From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V2 #244 Reply-To: klr650 Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Wednesday, April 7 1999 Volume 02 : Number 244 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:50:16 EDT From: S2Mumford@aol.com Subject: (klr650) Re: klr650 Noisy Canadians In a message dated 4/D/YY 3:02:48 AM Pacific Daylight Time, alarsen@rapidnet.net writes: << ...Big Gun exhaust...Any one else out there running this exhaust? You like? >> I have one and I like it just fine. I suggest using a goodly amount of high temp RTV on the joint between the head pipe and the " silencer" ( ha! ). The Dynojet jet kit and K & N filter complement the pipe nicely and together they provide a nice performance boost. It is also a lot lighter than the stock pipe, which you can then use as a club to kick some serious bear ass. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:25:49 -0600 From: "Vik Banerjee" Subject: Re: (klr650) Fw: Canyons Rally 99...NKLR >>Ask Vik what they do in Canmore...now that the elk have taken over Banff. >>Ged On Page 101 of the May '99 Rider Mag...there is a Map showing MT and Canada....if you draw a straight line between Calgary and Golden on that map and look where that line crosses Banff National Park....I live 2.5miles East of the park boundary along that line. The only thing scarier than an angry bear....is a horny bull elk!...=)...no joke......getting mauled is bad, but getting...ummmm..you know....now that's nasty. =) Cheers, Vik ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:30:21 -0600 From: "Vik Banerjee" Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR Bear story - -----Original Message----- From: Pokluda, Gino F To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Date: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 10:01 AM Subject: (klr650) NKLR Bear story > A BMW rider and KLR rider are hiking through the woods when the biggest, >meanest Grizzly they had ever seen walks out from the scrub. It roars and >bares its teeth at the two hikers, standing in fear and awe. The KLR rider >immediately bends over and begins to tighten the laces on his boots. The >BMW rider looks at him incredulously and exclaims, "You can't out run that >Grizzly, they can run over 30 miles per hour!" The KLR rider looks at the >BMW riders and says, "I don't have to out run the bear... I only have to out >run you." > >Gino I heard that one too, but the KLR rider jumped on his bike....and gave the BMW a kick .......apparently the BMW rider was not killed by the bear, but he was crushed by his bike. The bear was laughing so hard he couldn't eat. =) Cheers, Vik ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:25:35 EDT From: FTabor231@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) Warm weather choking. In a message dated 4/7/99 9:47:01 AM Central Daylight Time, ewinslow@mail.his.com writes: << I'm finding that I really don't need to use the choke at all when the bike is cold. Sometimes I'll use it a bit, but never at the max. Even in the morning when it's in the mid-50's (fahrenheit, of course) this is the case. >> Eric you are running rich on the idle circuit, kind of nice being able to take right off! frank ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:02:49 EDT From: Cloudhid@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) Big Gun - not bears On 4/7/99, MRatta@ADE.com writes: snip [biggun silencer/headpipe combo] >The header and the silencer are made for a pretty close fit.. >dont know if they would work with a different headpipe or >silencer but I doubt it. It definitely looks better with the matching plated pipe, but as an experiment I put the stock headpipe back on and mated it to the BG silencer. It's working so far. I don't know if it's giving anything up performance wise, but it added back a few ounces of weight. More than enough to negate my helium filled, mylar lined inner tubes. Redondo Ron - always lookin' for new ways to lighten up ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:15:33 EDT From: Cloudhid@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) Cracked Nuts On 4/7/99, chris_beasley@mindspring.com writes: snip [broken choke 'carb' nut] > Can I replace just the nut or do I have to replace the > whole thing? Beez, I didn't even realize I had cracked it at first. I noticed a peculiar whistle at partial choke settings. It was sucking air past the choke plunger. Anyway Kawi calls it a 'choke cap nut.' I suppose they can justify making it cheesy plastic so that it breaks before the carb body does. Cost me $12 from...The Dealer. Redondo Ron - o/` I said goddamn the pusher man o/` ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:48:01 -0500 From: "Ken Belfatto" Subject: (klr650) NKLR Happy Birthday Hey, It's my birthday (4/7)today too! Made it to 34 Kenny - -----Original Message----- From: Fred Hink To: KLR 650 list Date: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 9:13 AM Subject: (klr650) Happy Birthday >"Somebody" told me that Gino is having another birthday today. > >OK everyone, all together now.... >HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU >HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU >HAPPY BIRTHDAY DEAR GINO > >HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU!!! > >Gee it must be hard when you turn 50! > >Gino hates birthdays and he will probably tell you he is only 44 or >something like that. > >Fred (29 and holding)(again) > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:32:08 -0700 From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR- Lions and tigers and bears (oh my!) Back in >Missouri the biggest "danger" are the water >moccasins that hang out in the "criks" and ponds. I must admit that the thought of these scared the sh-- out of me when I was water skiing at the Land Between the Lakes in Tennessee. I ran across a nest of them once walking my dog around a pond with a bunch of criks running into it. You catch that musty smell, you know? Then the ground looks like its moving. I put my dog on my shoulders and high-tailed it out of there. Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 19:42:12 -0400 From: Stuart Heaslet Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR Bears At 10:00 PM 4/6/99 -0500, Tom Meagher wrote: >As someone who is planning on riding and camping his way from Texas to >Alaska and back this summer,> >One question that comes to mind, however, is the legal aspect of >transporting a hand gun across state lines, >and back and forth across the Canadian border. According to the Milepost in regard to bringing firearms into Canada: "Firearms are divided into 3 categories - prohibited, restricted and long guns. The ONLY category of a gun a U.S. visitor may bring into Canada is a long gun, which is a regular hunting rifle or shotgun with a barrel at least 18.5 inches (47 cm), and an overall length of 26 inches (66 cm), and which does not fall into the category of a prohibited or restricted firearm. Non-restricted firearms may be imported only for sporting or hunting use while in Canada, for use in competitions, for in-transit movement through Canada, or for a person's protection against wildlife in remote regions of Canada (excluding national parks) as long as the customs officer is satisfied that the circumstances warrant the importation of the firearm. Restricted weapons may only be imported for the purpose of attending an approved shooting competition in Canada. A temporary permit is required." The piece goes on to say that nonresidents must declare firearms, and that if they try to smuggle, the firearm AND the vehicle can be seized. Bringing handguns into Canada is illegal. Personal protection devices such as mace, pepper spray, stun guns, etc. are also prohibited. For specific answers on firearm importation to Canada, call the Regional Information Unit, (604) 666-0545. Stuart A12 Juno Beach, Florida ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:44:07 -0700 From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" Subject: Re: (klr650) HELP! I lost my keys! >Jeff, this is easy, take your helmet lock off and take it to your lock smith >or dealer. When we were a dealer, we had several key sets and could usually >find a precut key. Suzuki sells their dealers a coded key cutting machine, >Kaw may do the same now. Ill bet the key number is on the helmet lock too. >frank Ordinarily yes, good advice, except on my A3 there is a different key for the helmet lock, and gas cap, and ignition. Things break over time I guess. The bike didn't even have a helmet lock before I bought it. I wonder if a lock smith could key them all the same.... BTW, Kaw said that they only sell key blanks, period. I wonder about that dealer though, since their main business is HD. Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 19:49:00 -0400 From: Stuart Heaslet Subject: Re: (klr650) (NKLR) Bear talk At 10:49 PM 4/6/99 -0700, Alex Jomarron wrote: >Man, all this talk about bears has me wondering about flying to Key West >for the summer instead of Prudhoe!!!! ;-) Alex, I had this urge to visit the bathroom too right after Skip's stories, but I decided that since departure is four weeks from now I'd save some money on bear repellent and stop taking showers beginning right now. The bonus of this idea is that it should kill mosquitos and everything else in my campsites. Might even prevent people from tailgating. Stuart A12 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 19:53:49 -0400 From: Stuart Heaslet Subject: Re: (klr650) Re: Alaska At 05:13 AM 4/7/99 -0500, Tom Meagher wrote: >I plan to leave Houston around June 1. Tom, I'm leaving Florida around May 8, should be in Prudhoe around June 1-4. Return will be after August 7. Let me know your return schedule, maybe we can hook up. Stuart A12 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 20:09:10 +0000 From: Jeffrey Doyle Subject: Re: (klr650) Gas cap squeals. John Smith wrote: > > After riding and shutting off the engine, I hear a very high pitched > squeal coming from the gas cap. When I open and close the cap it stops. > The first time I heard it I thought it was some kind of electronic > warning alarm. Its very high pitched and continuous. Anyone have any > comments? > > -Brian Shepard > shepard@drexel.edu John, That sound is normal because the tank is trying to equalize pressure with the atmosphere whether it is from engine heat or volume change. It does continue for a while. Jeff A2 AMA ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 17:19:02 -0700 From: Tom McKenzie Subject: (klr650) Opera Bear Arne wrote If anyone owns a new Nissan Pathfinder, and while out 4-wheeling through the forest happens to come across that opera-singing Grizzly, let me know. Well I must say that Arne being from the lower mainland of BC should have been aware that the opera singing bear will be at GM place on April 17 for one performance only. Why I saw the ad on TV at lunch today. They said hurry and get your tickets for the performance of Andrea Bearchelli at GM place with The Vancouver Symphony Orchestra. Arne how could you have missed him? - -- Tom A13 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:19:02 -0700 From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR Bears >"Bear Spray"? What if it just really pisses 'em off? I remember reading >the original Lewis and Clark account >of their first encounter with a Grizzly, and how many musket balls it >absorbed, and how many men it killed, >etc.. A little can of mace is gonna make something like that go away? > I think that bear spray is more of a repellant than something like pepper spray. But you know, pepper spray might