From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V2 #278 Reply-To: klr650 Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Wednesday, April 14 1999 Volume 02 : Number 278 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 08:29:53 -0700 From: Christopher J Beasley Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR- Building the Perfect Beast Jeff & Lisa Walker wrote: > take men with guns to make me ride all day like that. How much > is the purse anyway? > > Jeff Men with guns or men with money. It's always the same. ;P b ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 08:40:08 -0700 From: Christopher J Beasley Subject: Re: (klr650) Lean or Rich. > snip > K&N makes the only affordable air/fuel ratio monitor that is any good. > snip > Skip Have you looked at the Intellitronix.com unit? It's about 100 less than the K&N. Is it the K&N that you have on your KLR? Cheers Beez (can't leave well enough alone either.) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:40:35 -0600 From: "Vik Banerjee" Subject: (klr650) Fw: F650: What to carrry spare tubes in? Has anyone heard of this or had a similar experience? Vik - -----Original Message----- From: Eric Blume To: Vik Banerjee Cc: BMW -GS motorcycles mailing list Date: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 9:18 AM Subject: Re: F650: What to carrry spare tubes in? > >Vik wrote: > >> I have never heard this! Seems to me the heavy duty tubes are just a >> thicker higher grade rubber - should patch just fine. What reason would >> there be for glue not sticking to a heavy duty tube - if this is true >> I'd be really interested to know why? > >I got my set of Metzler extra heavy duty tubes from Helge. He didn't want >anything to do with these tubes after his Russia/Mongolia/China trip. >He was using them on that trip and had a flat and couldn't get anything >to patch it. Even the resourceful Mongolians could not patch it. >It must be a different compound than the standard tubes. > >Later, mailto:erkaneva@murkworks.net > -eric b. http://www.murkworks.net/~erkaneva/bmw.html > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:40:31 -0400 From: MRatta@ADE.com Subject: RE: (klr650) Lean or Rich. Ooh, someone else makes a sensor system that works with bikes? they have an ad someplace I could check out? Have you looked at the Intellitronix.com unit? It's about 100 less than the K&N. Is it the K&N that you have on your KLR? Cheers Beez (can't leave well enough alone either.) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:42:09 -0500 From: "Tom Meagher" Subject: Re: (klr650) klr noises fixed [re: rear wheel alignment] >You can take a straight edge (long enough to go from the back wheel to the >front wheel) making sure that the straight edge is flat against both sides... A taut string and a calibrated eyeball can also be used to produce a good estimate of wheel alignment, and is quite portable. (this is *one* problem I never had with my GS....) Tom Meagher "Just say no to shaft drive". ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 08:46:26 -0800 From: phipps@bulldog.prn.bc.ca (Allan Phipps) Subject: (klr650) NKLR (First Gear Pants) Hi Fred, I saw your post about First Gear products. >I can sell you a First Gear Kilimanjaro HT Jacket for just over $290. These >are regularly sold for $325 and are great jackets. I am a new rider and just bought a Kilimanjaro jacket and Hypertex overpants. Although I haven't been able to use them (we still have snow here) I think they will work well. I have a question about the pants. I'm just under 6 feet tall and I bought a size 34. They fit well except the legs seem to be long. When I'm standing, the knee padding starts about mid-kneecap. (when I sit on a bike, the knee padding does lift up a bit). The dealer I bought from in Canada said that they fit that way on most people. Do you know if it is possible to have the pants altered to shorten the legs and raise the knee padding? I figure it would work to take a section of leg out right above the knee. What do you think? Any idea who could do a good job of something like that? Also, how much do you charge for a brighter headlight for the KLR? I would like something brighter, but I don't want to have to modify wiring. Al 96 KLR Fort St. John, BC ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:38:52 -0600 From: "Fred Hink" Subject: (klr650) Re: NKLR (First Gear Pants) - ----- Original Message ----- From: Allan Phipps To: ; Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 10:46 AM Subject: NKLR (First Gear Pants) > > Hi Fred, > > I saw your post about First Gear products. > > >I can sell you a First Gear Kilimanjaro HT Jacket for just over $290. These > >are regularly sold for $325 and are great jackets. > > I am a new rider and just bought a Kilimanjaro jacket and Hypertex > overpants. Although I haven't been able to use them (we still have snow > here) I think they will work well. > > I have a question about the pants. I'm just under 6 feet tall and I bought > a size 34. They fit well except the legs seem to be long. When I'm > standing, the knee padding starts about mid-kneecap. (when I sit on a > bike, the knee padding does lift up a bit). The dealer I bought from in > Canada said that they