From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V2 #238 Reply-To: klr650 Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Tuesday, April 6 1999 Volume 02 : Number 238 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:05:23 -0400 From: Mike Ratta Subject: RE: (klr650) Shim Bank... Fred can get shims that cheap? Last time I went to a dealer I was quotes some ungodly figure. My guess is those were kawi OEM and these are aftermarket? - -----Original Message----- From: Mark [mailto:mjv2@psu.edu] Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 1:47 PM To: KLR650-List Subject: Re: (klr650) Shim Bank... This is why I ordered a dozen shims from Fred last month. At three buck a piece, it's good insurance for avoiding downtime. Andres took six with him ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 13:33:55 -0400 From: Mark Subject: Re: (klr650) Bicycle speedometers on motorcycles Mike wrote: >>Does anyone out there have a favorite model that has good accuracy? Mine is >>5mph off at 35 and like 15mph off at ~90. At 9:20 AM -0700 4/6/99, Arne Larsen wrote: >I would think that because it registers speed based on electrical impulses >each time it's triggered, that wheel spin speed would not be a factor. >Unless maybe you were travelling at the speed of sound. I would think that >it just needs to be calibrated accurately. Don't you measure the distance >of one exact wheel rotation then enter that figure? Make ten rotations and >divide by 10 for even more accuracy. > >Arne > Cheap models might have and internal electronic error, but I think it's also important to have a very accurate measurement of the radius to the magnet. I think that error can be reduced by moving the magnet farther from center (i.e., on the rim). Therefore, inaccuracy in radius measurement becomes less of a percent error. Mark B2 A2 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:23:03 -0600 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR - Kermit chair >SNIP>The best features of Kermit's chair are fantastic workmanship, >>light weight (5lbs.), and broke down size.(fits in 4in wide canvas bag about >>24 in. long. >> >>Bill Wright >>Hotlanta, GA. >>98 KLR650 - "Special K" - 23,200 miles and...the big question? how many markies does it cost? Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:57:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Juan Villarreal Subject: (klr650) Let it bleed? Fellow listers: Will those of you who have done the brake line conversion give me the skinny on the ease or difficulty of the project? I would especially like to hear from the novices or mechanically challenged. How good are the instructions? If I decide to go through with it, I plan on buying a pair of speed bleeders to help with the process. It's kind of a tough decision for me because it would be easy for me to leave things well enough alone, but then it would also be nice to have that increase in feel and tension. I remember reading some postings a ways back about the treacherous nature of the reservoir screws for the front brake. Did someone have a problem with those or am I just making it up? Did that person end up switching to different screws? If so, which ones? Please bring me up to speed on both points, as right now I feel like an eight year kid staring down from the high dive. Thanks in advance... Juan Villarreal, '97 KLR "The Ambivalent Hooligan" _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 13:37:43 -0600 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: (klr650) Fw: DualStar page >I have just finished making a DualStar Sub-directory page for the Dual >Sport news Web Site. >http://www.dualsport.org/dualstar > >it is also on the Dual Sport Web Site in two places. > >Bill ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:03:23 -0700 From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" Subject: (klr650) Re: NKLR Time - -----Original Message----- From: Arne Larsen To: Jeff & Lisa Walker ; KLR650 Page Date: Monday, April 05, 1999 11:41 PM Subject: NKLR Time >> BTW, check your clock in your computer. I think you're running aroun 10 >> minutes fast as I am receiving your messages 10 minutes before they've >been >> written. >> >> Arne >> > > >Belay this. I just received my own message tagged at 11:48, when I know I >sent it at 11:35. The List time must be out. > >Arne > I was 440 seconds fast, according to my "atomtime" freeware, it matches the computer clock online to the atomic clock in Boulder, CO. Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 18:40:15 EDT From: VFR754@aol.com Subject: (klr650) Pipe Re-Packing Does anybody know if there's a difference between fiberglass silencer packing, and fiberglass insulation for a house? I've got a bunch of the house stuff leftover, and was wondering if I could use it to pack my pipes on the bikes.........Doesn't look much different than the stuff in the KDX's pipe...... Bill S. A12 "Moose" Montgomery, IL. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:10:31 -0700 From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" Subject: Re: (klr650) Bicycle speedometers on motorcycles >Does anyone out there have a favorite model that has good accuracy? Mine is >5mph off at 35 and like 15mph off at ~90. I think the unit isnt fast >enough.. its meant for placement at the end of the spoke so it makes slower >rotations. I've had to mount it lower on the brake rotor. Time to replace it >with something that works. someone here said to avoid wireless units before, >which is a shame since it would make life with inverted forks easier. >Comments and suggestions welcome. > Seems to me I had one on my mountain bike that was programmable/ adjustable for the wheel size. I never needed to do this, because it was spot on out of the box. I know what you mean about the wire, because mine got ripped out in some serious brush, and I never bothered to replace it. Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:54:08 -0700 From: Tom Myers Subject: Re: (klr650) Bicycle speedometers on motorcycles I had trouble with one once. I crashed in a stream and never saw it again. Tom +------------------------------------+ | CycoActive Products tel (206) 323-2349 | 701 34th Ave fax (206) 325-6016 | Seattle, WA 98122 USA | webpage: http://www.cycoactive.com | e-mail: TomMyers@cycoactive.com +------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:39:32 -0700 From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" Subject: Re: (klr650) Let it bleed? >Will those of you who have done the brake line >conversion give me the skinny on the ease or >difficulty of the project? I would especially >like to hear from the novices or mechanically >challenged. How good are the instructions? If I >decide to go through with it, I plan on buying a >pair of speed bleeders to help with the process. >It's kind of a tough decision for me because it >would be easy for me to leave things well enough >alone, but then it would also be nice to have >that increase in feel and tension. > The speed bleeders would have been nice when I did it, probably would have saved some fluid too, not that a lot is used. >I remember reading some postings a ways back >about the treacherous nature of the reservoir >screws for the front brake. Did someone have a >problem with those or am I just making it up? >Did that person end up switching to different >screws? If so, which ones? > The screws are easily replacable, and yes I did have to use an "easy out" on the striped head of the philips screw. Another trick is to use the right size screw driver, then clamp onto the screw driver with some vice grips, push down as hard as you can with one hand, and torque with the vice grips. Anyway, I replace the stock screws with some stainless, hardened screws. Bear in mind that mine is an '89, and the screws were rusted. Shouldn't be a problem for you. I would use the vice grips anyway, to ensure that you don't mess up the screw head. Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:45:41 -0700 From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" Subject: (klr650) HELP! I lost my keys! Has anyone had to deal with replacing lost keys on the KLR? The dealer said that all they could provide me with was the blank. The locksmith said that unless I could come up with some numbers on the lock, I'd have to bring the lock assembly in so they could try to make an imprint. I'm so screwed. I always throw my keys and gloves into my helmet when I come home. Over the weekend, I noticed that my helmet had been moved, and my two year old's dolly was in my helmet, and the keys are NOWHERE! Today was such a nice day to ride too...mid sixties, nice and sunny and no wind, and my bike was the only transportation I had this morning....and NO KEYS! OK, OK, I'll calm down....There must be a solution....List PLEASE? Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:23:03 -0600 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR - Kermit chair >SNIP>The best features of Kermit's chair are fantastic workmanship, >>light weight (5lbs.), and broke down size.(fits in 4in wide canvas bag about >>24 in. long. >> >>Bill Wright >>Hotlanta, GA. >>98 KLR650 - "Special K" - 23,200 miles and...the big question? how many markies does it cost? Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 20:00:43 -0400 From: Stuart Heaslet Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR - Kermit chair At 01:03 PM 4/6/99 -0400, Mark wrote: >SNIP>The best features of Kermit's chair are fantastic workmanship, >>light weight (5lbs.), and broke down size.(fits in 4in wide canvas bag about >>24 in. long. >While we're on the topic of folding items, does anyone have that folding >step-stool from Sporty's Pilot Shop? (Skip?) I was thinking that it would >be a great KLR travel item. It folds flat, looks strong and could be used >as a chair & possibly double as a lift stand. Mark, My guess is that the pre-flight step is rated somewhere around 250 lbs., plus some design slop. The top plate is small, and I would be a little nervous using it for a bike stand. Stuart A12 Juno Beach, FL ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 23:50:10 +0000 From: Sarah Barwig Subject: Re: NKLR(klr650) HELP! I lost my keys! child psychology > I'm so screwed. I always throw my keys and gloves into my helmet when I > come home. Over the weekend, I noticed that my helmet had been moved, and > my two year old's dolly was in my helmet, and the keys are NOWHERE! Ask the kiddo? Show her another similar set of keys, make them jingle and ask if she can find you some just like them somewhere in the house. Kids love tasks like that. Especially if you give them ice cream at the end... - -- Sarah Barwig Developer WeddingChannel.com (213) 599-4144 888 S. Figueroa St., Suite 700 Los Angeles, CA, 90017 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:55:20 EDT From: FTabor231@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) Bicycle speedometers on motorcycles The magnet can be anywhere that works. You can drill a small hole in your rear sprocket and screw it in place and double side tape the pickup on the top of the swing arm and use the rear tire circumference for seting your computer. A bicycle speedo doesnt have to be off because it can be recalibrated using the instruction that it came with. I usually mount my speedo on the rear wheel because I can put the bike on a stand for inside training and still use the computer. Yes, you may have to lengthen the wire. frank ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 00:32:22 +0000 From: Sarah Barwig Subject: Re: (klr650) Bicycle speedometers on motorcycles > I usually mount my > speedo on the rear wheel because I can put the bike on a stand for inside > training and still use the computer. Wow! Do you have a whole VR setup with a screen and it looks just like you're in Moab? How does it handle the lean? Pretty nifty stand, eh wot? Sarah - -- Sarah Barwig Developer WeddingChannel.com (213) 599-4144 888 S. Figueroa St., Suite 700 Los Angeles, CA, 90017 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 18:58:04 -0600 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: Re: (klr650) HELP! I lost my keys! | |OK, OK, I'll calm down....There must be a solution....List PLEASE? | put it in the truck and take it down to the locksmith...I've had to do this on a bunch of beater bikes I've purchased...never cost more than $15...than have him make you about 5 extras.... Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 18:59:55 -0600 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: Re: (klr650) Let it bleed? |The screws are easily replacable, and yes I did have to use an "easy out" on |the striped head of the philips screw If memory serves they are the same size as the float bowl screws...I had a bunch of Jake Jakeman's magic screws (stainless allen-head) and used two on the reservoir.... Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:02:48 -0600 From: " Skip Faulkner" Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR Bears >Three bear stories: The first was told to me by the NCOIC of the Northern >Warfare School in Alaska. Once on a patrol they found the carcass of a >Kodiak bear. They rolled it over, and were surprised to find a dead man >pinned under the bear, still clutching the Ruger Blackhawk he used to kill >the bear. Shitty way to go. I lived in a Bush village 480 air miles NW of Anchorage for 10 years. I owned a guide service and trading post. Because of my various activities (hunting, fishing,trapping and hiking etc.) and living on a river, I averaged more than 4 bear encounters a year. While guiding, I backed up my hunters with a Marlin 45-70, by experienced guides, the best for short range protection, proven in use many times over. Otherwise, when space allowed, I carried a short barrelled 12ga. pump with 0 or no.1 shot in a 3" shell, preferred by the Alaska Fish and Game and most fishing guides. All other times I carried and still carry, my Ruger Super Blackhawk, 5.5" .44 mag. or my Redhawk in a Bowen .45 Long Colt coversion. Sadly, of all my encounters, I`ve had to kill two bears, one griz and one black. In both cases, all other avenues had been exhausted and a charge was taking place in both instances. Both occured while I was carrying the .44 mag. and both bears were killed without harm to myself. The grizzly required two shots and the black, one. I used hand loaded shells with Barnes Monolith .350 gr. bullets. The .44 mag or larger, with the right loading and in the right hands, has proven itself as a sufficient protection against bears, especially here in the Lower 48. Although I don`t follow this advice because I prefer to go down fighting, when encountering a charging grizzly or brown bear in Alaska, I highly advise the proven "play dead" option. While you will almost always be mauled, the odds are in your favor that you will survive. In the Lower 48, the grizzly and black bears are smaller ( mainly due to diet) and I would not hesitate to use my firearm against one, as the odds are in my favor. There are confrontations every year here in Montana where an individual has stopped an attack with his firearm, usually a .44mag or larger. I do not recommend a pistol as protection to anyone that is not proficient in the use of a handgun. While not always effective, bear spray has proven itself to be an excellent deterent, especially if used before a full charge. Keep in mind though, that bear spray has been shown ( unfortunately in an attack) to lose a lot of it`s potency when more than a year old. You never,ever shoot a bear in the head with a center fire bullet. The top plate of the skull is so dense and sloped, that most bullets will glance off. The exception is when using a shotgun. Your best bet with a shotgun is as many shots to the head (preferably the face) as possible. A shotgun blast to the face of a charging bear will usually render the bear handicapped due to a very sensitive nose (blows to the nose have actually warded off an attacking bear in many instances), and by blinding. You have hopefully taken away his sense of smell and sight. A shotgun will rarely kill a bear, but it will give you a chance for escape. .......................> snip<.......................... . A Kodiak came along and >grabbed him by the head, and drug him off. Bears don't like fresh meat, so >the bear buried him and marked him (pissed). ..> snip<... > Jeff That is basically true but not always. In Alaska and here in Montana, attacks continue to occur where the bear ( so far always grizzly) will partially consume their victim before leaving the scene. A large number of them have been here in Glacier Park. While I don`t advocate killing a bear unless absolutely, positively a last dich option, I will not risk my or anyone elses life for the sake of an animal. I agree with Jeff and from experience of living with bears, the best thing to do in bear country is to always take preventitive and precautionary methods, such as what Jeff advised in the way of proper food storage. But keep in mind that it`s been proven that most olfactory sensitive animals can smell food in most containers. One thing I`ll add to Jeff`s advice, which by the way is considered SOP in bear country and law in some parks, is to not only eat away from your sleeping area, but hang your food a good distance away from your site. Also, brush your teeth, including your tongue and the back of your mouth before turning in. The food smells from your breath are just as easily picked up 15 feet from your tent as they are from a container. While the comment to Alex that started this was an off-handed remark, and not seriously intended as "advice", bears are a potential problem here in Montana and Idaho, and for riders camping around here, serious precautions should be considered. We really are expecting a serious problem this year, as we did this past fall. So while some may consider this post a waste of KLR bandwidth, many of you have noted that you will be coming or going through Montana this spring and summer and should be forewarned. I apologize to those that read this and feel Jeff and I were wasting your time, but it wasn`t intended for you, but for the benefit of those interested. To prevent tangents into bears and firearms, if anyone feels they must respond to this post, please do it personally. Thanks. Skip ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V2 #238 ****************************