From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V2 #269 Reply-To: klr650 Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Monday, April 12 1999 Volume 02 : Number 269 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:55:44 -0700 From: Christopher J Beasley Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR- Building the Perfect Beast Michael Durham wrote: > >Fellow listers... > >................> snip<................... > >Would it be possible for a KLR to win the Dakar? > > >Juan Villarreal, '97 KLR > >"The Happy Hooligan" > > Take a Works F650 and put a KLR sticker on it. > Seriously, I know it could be done, it`s the effort and vision that`s > lacking. > Skip > > Yeah, but you start winning too many races and the next thing you know > they're putting beemer prices on the KLR's. It might start detracting > from the bikes hidden beauty.....its affordability. > mike Hmmm, this would be really cool thing for the mailing list. This is such a creative bunch, and there's a GREAT aftermarket for this bike. I think it could and probably SHOULD be done! I think the biggest problem will be finding riders that can win something like the Dakar. With my dirt skills, I figure I'd need four years to train. Maybe Jeff the KLRanger could do it, riding at night with the NVGs ;-) And although prices will tend to go up over time regardless, a Dakar or other BIG rally win could help revitalize the KLR in terms of sales and Kawasaki continuing to mauf. this classic bike. @animal house mode@ LET'S DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm serious! I volunteer as a wrench for this team! Beez ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:03:04 -0600 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: Re: (klr650) Need a KLR seat >If anyone has a seat to a KLR laying around, I would be interested in >purchase. I don't care about the condition of the cover or padding, I just >want the seat pan. Thanks. > >DWG ahhhh Dean, you're new here so you can be excused but ahhh we are a nosy bunch and would like to know what you're cooking here..Russell? Sargeant? Maier? com'on anty up .... Kurt (assistant to several Doctors...Frankenstein; Moreau, etc.) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:04:50 -0700 From: Christopher J Beasley Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR- Building the Perfect Beast y'all need to get with Gino and get your back DSN issues. yyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww! KLR 750 indeed! b VFR754@aol.com wrote: > Wasn't somebody trying to "hype" out a KLR a few months back on the list, and > make it alot more powerful and SuperMotard-ish? I know this SuperMotard has > nothing to do with a Dakar bike, but is a KLR powerplant even capable of 75 > H.P.? > Hmmmmm..... > > Bill Swindle > A12 "Moose" > Montgomery, IL. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:06:53 -0700 From: Christopher J Beasley Subject: Re: (klr650) klr Paris - Dakar--Moab Michael Stecyk wrote: > Dear List--Idea----- > Rally in Moab -Lets have a Paris - Dakar > style --race /fun for the KLR"s--no pressure but a test of riding > skills-etc. > Prizes-One thing for sure a KLR will place first and then world D-P > domination > Mike Montreal Exactly! The top 3 become our Paris Dakar team each year! I'm on Crew, who else is in! b ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:06:18 -0600 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: Re: (klr650) vcard I agree with Mark, this stuff just corrupts the archives...please no .vcf files or any other attachments...plain text only... Thanks and thanks Mark for the heads-up... Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:03:13 -0600 From: "Vik Banerjee" Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR Riderwearhouse Tank Panniers - -----Original Message----- From: Pokluda, Gino F To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Date: Monday, April 12, 1999 2:44 PM Subject: RE: (klr650) NKLR Riderwearhouse Tank Panniers >I have the comp's on my KLR. At 5'10" my knees don't even come close. I >have them situated as far forward as possible. I can carry my jumbo tool >roll in one side and a 1.5 liters of water in the other. When you put them on your KLR place both straps forward of the fuel filler cap. This is not the intuitive setup, but it works well and provides much more knee room. I am 6ft and if I put one strap either side of the filler cap I would hit my knees. Don't see why they'd be a problem with highway pegs, but I have never used the highway pegs so maybe I am missing something. Cheers, Vik ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:11:32 -0700 From: Christopher J Beasley Subject: Re: (klr650) Lean or Rich. Skip Faulkner wrote: > ................... snip<.................... > >Thanks for the advice...I certainly have a hard time believing I'm too > lean. Do > >cold temps make the bike run leaner or richer? I want to say richer because > the > >air is more dense... > > > >Kurt (dense for typing this at 4:00 a.m.) > > > > > > Kurt, I came across this while checking older posts. In case you didn`t get > a response, cold temps generally will cause a carburated engine to run > leaner, because the air is denser and therefore is getting the same ratio of > fuel to a larger ratio of air. > As for altitude, for a given jetting, the higher you go, the richer > the fuel ratio will be, due to thinner air. That`s the reason