From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V2 #329 Reply-To: klr650 Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Monday, April 26 1999 Volume 02 : Number 329 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:10:38 -0700 From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" Subject: Re: (klr650) Chris Beasley's Clutch/Kickstarter Install Part 1b > Oops! What are the drawbacks? >b > Well, any time in the future if you decide that you have to take the side cover off again, you'll spend an hour trying to get that stuff off of the mating surfaces. The gasket is there to prevent leaks, and if all is OK, does its job nicely. If you got overzealous in applying the stuff, it might bulge out on the inside of the case, come loose, and float around inside the oil until it lodges itself right where its sure to cause oil starvation to that expensive bearing. As mentioned before on the list, its not the best stuff to use, except when specifically called for. Skip can give you all of the specifics on RTV. Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:16:18 -0700 From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" Subject: Re: (klr650) Footpeg Problem NKLR >I weigh 170lbs - btw if that matters. > >Cheers, > >Vik Wow! Your box is bigger than you are! Jeff-225 lbs, and like the universe, is still expanding ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:23:11 -0700 From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" Subject: Re: (klr650) Footpeg Problem I agree, there will be some flex, but all the same, get somebody else to stand and bounce on your pegs, while you carefully observe the peg. Look for any stress cracks or faulty welds. Jeff - -----Original Message----- From: Mark To: KLR-List Cc: KLR-List Date: Monday, April 26, 1999 8:50 AM Subject: Re: (klr650) Footpeg Problem > >My footpeg mounts on both of my bikes are nice & tight, but they appear to >flex just a tad. I don't think it's from the rubber on the pegs as I have >serrated metal pegs on my A2. >I also think there's no problem with a small amount flex. >Mark >B2 >A2 > > >>>>> >>So there I was in my garage on my KLR (on its centre stand) doing my >>>best >>>>> >>Stefan Peterhansel impression. As I was launching of dune after dune >>I >>>>> >>noticed a loud squeaking sound from my right footpeg. Looking down I >>>can >>>>> >>see it move visibly .25" as I bounce up and down on the bike. >>>>> >> >>>>> >>I think holy S**t and tighten the two bolts holding it on (and the >>>centre >>>>> >>stand). figuring disaster was averted I jump back on to try and catch >>>>> >>Richard Sainct before the end of the stage....=) >>>>> >> >>>>> >>It is still squeaking and still moves a bit - say 0.1". What gives? >>>Is >>>>> >>this normal? I can just see myself impacting sensitive parts on my >>>tank >>>>> on >>>>> >>the White Rim Trail in June - ouch. Any advice would be appreciated. >>>>> >> >>>>> >>To clarify its not the peg which is moving put the mounting plate that >>>>> >>attached to the bike and to which the peg is pinned. >>>>> >> >>>>> >>Is there an aftermarket mounting plate? >>>>> >> >>>>> >>Cheers, >>>>> >> >>>>> >>Vik >>>>> >> >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:24:14 -0600 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: Re: (klr650) fuel filter... improvement? >flat put the sauce on that.... >So my question is....what gives, fuel filter a mistake? specific filter >needed? installed in wrong place?..... >...my wife always says "don't fix what ain't broke" 8^)....but I have to >play.... >thanks, NY Pete you didn't put it in with the arrow pointing in the wrong direction right? Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:27:00 -0700 From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" Subject: Re: (klr650) Two wires not connected to anything NKLR >Those are for "city lights" a European headlight convention. I haven't seen >city lights in this country since some of the really old Volkswagon beetles. >They were turn-signal strength bulbs placed in the headlight housing and >used the headlight reflector for some really dim illumination. In fact, >you'd probably find this explanation more illuminating than those silly >things. > >eric My '84 Peugeot 505 STI had these around the headlights. I thought that they were there just for cosmetics, and couldn't see any other reason for them. Fun car to drive, horrible car to work on (built by French Socialists, needed a special tool just to get the oil drain plug off.) Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:31:44 -0700 From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" Subject: Re: (klr650) Tires: 3.00-21 same as 90/90-21? Howdy All, Since 90mm of 90/90-21 converts out to 3.5" does a 3.00-21 tire fit the KLR front rim? TIA Jeff Smith Barnes, WI Yep, 3.00-21 tire on the front, and 5.10-17 on the rear. Jeff--A3 with IRC GP-1's in the above sizes. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:29:16 +1000 From: Ted Palmer Subject: Re: (klr650) (KLR650) New Record? Steve wrote: > Ok, who holds the record for the longest blinker-only ride home? Some of > you know what I'm talking about, others will have to wait for this KLR > treat. [...] Geez, after that _I_ wonder what the record is for affects of hypothermia on brain function! Mister_T ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:07:46 -0700 (PDT) From: "Rev. Chuck MacKarness" Subject: (klr650) (NKLR) Where is the soul in YOUR KLR? - --- "Berlin, Brian" wrote: ..."Does your bike have a soul?" and "If so, where does the soul of your bike reside?"... Gees Brian! Great question, I wish you were around when I was digging for a thesis topic... A bike with *A* soul... I have actually heard of soul riders, soulful rides, soul touching cornering ability, etc. but never a complete mechanical systems' soul. Wow, I look forward to the responses this list has to *that* question! We could even find out more than the demographics of the listers, maybe even answer some life long questions... I think the bikes soul resides in the rider, as the biological extension to the bike but that has to be my default response. :) === Rev. Chuck '99 KLR651 :^)>+ _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:41:33 EDT From: Krgrife@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) fuel filter... improvement? In a message dated 4/26/99 3:02:18 PM Pacific Daylight Time, sroller@frontiernet.net writes: > So my question is....what gives, fuel filter a mistake? specific filter > needed? installed in wrong place?.... As noted in an earlier post I use the basic little filter sold by most shops, Clearview is the brand I think. I have used them for years with no problem on bikes that need much more flow than our KLR's. Perhaps you just got a bad one. Also most of them are directional so there is always the possibility of putting it in backwards as I once did. Kurt Grife ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 21:09:36 -0400 From: "Preferred Customer" Subject: Re: (klr650) (NKLR) Where is the soul in YOUR KLR? - -----Original Message----- From: Rev. Chuck MacKarness To: Berlin, Brian ; 'klr650@lists.xmission.com' Date: Monday, April 26, 1999 7:09 PM Subject: (klr650) (NKLR) Where is the soul in YOUR KLR? >--- "Berlin, Brian" wrote: >..."Does your bike have a soul?" and "If so, where >does >the soul of your bike reside?"... > >Gees Brian! >Great question, I wish you were around when I was >digging for a thesis topic... I useta think my race bike had kinda "soul". Lots of people said it had "personality". When I'd pit with that baby at the track we got lots of looks. I kind of started getting into it, putting much more attention into racing than girl friends and such. Then, on good tires, in a flash, we low sided. I picked it up and realized it aint got squat for soul. It's a motorcycle. And you gotta be crazy not to think at some point it will "let you down". I finished my races that day and had fun, but no more carbon fiber or billet aluminum. I fixed my ground down shift lever with the handle part of a screwdriver - I dont even think it was a Stanley. BG ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 22:04:17 +0000 From: Jeffrey Doyle Subject: Re: (klr650) Pumpkin heads and helmets! Alan Henderson wrote: > > Let's talk helmets! > I am having trouble finding a full face helmet to buy. I have tried on > about everything I can get my hands on and still can't find what I need. > The closest I have come is a Shoei RFR, I can get the XL on but the XXL > probably fits better. My nose sits over the top of the chin bar but doesn't > touch either the bar or the face shield. The problem is that my face is > very close to the chin bar. Close enough I can touch the inside with my > lips without even trying hard and this is at a stand still not with the > wind pressure forcing it back. I tried on a Duotech in XXL and it was about > the same way but I don't really feel that the chin bar would offer much > protection in a crash as the lining foam is just soft foam that wouldn't > crush to absorb energy. I can get the largest HJC on but can't get it off > without ripping off my nose and it didn't really fit to well anyway. I > can't even get the largest Bieffie on because the chin bar hits the bridge > of my nose. I tried on the largest Nolan but it is to short front to back > and I couldn't even get the chin bar to latch. My face got in the way. I > like the idea of the Duotech-Sycrotech, Nolan flip up chin bar as all my > glasses have cable ear pieces which kind of rules out conventional full > face unless I buy new glasses. Which I may have to get what I want. I tried > on the 700 series Shoei but the venting on the chin bar is different and > rubbed on my nose. My old helmet is a very old open faced Bell RT 7 3\4 > made back when Bell still made number sized helmets, early seventies. Any > body have any ideas? > I will take this Not KLR after this post but want to reach the widest > audience first. > > Alan