fit that way on most people. Do you know if it is > possible to have the pants altered to shorten the legs and raise the knee > padding? I figure it would work to take a section of leg out right above > the knee. What do you think? Any idea who could do a good job of > something like that? You might check out: http://www.intersportfashions.com/home.html > Also, how much do you charge for a brighter headlight for the KLR? I would > like something brighter, but I don't want to have to modify wiring. $10 - $15 depending on how bright you want. Check out my parts list at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/fred/parts.html Fred > > Al > 96 KLR > Fort St. John, BC > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:05:51 -0600 From: "Vik Banerjee" Subject: (klr650) KLR Web Ring I have been poking around F650 and Transalp websites looking at pics and different travel stories. Both have been setup on webrings which makes finding them very easy. Having reformatted my HD's a couple times and working off 4 PCs I rarely have all the links relating to KLRs that I would like at hand. I was wondering if a KLR web ring wouldn't be a neat way of tying all these sites together. I am not sure how to start one. Anyone have any ideas? Cheers, Vik ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Apr 99 14:10:04 Pacific Daylight Time From: JAMES RUGGLES Subject: (klr650) Re. Ted Palmer Big Bore KLR Hi guys my name is Jim Ruggles, I have a 95 KLR with 4" bore.This is 101.6 MM. The eng has at this time abought 24 000 MI on it and is still running strong. This is abought as big as you dare go with stock head gskt. Head gskt. works fine with bore size, my engine at this time makes 52 hp @ 7000 RPM and 46 ft. lbs. torq @ 4000 . The pist is a Cosworth for a stage 2 Buick V6, with a little work it will go in . The eng. has Mega cycle cams RD valve springs the head has been ported and flowed and has 38.5 MM intake valves ( which is as big as you can go with out moving thing's) it has stock ex. valves With this pist. and cam combanation I have 11.5 compression ratio,this is all it will take with pump gas. FYI the valve train is the same as early Kaw 900 cc 1000 cc four cyl eng,s the int valves are for a KZ 1000 cc If a person wanted to, for whatever reason, you could convert to shim under cam buckets which are lighter and can be over revved safer. The int. valves I used made by FERREA, they are located in so. Fla. I feel that the Mega Cycle cam I picked are to small in duration, as I was seeking at least 65 HP, and the eng has more bottem end than stock. It will pull hard from 2000 RPM,s One of the major problems with the KLR is the carburator bay area as I couldn't get a bigger carb in the bike. I bored the production carb to 42 MM,s all the way through. As the carb is stock it's only 37 MM below the slide. This combanation works out to 675 cc and my experince tell's me that it would make more HP with at least a 46 MM carb, and I dont think you would give up any bottem end. I did some cyl head work on a XT 600 Yam, which has dual carbs stock. The Yam was 705 cc and it made over 70 HP we had two 38 MM carb's on it and it had great bottem end, as the bike was used for ice racing in Mn. If any one has any questions I will try to answer them. Jim Ruggles 98 1200 bandit 95 KLR 89 GB 500 88 NX 650 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:08:31 -0700 From: Tom Myers Subject: Re: (klr650) Swingarm lube question > I used the black moly-lithium stuff. Im not sure if it makes all >that much >difference, though. I've had great luck using waterproof boat trailer grease. I've pumped it thru and have seen it eject droplets of clear, clean non-rusty water from the bearings. I take that as an indication that the boat grease was protecting my bearings in a big way. I have never had a suspension bearing failure. (Rust would be a failure). We ride in deep water up here so water in the bearings is an issue. If water is not an issue, the black moly greases do provide substantially better lubrication. The best way of course is to pump some moly thru after any wet ride. I'm not disciplined enough for that so boat grease is a great option for me and has proven sufficient over the years. Tom +------------------------------------+ | CycoActive Products tel (206) 323-2349 | 701 34th Ave fax (206) 325-6016 | Seattle, WA 98122 USA | webpage: http://www.cycoactive.com | e-mail: TomMyers@cycoactive.com +------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:08:49 -0700 From: Tom Myers Subject: (klr650) Riding in the rain On the subject of "riding in the rain", I recall a NW event (the '89 Shelton Valley Enduro) where it poured during the entire six hours and there was deep cold water/slush everywhere (often up to the gas tank) and snow in the higher elevations. I made a point to check my engine often **to see if it ever dried off.