From: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com (klr650-digest) To: klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: klr650-digest V2 #346 Reply-To: klr650 Sender: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-klr650-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk klr650-digest Friday, April 30 1999 Volume 02 : Number 346 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:52:35 -0600 From: "Pokluda, Gino F" Subject: RE: (klr650) Call for KLR articles... >>I was browsing through the GS resources website on micapeak.com last night. I envy the way they have the typical upgrades laid out. << Kurt, Those places are dark and evil. Let the force guide you. Don't succumb to the dark side. Gino ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:53:26 -0600 From: "Kurt Simpson" Subject: Re: (klr650) backrest - -----Original Message----- From: WDSRC To: klr 650 club list Date: Friday, April 30, 1999 11:28 AM Subject: (klr650) backrest >does anyone make a good looking, good quality backrest for the KLR650? Where >and how much? > >Robert Tim Bernard makes two (different sizes)...I don't have a price for you yet... Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:57:32 -0400 From: duftler@us.ibm.com Subject: (klr650) Ultimate KLR AT >A. The ultimate AT price be damned. >B. The most cost effective AT that anyone could afford. >C. A combination of the two. > >I personally do not believe that just throwing money at a bike, which is >what Rider did, makes it better. Gino, Since the price of the KLR is without a doubt one of its best features, I don't think we should lose this feature in an ultimate Adventure KLR. On the other hand, it is enjoyable to spend someone else's hard-earned money ... ;-) - - Matt Duftler ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:56:05 -0700 From: "Vik Banerjee" Subject: Re: (klr650) Call for KLR articles... - -----Original Message----- From: Kurt Simpson To: Pokluda, Gino F ; List KLR Date: Friday, April 30, 1999 8:45 AM Subject: Re: (klr650) Call for KLR articles... >>A. The ultimate AT price be damned. >>B. The most cost effective AT that anyone could afford. >>C. A combination of the two. >> >>I personally do not believe that just throwing money at a bike, which is >>what Rider did, makes it better. My wish list: - - upgraded suspension front and back, stiffer, fully adjustable comp/rebound dampening and external preload - 11" travel - - single oversized rotor up front with multi-piston caliper - - high/low fender switchable with minimal tools - - dual lights - normal headlight and high power projector - lights to be switchable on and off from bars - - upgraded electrical system - higher output alternator - - 30L fuel tank optional, but bolts on to stock location - - manually adjustable windshield height - - MSR type bash plate stock - - suppertrap type exhaust stock - - grease injector ports on all critical components - - built in pannier/luggage mounts - - 6 speed tranny - - acerbis style handguards That's all! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 99 10:38:37 PST From: rob_macleod@bylgate.dbylaw.com Subject: (klr650) Arne's Suspension Bliss I to share Arne's joy with respect to the Progressive set up. I did the usual mods to my A12 (Dynojet, K&N, Supertrapp and Progressive springs) and I am VERY pleased with the results. Last Saturday I took a 150+ Km/hr run on a deserted forest service road and my A12 ran like it was on rails! The only problems I had were when I got home and found a couple of bolts had vibrated away and hitting ruts at close to 100 mph had driven my rear wheel into my license plate and curled it like a tin can - oh well. If any listers want to come to North-Central British Columbia (Prince George and area) and pretend to be Scott Summers with me just let me know. Cheers ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:14:51 -0700 From: Tobin Lampson Subject: (klr650) brackets Howdeeeeeee, Was wondrin which is better-a)Tim Bernards cool sideracks or b)those Hepco-Beckers and..................... Does anyone have a site on Hepco-Becker? Tims already save my butt once and I don't even own a set yet. Thanks Toby ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:07:34 -0700 From: Tom Myers Subject: Re: (klr650) God rides a KLR??? Well actually... >> What's a Truimph? I believe you're referring to a "Truimph" which is a British "oil-distribution device". Typically they