From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V2 #304 Reply-To: klr650 Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Wednesday, April 21 1999 Volume 02 : Number 304 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 13:56:14 -0700 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Carlos_Y._Gonz=E1lez?=" Subject: Re: (klr650) BMW F650 (nklr) > > really like to get my hands on the godless communist SOB that > > first decided to sell them here in the states. Believe me, I > > could rant and rave on this topic for hours. >=20 > As could many other people who don't like, say motorcyclists. >=20 > > At first I blamed > > only the operators, but this conflicts with my belief in the > > basic goodness of people, and that only leaves the common > > denominator, the manufacturer. >=20 > I'm more a "personal responsability" type. Watercraft are REALLY FUN, > and CAN be ridden responsibly, just like motorcycles. Unfortunately, > just as with our beloved two wheelers, there are a lot of irresponsable > folks out there.... Last summer when I was visiting the family in Puerto Rico, I had the opportunity to go on a ride with my uncle and aunt on couple of watercraf= t (the three place seadoos). These things are serious machines powerwise (can you imagine almost 1000cc of two stroke? WOW!) and they are also seriously FUN machines. My uncle goes touring around the island on his, just like we tour on our KLR's. Its pretty neat, a group of machines usually go on long trips together, just so they can rely on each other if one of them breaks down (well, they are two strokes). These machines hav= e enough room to pack lunch and dinner for a whole day outing, and enough power to tow home your broken down friends. It's amazing the beatiful things you can see out on the coastal waters of the Carribean once you ge= t out of the busy beach areas, talk about freedom! If I lived in PR again,= I think I would Seadoo more than motorcylce, especially since there on a bi= ke you can't really escape congested areas too easily, but on a Seadoo, you usually launch out of a busy beach can easily escape civilization in abou= t a minute flat, very appealing. Unfortunately, there are many irresposible riders on Seadoos down there that are killing themselves (not a concern) and innocent beach goers (concern) by not being careful. Obviously, these machines tend to congregate in busy beach areas (for launching and for posing) and most people decide to "play" with them right there. This leads to often fatal collisions between watercraft users, and with swimmers. It's very sad... in fact, a swimmer was killed by a watercraft at the beach we launched ou= t of the very morning my uncle and I went on our ride. However, thankfully= , Puerto Rico is starting to require liscensing for watercraft users, and they have been strictly enforcing speed limits in beach areas (ironically= , with more expensive fines than they have for speeding in cars). I personally think that education and strict law enforcement is what is necessary if you are to get people to think twice before they do somethin= g stupid on these things. =20 For a while, local governments in PR were even discussing banning watercraft on their beaches. Thankfully that seemed to die down once enforcement of new laws was done in ernest. A ban on these things would = be sad in such a beatiful place as Puerto Rico or any other coastal waters where so much can be done with them. But I can understand bans in a lot = of the small busy lakes in the US mainland. Especially considering that you really can't do much with them in small lakes, besides tear up the place and make lots of blue smoke. Thanks for the bandwidth, Carlos (I'd buy one if it was a four stroke) Gonz=E1lez A5 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 02:54:55 -0700 From: "Dale J. Voigt" Subject: (klr650) Lone Rider Coming home from Reno yesterday I saw a guy heading south on I-82 into Umatilla, OR. Just crossing the Columbia River. Looked like a '91-'93. Rider wearing yellow, bike loaded, saddle bags and all. Anybody from the list? Riding from/to? Dale J. Voigt '93 Kennewick, WA ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:53:31 EDT From: GVBettes@aol.com Subject: (klr650) Re: klr650-digest V2 #302 In a message dated 4/20/99 10:02:18 PM Pacific Daylight Time, owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com writes: > My ass hurts on my bike too (new A13) but I'm not giving up on it right > away. I think that it's a good thing that the foam is kinda hard at this > stage. If it was too soft it wouldn't be any good - no support. The way it > is it should break-in after a few more miles. You want a seat that's firm > in the beginning. I lived with the poor seat for 2 1/2 years. Was getting fed up and ready to change bikes. Last Oct. I got a Russell seat made. This is the best improvement I have made to a bike in 27 years of riding. Gary J & H ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:32:59 -0400 From: Mark Subject: Re: (klr650) Fw: Overtime (NKLR) I'd say it's time to switch your ISP. Mark (enjoying his free academic account) B2 A2 At 9:28 PM -0700 4/20/99, Arne Larsen wrote: >I pay $15 a month for 60 hours. Now look what you guys made me do :^) > >Arne > >-----Original Message----- >From: Accounting >To: alarsen@rapidnet.net >Date: April 20, 1999 4:27 PM >Subject: Overtime > > >>Dear Arne Larsen: >> >>During the month of March you went over your alloted time by 19 hours and 4 >>minutes. The cost of this is $19.08 plus pst $1.34 and gst $1.34 for a >>total of $ 21.76. >> >> >>Thanks >> >>Please send a cheque to: >> >>RapidNet Technologies Inc. >>#3-31018 Peardonville Rd. >>Abbotsford, B.C. >>V2S 5W6 >> >>Thanks >>Accounting >>RapidNet Technologies Inc. >>acct@rapidnet.