actually be pretty effective, considering how sensitive a bear's nose it. The drawback is that would mean that you're close enough to use it. When in the woods, I look for the grizzely tracks, and tree rubs. You can kind of tell when you're on their "turf", and then avoid it or move through it quickly. Bears aren't too good at stalking, and you can hear them from a distance too, unlike cougars, which is another topic. >Carrying a gun would bring a certain peace of mind, both from bears, and >other menaces (boogy men?) as well. Good concern. This region of nation sure has its crop of weirdos. Green River Killer, Ted Bundy, Wesly Alan Dodd, and all those Neo Nazi mutts in Northern Idaho. > >One question that comes to mind, however, is the legal aspect of >transporting a hand gun across state lines, >and back and forth across the Canadian border. I understand that in many >states it is not legal to carry a >gun openly. Is it OK if the clip is carried separately and a trigger lock >is used? Do you have to carry some >paperwork with it? Overall, it seems like it might be more hassle than it's >worth. > Pretty sure that you'd have to check your gun at the Canadian border, I've heard that there is paperwork you can do for transporting a firearm through Canada to Alaska, but I know nothing about it. For the most part, if the firearm is transported unloaded, in a case, packed in a bag, I don't think any John Q. Law will give you a hard time over it, if discovered. Honesty is always the best policy if asked too, but don't broach the subject yourself. Once I was coming home with a buddy in his Toy T-100 extended cab. A stater pulled us over because his M-4 carbine in the window rack had a magazine inserted. The magazine was unloaded. He just keeps it in so the weapon didn't rotate in the rack. >Also, a .44 or .45 seems like an awful lot of metal to be packing all over >the place. Is there anything smaller, >maybe with special ammunition, that would be useable? Sombody once told me that you can get a .357 mag derringer, but I've never seen one personally. Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:16:12 -0600 From: "Vik Banerjee" Subject: (klr650) Just got my bike jetted and dyno'd - results I have been running the Supertrapp IDS pipe for a month now with the standard jetting and filter. It sounds great, but no power increase and a real lag in acceleration from the time the throttle is opened till anything happens. I finally got my bike in to be dyno'd and jetted with a Dynojet Stage II kit and K&N air filter. The results were impressive and not so impressive - depending on how you look at it. The bike runs great now. Lot's of power and really quick throttle response and of course it sounds great. If I had to guess I'd say I had a big difference in power before and after. However, the actual dyno numbers don't support this totally. Keep in mind the before numbers are for a totally stock KLR with an IDS pipe thrown on. Low accell roll on (so slow throttle response I guess) Before: max power = 35.0 SAE corrected HP After: max power = 35.8 SAE corrected HP This difference of 0.8 HP is pretty constant throughout the middle portion of the dyno run. Its less consistent at the start and at the end. Fast accel roll on (so quick throttle response I guess) Before: max power = 29.31 SAE corrected HP After: max power = 34.03 SAE corrected HP The difference is biggest initially (4.72 HP), but the after is consistently higher throughout the dyno run. So what does that tell me??? I am not sure. This is the first bike I have dyno'd so I really don't know what to do with these numbers. I have the graphs that they produced. Is that of interest to anyone? I can scan them if it is. The bike runs great so I suppose that's all I really care about! Cheers, Vik ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:30:17 -0700 From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR Bears >ajax@xmission.com writes: >>How about a .357 magnum... > > >I admire Skip's bravado. Even if I were sporting my 44mag, a >charging bear would leave me with a huge brown stain on my >shorts. Truth be told I wouldn't feel secure with anything less >than a B.A.R. against an animal with razor sharp claws the >length of my forearm, attached to a body 3x my size, that >even in my prime could outrun me. > Damn mister! How long ago did you serve? I think I've seen one of those in a museam once....well, some third world countries still use them. Personally, I love the M-60 MG. Yep, nothing put the pig for me, all 7.62 mm belt fed, gas operated joy. But I tell you what, you want some real stopping power, then how about a MK-19? Its a belt fed machine gun that fires a 40 mm HE grenade. Of course you'd need a truck mount to use it, since the tripod weighs over 50 lbs, and is pretty useless on the move. I think that this is getting a tad out of proportion. Just take precautions with your food and personal hygene, maintain liter discipline, and be aware of your surroundings and you'll be alright in the woods. I go out all the time with no firearms. But never without a good knife. Jeff >Skip and Vik's idea of a shotgun is probably the most civilized >compromise. But if all I had was my trusted 357, then at least >I'd hope that it was loaded with "Barker Hitman" rounds. These >are mag rounds with a sheet metal screw cast into the lead. >Works great for penetrating sheet metal on cars, and won't >deflect off of windshields. I don't recall anyone attesting >to their ability to pierce bear heads though...so YMMV > >Here's a site for some state by state gun laws with a link for >a pdf file with info on interstate transportation of firearms: >http://www.nraila.org/NRA-FALAWS.html > >John O. A10 (it ain't toilets that I clean) > > > > ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V2 #244 ****************************