look very stylish and sound pleasing to the ear. It is not known why so much effort was made to spread oil around the world, but damn they look good doing it. Tom +------------------------------------+ | CycoActive Products tel (206) 323-2349 | 701 34th Ave fax (206) 325-6016 | Seattle, WA 98122 USA | webpage: http://www.cycoactive.com | e-mail: TomMyers@cycoactive.com +------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:34:16 PDT From: "Brian Hillman" Subject: Re: (klr650) Call for KLR articles... >Let's look at it upgrade by upgrade...just keep me updated... > >Kurt _______________________________________________________________ I have the rear shock at CSRacing (www.csracing.com in San Pedro, CA) right now getting a performance re-valve. Estimated at $150.00, it was only a few dollars ($30) more than simply replacing the seal I blew out last week. I was able to give them all the pertinent info about me, my riding gear, and my weight, and riding style, and places I ride. I will have a custom valved rear shock. I am looking next to do the Progressive fork spring upgrade and fork oil change. Also, I need a Carb. Mine is clogged and I can't get rid of the lean surge to save my life. I called Sudco and they referred me to Stroker. Stroker said they didn't have one for the KL series because they dont have a bike to fit it to. I generously donated mine!! Any recommendations? I commute on my bike over 100 miles a day from south Orange County CA, to Los Angeles, CA to and from work on the bike. So the upgrades will be somewhat limited to what I can do on the weekends, bolt on quickly, or pull a part off my parts bike of the same year (as I currently am with the rear shock)and have serviced. I will also be getting a seat (or at least a gel cover) and a windscreen or minifairing. My windscreen is not the same as the 87 and up KLR's, mine is enduro styled, so I don't think most of you are too interested in that. Brian (hillbilly) 85 KL600 _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:44:49 PDT From: "Brian Hillman" Subject: (klr650) KLR upgrades I am considering th e "gold valve cartridge emulators" for the forks of my KL600 when I do the progressive spring and fork oil change. Any people tried these already? hoe are they? Brian (HIllbilly) 85 KL600 _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:51:54 -0700 From: "e. rhoads" Subject: (klr650) Fork anti-dive measure Here's something you can try. It's been reported that new KLR's have a sticker stating a max air pressure for the forks.....I forget what it is....but the KHI rep gave me a seat-of-the-pants recommendation of 10lbs. max. I asked if that was ok for my A-10 and he said yes. He didn't think it would cause stiction or blow seals. I asked if it would help with fork dive and he said he thought it would. So there's something you could try, I haven't tried it myself yet. Just thought I'd mention this as the dive issue occasionally pops up on the list. eric ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 04:57:02 +1000 From: "Hauck, Michael MG" Subject: RE: (klr650) Fork anti-dive measure This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. - ------_=_NextPart_001_01BE933B.813091B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I'm not at home but I seem to remember 30 lbs. as the max for my A-11? (1997). As a beginning rider I hate the fork dive during hard braking and keep the forks at about 25 lbs. Can this higher pressure cause problems?? I understand that Kawasaki recommends NO additional air pressure. PS: What's stiction? - -----Original Message----- From: e. rhoads [mailto:eroads@teleport.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 1999 11:52 AM To: klr list Subject: (klr650) Fork anti-dive measure Here's something you can try. It's been reported that new KLR's have a sticker stating a max air pressure for the forks.....I forget what it is....but the KHI rep gave me a seat-of-the-pants recommendation of 10lbs. max. I asked if that was ok for my A-10 and he said yes. He didn't think it would cause stiction or blow seals. I asked if it would help with fork dive and he said he thought it would. So there's something you could try, I haven't tried it myself yet. Just thought I'd mention this as the dive issue occasionally pops up on the list. eric - ------_=_NextPart_001_01BE933B.813091B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" RE: (klr650) Fork anti-dive measure