aircraft > are designed to manually control the mixture, because of the > extremes in altitude that they operate in. > This past fall as the temps were getting colder, I noticed on my first > 19 degree ride to work that when I accelerated hard I was getting some > detonation. This got worse as it got colder. When we had a warmer few days > 40`s) it cleared up. I knew what was happening but wasn`t going to re-jet > till Ron finished his Carb Primer. > > Skip Yeah, Cloudhid, where's the rest of that Primer? Also, I've been thinking about my endurance racing crew daze, and a couple of gadgets that we had, one was an EGT meter, I dunno what the pickup for it was like tho. The other was a rich/lean meter. We would drill the header right after the 'collector' section, and weld on a nut over the hole. We could screw in this meter's pickup while jetting, putting in a bolt for the race. Anybody seen anything like this recently? Cheers! beez ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:11:44 -0600 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR Riderwearhouse Tank Panniers >I am considering aerostitchs' tank panniers. Thinking of possibly getting the smaller competition bags rather than the regular size > Anybody buy the competition size here? I am about 5' 11" in my stocking feet. Can you use the driveline Hwy. pegs with these bags? >Any comments on the effectiveness of the two sizes would be much appreciated. TIA I have the larger ones and don't come close to hitting them using Gino's method of attachment, i.e., both straps forward of the tank filler. I keep mine really low and I have the highway pegs...I'd buy the larger ones... Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:15:49 -0700 From: "Mark Machin" Subject: Re: (klr650) Re: (Nklr650) Harley Riders I've been riding for over 25 years from coast to coast, from scooter to cruiser to tourer to sport bike to dual sport. My personal experience has clearly demonstrated that the most unwilling to wave or respond to a friendly gesture have been HD riders. A friend once said that you can buy any other motorcycle for personal fun or buy a HD for an image. I'll rather ride for myself and not what other people think. Enough said. MM ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Shepard To: KLR650 Mailing LIst Sent: Monday, April 12, 1999 10:42 AM Subject: Re: (klr650) Re: (Nklr650) Harley Riders > I don't understand this. I just started riding again after 20 years and everyone > used to wave no matter what kind of bike. Now, Harleys never wave back to me. > This really > angers me bacause I know several people who own Harleys and Japanese bikes. How > do they know I don't also own Harley? I love Harleys and I really love my 1999 > KLR 650 too! > > -Brian Shepard > shepard@drexel.edu > > John Buffett wrote: > > > AGSholar@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > << It seems all the harley-dudes had their hands frozen to their handlebars > > > 'cause none of them waved. I was devastated. >> > > > > > > In Florida, it's against the law for Harley riders to wear fullface helmets > > > and wave to non-Harley riders. > > > > tHeY ShAkE So MuCH thEy goTTa HolD oN wIth BoTh HAndS > > -- > > John > > Northern Ontario, Canada > > > > As you wander on through life my friend, whatever be your goal. > > > > o_/| o_. > > [\_| [\_\ > > (`----|-------\-') > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~@~~~~~~~@~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~@~~~~~~~~@~~~~~~~~ > > > > Keep your eye upon the donut, and never on the hole. > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:20:46 -0600 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: Re: (klr650) Lean or Rich. >Yeah, Cloudhid, where's the rest of that Primer? he burnt himself out bigtime on part 1...he was gnawing on it like a dog on a bone until the last second...I literally had to pull it out of his mouth...he's been in shock ever since (g)... Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:22:41 -0700 From: Christopher J Beasley Subject: Re: (klr650) Having fun at Carnegie (with luggage) The date mentioned is Sunday May 2 at Carnegie for the new monthly East Bay KLR-DSN ride. Anyone want to go? Anyone want to go sooner? Cheers! Beez Marick Payton wrote: > Conall, > > I don't think the folks at Carnegie are going to care if your > bike is packed for traveling. They seemed pretty laid back to > me. But, I do seriously recommend having some decent tires. My > worn out Gripsters weren't the hot ticket. > > I'm sure Beez and I will be making another Sunday visit in the > next several weeks. Hope you can join us. > > Marick ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:17:24 -0600 From: "Vik Banerjee" Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR- Building the Perfect Beast >And although prices will tend to go up over time regardless, a Dakar or other >BIG rally win could help revitalize the KLR in terms of sales and Kawasaki >continuing to mauf. this classic bike. You forgetting Chris that we all have KLR's and that the average potential KLR buyer would be hard pressed to tell you what continent Dakar was on. Next time you see a F650 rider congratulate them on BMW's PD win...they'll likely look at you and say.."what???? What's a PD?" Cheers, Vik ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:46:46 -0700 From: Christopher J Beasley Subject: Re: (klr650) Lean or Rich. Kurt Simpson