From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V2 #251 Reply-To: klr650 Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Thursday, April 8 1999 Volume 02 : Number 251 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 15:13:58 -0400 From: "Karl Huebner" Subject: RE: (klr650) New List Member Dan and Bill: Not exactly 3 to 1. Simply, the PD is a better bike on the road with plenty of accessories... and options for on-road... triple track riding. Don't get me wrong, there are riders out there that can do magic on that model. The KLR is a better gravel-double track DP bike. There is getting to be a ton of accessories out there... and this list is more than just a little inventive... check out home pages for both bikes... I use my KLR primarily as an in-town bomber. BMWs as long range (200+ miles) cruisers. Both can handle gravel roads. If I were going to start out again, I would buy the KLR first and keep it... I might not buy the BMWs because I simply don't get to drive that far very often. (Oh, you can find a used PD for $4.5k on up... a decent used 96 KLR might go for $2.8k. Karl Huebner, MSgt 445 SFS, WPAFB, Ohio Rider of BMW Motorcycles R100GS, R11GS and the Kawasaki 650 KLR Ohio Department of Youth Services Correctional Officer * Visit the Celiac Web Page at http://rdz.acor.org/lists/celiac * - -----Original Message----- From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Bill Wright Sent: Thursday, April 08, 1999 2:49 PM To: dan shaw Cc: klr650@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: (klr650) New List Member dan shaw wrote: > also, id like to know what advantages the klr has over the bmw r100gs > pd which was actually my first choice but way too expensive. > You already discovered the biggest advantage. You can buy 3 KLRs for the the price of 1 GS. Bill Wright Hotlanta, GA. 98 KLR650 - "Special K" - 23,300 miles ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:13:07 -0700 From: "Arne Larsen" Subject: Re: (klr650) Clutch Cable Broke - ----- Original Message ----- From: Vik Banerjee To: Sent: Thursday, April 08, 1999 10:57 AM Subject: Re: (klr650) Clutch Cable Broke > hink (verb,adj) - to add expensive bits to an otherwise okay motorcycle, "I > am hinking out my KLR", "Checkout Kurt's DR350 - isn't it hink?", "that new > 10gal KLR fuel tank from Acerbis looks hink". I guess this means that if you rode your bike through a cold river crossing you would get "shrink hink"??? > Arnie (adj) - rarely used word describing a grown man in a speedo with a > feminine hygiene product up each nostril, "Did you see that guy, he's > arnie - how can he breathe?" I shudddddder at the thought... > Vik (noun) - someone who is so mechanically inept they think Torque was > Worf's half-bother on DS9 and that Horse Power is the gay equine lobby, > "Kurt you put your carb in wrong, don't be such a Vik!" I don't know if I'll put my exhaust on now. More horse power scares me! Oh man did I laugh. Keep 'em coming... Mr. Larsen = ) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 13:49:34 -0600 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: Re: (klr650) well my test worked this time I have some questions >not be undersold. So I am thinking what do you think I should offer as far >as the cash price? I will probaly try to get them to sweeten the deal with >possibly an accessory discount or something. Has anyone had any dealings >with any of these dealers? good or bad. Thanks in advance for any replies. >Dave (the soon to be 650 owner) I'd offer about $100 less than I was willing to put down in cash at that moment...if you are going to play hard it is only fair that you are wearing your equipment...For me, that would be $4,400 with the expectation I'd go for $4,500 right now. This is for everything except title and tax... You already have $4,600 in your back pocket, $4,200 might be insulting... Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 13:50:34 -0600 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: Re: (klr650) wife's reaction >to produce any mechanical insights. Guess what she said--she said it >sounded like were we riding around on a lawn mower engine. Now that really >hurt. > >DWG that's not bad...I haven't heard anyone say there SO liked the KLR that much...BTW, Vic Norton drives the same combo of two bikes you do... Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 15:45:32 EDT From: S2Mumford@aol.com Subject: (klr650) Re: klr650-digest V2 #249 << At 8:55 AM -0600 4/8/99, Roy Cope wrote: >> Guess what she said--she said it >>sounded like were we riding around on a lawn mower engine. Now that really >>hurt. >> I thought it was a sewing machine with a hole in the muffler. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 15:00:09 -0600 From: "Vik Banerjee" Subject: Re: (klr650) Headlight gaurd - -----Original Message----- From: Arne Larsen To: Scott Wass ; KLR Date: Thursday, April 08, 1999 1:09 PM Subject: Re: (klr650) Headlight gaurd >The KLR article in the May Rider Mag spoke of a clear stick-on type >headlight guard called a LITEGUARD made by Dualstar - $12.95. > >Arne I have it and the same stuff of my VW's euro lights (the are $200 a pop to replace)...so far works well - no complaints. Vik ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 16:07:43 +0000 From: snsi@win.bright.net Subject: (klr650) Tires Redux (or at least maybe new) Howdy All, I've been looking at the Kenda K657 Sport Challenger for the KiLleR. The K657 comes in a 90/100H-21 Front and 130/90H-18 rear. Now does any one have a guess how the increase in aspect ratio (from 90/90 to 90/100 in front and 130/80 to 130/90) is going to affect my ride? Tom Simpson aren't you running a 130/90 AM21? Thanks for the time. Jeff Smith Barnes, WI '71 A-HD Sprint 350; '97 Kawasaki KLR650 (King o'La Road) "Beware the dirt bike ... Ground shaking dirt bike" TMBG ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 16:58:44 -0400 From: "Eric Jasniewicz" Subject: (klr650) KLR - Use hitch pin clips instead of cotter pins for axle retention Umm, folks, anyone out there ever heard of going down to Ace Hardware and getting some hitch pin clips and using them instead of those insane cotter pins to ensure axle nut retention? I've run across several folks who never heard of this option. I always thought this was known universally. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 15:15:30 -0600 From: "Pokluda, Gino F" Subject: RE: (klr650) KLR - Use hitch pin clips instead of cotter pins for axle retention >>Umm, folks, anyone out there ever heard of going down to Ace Hardware and getting some hitch pin clips and using them instead of those insane cotter pins to ensure axle nut retention? I've run across several folks who never heard of this option. I always thought this was known universally.<< Yup. Use these on all of my bikes. I even use them with Dual Stars cotterless axel nuts because it sucks when the wheels come off. Gino ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 14:28:04 -0700 From: Christopher J Beasley Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR - Use hitch pin clips instead of cotter pins for axle retention Yep, got one on the front of my KLR. The back still has a cotter pin for some reason... b Eric Jasniewicz wrote: > Umm, folks, anyone out there ever heard of going down to Ace Hardware and > getting some hitch pin clips and using them instead of those insane cotter > pins to ensure axle nut retention? I've run across several folks who never > heard of this option. I always thought this was known universally. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 15:43:47 -0600 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: (klr650) Park City Motorcycle Week... As some of you know the Steamboat Springs Motorcycle week is history...the event will now take place in my home state in beautiful Park City. Check out this website for info. http://www.parkcitymotorcycle.org/PCMC%20Week.html Let me know if anyone is interested in developing a Dual Sport Rally in conjunction with the event. Kurt Simpson Salt Lake City ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 15:51:01 -0600 From: "Pokluda, Gino F" Subject: RE: (klr650) Park City Motorcycle Week... I'm going. My neighbor and I were just discussing what we were going to do for a road trip this year and this is it. Maybe I'll have my SV650 by then, I hope, I hope, I hope... Gino, anyone have any good lottery numbers or lines on a race horse, Pokluda ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 18:03:42 -0400 From: Stuart Heaslet Subject: Re: (klr650)NKLR Gettin' Hinked At 12:13 PM 4/8/99 -0700, Arne Larsen wrote: > hink (verb,adj) - to add expensive bits to an otherwise okay motorcycle, >"I am hinking out my KLR", "Checkout Kurt's DR350 - isn't it hink?", "that >new 10gal KLR fuel tank from Acerbis looks hink". I get Hinked regularly and it's still cheaper than rent. Stuart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 16:10:43 -0600 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: Re: (dr350) RE: (klr650) Park City Motorcycle Week... >for a road trip this year and this is it. Maybe I'll have my SV650 by then, >I hope, I hope, I hope... Ohhh Frankie must be quite a lady...quite a lady...I think you better save your money and buy a Hawk instead...it is prettier anyway.. Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 18:09:57 -0400 From: "mary e. burgess" Subject: Re: (klr650) (NKLR) Bear talk Jeff & Lisa Walker wrote: > > >>Actually, this will attract mosquitoes. There is never a good reason for > >>poor hygiene. Just don't use deodorant, scented soaps, as these attract > >>mosquitoes too. > > > > > >Actually the only thing that attracts mosquitoes to you is exhaled CO2. I > >don't recommend not breathing as a tactic for dealing with these evil > >creatures. > > > >Vik > > Believe me, I've tried and seen it all with mosquitoes. Experience and > learned from others. I have SEEN mosquitoes vector in (pun intended) on > people wearing cologne and deodorants. My favorite repellent is Skin So > Soft, (Avon?). I have also seen mosquitoes attracted to the smell of blood. > One trick that I learned to repel ticks and mosquitoes is to suck the heads > off a couple of matches every day. The theory is that this puts sulfur in > you blood, and thus ticks and mosquitoes don't want to suck on you. Seemed > to work well, especially when used with repellents. > > There are places on Ft. Lewis where the mosquitoes are so bad, you slap > them, they'll slap you back! I've had bites on my hands and face so bad I > got these huge bulging, swollen purple welts. I've found that the military > issue bug juice works well for helping to glide the camouflage paint on, and > can remove the scratches from the paint on your car, but is pretty worthless > otherwise. Skin So Soft all the way! > > Jeff Spent one year in the Alaskan Bush while in the USAF. We used the military issue bug juice (100% deet) and mosquitoe head net while sleeping. I discourage the use of Skin So Soft. From my experience and numerous others we found out the hard way that SSS does not work. As far as weapons for protection a shotgun that fires slugs is the way to go. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 16:19:11 -0600 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: (klr650) NKLR ... Dr. Bronner's soap... >Seriously, regarding soaps - I like using liquid peppermint (Dr. Castille >or something like that) soap - do bears like the smell of peppermint? What >about the smell of eucalyptus? http://www.seattletimes.com/news/lifestyles/html98/bron_020799.html no Stuart...from my hippie days of living in my Volkswagen Van (for two years) I can tell you it was Dr. Bronner's soap...we used it for everything...gave you quite a pucker on the ole private parts if you know what I mean son... Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 16:14:10 -0600 From: "Vik Banerjee" Subject: (klr650) NKLR The New World Order Dictionary >Oh man did I laugh. Keep 'em coming... ummmm...okay....you asked for it: Givi (adj, verb) - used to describe the weird Euro organic aesthetic (adj), a little know sex act originating in Peru (verb), "...Honey do you like my new haircut? Ummm...ya darling its givi...", "...Wanna givi baby?" chain-lube (verb) - describes the act of passing around joy jelly at an orgy, EXAMPLE DELETED BY CENSORS. scottoiler (noun) - an automated machine used for a chain-lube, EXAMPLE DELETED BY CENSORS. rim-protector (noun) - the Utah park Ranger that warns you the edge of the White Rim Trail is only a foot away, "Thank god for that rim-protector or I'd have bought it." dunlop (verb) - to cut something in big chunks, "How do you want your prime rib sliced Mr. Hink? Just dunlop it - I'm hungry!" acerbis (adj) - used to describe high quality plastic/rubber items, "God Gino that lunch box is acerbis - where did you get it?" jetting (verb) - to run many small errands, "I can't help you Juan I am jetting" dyno-jet (verb) - having more errands to do than are possible in the time allotted by your SO, "I'd love to have a beer Kurt, but I gotta dyno-jet if I want to sleep in the house tonight!" progressive-suspension (adverb) - what happens when you ride too much and are late for work a lot, "I am sorry Karl, but I have no alternative than progressive-suspension." pepper-spray (noun) - an aerosol condiment favoured by bears, "Pass the pepper-spray Bill" Hepco & Becker (noun) - the current German pro-wrestling tag team champs, "Hey Jimmy let's play Hepco & Becker!" big-gun (noun) - what you say instinctively when Skip points his pistol in your face, "Big gun!" Supertrapp (noun) - a late '80s mega rock band, "Man can you still get Supertrapp on vinyl dude?" avon-gripsters (noun) - the bad ass dudes that kick your butt if you don't pay your cosmetics bill, "Oh Christ its some avon-gripsters at the door - tell 'em I am not home!" baja (adverb) - the involuntary sound you make when you walk out to your KLR and you realize its been stolen, "..Where's my bike?..oh my god.....baja...baja...sob...sob" Michelin (noun) - the feeling you get as your bike sputters and you realize you left it out reserve when you filled up last time. corbin (noun) - an unsightly rash you get on your butt from riding your KLR in wet jeans too long, "..Honey I told you to carry a rainsuit. Look at the corbin you've got!" Kawasaki (adj) - the way your stomach feels after too much sushi and rice wine, "I am going to feel Kawasaki later" suzuki (adj) - the way you feel after you blow past a guy on a Ducatti in the twisty while out riding your KLR. honda (adj) - what you scream when you get a front flat and realize you have no tool to remove the axle in your stock KLR toolkit. paris-dakar (noun) - a well known Washington law firm that worked on the Clinton impeachment. dual-sport (adj) - giving your buddy a second chance after he dumps your new bike. aerostich (noun) - a gore-tex thong for men made for KLR riding, "What's wrong Arnie?...My aerostich is cutting me in two!" Cheers, Vik ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:21:06 EDT From: Ztib@aol.com Subject: (klr650) new KLR 650 available I saw a new 650KLR for sale at Leo's South, a Kaw dealer in Lakeville, MN just fyi ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 22:47:12 -0000 From: "Stevens, Greig (CALBBAY)" Subject: (klr650) NKLR Bears - Do Koala's count? Here in Tasmania we don't have the Brown, the Black nor the fierce Grizzly...we have the KOALA. OK, so its not really a bear...and I have only ever seen them at wildlife parks but if one ever escapes...... We don't have to contend with cougars but we do have, according to the minority (most believe it is extinct) the Tasmanian Tiger, or the Thylacine (last one was seen 1930 something but it is rampant on the promotional scene!). Of course the one animal we do have to watch out for is the Tasmanian Devil. Oh, it also pays to watch out for wombats - hitting one of those little buggers at any speed is like running into a large rock. Anyway, with our gun laws it's a good thing that we don't have to plan for those sort of contingencies. Greig, RIDE AND BE SEEN! P.S. Given that there has been a recent military flavour to some messages, the aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson is currently visiting Hobart. Man, that is one big ship, over 1,000 feet long. We discharge Panamax vessels, about 730 feet long and they hang over the ends of our wharf. ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V2 #251 ****************************