I'm not at home but I seem to remember 30 lbs. as the max for my A-11? (1997).

As a beginning rider I hate the fork dive during hard braking and keep the forks at about 25 lbs.
Can this higher pressure cause problems??
 I understand that Kawasaki recommends NO additional air pressure.

PS: What's stiction?

-----Original Message-----
From: e. rhoads [mailto:eroads@teleport.com]
Sent: Friday, April 30, 1999 11:52 AM
To: klr list
Subject: (klr650) Fork anti-dive measure


Here's something you can try.
It's been reported that new KLR's have a sticker stating a max air pressure
for the forks.....I forget what it is....but the KHI rep gave me a
seat-of-the-pants recommendation of 10lbs. max.
 I asked if that was ok for my A-10 and he said yes. He didn't think it
would cause stiction or blow seals. I asked if it would help with fork dive
and he said he thought it would. So there's something you could try, I
haven't tried it myself yet.  Just thought I'd mention this as the dive
issue occasionally pops up on the list.
 eric

- ------_=_NextPart_001_01BE933B.813091B0-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:11:40 PDT From: "Brian Hillman" Subject: RE: (klr650) Fork anti-dive measure > I understand that Kawasaki recommends NO additional air pressure. . . . . Kawasaki recommeds in the factory service manual "atmospheric pressure is best suited for all riding conditions". I have achieved this by lifting the front of the bike off the ground and then pressing the shrader valve to allow the chamber to fill to max. I have to say, its a diving fool!!!! I was apprehensive as far adding extra pressure as I could find no spec. for MAX pressure. This at least true for my KL600. Hillbilly _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:18:45 -0700 From: "e. rhoads" Subject: Re: (klr650) Fork anti-dive measure > I'm not at home but I seem to remember 30 lbs. as the max for my A-11? (1997). > > As a beginning rider I hate the fork dive during hard braking and keep the forks at about 25 lbs. > Can this higher pressure cause problems?? ======= yeah, the dive is kind of extreme...I think your pressure is way too high, but someone else here will be able to comment better....too high pressure can blow the seals and "stiction" results from the seals rubbing too hard against the tubes > I understand that Kawasaki recommends NO additional air pressure. ======= I should go look...so what, I'm lazy....I believe what they say (in manual) is the system is designed to operate "normally" at atmospheric pressure.....I know full well I'll get blasted if I'm really wrong about this but I'm passing along what I was told. The A-10 through A-13's are the same. I'm sure someone will post the correct max pressure. eric ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 16:01:29 -0400 From: "Steamroller" Subject: Re: (klr650) thanks to Mike at Dual Star NKLR We have plenty of Gevalia here. My wife maintains the subscription as a "need". I have to agree with her, excellent stuff. I also maintain my bikes are a "need", too, 8^). NY Pete, always a hot pot on... - -----Original Message----- From: Jeff & Lisa Walker To: Eric Jasniewicz ; KLR Mailing List Date: Thursday, April 29, 1999 9:50 PM Subject: Re: (klr650) thanks to Mike at Dual Star NKLR > >> >>BTW, another good group of folks I have dealt with is the >Gevalia coffee >>people. No pressures, no hassles, you can come and go as you >please, >>fantastic customer service. >> > > >I love Gevalia coffee, but it was a little too expensive for my >rate of consumption. Also, drinking Gavalia over here in the >land of Starbucks and SBC can get you lynched. > >Jeff > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 16:07:04 EDT From: Krgrife@aol.com Subject: Re: (klr650) Exhaust Broken or Not In a message dated 4/30/99 7:59:57 AM Pacific Daylight Time, patmcg@csi.com writes: > Anyway I noticed when i took the exhaust off that there appears to be some > metal missing where the downpipe goes into the cylinder. There is a recess > that the downpipe fits into and it is this recess that appears to be missing > part of the lip at the bottom centre. I am not sure if it should or shouldn't > be missing as the missing part looks very clean cut as if it was machined out? > This is as it should be, just make sure that you put in a new crushable gasket when you fasten the pipe back on and you should be ok. As noted in a couple of previous posts the only time I have had a backfire problem is when the exhaust flange nuts loosened and allowed air to be sucked in around the flange on deceleration. I finally put red Loktite on the studs while working hard at not thinking about what it will be like if I ever need to remove them. Kurt Grife ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:26:07 -0700 From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" Subject: Re: (klr650) NKLR, metric system taking a step back in US >The reason for the lack of switching to metrics is McDonald's. Without a >1/4 pounder, they are out of business... Yes, I'll have a 1/4 kilogrammer >with cheese please... > Didn't you see "Pulp Fiction" ? They'd call it Le Royale with cheese. Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:34:21 -0700 From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" Subject: Re: (klr650) Suspension Having said this, I'm not sure why it's been recommended to >completely remove the front fork legs??? Anyone have the answer to this? > It's easier to completely drain the fork oil with the fork tube removed from the triple clamp. You have to pump it several times to expell all the oil out, and tilt it this way and that. Also, if you have to change the fork seals, like I SHOULD have, you'd have to remove them anyway. BTW, its called a Uni-trak, not a Pro-link (Honda) Jeff ------------------------------ End of klr650-digest V2 #346 ****************************