Henderson, Iowa, A13, 360lbs, 6ft 3, 7 3\4 - 7 7\8 ------- yes my head > was this big before I gained weight. Alan, I've got an RFR and it is a little difficult to get on and off but the more I wear it the better it gets. The fit is perfect otherwise and I don't experience any interference problems with the face shield or chin bar. I tried on one size bigger that was easier to get on and off but it wasn't as secure in the worn position. It is real comfortable for long trips and doesn't shake around on my head on rough roads/trails or in heavy duty winds like other helmets I've had. Why don't you check out Arai to see if they have a helmet configuration that works better for you? Not all manufacturers fit the same due to the characteristics of the particular brand. You are wise to choose a full face helmet because they offer the best protection and when you think of it why settle for anything less? Anything worth doing is worth doing right..... Jeff A2 AMA ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:51:47 -0700 From: "Arne Larsen" Subject: Re: (klr650) Progressives Thanks Chalz. I checked the list and basically what I got out of it was 'try and see' as everyone seems to have slightly different set-ups with out any apparent problems. This would lead me to believe that things aren't as crucial as I at first thought. For the record, I'm 265 lbs. I bought 15W Bel-Ray fork oil. I was going to go for 20W, but they were out of stock. I am also going to use the stock spacers as is. I thought about going for PVC, but then thought 2 things; What am I going to do with the 2 spacers I already have and, why should I even shorten them considering that with a pre-load adjustment variance on the rear spring of approx 1/2" (with a short/fat spring), 3/4" is f**k-all on the 2' gangley front spring. I will also settle on 6" from the top (oil level), as it's right in the middle of the two most popular recommendations, and if necessary, should account for the extra displacement of the progressive spring. Arne - -----Original Message----- From: Chalz Milliken To: klr650@lists.xmission.com Date: April 26, 1999 11:12 AM Subject: RE: (klr650) Progressives >The following is a previous post... > >>Is part # 11-1128 the correct spring for the KLR? Even though they are 3/4" >>longer than the stock springs (which looks about right), the instructions >>list it as a street fork spring, and the model # chart lists the Kawi 250 >>Ninja, Kawi EX500, and the Kawi VN750 Vulcan, as the only selected Kawasaki >>recipients. > >>BTW, how much did you guys/gals pre-load them? With the front wheel in the >>air and the caps removed, the spacer was up around 1/2" with the stock >>springs. Is this what I should be aiming for? > >>BTW #2, as the progressives displace more oil, should I put in less than the >>recommended 170mm from the top? > >I just put Progressive Suspension in my 99 KLR650 this weekend. The part number on the list is old. There is a new one that I don't remember right now. You can get the right part# from Progressive at phone = 1-619-948-4012. I think it's 11-1115. The only way I could get the oil level right was to make a huge dip stick from a piece of wood and mark where the level was before I took any oil out. Then just put the same amount back in. The oil that came out looked like rotting fish oil. That could of been a huge part of the problem. I didn't cut the stock spacers because the new springs were only a half inch bigger than the stock springs. I ride rough and wanted to really stiffen things up and I used 10W fork oil. The biggest change I have to report with the change was the high speed wobble I used to get around 80mph is gone! Right up threw 100mph and the bike feels solid. This was made the project worth it to me. The wobble I used to get felt very dangerous. The ride is a little rough now in the dirt, but I haven't bottomed them out yet. My hands and forearms are taking a bigger beaten, but it's not more than I can take as of yet. > >Chalz >A13 > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 20:04:29 -0700 From: "Arne Larsen" Subject: Re: (klr650) (NKLR) Where is the soul in YOUR KLR? >I think the bikes soul resides in the rider, as the >biological extension to the bike but that has to be my >default response. :) >=== >Rev. Chuck >'99 KLR651 >:^)>+ I agree with the "Rev". The bike is only as good or bad as the rider and functions as an extension thereof... ...A...sybiosis... (which was also an episode title for STNG) Arne ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 21:16:11 -0600 From: "bruce redding" Subject: (klr650) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 20:14:33 -0700 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01BE9021.665F6180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable unsubscribe - ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01BE9021.665F6180 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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