wrote: > >Yeah, Cloudhid, where's the rest of that Primer? > > he burnt himself out bigtime on part 1...he was gnawing on it like a dog on a bone until the > last second...I literally had to pull it out of his mouth...he's been in shock ever since > (g)... > > Kurt That's quite an image! I can't wait to meet you guys. Just out of curiousity, how many people on the list these days? I'm thinking 25-50 bucks a head to the KLR-PD team, would make a nice slush fund for a privateer team. :) b ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:52:15 -0700 From: Christopher J Beasley Subject: Re: (klr650) Need a KLR seat Kurt Simpson wrote: > >If anyone has a seat to a KLR laying around, I would be interested in > >purchase. I don't care about the condition of the cover or padding, I just > >want the seat pan. Thanks. > > > >DWG > > ahhhh Dean, you're new here so you can be excused but ahhh we are a nosy bunch and would like > to know what you're cooking here..Russell? Sargeant? Maier? com'on anty up .... > > Kurt (assistant to several Doctors...Frankenstein; Moreau, etc.) Me too! Doncha hate me too posts? Actually I'm looking to upgrade to something, but I dunno what or from whom. I have the stock 11 year old POS on my A2. Suggestions? Prices? Timeframes? Cheers! Beez ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:21:42 -0600 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: Re: (klr650) Lean or Rich...NKLR - -----Original Message----- From: Christopher J Beasley To: Kurt Simpson Cc: KLR650 Page Date: Monday, April 12, 1999 3:47 PM Subject: Re: (klr650) Lean or Rich. > > >Kurt Simpson wrote: > >> >Yeah, Cloudhid, where's the rest of that Primer? >> >> he burnt himself out bigtime on part 1...he was gnawing on it like a dog on a bone until the >> last second...I literally had to pull it out of his mouth...he's been in shock ever since >> (g)... >> >> Kurt > > That's quite an image! I can't wait to meet you guys. > >Just out of curiousity, how many people on the list these days? I'm thinking 25-50 bucks a head >to the KLR-PD team, would make a nice slush fund for a privateer team. :) >b we were about 362 before the bear posts...now we're about where we were after the wilderness value discussion...340... Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:23:00 EDT From: Cloudhid@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR Riderwearhouse Tank Panniers [regular size panniers vs. the smaller 'competition' size] Kurt and Vik voted for the larger ones. I'm with Gino on this one. I got the competition size. On some trips I've wished they were even smaller. When I get around to retracing Helge's route, maybe I'll change my vote... Redondo Ron - sometimes bigger is NOT better ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:26:18 +0000 From: Sarah Barwig Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR Riderwearhouse Tank Panniers OK, so you guys who put the tank pannier straps both in front of the gas cap, where do you attach the bungee cords to? I've got a jury rigged arrangement with twisted coat hanger at the moment, but that's not gonna work if I move em forward some more. (Although the extra leg room would be quite appreciated.) Thanks, Sarah - -- Sarah Barwig Developer WeddingChannel.com (213) 599-4144 888 S. Figueroa St., Suite 700 Los Angeles, CA, 90017 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:42:57 -0600 From: "Vik Banerjee" Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR Riderwearhouse Tank Panniers - -----Original Message----- From: Sarah Barwig To: KLR list Date: Monday, April 12, 1999 4:36 PM Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR Riderwearhouse Tank Panniers >OK, so you guys who put the tank pannier straps both in front of the gas >cap, where do you attach the bungee cords to? I've got a jury rigged >arrangement with twisted coat hanger at the moment, but that's not gonna >work if I move em forward some more. (Although the extra leg room would >be quite appreciated.) Sarah, I attach my bungees to the holes in my MSR skidplate. Vik ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:55:39 -0600 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR Riderwearhouse Tank Panniers >OK, so you guys who put the tank pannier straps both in front of the gas >cap, where do you attach the bungee cords to? I've got a jury rigged >arrangement with twisted coat hanger at the moment, but that's not gonna >work if I move em forward some more. (Although the extra leg room would >be quite appreciated.) > >Thanks, >Sarah I attach both of mine to the holes in the Moose Bash Plate... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:55:28 EDT From: Cloudhid@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR Lean or Rich. On 4/12/99, ajax@xmission.com writes: > >Yeah, Cloudhid, where's the rest of that [carb] Primer? > > he burnt himself out bigtime on part 1...he was gnawing on it > like a dog on a bone until the last second...I literally had to > pull it out of his mouth...he's been in shock ever since (g)... I blame Hiro for this mess. He started it all with his gastro-intestinal-exhaust diatribe. He asked me to ghost write it for him, then backed out at the last minute. Maybe it was something I said? I'll call his wife tonight and see if she can coax him to finish it. Wedondo Woof A10 ~~ give the dog a bone o/` ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V2 #269 ****************************