From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V2 #301 Reply-To: klr650 Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Tuesday, April 20 1999 Volume 02 : Number 301 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:19:17 -0700 From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" Subject: (klr650) Just ordered my SU racks Just got off the phone with Tim, and can't wait until I get them. Unfortunately he'll have to make them, and that will have to wait until after Moab. I'm making my own set of Cooler Panniers. I'll be using Tim's idea for mounting them, but unlike his coolers, mine are collapsible, and so when not in use will be folded flat and remain on the bike. I got the idea to use collapsible coolers from Mark, mjv2+AEA-psu.edu . He sent me some great scans of his set up, and I decided it was the way to go. I got my coolers from Costco, they're made by +ACI-California Innovations+ACI-, I think they hold 40 cans. Anyway, looking forward to getting my hands on the racks, and completing this project, which I started over a month ago. BTW, I think that the new SU racks would work just fine for soft luggage as well, just like his first side protectors. When I'm done I'll take pictures. Jeff--Now I just need to hear from Fred so I can spend even more money. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:20:52 -0700 (PDT) From: dan shaw Subject: (klr650) NKLR pants for sale hello, I have a pair of Joe Rocket Ballistic Pants for sale. They are new, i bought them from a dealer who special ordered them and they dont give returns on special orders. they are a medium and a slighly too short for me. I am about 6 ft tall 132 waist. i like the pants and have ordered a large (from a different dealer), so i have this pair id like to get rid of. check out their web site at http://www.joerocket.com/html/motorcycle.htm The pants have armor in the knees, hips and lower back and are water proof and breathable. they are red and black. if anyone is interested let me know. i bought them for $140 and would sell them for $90 obo. have fun, Dan Shaw _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:22:04 +0200 From: "Gurol Caydas" Subject: Re: (klr650) (NKLR) The BMW Myth - -----Original Message----- From: Alex Jomarron To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Date: 20 Nisan 1999 Sal=FD 17:18 Subject: (klr650) (NKLR) The BMW Myth >I truly believe the BMW myth was created during the 60s early 70s when >othe manufacturers bikes did not have the longevity of the BMW (and >... >My 82 R100RS had 180,000 miles on it when sold. It needed maintenance. >Near then end it was a pain in the ass. My K75S is nearly maintenance >free. I have friends who have 250,000 miles on the original top end. Tha= t I ride a BWM which is 1954. and it is workin well even today. i think it = had over 500.000 miles. gurol. A11 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:06:11 -0500 From: "Polston, Doug" Subject: (klr650) I'm back I'm back on the list. Several weeks ago I post questions about 88 KLR with 2600 miles for $1500, well I bought it. Then I posted a questions concerning shipping the bike from Maryland to Kansas (lot of good repossess). Making a long story short I FINALLY convinced my brother to meet me half way, Indianapolis. It just so happen that Microsoft had workshop in Indianapolis last weekend and my company PAID me .29 cents a mile to drive to Indy. And it just so happen my brother could meet me there with the bike COOL!!!!! I absolutely love the bike!!!!! I had never ridden one until now. I have six bikes and none put a smile on my face like the KLR!!! Rural Kansas has numerous dirt road and allot of roads with "Travel at your own risk" signs. I did find out that if the water is above the mid-calf (feet on the pegs) the bike will flood out. Doug Kansas ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:59:33 -0600 From: Mike Sonzini Subject: (klr650) Helge Pederson Helge Pederson will be doing his presentation in Salt Lake City next Tuesday. It will be at the University of Utah Fine Arts Auditorium on 27 April @ 7:00 PM. Tickers are $12 @ BMW of SLC (801-972-6922) and Redbones BBQ (801-463-4800). Limited seating availibility. This may be on the way home for some of those heading home after a weekend in Moab. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 22:20:46 +0100 From: "Andy Burton" Subject: Re: (klr650) Chain cleaning I have used parrafin to clean my chain while it's still on the bike. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 17:53:35 EDT From: MOTOBEEM@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) Deliverance Tom, Congratulations on your new KLR! You should carefully check the throttle grip area and the cable routing. The throttle should operate VERY easily. My temp gauge moves a little off the peg under normal riding in cool conditions. When riding in 85 degree+, it is around 1/4 up the gauge. When idling in traffic it'll move up toward the red and the fan will kick on and bring it back down. My new KLR was delivered with the forks up 2" out of the tripple clamp, the chain was too tight, and the cable routing was incorrect. Geeesh! The stock seat is better than most dual sports but the "special" Corbin seat made my KLR extremely comfortable. Progressive fork springs are an easy, $70 improvement. This is a wonderfully fun, comfortable, and versatile motorcycle. You'll love it! Richard Sanders A13 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 18:45:57 EDT From: Ztib@aol.com Subject: (klr650) Mixing Tires -- a question I have a Tengai with a new Dunlop Trail Max on the front and a rear Trail Max that is at the end of it's life. I need a rear tire. I'd like to go to something other than the Trail