I just wanted it fixed). Conall Fremont Ca. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 21:16:09 -0800 From: "Arne Larsen" Subject: Re: (klr650) Digital cameras (NKLR, non-dualsport) No problem. When I try the still option (the real test will be downloading the still to the computer where I can get a good look at it) I'll let the list know. Arne - ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Gaines To: Arne Larsen Sent: Friday, April 02, 1999 9:01 PM Subject: RE: (klr650) Digital cameras (NKLR, non-dualsport) > Sounds very interesting. I have been looking at dig cameras and was > wondering why they would not be good for stills also. I would like to know > how the snapshots work out for you if you wouldn't mind drooping me a MSG > after you get a chance to try it. > > Robert > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Arne Larsen > Sent: Friday, April 02, 1999 10:42 PM > To: Pokluda, Gino F; dust@dorje.com; klr650@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: (klr650) Digital cameras (NKLR, non-dualsport) > > I just bought the new Sony digital 8 camcorder that is also capable of > taking digital snapshots. Haven't tried the snapshot function yet but the > video version is awesome. 500 lines resolution, 1 lux in normal mode (0 lux > in infra-red/night-vision mode), 20x optical zoom and (get this), 360x > digital zoom (Gino, stop that, I can see what you're doing). Technically > though, I don't think it should be called a "full" digital camera, as the > recording media is still analog (it uses a high 8 tape, but runs it at > double speed so it can store more info without over-saturation). On the > other hand, does this really matter when what counts is the final result? > With the purchase of an optional cable, there is the ability to direct-link > it to a computer. You can also get an info-lithium battery for it that will > give you a full ten hours of recording time (great for week-end trips). > > Arne > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Pokluda, Gino F > To: ; > Sent: Friday, April 02, 1999 7:24 AM > Subject: (klr650) Digital cameras (NKLR, non-dualsport) > > > > Okay, I know I asked this before, but now I'm ready to buy. > > > > What are everyone's thoughts on digital cameras. Anyone have good > > experience with a certain model? > > > > Gino > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 00:18:06 EST From: OlZorro@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) RE:Levi's bootcut (NKLR) In a message dated 4/1/99 10:48:11 PM Pacific Standard Time, ripkid@gateway.net writes: << One note here is that I can't wear my usual tapered leg jeans with this boot. I had to buy the loose cut Levi's that gave extra room at the ankle. Can you believe they stopped making the boot cut? What about all those cowboys? >> Neh, neh. Bootcut levi's are available on the internet through levi's.com and PriceScan.com. Here in So. California (where geezers ride 300+ days per year) they can be had at Miller's outpost-Brea and, would you believe, Sears! And get this, they retail for $46.00, which is outrageous, but Sears has em on sale for $23.99! Just got a pair myself. John Paul Gray Dana Point CA 94 ST1100 95 KLR650 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 21:23:33 -0800 (PST) From: KLR650@webtv.net (Conall O'Brien) Subject: (klr650) Re: 99 KLR soldout? Just a reminder Diablo Kawasaki-BMW in Geek Creek (Walnut Creek Ca) has a "99 KLR for $4850 out the door. Only one-Better hurry! 925-938-8373 Tell 'em you heard it on the KLR list. (Let's hear it for Kurt- hip hip hooray! ) Conall (just don't test ride a F650 while your there) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 00:19:57 +0000 From: Tom Simpson Subject: Re: Fw: (klr650) KLR "Tricks of the Trade" At 10:57 PM 4/2/99 EST, FTabor231@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 4/2/99 7:05:12 PM Central Standard Time, ajax@xmission.com >writes: > ><< think my english is not enough to understand. and i wanna ask what is > |"progressive springs" is it another fork (not stock) or a style that use > |prefer? >> >Gurol, your English is pretty good, welcome! >Progressive is a brand of after-market springs and accessories for >motorcycles. The Progressive spring is made to compress at a firmer rate as >it nears full compression. You remove your stock springs and replace them >with the new ones, some people also change their fork oil to a heavier weight >and add a little extra. >The air valves are a mystery. No one really knows why they are on the bike. >The manual says not to use any air, but owners that have experimented with a >bicycle air pump have found increased springing with 4-12 pounds of air. >Ask anything you have question about, we'll all figure out something for >anyone with a need. frank Hydraulic forks manage to draw in small amounts of air as they operate and "pump up" over time. The valves are to let out the excess air pressure that builds up. To clarify a bit, the word "progressive" is used to describe a type of coil spring that has increasing resistance as it is compressed, while a standard coil spring provides constant resistance as it is compressed. The word "progressive" is also part of the name of a US company, Progressive Suspention, that makes progresive-type replacement springs for motorcycles. They make a model that fits the KLR 650 and it is the single biggest improvement you can make to the bikes suspention for the least amount of money. If this is redundant, I apologise. Welcome aboard, Gurol! - -Tom '96 KLR 650 ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V2 #222 ****************************