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:51:28 -0600 From: Jeff Subject: (klr650) VViiibratttiionssss. Has anyone tried these Anti Vibration Bar End Weights to cut down on mirror vibrations? Do they work? I know they would work for grip vibrations but, how about the mirrors? - -- Jeff, KLR650-A13 --- http://www.flash.net/~n5ujj - Down Home Page http://www.flash.net/~n5ujj/hamstuff - HAM It UP Page ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:06:40 -0700 From: Christopher J Beasley Subject: Re: (klr650) VViiibratttiionssss. Well, I would have, except I have the Acerbis guards, and they plug in on the ends of the bars. I will fill the bar with vinyl caulk when I have the chance, and I have the very Hink XR mirrors on my KLR. They're made with built in vibration dampers, are highly adjustable, more aerodynamic, hold their adjustment better, etc. b Jeff wrote: > Has anyone tried these Anti Vibration Bar End Weights to cut down on mirror > vibrations? Do they work? I know they would work for grip vibrations but, > how about the mirrors? > -- > Jeff, KLR650-A13 --- > http://www.flash.net/~n5ujj - Down Home Page > http://www.flash.net/~n5ujj/hamstuff - HAM It UP Page ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:27:30 PDT From: "cosmo bojinski" Subject: (klr650) deer whistle greetings listers and losters, in the past little while I've seen references to the unpleasant thought of contact with deer on the road. My friend at work has two of those little plastic deer whistles installed on his street yamaha. A previous owner installed them so he just left them on. I have also seen a klr with one of these installed on top of the front fender.I had always dismissed these as "gimicky",but hey,if they work,its a cheap deterrent, and I'd definitely consider it.Anyone have any thoughts on this? While I'm on the subject of animals. Bill S.,the "Moose" has a trunk? must have an impressive horn set-up:) sorry, must be the coffee..cosmo ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:31:36 -0600 From: "Pokluda, Gino F" Subject: RE: (klr650) deer whistle >> had always dismissed these as "gimicky",but hey,if they work,its a cheap deterrent, and I'd definitely consider it.Anyone have any thoughts on this? While I'm on the subject of animals.<< I've never used them, but heard you have to use two of them and they have to have some distance between them for them to work effectively. I'm sure they work at all, but maybe they do. Gino ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:57:20 -0400 From: duftler@us.ibm.com Subject: (klr650) NKLR - Personal Watercraft >>If you'd like. You've got a lot of excellent points. I think >part of the >>problem was created when these machines hit the market, and >there was no >>legislation in place to control them. This led to kids, who >wouldn't be >>able to get a drivers licence yet, going ape shit on the water. >That's not >>to say that there are a not lot of irresponsible adults out >there too, but >>these machines (like a sportbike) lend themselves to going fast. >> >For that matter, I have seen irresponsible boat skippers too, but >they are fewer and farther in between. While I am the last guy >to subscribe to more government, I am in favor of a special boat >license, just like a special motorcycle endorsement on your >drivers license. By applying for the endorsement, paying for the >license, and taking a written test, at least some level of >responsibility and accountability will be put on the water. The >license fee and test fee should pay for the cost of enacting >this. Jeff & Arne, I agree with all your points. Though I live in New York, I used to use my boat up at Candlewood Lake in Connecticut. It used to be a beautiful family-type lake, until the PWC thing got real popular; it turned into a free-for-all. People were afraid to let their kids walk on the sand bars anymore, because the PWC'ers were jumping them. Anyway, the state of CT and the DEP decided to require boating licenses. There are now separate licenses required for boaters, and PWC'ers. Neither license is easy or fast to get. Now the lake is basically back to normal. Presumably, the riders/boaters have more education, and they also probably don't want to risk having the licenses that took them so long to earn, get taken away. Also, when they instituted the new rules, they did it intelligently. The rules were phased in over 2 years or so, and there was a grandfather clause: if you had a registered boat a certain number of years ago (5, I believe), you were automatically granted the license for an administrative fee. FYI: http://dep.state.ct.us/rec/boating/boatfaq.htm Matt Duftler Tarrytown, NY '86 Wellcraft 190 American I/O ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:59:26 +0000 From: Sarah Barwig Subject: (klr650) were you at willow last weekend? NKLR I saw a KLR parked at the AMA races at Willow Springs - around 3500 miles, clean (oy, that my bike could be that clean) I thought about leaving a note, but then realized that you might