** It did not. At all times there was mud, water and slush on my cylinder head. Six hours - howzzat for a 'warmup'? It was an XR250 and it ran great the whole time. I rebuilt that motor once in the two years I rode it, but the first "bore" went to "3rd over"! This would not be a good way to get the most miles from an engine, but on the other hand, suggests that tedious warmup rituals might not be worth the effort. Tom +------------------------------------+ | CycoActive Products tel (206) 323-2349 | 701 34th Ave fax (206) 325-6016 | Seattle, WA 98122 USA | webpage: http://www.cycoactive.com | e-mail: TomMyers@cycoactive.com +------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:32:16 -0700 From: "Arne Larsen" Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR Web Ring Speaking as a guy who, two weeks ago, had a primary master hard disk failure (uuuuuuuuuggggggggg), you might be on to something. Fortunately the HD (a Quantum Fireball, 6.4 GIG, .7 ms ) was covered under warranty and I had the kid's computer to fall back on. Now it's a fight between DSN and Duke Nukem. Wouldn't we just have to register with the web-ring club or something? BTW I made the same journey 2 months ago (before the KLR came into my life). Had a few conversations with Detleph (the guy with the best Translap site I was able to find). And ironically - or maybe not - it was the Maya adventure that Bill Haycock articled that turned me on to here. I saw the KLR at the Vancouver International Bike Show (here in Abbotsford this year); did some internet KLR searching; found DSN; read the Maya Adventure and was caught hook - line - and sinker. Arne - who just popped in the house for a coffee break - ----- Original Message ----- From: Vik Banerjee To: Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 10:05 AM Subject: (klr650) KLR Web Ring > I have been poking around F650 and Transalp websites looking at pics and > different travel stories. Both have been setup on webrings which makes > finding them very easy. Having reformatted my HD's a couple times and > working off 4 PCs I rarely have all the links relating to KLRs that I would > like at hand. > > I was wondering if a KLR web ring wouldn't be a neat way of tying all these > sites together. I am not sure how to start one. Anyone have any ideas? > > Cheers, > > Vik > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:52:27 -0700 From: "Arne Larsen" Subject: (klr650) KLR for sale Found a KLR for sale. Haven't seen it personally, but had the information relayed to me from the guy I bought my bike from. It's at Clearbrook Motorsports in Abbotsford. '87, 14,000 kilometers, aluminum hand guards. Supposed to be in excellent condition. He told me they wanted $5,500 CAD for it. I told him they were high for a two year old, 14,000 km bike. He said that it was because there were no others around so I reminded him that a guy could walk across the street and buy a new one for $6,000. He said they would be willing to come down to $4,850. Still a little high IMO. Their phone # is (604) 853-8821 Arne ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:03:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Juan Villarreal Subject: (klr650) Lubing of swingarm and suspension linkage Hey Carlos, I read your post with interest... Can you tell what's involved in lubing the swingarm and suspension linkages? Do you need to disassemble anything or use a special injector gun? How often should it be done? Thanks in advance... Juan Villarreal, '97 KLR "The Happy Hooligan" _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 18:53:12 +0000 From: Sarah Barwig Subject: Re: (klr650) KLR Web Ring Well, I went to http://www.webring.org/ seems someone has already created a KLR 650 webring. But it has 0 sites. And the site they link to doesn't exist, but if you go back in the url a directory or two, you find that Mr. Berlin is a Christian Motorcyclist. Let's all email him and ask him to kill his webring so we can use it for its intended purpose - - proseltyzing about the KLR. Sarah Vik Banerjee wrote: > I have been poking around F650 and Transalp websites looking at pics and > different travel stories. Both have been setup on webrings which makes > finding them very easy. Having reformatted my HD's a couple times and > working off 4 PCs I rarely have all the links relating to KLRs that I would > like at hand. > > I was wondering if a KLR web ring wouldn't be a neat way of tying all these > sites together. I am not sure how to start one. Anyone have any ideas? > > Cheers, > > Vik - -- Sarah Barwig Developer WeddingChannel.com (213) 599-4144 888 S. Figueroa St., Suite 700 Los Angeles, CA, 90017 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 19:00:21 +0000 From: Sarah Barwig Subject: (klr650) Hello You have a webring registered with http://www.webring.org for KLR motorcycles. Yet you have no page where your url points. You also have a webring for dualsports with no page where the url points. It seems very unchristian to reserve these webrings, yet not to offer any information. There is a KLR mailing list that would like to start a webring. However, you have reserved the best name already and you have no instructions for how to join your webring. Would it be possible for you to log on to webring and free the name so that we may use it? Or else, could you make available to us instructions on how to join your webring? Sarah - -- Sarah Barwig Developer WeddingChannel.com (213) 599-4144 888 S. Figueroa St., Suite 700 Los Angeles, CA, 90017 ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V2 #278 ****************************