From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V2 #293 Reply-To: klr650 Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Sunday, April 18 1999 Volume 02 : Number 293 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 03:14:08 -0700 From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" Subject: Re: (klr650) Non-starter Update > >>Any tips on getting it off?? It looks like the two hose clamps hold it on >>and the connector to the airbox is pretty flexible. > > >it is going to be hard for us to tell Jeff seems to be the only one that has been close to >one... Hey man, all I did was ride the things. In the Army, with TAMMS (The Army Maintenance Management System), I was considered the Operator. The PMCS (Preventative Maintenance Checks and Services) for the bike were as follows: Check to make sure that the tank has gas. Check the oil level and look for leaks. check the tires for pressure. Check to make sure it starts and the brakes work. That's it. I wasn't even authorized to check the chain, nor did I worry about it, because that is what the mechanic at HQ was paid for. To this day, I couldn't even tell you where the choke is on it. Sorry. Definitely sounds like a fuel problem, gummy varnish somewhere in the jets or something. Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 03:20:06 -0700 From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR- Hmmmm I think that flaming the guy was wrong, and his efforts should be aplauded, because I don't have the time or the knowlege to do something like that, and everything that brings the sport to the limelight is a good thing, I think. But Kurt and others have a point about the bulletin board being a bad thing, because I know that it would be really tiresome to answer the same questions over and over again, and I've been guilty of asking questions without first checking the archives myself. So Kurt has the right to ask that the mailing list not be refered to. Just my take on it all. Jeff >To all: > >I don't want to stir up any other issues here, or re-visit that which >has been settled, but I have to admit that as a lister I was a bit >ashamed of the treatment that Mr. Berlin received at the hands of some >of our listers. It's easy to see from reading his postings that he is >a reasonable man operating with only the best and most sincere >intentions. I hope he can find it in himself to "forgive and forget", >as he definitely seems to be a person willing and able to make a >contribution to this forum. > >I remember an incident a few months back where some new zealot >(wrongly) took issue with something our own Fred Hink wrote. At the >time he didn't know that Fred's face is carved on Mount KLR right up >there with Gino's, Bill's, and Kurt's. This resulted in a senseless >tirade (posted on the list) that served no purpose other than to serve >as this person's own monument to ignorance. Fred, being the class guy >that he is, didn't even bother with a rebuttal. The true sign of a >man who knows what he's about... I remember all this very distinctly >because the village idiot in this case was... ME! Can you imagine >making some cheesy remarks to Fred and then sticking around long >enough to realize not only what he means to this list but to our type >of riding in general? The embarrassment... Quick! Where's the >lesson in this?! As there has to be SOMETHING redeeming after one has >made a complete ass of themselves in front of all their peers! In >this case (and there have been many) I walked away with the firm >belief that Juan Villarreal's initial opinions/instincts are often >just plain WRONG, and that it doesn't hurt to wait a bit before >pulling the trigger. I'm so thankful now for the fact that I didn't >weigh in one way or another when the initial hysteria struck (tho' I >must admit I was helped along a bit by my ignorance of all things >internet). > >Apologies to you Mr. Berlin, along with Mr. Hink. May things like this >not happen again.... > >Juan Villarreal, '97 KLR >"The Humbled Hooligan" >_________________________________________________________ >DO YOU YAHOO!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 03:32:19 -0700 From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR- Hmmmm-Dads >At 06:29 PM 4/17/99 -0600, Kurt Simpson wrote: >>... After a couple of minutes, my dad, doing most of the paddling at this >>point, simply said, "makes a person feel kind of cheesy doesn't it?" > >Thank you for that. A gutsy List Administrator. My dad didn't do >anything like that, but once he almost got beat up in front of us kids when >a large man said something mean when Dad put mayonaise on a hot dog. I've >been compensating ever since by drinking mustard. > My dad had a way of talking to people, and could talk his way into getting permission to hunt formidably posted lands from the most American Gothic looking farmers you ever seen. Wouldn't you know they'd be lifelong friends after talking to my dad for a while, and would usually grab their own shotguns and come out and join us, showing us where the good spots are. Once we got to hunt in grand style, in front of the wheat combine as it was harvesting the winter wheat. Once our Wagoneer blew the head gasket. We pulled into a farmer's field, and walked to the house. My dad talked to the guy, and the guy came out with his tools and gave my dad a hand. The farmer turned to me and asked if I had a fishing rod, and to try the stream behind his barn. I caught four big rainbow trout within ten minutes there, with a fly rod, and I've been in love with fly fishing ever since. It's too bad that the world isn't like this as much anymore, where now "Trespassers will be shot" signs mean just that. Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 03:37:38 -0700 From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" Subject: Re: (klr650) (NKLR) Waving > >>P.P.S. Vik and Arne- I'm still not sure if I'll be in town on the weekend >of >>the 8th (rafting??)...but if it works out and you are up for some local >>touring we should definitely hook up. > > >Sounds like you had a gas. We'd love to meet up for some beers etc.. >Unfortunately it's not a bike venture. We'll be in Vik's truck (with his >bike in the back) as he's dropping it off at Ride West (?) to have some >scookum, NASA bike computer installed. > >Arne - we'll keep you posted. > I keep telling you guys, you gotta at least have lunch at Rositas, which is a couple of doors down the street from Ride West BMW, on the same side. Some of the best Mexican food this side of the border. That neighborhood is called Greenlake, and Ride West is on Woodlawn Ave. My wife and my first apartment was just a block from there, and here parents live about six blocks south on Woodlawn. Sorry I'm stuck over here in Eastern Washington. Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 03:49:35 -0700 From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" Subject: Re: (klr650) Tried FRS Radios on bikes today......Interesting I'm a little confused as to what band this radio operates in, line of sight, or AM. If its line of sight, you are pretty limited to the one mile plus radius, mostly due to the radio's broadcast power output, and FCC regulations. I could teach you how to improve the reception and transmission capabilities of your radio, but these "field expedient antannas", like a long wire directional, could only be used when stationary. An AM radio, like a CB can get more range, especially with a signal that "skips" between the atmosphere and the ground, but there are dead recption zones with skip transmissions. I guess I'm not the guy to ask, even though I was highly trained in wireless commo. I'm just not to familiar with the comercial products out there. Jeff >I have been toying with this idea myself for a little while. I purchased a >pair of Cobra mini 40 channel radios with weather. 45wxst is the model >number. 2.5"x5.75"x1.5" size wise ,powered by 6aa batteries. They come >with 12v power socket plugs and the battery case slides off making the >whole thing about the size of a conventional cb mike with a rubber ducky >antennae and a belt clip. I have only played with them in the yard so I >don't have a feel for their range, however I was under the impression it >would be much greater than family band radios (this is speculation on my >part). I am not very knowledgeable about the technical aspects of radio >transmission but I bet between our military trained list contingent and the >aircraft pilots and technicians here, someone here could school us. >The place where I purchased them said they were becoming very popular with >motorcyclists. They offer numerous mike and earpiece combinations with push >to talk buttons. One interesting unit was a tiny intercom with a cd >player/fm radio input so 2 people on the same bike could converse with one >another and listen to music....voice activated blanking on the music....this >intercom plugs into the portable cb and the push to talk button lets you >transmit to another radio....pretty slick. They carry everyone's radio line >Cobra, Uniden, Midland, Maxon, Motorola etc. >Sound Radio Products >1 800 684-7777 >www.eskimo.com >12329 2nd St. Lake Stevens Wa. >email..... SoundRadio@aol.com >They were very nice people to do business with and about 20% cheaper than >what I found on the shelf locally. >Morgan >10/4 good buddy > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 03:51:58 -0700 From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" Subject: Re: (klr650) Tried FRS Radios on bikes today......Interesting >Please forgive my Canadian ignorance, but who's Sam That's Sam Walmart. To some he was a godsend for American Consumerism, to others he's the capitalist antichrist. Sam's club is a merchandise wholesaler, much like Costco. Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 03:59:23 -0700 From: dennis harper Subject: (klr650) remove please REMOVE me from your list ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 10:40:31 -0400 From: Rob Heywood Subject: (klr650) unsubscribe while i am away!! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 09:09:57 -0600 From: Jeff Subject: (klr650) Re:Kawa Optional Windshield. Fred Hink wrote: > > Best to all and am looking now following the threads regarding the new Kawa > > optional windshield. > > ---- > > Jeff, NM, KLR650-A13 > > > > > > > > Hello Jeff, > > I will be getting in more of those windshields either tomorrow or on > Tuesday. > > Fred Fred, Do you have any performance reports on the Kawasaki optional windshield? I'd like to know does one have to lean into it to gain wind/bug protection at 75 MPH? - my average speed. :^) The unit sounds like it is priced right but, how does it work at 70-80 MPH? You know what they say, "The proof is in the pudding." Thanks, - -- Jeff, NM, KLR650-A13 --- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Apr 99 08:37:01 PDT From: "Marick Payton" Subject: (klr650) folding mirrors I tried to order Meier folding dual sport mirrors but they are no longer available. I've not ordered a BikeMaster folding or swiveling (hard to tell which from the catalog description) mirror to see how that works. Will let you know, once I've gotten it. Marick ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 08:38:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Juan Villarreal Subject: (klr650) NKLR- A ride... > they even have a koshare > called the 'happy hooligan' or something like > that. > > Tobin'Slide'Lampson Koshare, hmmmm... I hope that's a good thing... Juan Villarreal, '97 KLR "The Befuddled Hooligan" _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 10:50:08 -0500 From: "John L. Wilson" Subject: (klr650) unsubscribe Unsubscribe - -- =========================================================== John L. Wilson '95 KLR 650 '96 R1100RT STOC #090 Jlwilsn@flash.net HSTA #5817 IBMWR BMWMOA Tulsa, OK =========================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 11:19:28 -0600 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: (klr650) Tire changing question.. I've got my rear tire off and am changing it out. The tube came out with two 12mm nuts one on the inside of the wheel one on the outside of the wheel. Is the one on the inside supposed to be there or is it a remnant of someone who forgot to take it off before? Thanks, Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 11:41:27 -0600 From: "Fred Hink" Subject: (klr650) Re: (dr350) Tire changing question.. - ----- Original Message ----- From: Kurt Simpson To: DR List ; KLR650-List Sent: Sunday, April 18, 1999 11:19 AM Subject: (dr350) Tire changing question.. > I've got my rear tire off and am changing it out. The tube came out with two 12mm nuts one on > the inside of the wheel one on the outside of the wheel. Is the one on the inside supposed to > be there or is it a remnant of someone who forgot to take it off before? > > Thanks, > > Kurt > > > Hi Kurt, The nut on the inside is the one that holds the tube to the valve stem. Some bikes use a nut on the outside to hold the valve stem to the rim (which I don't think is a good idea) and for sealing the gap around the valve stem to keep dirt and water out. My XR has a larger hole in the rim for the valve stem and a rubber cover over the gap. This will let the valve stem move around some without pulling it out of the tube. You only need one nut on the inside and check it to make sure it is snug. Fred ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 14:39:37 EDT From: K650dsn@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) Shoei RF-800 In a message dated 4/17/99 8:24:56 PM Mountain Daylight Time, alarsen@rapidnet.net writes: << I've heard that Gino wears his around, even when he's not wearing his helmet >> Yep, it makes me look like I still have hair. Gino ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 15:07:26 -0400 From: "bob kaub" Subject: (klr650) Shoei Test NKLR I just got back from a 40 mile test of the new helmet. It fits me very nicely and is a joy to wear. BUT: Boy is it noisy. How can this be, since it's supposed to be one of the quietest helmets around. Well, turns out it's turbulent air from the bike hitting the helmet and making it vibrate and making it loud. I discovered this by leaning to the side (both) out away from the windshield and just like magic it got smooth and very quiet. Well, this is weird. I tried all kinds of positions and moving my free hand around trying to identify the airstream that's causing the turbulence. No luck. At about 40mph, the helmet starts to get noisy, above 60mph, it's noisy and actually vibrates. There's no way you could stand this for very long on an interstate run. It would very tiring after a short time. I have the 16 inch Rifle windshield on the bike. Anybody have any ideas? Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 10:16:08 -0700 From: "e. rhoads" Subject: Re: (klr650) Shoei RF-800 > > << I've heard that Gino wears his around, even when he's not wearing his > helmet >> > > Yep, it makes me look like I still have hair. > > Gino > What I want is one that has some hair poking out under the front...gives a real kick in the butt to the illusion. eric ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 15:10:08 -0400 From: "bob kaub" Subject: (klr650) Helmet Art NKLR Now that I have another shiny white helmet, it cries out for some personalization. I have an American eagle on my other Shoei so that if I get captured by the hell's angels maybe they will just kill me quickly. What's cool right now? Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 16:38:26 EDT From: Ztib@aol.com Subject: (klr650) Cheese Trail At 7:15 AM a friend who owns a GS called to see if I wanted to ride to Monroe, Wisconsin to "do" the Cheese Trail. Of course, I agreed. Departure at 8:30am, temp in low 40s. 114 miles to Monroe. My Tengai and his GS made decent road companions, but it was clear he had the advantage on the highway. Th trail is groomed gravel and is 47 miles long. From Monroe to Mineral Point, WI. Mostly ATVs. It is a single lane and you can travel both ways, so staying right is important. It is good enough to be a bicylce trail for older women. But, it is fun. Speed limit is 30 mph, 15 mph on bridges (lots of them). It is easy to hit 70 mph. There are a couple areas where you can wander off the trail, probably illegally, and find some areas that are extremely rutted up the the ATV crowd. We traded bikes on the trail. Big differences between the GS and Tengai. Both are fun bikes. My preference is for the lighter Tengai when not on a highway. But that seemed to equalize on the way home when the Wisconsin Trooper politely informed both of us that we were doing 70 mph in a 55 zone. Frankly, the Cheese Trail could be easily done by any street bike -- well, maybe you would not want to do it on a H-D. It is a fun trip and you are never far from a real road.. It is a great way to experience "off road" without really jeopardizing anything. Pleasant way to spend an afternoon. Beautiful roads in the area if you want to tear up some blacktop. Dualsport, you know. ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V2 #293 ****************************