not be from the list, so I didn't. But then I saw the rear racks from Obe Wan for the Ortliebs and I knew I had to post something on the list. Anyway, nice bike. :) Sarah - -- Sarah Barwig Developer WeddingChannel.com (213) 599-4144 888 S. Figueroa St., Suite 700 Los Angeles, CA, 90017 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:22:14 -0600 From: Mike Sonzini Subject: Re: (klr650) deer whistle > My friend at work has two of those little plastic deer whistles > installed on his street yamaha..I had always dismissed these as > "gimicky",but hey,if they work,its a cheap deterrent, and I'd > definitely consider it.Anyone have any thoughts on this? I had them on my current truck, and my previous car. So far, I've only hit 3 deer with the deer whistles. I no longer have them on my truck. When the body shop replaced my entire front end, they neglected to put my deer whistles back on the bumper. Now that I think about it..........I haven't hit any deer in 6 years (since I quit using the gimicky things). I was going to suggest that it wouldn't hurt to try them, but my past history disagrees with that! Mike ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:37:55 -0700 (PDT) From: John Hooper Subject: (klr650) KLR rear suspension disassembly I'm looking for some information about disassembly of the rear suspension for my KLR 650. I am in the process of disassembling the rear suspension for the 6000 mile lubrication as called out in the service specs, and have hit a snag on getting the "uni-track" link (I think that is what Kawasaki calls it)off. This is the triangular casting that bolts to the shock and the rear of the frame. I have the swing arm off, and have removed the side plates and the 11" long, 7/8" dia. bolt by which the uni-track link is attached to the frame. I kinda expected the link to drop out on the ground when I drove the bolt out, but it is still attached. The shop manual shows what appears to be some type of sleeve along with the needle bearings and seals, and maybe I am supposed to drive that to one side or the other to get the link off, but I hate to pound on it without knowing for sure. My local Kawasaki dealer was no help (said they had never taken one apart, even though they have sold quite a few!!). If anyone can provide some help, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 13:42:37 -0400 From: MRatta@ADE.com Subject: RE: (klr650) KLR rear suspension disassembly You might try loosening the motor mounts at the back, maybe they are helping to compress the frame and hold the linkage in there. That part will be a bear to get back in.. I remember having to use a prybar and a plastic mallet to shoe it back in. You may want to just leave it be. I'm looking for some information about disassembly of the rear suspension for my KLR 650. I am in the process of disassembling the rear suspension for the 6000 mile lubrication as called out in the service specs, and have hit a snag on getting the "uni-track" link (I think that is what Kawasaki calls it)off. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:56:25 -0700 From: "e. rhoads" Subject: Re: (klr650) deer whistle > >> had always dismissed these as > "gimicky",but hey,if they work,its a cheap deterrent, and I'd > definitely consider it.Anyone have any thoughts on this? > > snip~ > I've never used them, but heard you have to use two of them and they have to > have some distance between them for them to work effectively. I'm sure they > work at all, but maybe they do. > snip~ I'd sure like to know if they work....they are reputed to work, but that's all I know. There's plenty of deer around here and the idea of hitting one is scary. So has anyone done the real world testing to provide a definitive answer? The whistles themselves are small and techy-looking, like Gino said, 'maybe they work' but if they had a whistle twice as big that screamed like a mountain lion I'd rather trust that. So does anyone know if there's good evidence for effectiveness? thanks, eric <<< to young to be among the deerly departed ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:58:33 -0600 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: Re: (klr650) Fw: Overtime (NKLR) >I pay $15 a month for 60 hours. Now look what you guys made me do :^) > >Arne Are you using the technique of going online to get your messages and then offline to read and compose responses and then online to post? If you are then I think your doing a little surfing my friend... Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:08:48 -0600 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: (klr650) Oil Level...NOT...NKLR Hey everyone, Marick has a big debate on oil level going on the KLX list...let's all go over and give them the raspberries...(g) Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:07:39 -0400 From: MRatta@ADE.com Subject: RE: (klr650) Oil Level...NOT...NKLR Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! not the evil oil level thread again. Anything but that! - -----Original Message----- From: Kurt Simpson [mailto:ajax@xmission.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 1999 2:09 PM To: KLR List Subject: (klr650) Oil Level...NOT...NKLR Hey everyone, Marick has a big debate on oil level going on the KLX list...let's all go over and give them the raspberries...(g) Kurt ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V2 #304 ****************************