Max. Maybe a Gripster, maybe a cheap Bridgestone. The bike is used primarily for the street, off road is limited to trails and dirt roads. My questiion is: Can I mix brands front and rear? Certainly I would not mix bias with radial. Any experience or advice would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:58:45 -0400 From: Stuart Heaslet Subject: Re: (klr650) Borg gossip...you heard it here first... At 05:53 AM 4/20/99 -0600, Kurt Simpson wrote: >I warned the list about what might happen if Obe Wan and Dr. Moreau came together...it is not >going to be a pretty marriage! J...He has his own fabricator for >aluminum panniers, larger on the left, smaller on the right. You choose how they open top or >side (ala Jake Jakeman's traveling kitchen...come to think of it that might be the ideal setup, >get one of each)... Somehow I got a bargain (ouch) from Al Jesse when he sold me a set of black panniers for US$700. Maybe they're at 900 now, I don't really know. The real reason for the post: There's got to be a way to set extra fuel forward of an aluminum pannier. Helge Pedersen started in Norway with jerry cans aft of the panniers, then moved them to the forward edge for better weight distribution. I would love to see a thin profile fuel tank (2 gallons or so?) clipped onto the front face of a pannier box. An optional extra 3 or 4 gallons on a KLR would be great. And if Obe Wan and Senor Moreau came together at a precision welding shop in Mexico, we could all benefit. Please, no comments about NAFTA or social ills, I'm just lookin' for cheap parts. Stuart Juno Beach, FL ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:37:09 -0400 From: Tom Simpson Subject: Re: (klr650) Mixing Tires -- a question At 06:45 PM 4/20/99 EDT, Ztib@aol.com wrote: >I have a Tengai with a new Dunlop Trail Max on the front and a rear Trail Max >that is at the end of it's life. I need a rear tire. I'd like to go to >something other than the Trail Max. Maybe a Gripster, maybe a cheap >Bridgestone. The bike is used primarily for the street, off road is limited >to trails and dirt roads. My questiion is: Can I mix brands front and rear? I have run Avon Gripsters in the front and a Bridgestone Spitfiore on the rear of mine in the pas and now run the front Gripster and an Avon Roadrunner on the rear. Two more different tires are hadt to imagine but they actualy work quite well. - -Tom '96 KLR 650 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:16:30 +0000 From: Jeffrey Doyle Subject: Re: (klr650) Re: Waving KenReither@aol.com wrote: > > Where I live, people sometimes wave, sometimes they don't. It doesn't seem > to matter what brand of bike they are riding. Sometimes I wave, sometimes I > don't. VERY OFTEN, the other biker waves, but I see the wave only after it's > too late to for me to return the wave. Perhaps I'm considered unfriendly in > these cases. > > You see, I spend an awful lot of time carefully watching the pavement, > looking for loose dirt, oil patches, potholes, junk on the road, and etc. > And watching for cars pulling out and so forth. When the road is wide open, > I often wave. When the road is tight and there's lots of traffic, I > concentrate on safety, not on being friendly. > > Maybe that's whats going on with other riders, too. > > Ken Reither > Kingwood, TX Ken, Ride to survive is priority one. When I see an approaching bike I check my surroundings as well so that when I wave I don't compromise safety. But I do keep my line of site down range ready to detect movement towards my path from a dog, deer, or other subject....not to mention road debris. Also I find it good to be discrete about how I wave or when because there are situations where riders must not be distracted like at intersections or accessing highways. Also I usually wave in such a way that a cager might not mistake me signaling for a right hand turn. Jeff A2 AMA ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:29:52 -0400 From: "Bob Zeliff" Subject: Re: (klr650) BMW F650 (nklr) Isn't Rotax owned by Bombardier...a Canadian Company, head quartered in Quebec. wouldn't French influence contribute to the Gaulic heritage of the F650? Bob A10 R11RT XLCR - -----Original Message----- From: Arne Larsen To: Yusseri Yusoff ; KLR650 Mailing List Date: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 3:00 AM Subject: Re: (klr650) BMW F650 (nklr) >You are correct if memory serves me correctly. The engine is Rotax, and the >frame etc.. is Aprilla. > >Arne - the man of a million questions > >-----Original Message----- >From: Yusseri Yusoff >To: KLR650 Mailing List >Date: April 19, 1999 11:23 AM >Subject: Re: (klr650) BMW F650 (nklr) > > >> >>On Mon, 19 Apr 1999, Berlin, Brian wrote: >> >>> >>> The F650 has an ITALIAN engine in it. Not German! Italy is also >> >>Eh? I thought they were Austrian Rotax engines... >> >>Yus >> > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 18:46:56 -0700 From: "Kathleen" Subject: Re: (klr650) [NKLR] Converting Canadian $ to US $ <> So, How many markies is that? Kathleen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:41:56 EDT From: Krgrife@aol.com Subject: (klr650) Acerbis skid plate part # For those who have had trouble finding this part the part # is 19951806, don't let your dealer tell you it doesn't exist because Acerbis has them in stock in Ca, I got one last month shipped to my dealer same day it was ordered. List is $40.00. I am happy with it but be warned that it fits very snug-especially on the left side. Regards, Kurt Grife Avila Beach, Ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 22:01:44 EDT From: Roundr1@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) [NKLR] Converting Markies $ to US $ <> >So, How many markies is that? >Kathleen The noted economist Ajax theorizes that the Markie market rises and falls daily in direct proportion to your SO's tolerance of spending grocery money on bike parts. In today's economy, one Markie = US$500 John O. A10 -who's saving enough Markies for a rainy day...honest honey ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:58:12 EDT From: RUSIG1@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) 1st tank of gas Greetings, on my A13 I mounted the license plate utilizing the bottom two holes of the plate attached to the bracket.The top of the plate fits real snugly against the plate light housing it seems this setup will work.I went to that link on relocating the plate bracket but it seems my way will hold the plate higher as none of it sticks down below the fender and it requires no drilling. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:18:18 -0600 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: Re: (klr650) [NKLR] Converting Canadian $ to US $ ><> > >So, How many markies is that? > >Kathleen ah...One Candian = 67 shiny US pennies = 0.00134 markies Now, you can begin to appreciate the brilliance of my currency invention. It costs practically nothing in markies to get hinked out..."yes...Dear....no Dear....you are absolutely right...it is an addiction...I don't know what kind of pain I'm avoiding.....yes....I got it from Fred....not much...well.... about 1/2 markie....see...." "what?, how much was the new Emglo compressor that I bought so I could change my own tires at home?...only 3/4 of a markie....another bargain" Kurt Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:58:47 -0600 From: "Fred Hink" Subject: Re: (klr650) Acerbis skid plate part # I ordered the last one Acerbis had for the KLR, according to Acerbis, a couple of weeks ago. They also told me that Acerbis is not making any more plastic skid plates for any models. Boo hoo. I liked their skid plates. Maybe if enough of you twist their arm they will change their minds and make some more like the front disc guard which by the way is still not made yet as far as I know. I am calling them again tomorrow and will report what they tell me this time. The Kawasaki wind shield didn't show up today as promised but hopefully it will be here tomorrow. Fred - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 7:41 PM Subject: (klr650) Acerbis skid plate part # > For those who have had trouble finding this part the part # is 19951806, > don't let your dealer tell you it doesn't exist because Acerbis has them in > stock in Ca, I got one last month shipped to my dealer same day it was > ordered. List is $40.00. I am happy with it but be warned that it fits very > snug-especially on the left side. > Regards, > Kurt Grife > Avila Beach, Ca > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:05:26 -0700 From: "Darrel & Deanna" Subject: (klr650) White Rim Trail WRT seems to be the premiere trail in Moab when it comes to scenery. What can be expected as far as riding difficulty? What are the most challenging parts like? Is an aftermarket skid plate *required* on a KLR650? What about other trails in Moab? TIA, Darrel A12 'avenger' ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:25:24 -0600 From: "Fred Hink" Subject: Re: (klr650) White Rim Trail Wellllll, I just did the White Rim on Saturday. The hardest parts are probably the steep areas around Potato Bottom and Murphy's Hogback. There is some deep sand but it is not bad now. The steep areas aren't "that" steep but one of my riding buddies did break his foot on this last ride coming down to Potato Bottom. I passed a KLR and a Beemer at the start of this ride just inside the Park on the Green River side. Anybody here want to fess up? It was a great day until I had to show off in front of a bunch of mountain bikers and the front end washed out on some loose rocks in an off camber turn. I almost saved it but the left mirror "touched" a rock and broke into a gazillion pieces. Didn't even touch the grips or the hand guards. The next fun part was near Washer Woman Arch when I noticed my NEW Supertrapp getting louder. I stopped to find that the center mounting bolt had pulled out a chunk of the connector pipe about the size of a half dollar. STRIKE TWO!! Then to top it off about 15 minutes later I hear more rattling than usual coming from the rear. I stop again and low and behold I find that my sub frame is broken. STRIKE THREE!!! I decide I have had enough. The White Rim wins. I head up Schaffer Trail to the highway and wait for my ridding buddies at the turn off to Dead Horse Point. Back to the truck and drink beer and eat till around midnite. Felt much better then. If you want to ride the White Rim at the given speed limit (15mph) you won't need the skid plate, but to be safe I would use one. You will need the Moab East and Moab West maps to find some of the good riding trails here in Moab. I sell them for $8.95 each and stop into my shop and I can point out some good places to start. Fred Hink ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Arrowhead Motorsports http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/ 435-259-7356 Fax 435-259-9148 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ - ----- Original Message ----- From: Darrel & Deanna To: KLR list Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 9:05 PM Subject: (klr650) White Rim Trail > WRT seems to be the premiere trail in Moab when it comes to scenery. What > can be expected as far as riding difficulty? What are the most challenging > parts like? Is an aftermarket skid plate *required* on a KLR650? What > about other trails in Moab? TIA, Darrel A12 'avenger' > > > ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V2 #301 ****************************